Child Prodigy

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richardson100
09-20-2008, 11:13 PM
Alright, so I know that child prodigies in hockey only come along once in a blue, but they do happen. Crosby first got noticed when he was 13. Are there any youngsters who are starting to raise some eye brows like Crosby did?

Heat McManus
09-20-2008, 11:17 PM
there was a kid a few years ago named Horylchuck or something, but I haven't heard anything since. Other than that, nothing since Tavares has had the hype.

Vikke
09-20-2008, 11:20 PM
That kid from winnipeg (??), nine years old or something? baseball talent as well. He comes to mind.

Granlund2Pulkkinen*
09-20-2008, 11:21 PM
Where's Orca Wiesblat :P

DreamCatcher*
09-20-2008, 11:32 PM
wasn't there a news feature on a kid that scored 200+ goals in a season?

Passchendaele
09-20-2008, 11:42 PM
Jayce Hawryluk?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-7-gxXfK34

octopi
09-20-2008, 11:45 PM
I remember a tv special on Russian hockey a couple years back, and they feature a kid named Zhenya Kuznetsov who was tearing up his league at age 12.

Qubax
09-21-2008, 06:56 PM
Anyone remember that kid, I think he was maybe from B.C....his name was something like "Ocean _ _ _ _ _ _"..I can remember his last name...but I remember thinking...who names their kid Ocean??? And maybe he actually will be good...

The Korean*
09-21-2008, 06:57 PM
Any Badgers fans here? A 14 year old committed to Wisconsin.

Don Draper
09-21-2008, 07:04 PM
there is always hope for dustin rose

rt
09-21-2008, 07:10 PM
there is always hope for dustin rose

I just knew that name would be resurected in this thread.

Stealth JD
09-21-2008, 07:40 PM
Anyone remember that kid, I think he was maybe from B.C....his name was something like "Ocean _ _ _ _ _ _"..I can remember his last name...but I remember thinking...who names their kid Ocean??? And maybe he actually will be good...Ocean Wiesblatt...he with the brother named Orca Wiesblatt

Hale The Villain
09-21-2008, 11:32 PM
Jayce Hawryluk?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-7-gxXfK34

He kinda sucks now

Well he's ok, just like everyone else. The team he is playing in that video was about 30 minutes from where I live. So is he like famous or something?

hockeywhiz
09-22-2008, 12:47 AM
Where's Orca Wiesblat :P

Didn't you see Orca Wiesblatt in Chicago last summer. He was the only 2000 born player on 1999 Chicago Selects team in Las Vegas. He joined Ocean and his teammates for one major tournament. Orca and Ocean were the only British Columbia born players representing 1999 Chicago Cougars.
I was a junior instructor at try out camp and saw four Wiesblatt boys. They're awesome. They are talking about Wiesblatt boys becoming next great hockey family. Of course, hockey is a great passion in Canada where Sutters, Niedermayers, Stalls, and Wiesblatts come from. One of parents mentioned to me that Ocean is riding 120 to 150 km every week during summer time. Other interesting thing about Ocean, he had been growing his hair in order to donate it for wigs for those battling cancer. I think it was about 15 inches that he donated. so, he's extremely mature and has a mental toughness. I could see he has a strong leadership as well.
However, I heard another rumor about Wiesblatt boys that a neighbouring association tried to recruit them because they would put Ocean in pee wee level instead of Atom and other kids in higher level. But, they backed out because their local minor hockey association threatened them with a long term suspension. Anyway, Wiesblatt boys are true child prodigies.

AgentNaslund*
09-22-2008, 03:31 AM
Alright, so I know that child prodigies in hockey only come along once in a blue, but they do happen. Crosby first got noticed when he was 13. Are there any youngsters who are starting to raise some eye brows like Crosby did?

Dave Gagner knew about Cody Hodgsons and Steve Stamkos when they were both 11 years old.

Jason Spezza was known by alot of scouts when he was age 11.

Sidney Crosby was probably discovered way before the age of 13.

Alot of star players get discovered, dosent mean, its "hes gonna be a super star"
but more like, "hes probably gonna end up playing in the NHL one day" type

Sony Eriksson*
09-22-2008, 10:14 AM
Ocean Wiesblatt...he with the brother named Orca Wiesblatt

Vancouver should sign Orca!

Teddy Peckman
09-22-2008, 11:04 AM
Vancouver should sign Orca!

Too bad the Whalers weren't still around. He could play on Hartford, and Ocean could play for the Islanders.

Cactus Jack
09-22-2008, 01:38 PM
Taylar Hall is only 16 or 17.

deanosaur
09-22-2008, 01:58 PM
Taylar Hall is only 16 or 17.

I really wouldn't call him a child prodigy. He is very good though.

JFA87-66-99
09-22-2008, 08:49 PM
Didn't you see Orca Wiesblatt in Chicago last summer. He was the only 2000 born player on 1999 Chicago Selects team in Las Vegas. He joined Ocean and his teammates for one major tournament. Orca and Ocean were the only British Columbia born players representing 1999 Chicago Cougars.
I was a junior instructor at try out camp and saw four Wiesblatt boys. They're awesome. They are talking about Wiesblatt boys becoming next great hockey family. Of course, hockey is a great passion in Canada where Sutters, Niedermayers, Stalls, and Wiesblatts come from. One of parents mentioned to me that Ocean is riding 120 to 150 km every week during summer time. Other interesting thing about Ocean, he had been growing his hair in order to donate it for wigs for those battling cancer. I think it was about 15 inches that he donated. so, he's extremely mature and has a mental toughness. I could see he has a strong leadership as well.
However, I heard another rumor about Wiesblatt boys that a neighbouring association tried to recruit them because they would put Ocean in pee wee level instead of Atom and other kids in higher level. But, they backed out because their local minor hockey association threatened them with a long term suspension. Anyway, Wiesblatt boys are true child prodigies.

How many points did Ocean score in atom hockey? It must have been a lot to be considered for Pee Wee already
What is the youngest a player has ever played Pee Wee level hockey?

CM-
09-23-2008, 03:17 AM
How many points did Ocean score in atom hockey? It must have been a lot to be considered for Pee Wee already
What is the youngest a player has ever played Pee Wee level hockey?

Wasn't Gretzky 9 or 10 in Pee wee hockey but it could be bantam he was in Atom at 6.

TheGoldenJet
09-23-2008, 05:33 PM
Ocean Wiesblatt...he with the brother named Orca Wiesblatt

Oh god that's rich. :laugh:

N Bahn Ahden
09-24-2008, 02:44 PM
I just knew that name would be resurected in this thread.

You can't lose faith that someday he will lace them up in the NHL.

rt
09-24-2008, 04:54 PM
You can't lose faith that someday he will lace them up in the NHL.

