Tom KÜHNHACKL

Has any of you guys seen him play? looking at his stats in the DNL he is leading his team despite being born in 92.

GP TP G A PIM
30 41 21 20 102

He also has seize to become an effective power forward. Any comments on his stile of play and how good he can become?

Any relation to Erich Kühnhackl?

His son apparently...

Yes, his son.

He almost made the German U18-Team at the Age of 16...

He was listed in the IIHF pre-Rosters of Germany.

I have seen him play once and he has impressive speed. Can not say much about his stickhandling, but he sure was one of the better players on the german team.

I'm looking forward to see him play at an IIHF-Tournament...

I am 16 and am German. I lived in Landshut, Germany for 13 years in which I have played with Tom for 9 years. He is 6-2 tall but will end up being at least 6-4 since his dad is 6-5. Tom has always been 2 levels above everybodys skills. He has great hands and a killershot. He is not the biggest hitter for his size but I'm sure he will catch on as he gets older.
Another great player that played on the same team is Tobias Rieder. He is a 93 forward with amazing speed and stickhandling. He won the IIHF skills challenge and last year he had about 170 points in 60 games. Our team has also won the German Championship in which he as a one of the younger players had the most points.

From playing with these two guys for so many years I can say that these will be two definite greats.

wow... kühnhackel has 2g and 2a for 4points in 3 games in landshut(playing 2nd german league) as a 16 year old right now...:handclap:not bad!!!

Whoaw 10 Points in 11 games that is just amazing. This first kid in a long time from Germany with first round, if not even top 10 draft potential.

He would be the first german player drafted in the top 10 (excluded Dany Heatley who's born in Freiburg, Germany, has a german mother and owns a german passport along with his canadian).

He would be the first german player drafted in the top 10 (excluded Dany Heatley who's born in Freiburg, Germany, has a german mother and owns a german passport along with his canadian).

say the first german hockey product within the top10 since heatley learned to play in canada.

could be a nice draft for germany, since there's goalie grubauer too. he seems to be the best german goalie for a while.

Yup. Had the opportunity to see him against the Ice Dogs and he looked awesome! Although he won't see much ice-time this season, unless Mark Murphy gets severely injured, playing for Belleville might pan out nicely for him, as Uwe Krupp accompanies the team and should help him to get accustomed to NA.

Yup. Had the opportunity to see him against the Ice Dogs and he looked awesome! Although he won't see much ice-time this season, unless Mark Murphy gets severely injured, playing for Belleville might pan out nicely for him, as Uwe Krupp accompanies the team and should help him to get accustomed to NA.

he might get the usual backup games + maybe stealing 5 more with continuing to impress. and next season he is the starter, just in time to impress scouts for the draft. indeed a perfect choice for him to play in the CHL.

i wonder what kuehnhackl's plans are. he needs to play DEL next season or going to the CHL too. a lot of DEL should have interest in him. does he have a contract with one already? otherwise he should choose wisely. he needs ice-time.

At this point he hasn't signed with any team for next season. Ingolstadts GM already explained interest but so probably should also every other GM of the DEL. The advantage of Ingolstadt is that it's near to Landshut, his hometown. And also to Munich, where his dad, german hockey legend Erich will be quite often in the future, because he became vice president of the german hockey federation (located in Munich) a few days ago.

But: To become a potential first rounder he should either sign in the canadian juniors or go to a team in the DEL where he gets tons of ice time. Ingolstadt calculates with a quite big budget for next season and last years 'coach of the year' with Nuremberg, Benoit Laporte, is known for letting play his experienced and best players by name, not necessarily youth ...

In Nuremberg which is also located in Bavaria, not that far away for his home, the organisation plans with less money an more german talent in the future. In addition they have a german coach in former Team Germany player Andreas Brockmann who actually gives Pittburghs goaltending prospect Patrick Ehelechner a chance over former AHL play-off MVP Frederic Cassivi. Ehelechner pays back the trust in him with an excellent 1.58 saving percentage over the last five games since getting the number one duties from Cassivi.