It's too soon to get back into this. It won't be funny again for another couple of years.

Epatt001
09-25-2008, 06:35 PM
why do you ask?

http://asapblogs.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/07/24/ap070327047448_3.jpg

CurtisLoew
09-26-2008, 02:14 AM
there is always hope for dustin rose

I heard he's benching 1400 pounds now, wasn't his draft year 08?

kingpin_19
09-26-2008, 02:22 AM
According to the Stratford Minor Hockey Association Mr. Dustin Rose won the Elwin (Moe) Morris Award in 2000 as the outstanding defenseman at the Major PeeWee Division...so that would make him 19 or 20 at this point...

deanosaur
09-26-2008, 02:42 AM
According to the Stratford Minor Hockey Association Mr. Dustin Rose won the Elwin (Moe) Morris Award in 2000 as the outstanding defenseman at the Major PeeWee Division...so that would make him 19 or 20 at this point...

Did I completely miss something?
Dustin Rose does sound a bit familiar... but not really ringin any bells.

JFA87-66-99
09-26-2008, 10:47 AM
That Dustin Rose cat stinks. He pulled a Stefan in a breakaway contest, and then fell and slamed into the boards breaking his ankle like crosby did.

Airborne Troll*
09-26-2008, 10:48 AM
It doesn't only take talent to get to the NHL

It takes speed, physical play and dedication

Jussi
09-26-2008, 01:15 PM
That Dustin Rose cat stinks. He pulled a Stefan in a breakaway contest, and then fell and slamed into the boards breaking his ankle like crosby did.

But that didn't stop him from playing in the next game and scoring a hat trick.

illogic
09-26-2008, 01:23 PM
That Dustin Rose cat stinks. He pulled a Stefan in a breakaway contest, and then fell and slamed into the boards breaking his ankle like crosby did.

You got it wrong, it was the boards that broke from contact with his ankle.

IBleedOil247
09-26-2008, 02:54 PM
Edwin Carriere from Edmonton. He will be my son when he is born in about 5 years. Look for him at the draft in 2030.

Heat McManus
09-28-2008, 05:45 PM
According to the Stratford Minor Hockey Association Mr. Dustin Rose won the Elwin (Moe) Morris Award in 2000 as the outstanding defenseman at the Major PeeWee Division...so that would make him 19 or 20 at this point...

Yeah except for the fact that Dustin Rose played Major PeeWee at 14 weeks.

DaveG
09-28-2008, 06:12 PM
Yeah except for the fact that Dustin Rose played Major PeeWee at 14 weeks.

Yeah but he was only 5'7, 180 at that point and only racked up 200 penalty minutes, all from fights. Nobody could tell the monster he would become.

the_speedster
09-28-2008, 06:14 PM
According to the Stratford Minor Hockey Association Mr. Dustin Rose won the Elwin (Moe) Morris Award in 2000 as the outstanding defenseman at the Major PeeWee Division...so that would make him 19 or 20 at this point...

I thought he was a forward :sarcasm:

Heat McManus
09-28-2008, 06:19 PM
Yeah but he was only 5'7, 180 at that point and only racked up 200 penalty minutes, all from fights. Nobody could tell the monster he would become.

It was actually 203 penalty minutes. All from fights. THAT'S how good DR is!

DaveG
09-28-2008, 06:31 PM
I've heard he's become even more badass the past couple years. That ref that tried to give him the instigator penalty last year? That was classic. I don't think I could have ever seen someone dropkick another human so hard that it would be like Bobby Knight punting that basketball. Well, Bobby kicking a basketball had NOTHING on Dustin.

the_speedster
09-28-2008, 10:42 PM
I've heard he's become even more badass the past couple years. That ref that tried to give him the instigator penalty last year? That was classic. I don't think I could have ever seen someone dropkick another human so hard that it would be like Bobby Knight punting that basketball. Well, Bobby kicking a basketball had NOTHING on Dustin.

I heard the NFL extended him an offer. If that little hockey thing didn't work out, he could always try being a kicker

Heat McManus
09-28-2008, 10:44 PM
I heard the NFL extended him an offer. If that little hockey thing didn't work out, he could always try being a kicker

their offer was open ended. Any team, any position. Just sign and destroy.

chaosrevolver
09-28-2008, 10:51 PM
John McFarland was talked about pretty early in his life. Maybe 11 or 12. He has a point in two games so far in his rookie season with Sudbury.

JFA87-66-99
09-29-2008, 09:42 AM
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Columnists/Friesen/2005/12/15/1354151-sun.html

I found this old article about Jayce Hawrluk. Is there any recent news about him? Is he still dominating like this? Does anyone know what team he was or is playing for, and in how many games did he score all these goals? I thought in Novice level they only played 20 games a season or so with maybe a few tournaments in there. Thats a lot of goals scored.
It says in the article he scored 250+ Goals in a season when he was 7 years old, and then 300+ Goals when he was 8 years old. I'm assuming it was the Novice division, but then it says he had 61 goals in 17 Games in his first season in Atom Hockey. Does anyone know what his stats were like for the past few seasons? Those stats in novice and atom seem a little unrealistic, and not even Wayne Gretzky had stats like that when he was a kid except for his 378 goal season when he was 10. What's the most Goals or Points a player has ever scored in 1 season in Novice,Atom,Pee Wee,or Bantam level hockey? I always thought nobody ever dominated there youth hockey days like gretzky, but after reading this article I'm not sure now. Also heard Ocean Wiesblatt dominated his novice division, but not sure about his exact stats, but I'm sure they were off the charts.

Ludicrous Speed
09-29-2008, 07:21 PM
Jayce Hawryluk?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-7-gxXfK34

some say he won't make it with that size.

SpinTheBlackCircle
09-29-2008, 08:30 PM
Didn't you see Orca Wiesblatt in Chicago last summer. He was the only 2000 born player on 1999 Chicago Selects team in Las Vegas. He joined Ocean and his teammates for one major tournament. Orca and Ocean were the only British Columbia born players representing 1999 Chicago Cougars.
I was a junior instructor at try out camp and saw four Wiesblatt boys. They're awesome. They are talking about Wiesblatt boys becoming next great hockey family. Of course, hockey is a great passion in Canada where Sutters, Niedermayers, Stalls, and Wiesblatts come from. One of parents mentioned to me that Ocean is riding 120 to 150 km every week during summer time. Other interesting thing about Ocean, he had been growing his hair in order to donate it for wigs for those battling cancer. I think it was about 15 inches that he donated. so, he's extremely mature and has a mental toughness. I could see he has a strong leadership as well.
However, I heard another rumor about Wiesblatt boys that a neighbouring association tried to recruit them because they would put Ocean in pee wee level instead of Atom and other kids in higher level. But, they backed out because their local minor hockey association threatened them with a long term suspension. Anyway, Wiesblatt boys are true child prodigies.

http://www.jewishindependent.ca/Archives/Nov07/archives07Nov09-06.html

Wow, the kid is 8 and speaks 4 languages as well. Both parents are deaf but all 4 kids can hear.