It will be an interesting and difficult decision for Kuenhackl.

he could play for straubing. bavaria, close to home and he should get ice-time there. but the question is if it's worth losing all the games. ;)

i think a perfect team would be augsburg. still close to home, but augsburg has proven that they are willing to let young germans play. they always try to have a competitive team, although they have the lowest payroll every season.

so either augsburg or CHL would be my advice. and i really hope he choses wisely. many young germans made the wrong decisions lately. the DEL is still not the place where young players get the chance.

He can come to Frankfurt, a little further north,but we can give a bit of gas money.:)

Krefeld's youngsters are getting a lot of ice-time under Pavlov this season (honsetly it's the complete opposite to the last couple of years), so it might also be worth considering. Obviously i wouldn't mind him playing in Krefeld. :nod:

Interesting article about Tom in German

http://www.abendzeitung.de/sport/ehc_muenchen/70016


Article comparing Tom with Marco Sturm an talking how much further he is ahaed in his progress compared to his peers.

Tom is already one of the very few german prospects where there's not the question IF he gets drafted but WHEN.

He easily has more talent than Marcel Goc who was a 1st rounder, but he has to stay healthy, for sure, and continue to impress. Maybe in the DEL or the NA juniors next season.

Tom hired an NA agent Roly Thompson (also worked for Krupp and Hecht), to scan potential junior teams for next season.
So Tom probably will move to NA next season. Think definitly is the right move for him.

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/mehr-sport/eishockey/2009/01/08/kuehnhackl-nach-kanada/junior-tom-hat-jetzt-berater-aus-ontario.html

Future San Jose Shark :)

could be a nice draft for germany, since there's goalie grubauer too. he seems to be the best german goalie for a while.

How would Grubauer compare to Felix Bruckmann? Although he wasn't drafted this season, Felix was rated 13th among Europeans by CS - ahead of draftees like Simila.

Not that I'm all too familiar with Brückmann, but from what I have seen so far, they aren't really close.

Brückmann was Grubauer's backup at the U18 WJC in 08, even though he's a year older. Grubauer was dominant in the U17 Challenge and already a backup at this years WJC right after turning 17, actually starting the deciding game.

Simply put, Brückmann is one of plenty German goalies who were ranked rather low by central scouting. Pretty much every year there is a German in that region or a bit higher. None of them were drafted in the recent past.
It remains to be seen how Grubauer develops in the OHL, but from what he has shown at an early age, he's a lot closer to goalies like Greiss or Pielmeier, who were ranked pretty high. One year ago I'd have put him ahead of those two, now it depends on whether he can establish himself as a starter in the OHL.

Not that I'm all too familiar with Brückmann, but from what I have seen so far, they aren't really close.

Brückmann was Grubauer's backup at the U18 WJC in 08, even though he's a year older. Grubauer was dominant in the U17 Challenge and already a backup at this years WJC right after turning 17, actually starting the deciding game.



Obviously, the coaches in Germany and European scouts have seen both a lot more closely than I have - in fact, I have never seen Grubauer - but Felix was quite impressive as a fifteen-year old at the IIHF's international camp. Again, there was a wide range of ability at the tournament but what was most impressive, in addition to his physical skills, was his tremendous poise and positive demeanor for a goalie at a young age. Incidently, his team in that tournament lost just once and also featured Sweden's Viktor Hedman, Slovenian defensemen Blaz Gregorc, who now plays in Swedish junior league, Reinier Stats, another fine defenseman from Holland, and USA forward Duncan McKellar.

Tom hired an NA agent Roly Thompson (also worked for Krupp and Hecht), to scan potential junior teams for next season.
So Tom probably will move to NA next season. Think definitly is the right move for him.

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/mehr-sport/eishockey/2009/01/08/kuehnhackl-nach-kanada/junior-tom-hat-jetzt-berater-aus-ontario.html

The Windsor Spitfires selected Kuehnhackl with the 24th pick in the CHL Import Draft. (http://new.windsorspitfires.com/viewcontent.php?id=3219)

However, it looks as if Tom will stay in Germany and play for Landshut (2. BundesLiga) with select games (Tuesdays) in Augsburg (DEL) for the 2009/'10 season. (http://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/Home/Sport/Eishockey/Artikel,-Eishockey-Augsburger-Panther-wollen-Tom-Kuehnhackl-verpflichten-_arid,1619979_regid,2_puid,2_pageid,4476.html)

Any word on his status? Is he coming over to the OHL? It would be nice to see a German go in the 1st round

Any word on his status? Is he coming over to the OHL? It would be nice to see a German go in the 1st round

staying in germany. will play in landshut (2nd-tier) on weekends and in augsburg (DEL) on tuesdays and when needed.

Watched Kühnhackl yesterday when Landshut was playing at Crimmitschau. Now he didn't get that much ice time because Landshut was coming in with a 1-5 record and probably wanted to push their veterans and foreigners but anyway, here's what I saw:

His listed size of 6'2" and 168 lbs seems about right, he looked pretty tall (very upright skating style) and thin out there. Definitely a lanky kid but he's still only 17 so he has time to fill out. With his dad's genes, he should easily get to 6'3" and 190-200 lbs. Didn't initiate much contact but did not shy away from it either. One time he took a hard hit into the boards that sent his helmet flying, didn't faze him at all.

What struck me was how confident and well-rounded he played against grown men, at his age. He didn't get to show off his speed much but his initial quickness is good, his hands are very good, and he seems to have very good awareness and decision-making. Knows where to be in his own zone as well. His head was always up and "on a swivel". That's stuff many German forwards don't EVER learn so I was impressed.

He lined up at LW but would help his team all over the ice. Went to the net a lot, not only in front but also behind it. He put up 2 assists (his first points of the season) by going behind the net, using his reach and quick reaction to pounce on loose pucks and dish them to the crease for tap-in goals.

Kühnhackl would tear up the German juniors and be a regular scorer in the 3rd tier Oberliga, at 17 in the Bundesliga he has a hard time getting productive minutes but he looked pretty good. Getting tons of ice time with Windsor couldn't have hurt but this kid's definitely going to get drafted next June either way.

Burgs

Appreciate hearing the news about Tom. As a Windsor fan it is good to hear about someone who is doing well even though he has not reported to the organization as of yet.

A quick question if you have any information about him.

A couple of weeks ago a few Windsor fans on other boards had mentioned there were rumours about the possibility that Tom may yet report to Windsor, sooner rather than later.

My question is if there have been any similar rumours floating around in Germany about this being a possibility still at this point in the season? I know he is under contract for the season but the rumours being posted stated there were only a few details to work out with his team over his contract then he would report.

I am just trying to find out if this is more speculation or misinformation that is behind these rumours or if there is some basis for them. Any info, news or even rumours would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry, haven't heard anything about him leaving. Not many Germans go the CHL route anyway. Last year, Toni Ritter left Heilbronn (same league as Landshut) mid-season to play for Montreal Junior but that's the exception rather than the norm. Plus Ritter was just one of many prospects on a club that is as close to a pure farm team as it gets. Kühnhackl on the other hand plays "hometown hero" in Landshut. If keeps getting very little ice time in the 2. Bundesliga, maybe he'll make a move but as of now I wouldn't get my hopes up too much.

If keeps getting very little ice time in the 2. Bundesliga, maybe he'll make a move but as of now I wouldn't get my hopes up too much.

he played top6 last year and will get the same this year. he struggled early in the season going scoreless in his DEL game and i think 5 2nd-tier games. then got send down to U18 for one game where he had two assists. he bounced back in 2nd-tier on friday with 2 assists as you mentioned and today he had a hattrick! it seems that he's back on track.

Burgs and zecke26

Thanks for the info. I am guessing the rumours going around were more of the misinformed type along with some hopeful fans.

I will continue to follow any info that you two can post on here.

Thanks again

I don't get how this is a big accomlishment he may be 17 but players like Flaake and others before him were playing in the DEL at the same age and Kuhnhackl is not dominating by any means. I know its a mens league but for being the best young talent from Germany in a long time you'd think he'd be playing in the best league in Germany or at least putting up some better stats compared to some "lesser" German prospects.