Jussi
10-01-2008, 07:40 AM
I thought he was a forward :sarcasm:

He can play any position, forward, defenseman, goalie.

kingpin_19
10-01-2008, 07:00 PM
He can play any position, forward, defenseman, goalie.

I heard the Leafs were looking at him as their next GM. Their plan was to trade all of their players away (except Schenn) and replace them with players from the Central Hockey League and make Dustin the playing-General Manager. A seemingly flawless plan. However, the deal fell through when Rose demanded that he get 600 grizzly bears to kill and feed on, and the Bruins...well, lets just say they were threatening to sue...

deanosaur
10-01-2008, 07:04 PM
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=122095

:laugh: *******s.

Hockey is my life
08-19-2009, 10:12 PM
Having had the pleasure to coach Orca Wiesblatt, I have to say that he is not the prodigy child some think. He beats to the tune of his own drum and is not a team player. When he tries to skate end to end and gets checked, there is no backchecking, just waiting for another breakout pass.

Seems to me like this is marketing propaganda with an agenda. He has a lot of work ahead of him if he wants to succeed.:shakehead

glovesave_35
08-19-2009, 10:59 PM
By definition, wouldn't we all kind of already know if there were a child prodigy out there? I mean, wasn't Crosby's "behind the net fling it into the net in midair" goal shown on HNIC when he was 15ish?...and even then his name had been known for a while.

monotone
08-20-2009, 12:39 AM
Can somebody tell me what ever happened to Sam Calabrese?

Spamhuis
08-20-2009, 12:58 AM
Calabrese, a 5-foot-10, 170-pound defenseman for the U.S. National Team Development Program in Ann Arbor, Mich., played in 47 games for the U-17 team last year and had 12 points (4 goals, 8 assists). He figures the time most of the players spent together last year will pay off as he dons the U-18 jersey this season.

Granlund2Pulkkinen*
08-20-2009, 01:23 AM
Can somebody tell me what ever happened to Sam Calabrese?

Growth spurt...

he's not a very nice guy either. I know a few of his friends.

William H Bonney
08-20-2009, 02:36 AM
Calabrese, a 5-foot-10, 170-pound defenseman for the U.S. National Team Development Program in Ann Arbor, Mich., played in 47 games for the U-17 team last year and had 12 points (4 goals, 8 assists). He figures the time most of the players spent together last year will pay off as he dons the U-18 jersey this season.

This is a year old. Calabrese was one the U-18 team this year but was demoted to the U-17 team. His time with the NTDP is over.

mercury
08-20-2009, 04:39 AM
Angelo Esposito was fairly young when people were hyping him on here. Devon MacAusland, too.

james bond
08-20-2009, 12:42 PM
Does anyone have thoughts on Jordan Challis (the New Zealander), who was somewhere in the Markham Waxers team?

monotone
08-20-2009, 01:07 PM
Growth spurt...

he's not a very nice guy either. I know a few of his friends.

So he's got attitude problems? What else is setting him back?

Like can anybody tell me what his chances are to make it to the NHL, if ever?

I just did a little research, and saw that he is committed to Notre Dame. Does anyone think his time in the NCAA will help him develop into a good prospect?

kmillzy5
08-20-2009, 01:45 PM
http://kimmacdonaldimages.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/DSC_9642tuvigbwhcblog.jpg
the scouts like his skill, but his work ethic is a constant issue..

Hanson95
08-20-2009, 01:58 PM
Lol. Nathan MacKinnon? He lives in NS, but is going to Shattuck, the same prep school Crosby went to for hockey.

BigAl
08-20-2009, 06:45 PM
That kid from winnipeg (??), nine years old or something? baseball talent as well. He comes to mind.

Yeah, I remember reading about a kid here in Winnipeg, in the local paper. I didn't bother taking note of his name though, because he is still so far away from being drafted.

AmartZing
08-20-2009, 07:21 PM
Lol i scouted Marian Gaborik when he was something like 13-14 in Quebec Pee Wee tournament...the kid was awesome...i remember him from there

kmillzy5
08-20-2009, 08:39 PM
Lol i scouted Marian Gaborik when he was something like 13-14 in Quebec Pee Wee tournament...the kid was awesome...i remember him from there

played that tournament 5 years back.. everyone on team Russia was amazing..

Canad93
08-20-2009, 10:12 PM
Dave Gagner knew about Cody Hodgsons and Steve Stamkos when they were both 11 years old.

Jason Spezza was known by alot of scouts when he was age 11.

Sidney Crosby was probably discovered way before the age of 13.

Alot of star players get discovered, dosent mean, its "hes gonna be a super star"
but more like, "hes probably gonna end up playing in the NHL one day" type

That's because Sam Gagner played on their team...
That was the legendary Markham Waxers team coached by Paul Titanic that won something like 7 AAA All-Ontario's in a row wasn't it?

Canad93
08-20-2009, 10:19 PM
Nik Antropov was scouted at the Riverside International Bantam/Midget Tournament in Windsor, Ontario when Team Kazakhstan came...He was the 1993 Tournament MVP.

There was a kid from the Moscow North Stars selects team a few years ago..maybe 07/08 season. His name was Ilya Novikov. He did really well; fast as hell, great hands, great shot, gritty. He had a temper too. He got into some scrums, and when he got pissed off, he would smoke people. He kind of took it too far though, with his bad attitude.
He was scouted by Saginaw, Peterborough, Plymouth, Windsor and maybe a few other OHL teams, and actually was invited to skate with some apparently.
I don't know what happened to him though; haven't heard much of him since.
:laugh: There was a fight at the end of the championship game, a big one after Moscow beat some Michigan team in OT. Novikov ended up taking someone's stick and smashing it in two over the glass, but after the game he went over and gave him two more..

WhiskeyYourTheDevils
08-20-2009, 10:38 PM
that kid kevin roy was pretty sick when he was 13 (atleast in the shootout). Anybody know where hes at now?

Slitty
08-21-2009, 05:50 AM
I remember a tv special on Russian hockey a couple years back, and they feature a kid named Zhenya Kuznetsov who was tearing up his league at age 12.
The one who will likely be a first rounder in the coming draft?

New Liskeard
08-21-2009, 11:54 AM
http://www.jewishindependent.ca/Archives/Nov07/archives07Nov09-06.html

Wow, the kid is 8 and speaks 4 languages as well. Both parents are deaf but all 4 kids can hear.