I don't get how this is a big accomlishment he may be 17 but players like Flaake and others before him were playing in the DEL at the same age and Kuhnhackl is not dominating by any means. I know its a mens league but for being the best young talent from Germany in a long time you'd think he'd be playing in the best league in Germany or at least putting up some better stats compared to some "lesser" German prospects.

You can`t judge a player by his stats. He obviously has something that the other prospects don`t or he wouldn`t be so hyped.

Also, he is playing in the DEL part time, and they dont want him playing there full time because it would hinder his development. They would probably much rather him get top 6 minutes in the tier-2 league than him play 5 minutes a game in the DEL.

I don't get how this is a big accomlishment he may be 17 but players like Flaake and others before him were playing in the DEL at the same age and Kuhnhackl is not dominating by any means. I know its a mens league but for being the best young talent from Germany in a long time you'd think he'd be playing in the best league in Germany or at least putting up some better stats compared to some "lesser" German prospects.

Flaake wasn't playing DEL at the same age.
At 16/17, Kühnhackl put up 0.5 PPG in a men's league, while Flaake was still playing juniors. Flaake's first DEL-season, a season in which he played only half the games and didn't get any kind of significant icetime, is the season Kühnhackl is in now. Kühnhackl could easily play the role Flaake played that season, but he prefers to actually play.

And whose stats are you even comparing him to?
There isn't a single German talent that put up any kind of comparable numbers in a men's league at a similar age in the last few years. Gogulla played juniors the year earlier and had a whopping 2 points in his draft year, Flaake played juniors the year earlier and had 1 point in his draft year. Felix Schütz didn't play in Germany in his draft year, but put up 3 points in tier-two at the same age Kühnhackl put up 21.

The only ones who actually have done something equal or better at the same age, are our three NHL-forwards, Sturm, Hecht and Goc.

I may have come across wrong but I'm just saying it would be wrong to call him the next anything or hype him at least until he plays in the DEL or Canadian Juniors.

Obviously anything can happen, but this guy has already done something that no other prospect in recent times has done. You don't need to play DEL, it's not like those who have got more than a few minutes here and there.

It's not like he couldn't play DEL, he just doesn't want to do it on a regular basis, because it's just a bad idea. It doesn't matter how talented you are, DEL-teams don't really care about that. Would you rather see a top-prospect get goon-like minutes in the NHL or lots of icetime in the AHL?

If you look at where the players like Gogulla or Flaake got most of their icetime at that age, it was in juniors. Those few minutes in the DEL don't add much. Kühnhackl, on the other hand, doesn't get the bulk of his playing time in juniors, he's already playing fulltime in a men's league, and has done so for more than one year now.

Plus, there is a noticeable difference when you watch them play. There is just something all the others didn't have.

I guess a little bit it's also because of his pedigree, as the son of Germany's "Player of the Century". If his name was Klaus Schmidt, I don't think he'd be getting the coverage he does. But that's not because he's overhyped but because the German media doesn't generally care about hockey at all.

Tom Kühnhackl was named Rookie of the Year in the 2. Bundesliga last season as a 17 year old. As of today he is leading Landshut in scoring (followed by 16-year old Tobias Rieder - Landshut is a junior powerhouse). The kid is the real deal.

For comparison, our best recent forward prospects at age 17:

Kühnhackl: 11-10-21 in 42 games in the 2. Bundesliga (turned 17 in February of that season)
Flaake: 32-32-64 in 36 games in U18 juniors (turned 17 in March of that season)
Gogulla: 1-1-2 in 47 DEL games plus 4-5-9 in 7 U18 games (turned 17 in July before that season)
Schütz: 1-2-3 in 24 games for Landshut in 2. Bundesliga plus 6-8-14 in 9 U18 games (turned 17 in November of that season)

and there's no real "the next xy" talk. the only comparison i heard was from the junior coaches in landshut who said that kuehnhackl is their best prospect sind sturm and is comparable.

for the NHL "the next sturm" might nothing worth talking about, for germany it would mean a lot.

Ranked 30th by ISS. He may deserve to be a first rounder but I don't think he will be.

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=11963

I don't get how this is a big accomlishment he may be 17 but players like Flaake and others before him were playing in the DEL at the same age and Kuhnhackl is not dominating by any means. I know its a mens league but for being the best young talent from Germany in a long time you'd think he'd be playing in the best league in Germany or at least putting up some better stats compared to some "lesser" German prospects.

1. Kuhnhackl has a contract with Landshut. So this is his Team to play the full season

2. He will play DEL, if Landshut has no Game themself

3. He is going to play for Augsburg (against Hannover, 24th november)
if he can get on the scoreboard, maybe they rank him higher ???

Ranked 30th by ISS. He may deserve to be a first rounder but I don't think he will be.

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=11963

It wouldn't surprise me if San Jose uses their 1st rounder on him (I think they have one). They have a history of drafting a lot of German players including Sturm and Marcel Goc in the first round.

All this bantering back and forth has me confused. During my time in Germany, I was extremely impressed by the level of organization that seemed to be apparent everywhere. However, it doesnt seem that the hockey system shares the same concise level of organization.
Does anyone agreee? Is there a chance that this improves?

All this bantering back and forth has me confused. During my time in Germany, I was extremely impressed by the level of organization that seemed to be apparent everywhere. However, it doesnt seem that the hockey system shares the same concise level of organization.
Does anyone agreee? Is there a chance that this improves?

What do you mean with bantering back and forth? In what way is it a sign of disorganization?

I don't really disagree with your assumption of a low level of organization in professional hockey but I'm trying to figure out what you mean exactly.

I do disagree with a general level of organization you observed in your time here. It's a stereotype.

I would be happy if Anaheim took him with philly's 1st round pick.

What do you mean with bantering back and forth? In what way is it a sign of disorganization?

I don't really disagree with your assumption of a low level of organization in professional hockey but I'm trying to figure out what you mean exactly.

I do disagree with a general level of organization you observed in your time here. It's a stereotype.

As for the first point it, seems like the player is playing on all these different teams rather than being situated in one place.
For example, if he played on one team he could more easily:
* set some goals for the season
* goals could be being efficient on the PK, PP, defensive responsibilities, skating stride, edges, shot, etc...
*know what he wants to achieve and proper coaching to achieve them

Staying with one team would allow you to be more accountable and have a more personable relationship with your coaches.

The final point was how everthing was things seemed on time, clean and orderly. A transit system that works. Low tolerence for drunk drivers and careless vehicle operators in general... Just my experience though. Sounds like yours is different, maybe you can explain.

As for the first point it, seems like the player is playing on all these different teams rather than being situated in one place.
For example, if he played on one team he could more easily:
* set some goals for the season
* goals could be being efficient on the PK, PP, defensive responsibilities, skating stride, edges, shot, etc...
*know what he wants to achieve and proper coaching to achieve them


Like most promising players under a certain age he has a "Förderlizenz" with which he can play for one lower tier team as well as one DEL-team. So it's basically a two-way contract.

He is a player and a product of Landshut but since this season he also has a förderlizenz for Augsburg for which he has played 1 game so far! Similar things happen to players in north america all the time.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=115809&encode=TRUE




The final point was how everthing was things seemed on time, clean and orderly. A transit system that works. Low tolerence for drunk drivers and careless vehicle operators in general... Just my experience though. Sounds like yours is different, maybe you can explain.

You probably haven't used the national rail system a lot if you got the feeling that everything is on time. You probably haven't been to Ludwigshafen or Berlin (outside of "Mitte") if you think everything is clean. Berlin is one of the large cities with most graffiti worldwide. Don't get me wrong. It's part of why I love it.

But Germany is definately not more organized than let's say Australia or the Netherlands for example. Germany-being-organized is a classic sterotype that derives from certain aspects of the two world words (i.e. war industry and concentration camps).

He injured his shoulder and will most likely miss the Division 1 U20 tournament in France.