Deafness is not necesarilly herediatary, both my sister and I are hearing while our parents are not. I actually know some people with the name of Weisblatt, where are they from? Who are the parents?

Ryan Van Horne
08-21-2009, 01:26 PM
The one who will likely be a first rounder in the coming draft?

That's Evgeny, no? Or is Zhenya a nickname for Evgeny like Sasha is for Alexander and Pasha for Pavel?

rt
07-22-2013, 01:53 AM
Bump. How are the prodigies coming along? Jayce Hawryluk looks like he will be a first round NHL draft pick, but what about some of the other names?

jfb392
07-22-2013, 02:22 AM
Bump. How are the prodigies coming along? Jayce Hawryluk looks like he will be a first round NHL draft pick, but what about some of the other names?Looks like the only name mentioned that isn't fairly well known yet is Ocean Wiesblatt.
As a 99, the upcoming season is his WHL draft year, but I'm not even completely sure where he's playing.
He was listed as an affiliate player with the Calgary Buffaloes Bantam AAA team for a bit of time, but never played any games and is not even playing within the CBHA system on a AA team.
I believe he's likely playing for Shaw Meadows, a lower level association that covers the same area as CBHA.

Patmac40
07-22-2013, 02:23 AM
Bump. How are the prodigies coming along? Jayce Hawryluk looks like he will be a first round NHL draft pick, but what about some of the other names?

Will he? That's pretty cool if he is. And Zhenya is Yevgeni Kuznetsov from earlier in this thread which is cool to think about.

Todds Chiropractory
07-22-2013, 02:30 AM
Lol. Nathan MacKinnon? He lives in NS, but is going to Shattuck, the same prep school Crosby went to for hockey.Pretty amazing he got mentioned 4 years before his draft year and then goes first overall.

tucker3434
07-22-2013, 02:45 AM
Pretty amazing he got mentioned 4 years before his draft year and then goes first overall.

Not bad considering he was 13 at the time. That's a hell of a projection.

maroon 6
07-22-2013, 02:46 AM
Lol. Nathan MacKinnon? He lives in NS, but is going to Shattuck, the same prep school Crosby went to for hockey.

Good call. Mackinnon was 13 when this comment was posted.

Leaf Rocket
07-22-2013, 03:00 AM
Some pretty cool things for sure.

WhiskeyYourTheDevils
07-22-2013, 07:57 AM
that kid kevin roy was pretty sick when he was 13 (atleast in the shootout). Anybody know where hes at now?

Seems to be a very promising prospect with 1st line potential now after a superb freshman year in the NCAA. I think he could end up being a big time goal scorer with those hands.

NEhockeycoach
07-22-2013, 08:42 AM
I'm not going to call this kid a prodigy, but a name to keep an eye out for as a little guy in New England is Jake Wise. 2000 born player, set a new scoring record in Tournois International De Hockey Pee-Wee de Quebec (or called the Q around here). 19 points in 6 games. Time will tell if he continues to develop along this path.

S E P H
07-22-2013, 01:12 PM
Here is a few I am currently watching due to the hype,

Mathias Emilio Pettersen - Norway
Adam Tilander (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=147733) - Sweden
Kieran Brown (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=233990) - England
Vitaly Abramov - Russia

There is also supposed to be an amazing American player who was born somewhere around 2000, but I forgot his name.

danyhabsfan
07-22-2013, 01:22 PM
I'm not going to call this kid a prodigy, but a name to keep an eye out for as a little guy in New England is Jake Wise. 2000 born player, set a new scoring record in Tournois International De Hockey Pee-Wee de Quebec (or called the Q around here). 19 points in 6 games. Time will tell if he continues to develop along this path.

any video of this kid?

irunthepeg
07-22-2013, 02:28 PM
Lol. Nathan MacKinnon? He lives in NS, but is going to Shattuck, the same prep school Crosby went to for hockey.

Nice call on that one.

JJTT
07-22-2013, 02:36 PM
From Finland Urho Vaakainen has been talked about for almost 2 years now and he's only 14. Already playing on the u18 league.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=180538

dwanmaster*
07-22-2013, 02:58 PM
From Finland Urho Vaakainen has been talked about for almost 2 years now and he's only 14. Allready playing on the u18 league.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=180538

Sick Name!

seadawg
07-22-2013, 03:00 PM
Here is a few I am currently watching due to the hype,

Mathias Emilio Pettersen - Norway
Adam Tilander (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=147733) - Sweden
Kieran Brown (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=233990) - England
Vitaly Abramov - Russia

There is also supposed to be an amazing American player who was born somewhere around 2000, but I forgot his name.

there's a non-traditional hockey market for you...be interested to see if he gets drafted...he'd surely have to move to another country at some point if he wants to continue to develop, I assume

Brewster
07-22-2013, 06:17 PM
Will he? That's pretty cool if he is. And Zhenya is Yevgeni Kuznetsov from earlier in this thread which is cool to think about.
http://www.whl.ca/roster/show/id/10645

Plays for Brandon in the WHL. 43 points in 61 games last year.

will13
07-23-2013, 04:14 AM
Jake wise. One of the more dominant peewee players I've seen. Watched him play in that tournament in Quebec and he lit it up. Keep your eye on him

BillDineen
07-23-2013, 04:58 AM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dustin%20Rose

FrozenJagrt
07-23-2013, 07:38 PM
That poster mentioning MacKinnon wasn't exactly reading tea leaves or anything. Even back then MacKinnon was very well known. I remember hearing about him around that time, had read an article where some scout felt that MacKinnon would be the next Lindros. Obviously that never transpired. But yes, MacKinnon has been a well known name for years.

FrozenJagrt
07-23-2013, 07:40 PM
Seems to be a very promising prospect with 1st line potential now after a superb freshman year in the NCAA. I think he could end up being a big time goal scorer with those hands.

First line potential? Really? He's 5'10, 170 pounds, turned 20 in May and was taken in the fourth round in 2012. A good (not great) NCAA year doesn't make him a future superstar.

IHaveNoCreativity
07-24-2013, 03:42 AM
Joey Veleno, he's probably the best 2000 in QC. He's bigger then most of the kids though.

He will likely play Midget AAA at 14... From there I don't know. Someone to watch for though.

He might have a shot.

f1nn
07-24-2013, 05:40 AM
Sick Name!

even better on google translate: https://translate.google.fi/?hl=en&tab=wT#auto/en/urho%20vaakanainen

Mighty woman with a horizontal :D :laugh:

CouchScout
07-24-2013, 01:03 PM
Sean Dhooghe-USA(1999) and Brady Berger-Canada(1999) are a couple of names I have seen thrown around here.

Propane Nightmares
07-24-2013, 02:23 PM
there's a non-traditional hockey market for you...be interested to see if he gets drafted...he'd surely have to move to another country at some point if he wants to continue to develop, I assume

This kid scored 164 points in 15 games in the U12 league, nobody else has even come close to those numbers in the last 10 years of recorded stats.

By not even close, I'm talking nobody has even scored 100 points. Brendan Perlini (OHL Niagara) scored 89 points in 17 games at the same level.

Breakfast of Champs
07-24-2013, 02:34 PM
This kid scored 164 points in 15 games in the U12 league, nobody else has even come close to those numbers in the last 10 years of recorded stats.

By not even close, I'm talking nobody has even scored 100 points. Brendan Perlini (OHL Niagara) scored 89 points in 17 games at the same level.

....What are the scores of these games???

Propane Nightmares
07-24-2013, 02:37 PM
....What are the scores of these games???

Keiran Brown's team scored more than 11 goals per game and conceded less than 6 per game. The games are usually 3x15 periods of stop clock. But these statistics do not represent the league average at all.

He scored 141 of his teams' 189 goals

sharks9
07-24-2013, 02:46 PM
This kid scored 164 points in 15 games in the U12 league, nobody else has even come close to those numbers in the last 10 years of recorded stats.

By not even close, I'm talking nobody has even scored 100 points. Brendan Perlini (OHL Niagara) scored 89 points in 17 games at the same level.

He averages over 10PPG? That's insane, no matter what league it is.

Propane Nightmares
07-24-2013, 02:49 PM
He also lead the U14 league in scoring with 80 points in 18 games

Leafs21
07-24-2013, 03:40 PM
This kid scored 164 points in 15 games in the U12 league, nobody else has even come close to those numbers in the last 10 years of recorded stats.

By not even close, I'm talking nobody has even scored 100 points. Brendan Perlini (OHL Niagara) scored 89 points in 17 games at the same level.

... I think the coach needs to keep him on a shorter leash. lol how is that even fun for anybody? Including him?

WhiskeyYourTheDevils
07-24-2013, 04:31 PM
First line potential? Really?

Definitely has the potential. That's no guarantee he will reach it, but the talent is there.

He's 5'10, 170 pounds,

This guy (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=5710) didn't seem to have too hard a time being a 1st line player. He's pretty much the exact same size as Roy.

turned 20 in May

And? That's insanely young, plenty of time to add muscle to his frame. What more could he have done so far to prove his potential?

and was taken in the fourth round in 2012.
Surely you're not basing a player solely off of their draft position, especially one who greatly exceeded expectations as a freshman?

A good (not great) NCAA year doesn't make him a future superstar.

How many true freshman are able to come in and score at that pace? 17 goals (t-4th in the league) 34 points in only 29 GP? Lead his team in scoring with 5 less GP than everyone else.

He had one of the better freshman years in recent memory, scoring at a similar pace as Phil Kessel in his freshman year, and outscoring guys like Toews, Turris, Okposo, Zajac, and many others in there freshman year.

You might want to rethink your position on him. Also, no one is claiming he'll be a future superstar.

Propane Nightmares
07-25-2013, 12:40 AM
... I think the coach needs to keep him on a shorter leash. lol how is that even fun for anybody? Including him?

Under 12 hockey in Britain is basically a couple of good kids on each team play while the rest get in the way. Since there aren't many players there is only an A and B league throughout the junior age groups so there are kids who easily dominate.

This is why we suck at international level because the good players aren't challenged enough and don't get better. At this age, some of the best British players would be good enough to go to Canada and play very high level. Brendan Perlini played hockey in England until he was 13 then went back to Canada and ended up being a 1st round OHL pick, while his brother went back to Canada when he was slightly older and was taken in the 7th round of the NHL draft and played NCAA. Their cousin Scott Conway is another similar case, who this year had a great season in the NAHL and was drafted 7th overall in the USHL draft.

And as previously mentioned, Keiran Brown's points totals blow away all three of these guys.

NMFlyer1998
07-25-2013, 03:55 AM
This kid scored 164 points in 15 games in the U12 league, nobody else has even come close to those numbers in the last 10 years of recorded stats.

By not even close, I'm talking nobody has even scored 100 points. Brendan Perlini (OHL Niagara) scored 89 points in 17 games at the same level.
:walrus:

Propane Nightmares
07-25-2013, 04:40 AM
If you want confirmation of these statistics, here you go

http://stats.malcolmpreen.co.uk/juniorstats.html

He plays in U12 North 1, and U14 North 1

Hagged
07-25-2013, 05:17 AM
If you want confirmation of these statistics, here you go

http://stats.malcolmpreen.co.uk/juniorstats.html

He plays in U12 North 1, and U14 North 1

Kieran Brown seems to have a lot healthier goal to assist ratio in U14 (2.0). That g/a ratio of 6.1 in U12 just screams of bad habits crawling in he just shouldn't have played in there. U16 level seems to have been a bit overwhelming for him, 2 points in 16 games. Why do you think that is, when you think he was also the leading scorer in U14 league by a big margin? Size issues? Skating issues?

Propane Nightmares
07-25-2013, 07:09 AM
Kieran Brown seems to have a lot healthier goal to assist ratio in U14 (2.0). That g/a ratio of 6.1 in U12 just screams of bad habits crawling in he just shouldn't have played in there. U16 level seems to have been a bit overwhelming for him, 2 points in 16 games. Why do you think that is, when you think he was also the leading scorer in U14 league by a big margin? Size issues? Skating issues?

He played in the U16 league last season, when he was 10/11 years old, that should speak for itself. He didn't play in it this season because the rules were changed, meaning he wasn't allowed.

JFA87-66-99
07-25-2013, 07:14 AM
Stats are unreal for Brown. How is Emilio-Pettersson been doing haven't heard much lately

wings5
07-25-2013, 09:29 AM
Kieran Brown seems to have a lot healthier goal to assist ratio in U14 (2.0). That g/a ratio of 6.1 in U12 just screams of bad habits crawling in he just shouldn't have played in there. U16 level seems to have been a bit overwhelming for him, 2 points in 16 games. Why do you think that is, when you think he was also the leading scorer in U14 league by a big margin? Size issues? Skating issues?

Is he planning on a move to NA anytime soon?

Propane Nightmares
07-25-2013, 10:51 AM
Is he planning on a move to NA anytime soon?

I don't know. Even if he doesn't, his parents could at least drive him down to Sheffield, he'd be much better off there than at Bradford.

L4vK
07-25-2013, 12:23 PM
Stats are unreal for Brown. How is Emilio-Pettersson been doing haven't heard much lately

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiAvZ0N9BfA

Good I think :naughty:

blink
07-26-2013, 12:09 AM
Tyler Benson, Vancouver Giants 1st overall pick in this year's WHL draft.