That's a shame.

he's definitely out

Now that he's back how is he playing? Still have a chance at being a 1st rounder?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqf0Vp4ijXA

nice video. Kühnhackl wears #14 like his dad, Rieder #22 and Forster #18. All three of them have been pretty cold recently. Thez had only one goal and nod assist combined over the last five games. Tom scored the lone goal in an 8-1 rout against bottom dwellers Freiburg.

Looks like Kuhnhackl scored 2 goals in his last game. I just follow his stats, so I'm not sure if this was last night or Saturday, but either way.

Looks like Kuhnhackl scored 2 goals in his last game. I just follow his stats, so I'm not sure if this was last night or Saturday, but either way.

Sunday.
This is a nice site to follow the games:
http://www.eishockey.info/eishockey/WebApp?cmd=spieltag&saison=2010&liga=51&spieltag=40

Spits have a big announcement they're going to make this week regarding a player coming over - I have to believe it's about Kuhnhackl. Any rumblings on your side of the Atlantic?

Well, their forum won't le me join. The only thing they have up on their HP is that apparently 25 NHL scouts were at their last game?!

http://www.la-cannibals.com/cannibals/index.php


edit: Ok, it's working now, unfortunately bad news:

Apparently he's injured pretty badly after a slash to his wrist, there is talk about nerv damage,
he doesn't feel the top of his finger and maybe a broken wrist.

Well, their forum won't le me join. The only thing they have up on their HP is that apparently 25 NHL scouts were at their last game?!

http://www.la-cannibals.com/cannibals/index.php


edit: Ok, it's working now, unfortunately bad news:

Apparently he's injured pretty badly after a slash to his wrist, there is talk about nerv damage,
he doesn't feel the top of his finger and maybe a broken wrist.

Uh oh, that could mean permanent damage. I believe that's what happened to Dan Blackburn...anyone remember how that wound up?...:shakehead

In Landshuts victory over Dresden the 25 NHL scouts watched him score just 3 minutes in. He added another assist later.

Maximilian Forster scored as well and had an assist. Tobi Rieder had 2 assists.

Uh oh, that could mean permanent damage. I believe that's what happened to Dan Blackburn...anyone remember how that wound up?...:shakehead

I wouldn't expect it to be nearly as bad. Having no feeling in your finger-tip is kind of common, that should be gone in a few days. Those small nerves do get damaged, but they heal rather quickly in most cases. Blackburn on the other hand, pretty much lost his shoulder.

Still very tough for him, those injuries are never good for a player, especially for such a young guy.

I wouldn't expect it to be nearly as bad. Having no feeling in your finger-tip is kind of common, that should be gone in a few days. Those small nerves do get damaged, but they heal rather quickly in most cases. Blackburn on the other hand, pretty much lost his shoulder.

Still very tough for him, those injuries are never good for a player, especially for such a young guy.

I'm hoping that this isn't a huge set back. 2nd injury already this season.

As for the scouts, I can't believe there were so many there. They were probably also there to see Reider and Forster, but its good to hear that he did well. Maybe that will give him some of the recognition he deserves.

Yeah, that's quite the number, maybe they also enjoy trips to Bavaria because of the beer. ;)

Apparently some scouts were also there yesterday because of Martin Buchwieser of Munich.

http://www.abendzeitung.de/sport/ehc_muenchen/164070

All-clear guys, apparently it's just a hematoma that's putting pressure on a nerv, he's not going to miss a lot of time, if any.

All-clear guys, apparently it's just a hematoma that's putting pressure on a nerv, he's not going to miss a lot of time, if any.

Awesome! Good to hear! I hope the Leafs get a pick in the early 2nd/late first round and draft this guy. It wouldn't surprise me if Burke did, he apparently likes German players.

Awesome! Good to hear! I hope the Leafs get a pick in the early 2nd/late first round and draft this guy. It wouldn't surprise me if Burke did, he apparently likes German players.

:thumbu:

He will be coming to NA next season.

http://www.windsorstar.com/sports/Kuhnhackl+join+Spits+next+season/2599846/story.html

He has been expected to come at some point. Some thought this season, some next season.

That's great.

I have no idea how good he is as I have never seen him play and you can't really judge a player from watching highlights but leaving no-contact German hockey and joining a proven junior club can only be good for his development.