Lots of people know about him now but I heard he had some pretty amazing stats as a younger kid.

Absolutely tore up the AMBHL this past year, breaking Ty Rattie's points record.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=154220

alko
07-26-2013, 10:30 AM
I readed something about Milos Roman (http://www.hokejportal.net/?q=clanok/43840/objavili-v-kanade-druheho-panika), 13 years old Slovak kid.
Last season he played already in Czech U16 and his stats (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=223844) are not so bad.

Did someone saw him on the last tournament in december in Windsor?

Scarecrow Boat
07-26-2013, 07:58 PM
Here is a few I am currently watching due to the hype,

Mathias Emilio Pettersen - Norway
Adam Tilander (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=147733) - Sweden
Kieran Brown (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=233990) - England
Vitaly Abramov - Russia

There is also supposed to be an amazing American player who was born somewhere around 2000, but I forgot his name.

Never heard of that Swede before :sarcasm:

JFA87-66-99
07-27-2013, 09:57 AM
Here is a few I am currently watching due to the hype,

Mathias Emilio Pettersen - Norway
Adam Tilander (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=147733) - Sweden
Kieran Brown (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=233990) - England
Vitaly Abramov - Russia

There is also supposed to be an amazing American player who was born somewhere around 2000, but I forgot his name.

This is the first I've really seen Vitaly Abramov listed as a phenom. Is he better than Dmitry Sokolov. I'd really like to hear some more info about that those 2 russian prospects

S E P H
07-27-2013, 02:20 PM
This is the first I've really seen Vitaly Abramov listed as a phenom. Is he better than Dmitry Sokolov. I'd really like to hear some more info about that those 2 russian prospects

Like every child prodigy Abramov absolutely dominates the lower leagues to the point he is playing against older kids. Can't tell you ir Somolov is better, but there are a few YouTube highlights you need to check out for Abramov.

PeakOil
07-27-2013, 07:09 PM
Tyler Benson, Vancouver Giants 1st overall pick in this year's WHL draft.

Lots of people know about him now but I heard he had some pretty amazing stats as a younger kid.

Absolutely tore up the AMBHL this past year, breaking Ty Rattie's points record.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=154220

Ya this kid is for real, absolutely dominant compared to his peers. Slick hands, good skater, great shot, size, he's got it all.

Roof Daddy
07-28-2013, 11:00 AM
I can't remember the name of the kid, but there was a kid playing AAA pee wee in Toronto who was already 6'3 and 200+ lbs. He was putting up good numbers, but nothing record breaking. Still, you can't teach size and the league values it highly.

NobodyBeatsTheWiz
07-28-2013, 02:38 PM
I can't remember the name of the kid, but there was a kid playing AAA pee wee in Toronto who was already 6'3 and 200+ lbs. He was putting up good numbers, but nothing record breaking. Still, you can't teach size and the league values it highly.

If's he not dominating at that comparative size to his competition, he doesn't seem like much of a prospect to me.

ALI
11-03-2013, 10:52 PM
update: Ocean and Orca Wiseblatt were banned from making triple aaa because they stole phones and bad mouthed the players and coaches. I hear they tearing up there div. what a shame.......

Torgo
11-03-2013, 10:56 PM
I wonder if somebody could Marinovich a hockey player to create a prodigy.

Devilspuppet666
11-03-2013, 11:11 PM
Jayce Hawryluk?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-7-gxXfK34

he really doesnt like to pass :laugh:

alko
11-04-2013, 05:02 AM
update: Ocean and Orca Wiseblatt were banned from making triple aaa because they stole phones and bad mouthed the players and coaches. I hear they tearing up there div. what a shame.......

:amazed: Tell us more.

Fonzieleaf
11-04-2013, 08:53 AM
Those kids are in roller hockey, not ice hockey

ALI
11-04-2013, 11:11 PM
:amazed: Tell us more.

well there's nothing more to be said, but I still think 'ocean will get signed by a WHL team. Orca is only 12 so he can tryout for triple aaa next year if he's allowed and get drafted.

Kevin8se7en
11-05-2013, 02:29 AM
I know Dustin Rose is a joke but is he even a real person? I wasn't really on message boards when the joke was popular so I missed all of it apparently. I'm not sure if he more like a Chuck Norris (exaggerated real person) or the Dos Equis Guy (fake person entirely)

I'm sure I'll get some "funny" replies but it's a serious question. Was he some kid who had one amazing game and sucked after that? Was he a made up child prodigy? something else? lol I'm curious.

InfinityIggy
11-05-2013, 02:44 AM
I know Dustin Rose is a joke but is he even a real person? I wasn't really on message boards when the joke was popular so I missed all of it apparently. I'm not sure if he more like a Chuck Norris (exaggerated real person) or the Dos Equis Guy (fake person entirely)

I'm sure I'll get some "funny" replies but it's a serious question. Was he some kid who had one amazing game and sucked after that? Was he a made up child prodigy? something else? lol I'm curious.

Dates back to roughly 2001~ on these boards. Do not believe he was ever a real person, just a hyperbole for the over rating of prospects.

Hybbe
11-05-2013, 05:58 PM
Adam Tilander is the new Gunnar Stahl.

Kevin8se7en
11-06-2013, 04:23 PM
Dates back to roughly 2001~ on these boards. Do not believe he was ever a real person, just a hyperbole for the over rating of prospects.

Thanks :thumbu:

MHJS
11-07-2013, 08:36 AM
This just made me realize that I've been coming to this site for 11 years. Came across it in January 2002. Holy crap.

Garyboy
11-09-2013, 06:14 PM
I know Dustin Rose is a joke but is he even a real person?

He was a feature dancer/stripper for Chippendales in the late 90's. Apparently he was as graceful as Baryshnikov on stage. Only difference is Dustin's horn was hanging out during his shows.

Propane Nightmares
03-01-2014, 08:38 AM
Bump for a little update on Kieran Brown

In 14 games in the U14 league he has scored 76 goals and 44 assists for 120 points. He will still be a U14 next year, and the next highest scorer in the league has 84 points.

In the U16 league he has 20 points in 9 games

masterandy18
03-01-2014, 09:02 AM
That poster mentioning MacKinnon wasn't exactly reading tea leaves or anything. Even back then MacKinnon was very well known. I remember hearing about him around that time, had read an article where some scout felt that MacKinnon would be the next Lindros. Obviously that never transpired. But yes, MacKinnon has been a well known name for years.

Isn't that the point of this thread? lol give him credit. If you were so confident, you should have posted

scoutman1
03-01-2014, 10:09 AM
Bump for a little update on Kieran Brown

In 14 games in the U14 league he has scored 76 goals and 44 assists for 120 points. He will still be a U14 next year, and the next highest scorer in the league has 84 points.

In the U16 league he has 20 points in 9 games

still that is great britian league....I want to see him when he gets a little older and come over to NA to test his skills.

Propane Nightmares
03-01-2014, 10:58 AM
still that is great britian league....I want to see him when he gets a little older and come over to NA to test his skills.

Yes, but these kind of numbers are unprecedented even in the Great Britain league

prospects follower7
03-01-2014, 03:39 PM
Kieran Brown played for England during the Quebec pee wee tournament last week. Here is the link for his stats:

http://www.tournoipee-wee.qc.ca/fr/stats/2013-2014/pee-wee/pee-wee-int-c/page/classement-joueurs/5:10481

scoutman1
03-01-2014, 04:05 PM
Kieran Brown played for England during the Quebec pee wee tournament last week. Here is the link for his stats:

http://www.tournoipee-wee.qc.ca/fr/stats/2013-2014/pee-wee/pee-wee-int-c/page/classement-joueurs/5:10481


im not sure how the peewee tournament leagues are set but AAA is the main peewee league...did he not play in the C.

prospects follower7
03-01-2014, 04:11 PM
By the way, here is the link for Xavier Parent's stats for the same tournament in AAA category (His team won the championship):

http://www.tournoipee-wee.qc.ca/fr/stats/2013-2014/pee-wee/pee-wee-aaa/page/classement-joueurs/5:10258

Scarecrow Boat
03-01-2014, 06:43 PM
im not sure how the peewee tournament leagues are set but AAA is the main peewee league...did he not play in the C.

I'm not sure of the levels either despite asking many people so I checked the Atlantic teams in INT-C & INT-B and they were both peewee AAA teams.

JFG
11-06-2014, 12:17 PM
kwALB_Ypuy8

Silky mitts.

Woodhouse
11-06-2014, 12:17 PM
An 11-y/o from Japan is making the rounds on some of the hockey blogs today:

kwALB_Ypuy8

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/who-is-aito-iguchi--11-year-old-japanese-hockey-wizard-162929036.html

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/must-see-11-year-old-japanese-hockey-prodigy/

sjci
11-06-2014, 12:18 PM
There’s an 11-year old currently playing for Japan’s Saitama Junior Warriors that, if what he can do with the puck stays with him through adolescence, we may be hearing about come the 2021 NHL Draft.

Meet Aito Iguchi, viral dangler extraordinaire.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/who-is-aito-iguchi--11-year-old-japanese-hockey-wizard-162929036.html

kwALB_Ypuy8

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JJTT
11-06-2014, 12:18 PM
That defense though. Ugh.

ottawa
11-06-2014, 12:18 PM
Some really slick moves, where country is he playing in right now?

ottawa
11-06-2014, 12:21 PM
Someone just made this thread a few seconds before you lol, this kid looks awesome, some real slick moves and nice passing plays too. I'd like to see what he could do against better competition though, those kids never heard the word defense

sjci
11-06-2014, 12:24 PM
Someone just made this thread a few seconds before you lol, this kid looks awesome, some real slick moves and nice passing plays too. I'd like to see what he could do against better competition though, those kids never heard the word defense

Definitely. Will be interesting to see if he makes the jump over to North America anytime soon.

Also, sweet av. Lights :yo:

CanadienShark
11-06-2014, 12:25 PM
A buddy posted this on FB earlier today... holy ****. That's unreal.

PRNuck
11-06-2014, 12:26 PM
I hope there's an english word that rhymes with Aito or Iguchi by the 2020s :/

Brad Doty
11-06-2014, 12:27 PM
Am I the only one that thinks little kids dangling is the cutest thing ever? They always look like they have giant heads due to equipment :laugh:

Seriously, great hands...but the kind of kid who will stagnate in his development unless he sees better competition soon. Would be great to see him come over and learn the flow of the game at a high level when he's a teen. Always love hockey developing around the world and having a talent like that can do it.

GlobeHockey
11-06-2014, 12:29 PM
Glad to see the Hockey World expanding more and more. Another reason why it's important NHLer's take part in future Olympics. Growing the game Worldwide is a priority everyone in the Hockey World should have. Can you imagine one day the NHL draft consisting of top picks from China and Japan. That would be wonderful lol.

canovin
11-06-2014, 12:30 PM
Robbie Schremp V2.0 if he doesn't come over to NA. Sky is the limit if he does.

Bender
11-06-2014, 12:31 PM
That kid's got Corsi coming out his wazoo!!!! :laugh:

Guru Meditation
11-06-2014, 12:31 PM
2021. That's a long time away. This kid might be good, but is he good enough to defeat our robot overlords?

ottawa
11-06-2014, 12:33 PM
This has an 50% chance of getting infracted, but aren't Japanese known for growing up to a height of like 5'6 or 5'7 or something...that alone kills his chances in the NHL :laugh:


edit: its not even a stereotype like I thought, i looked it up and average height for male japanese: 5'731

Scarecrow Boat
11-06-2014, 12:34 PM
He already played in NA.

He & his team played in the Bell Capital Cup in Ottawa. He was 2nd in the tournament in scoring in the Major Atom AAA division and his team finished 6th (2-2-1)

Beesfan
11-06-2014, 12:36 PM
It's funny, these kids who are flagged as youtube sensations seem to actually pan out as at least major junior or NCAA players, and often as some sort of NHL prospect. Admittedly small sample.

GlobeHockey
11-06-2014, 12:38 PM
http://hockeygods.com/system/gallery_images/892/normal.jpg?1291329508

Been a long time since Japan has played at the Olympics, but with this kid and Yukata Fukufuji, I'm liking their chances for the 2022 games! lol

By the way, Teiji Honma in the photo was wearing a mask in 1936, way before Mr. Jacques Plante supposeably wore the ''first'' mask. And can not recall, but there is even one more before Mr. Honma that wore a mask, but just a little tidbit.

Marlowe Syn
11-06-2014, 12:39 PM
kwALB_Ypuy8

Silky mitts.
That kid is filthy. Not sure how quality youth developmental hockey is in Japan. Hopefully he can find chance to test his skills against higher tiered leagues and develop into the best player he can be.

sjci
11-06-2014, 12:39 PM
he already played in na.

He & his team played in the bell capital cup in ottawa. He was 2nd in the tournament in scoring in the major atom aaa division and his team finished 6th (2-2-1)

5 gp - 8 g - 7a - 15p - 6pim

Chau Vo
11-06-2014, 12:41 PM
5 gp - 8 g - 7a - 15p - 6pim

Meh, with those numbers he's nothing more than the next John Scott.