I'd wish Fischer and Rieder would do the same.

Hope he'll be a 1stRounder

Looking at his stats it seems like he didn't really improve much compared to last year.
Did anyone watch him play? What are his strength?

Looking at his stats it seems like he didn't really improve much compared to last year.
Did anyone watch him play? What are his strength?

I haven't seen him playing however reasons might be that he was injured at least two times for a certain period, last year I think he was on the ice with Ben Cottreau (6th best scorer in this league last season) and this year he is playing together with two youngsters around his age (17 and 19). And most of the season his team had more a defensive attitude.

This tournament was from Feb. 11-13, about a week after the injury.

Interested to know if it might have been a factor in his play during this tournament in Slovakia. He played, but did not impress -- at least he didn't impress Kyle Woodlief.

Link (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/columnist/woodlief/2010-03-17-lower-league-prospects_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip)

I wonder if Woodlief was aware of the injury. Also, dismissing a player based on one three-game tournament is a cardinal sin among scouts. Although, the comment "blew his one big chance" could be taken a different way. Woodlief might not be dismissing Kuhnhackl as a prospect. He might only be saying that he missed a chance to solidify his position as a first-round prospect.

I wonder if Woodlief was aware of the injury. Also, dismissing a player based on one three-game tournament is a cardinal sin among scouts. Although, the comment "blew his one big chance" could be taken a different way. Woodlief might not be dismissing Kuhnhackl as a prospect. He might only be saying that he missed a chance to solidify his position as a first-round prospect.

i think that's what he meant. kuhnhackl is the same skilled prospect, not matter if he goes 1st round or 5th round. that doesn't change anything. i personally don't care where he goes, i don't think it's important for germany to have a 1st round draftee, i think it's way more important that a good franchise drafts him and gives him the best change to develop and succeed.

i think that's what he meant. kuhnhackl is the same skilled prospect, not matter if he goes 1st round or 5th round. that doesn't change anything. i personally don't care where he goes, i don't think it's important for germany to have a 1st round draftee, i think it's way more important that a good franchise drafts him and gives him the best change to develop and succeed.

exactly....San Jose.:yo:

Trying to find a contact email for Landshut to try and purchase a Kuhnhackl trikot. I can't seem to find a contact and there online shop is down for now. Anyone know their contact email I know Augsburg will ship to USA,but I'd rather get a Landshut Kuhnhackl since that is where he recieved his training.

Trying to find a contact email for Landshut to try and purchase a Kuhnhackl trikot. I can't seem to find a contact and there online shop is down for now. Anyone know their contact email I know Augsburg will ship to USA,but I'd rather get a Landshut Kuhnhackl since that is where he recieved his training.

will send you a PM. :)

Did he attend the combine? If so, how did he do?

Did he attend the combine? If so, how did he do?

Apparently he did, I thought I saw a link for full results, but this one has the top 10 for each of the various tests: http://centralscouting.nhl.com/link3/cs/public-home.nsf/page?readform&app=combine

Kuhnhackl finished in the tied 5th of the Peak Power (anaerobic fitness) and tied 7th in the standing long jump.

http://www.sport1.de/de/eishockey/eishockey_del/artikel_252066.html

Another article about Kühnhackl

He recogniced that it was a mistake to stay in Germany last season as he was not given enough ice time.

He also says that he wants get better in all aspects of the game and believes that will work best in Canada.

While he will not go first round anymore I think he will go late second to early third round. There are not that many Power forward prospects with similar upside.
Additionally compared to other Europeans the Germans do come over to the US to proove themselves.

i think that's what he meant. kuhnhackl is the same skilled prospect, not matter if he goes 1st round or 5th round. that doesn't change anything. i personally don't care where he goes, i don't think it's important for germany to have a 1st round draftee, i think it's way more important that a good franchise drafts him and gives him the best change to develop and succeed.

The Penguins will certainly give him the time and attention he needs to succeed :)


I'm thrilled to have a guy like Kuhnhackl in the system.

An article about Tom's development on Hockey's Future:

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/12527/khnhackl_adapting_smoothly_to_north_american_game/