Scarecrow Boat
11-06-2014, 12:41 PM
http://hockeygods.com/system/gallery_images/892/normal.jpg?1291329508

Been a long time since Japan has played at the Olympics, but with this kid and Yukata Fukufuji, I'm liking their chances for the 2022 games! lol

By the way, Teiji Honma in the photo was wearing a mask in 1936, way before Mr. Jacques Plante supposeably wore the ''first'' mask. And can not recall, but there is even one more before Mr. Honma that wore a mask, but just a little tidbit.

Uh... Japan played in the '98 Olympics. They were the host.

GlobeHockey
11-06-2014, 12:41 PM
5 gp - 8 g - 7a - 15p - 6pim

How does that compare to past junior prospects that have played in that tournament?

GlobeHockey
11-06-2014, 12:42 PM
Uh... Japan played in the '98 Olympics. They were the host.

Exactly...been 16 years, ''a long time''.

BackGroundMusic
11-06-2014, 12:44 PM
2021. That's a long time away. This kid might be good, but is he good enough to defeat our robot overlords?

Dude. He's Japanese. He programmed the robots. :shakehead

Keke
11-06-2014, 12:48 PM
Meh, with those numbers he's nothing more than the next John Scott.

If he becomes even half the player John Scott is he should be happy. Snipers of his calibre isn't easily found

RBAjzNnNlSg

Scarecrow Boat
11-06-2014, 12:55 PM
Exactly...been 16 years, ''a long time''.

lol that's nothing for a D1 team.

bluesfan94
11-06-2014, 12:58 PM
He doesn't really look like that great of a skater to me. Sure, he's getting around the defenders, but they're 11 year old Japanese kids as well, as I understand it. They aren't exactly the best people to compare to.

JayKing
11-06-2014, 01:01 PM
Wonder where he'll end up developping if he chooses to do so. Would be cool to see him in go to Russia.

S E P H
11-06-2014, 01:14 PM
This has an 50% chance of getting infracted, but aren't Japanese known for growing up to a height of like 5'6 or 5'7 or something...that alone kills his chances in the NHL :laugh:


edit: its not even a stereotype like I thought, i looked it up and average height for male japanese: 5'731
I see it more along the lines of Datsyuk. If this kid, or any kid for that matter has the talent level, creativity, vision, and stickhandling that Datsyuk possesses, the kid will never be hit because he will see it coming. How many times has Datsyuk ever had a crushing hit on him? I think I could remember around 3 times in his WHOLE career and the last one came from Drew Doughty. Hall is already close to 20 in this category. :laugh: If he progresses to NHL talent, he might not be a top 5 selection due to height, but if Grimaldi could be drafted, then any talented player can.

He doesn't really look like that great of a skater to me. Sure, he's getting around the defenders, but they're 11 year old Japanese kids as well, as I understand it. They aren't exactly the best people to compare to.
My Gunner fan, he's playing in Ottawa. These are good ole Canadian kids that are going to become the next Drew Doughtys and Alex Pietrangelos......well not really, but the quality of the competition is definitely there compared to other European or Asian nations.

Here is the league he plays in via Scarecrowboat
http://bell_capital_cup.stats.pointstreak.com/players-division-leaders.html?divisionid=71016&seasonid=11893

MapleLeafs9
11-06-2014, 01:28 PM
What a god.

JFG
11-06-2014, 01:30 PM
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=600400746753459

Found this aswell :laugh:

Sorry for facebook but I couldn't find another source.

Patmac40
11-06-2014, 01:37 PM
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=600400746753459

Found this aswell :laugh:

Sorry for facebook but I couldn't find another source.

That's insane.

Aceonfire
11-06-2014, 01:41 PM
That kid is filthy. Not sure how quality youth developmental hockey is in Japan. Hopefully he can find chance to test his skills against higher tiered leagues and develop into the best player he can be.

He looks the same size as Gaudreau. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Lars The GOAT Eller
11-06-2014, 01:45 PM
This has an 50% chance of getting infracted, but aren't Japanese known for growing up to a height of like 5'6 or 5'7 or something...that alone kills his chances in the NHL :laugh:


edit: its not even a stereotype like I thought, i looked it up and average height for male japanese: 5'731

well that is just the average, and it's not as if players that height haven't made it before.

But yeah that might be a problem.

Beef Invictus
11-06-2014, 01:45 PM
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=600400746753459

Found this aswell :laugh:

Sorry for facebook but I couldn't find another source.

Are you kidding me??

BackhandToeyJoey
11-06-2014, 01:58 PM
That kid's backhand toey is filthy for his age, and I'm not just saying that lol Hopefully he, like others have said, has a chance to play against some other high caliber kids around his age group.

Ice Cream Man
11-06-2014, 02:22 PM
Here's Johnny Gaudreau at a 2003 tournament at West Edmonton Mall. Definitely a cool find.

Oe3a1SVGbic#t

Master Radishes
11-06-2014, 02:32 PM
I hope there's an english word that rhymes with Aito or Iguchi by the 2020s :/
Lose the fight-o for Aito?
Screw the poochie for Iguchi?

GlobeHockey
11-06-2014, 02:35 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10252042_350516791791408_6683153505276248342_n.jpg ?oh=3212538bea46452ac10423dcd559201e&oe=54EDD0B0&__gda__=1423260168_fedbf1d5a8b68ced4401b4073edfac3 a

Looks like his popularity has spread quite a bit on twitter. . . :nod:

:laugh:

Scarecrow Boat
11-06-2014, 02:36 PM
Screw the poochie for Iguchi?

I now hope the kid is #1 worthy just to hear that on TV.

Erikfromfin
11-06-2014, 02:56 PM
This is fantastic! Asian superstar would be best thing for hockey globalization aka hockeys "Yao Ming". Would explode the masses interest.

TopJet
11-06-2014, 02:59 PM
I hope there's an english word that rhymes with Aito or Iguchi by the 2020s :/

greato aito

nanzenkills
11-06-2014, 03:02 PM
This has an 50% chance of getting infracted, but aren't Japanese known for growing up to a height of like 5'6 or 5'7 or something...that alone kills his chances in the NHL :laugh:


edit: its not even a stereotype like I thought, i looked it up and average height for male japanese: 5'731

Paul Kariya was Japanese, and short, and he did just fine until Suter cheap-shotted him.

ottawa
11-06-2014, 03:03 PM
Paul Kariya was Japanese, and short, and he did just fine until Suter cheap-shotted him.

He was also 5'11, if this kid hits 5'11 then all the power to him

Scarecrow Boat
11-06-2014, 03:04 PM
Paul Kariya was Japanese, and short, and he did just fine until Suter cheap-shotted him.

Paul Kariya is just as Scottish as he is Japanese :laugh:

nanzenkills
11-06-2014, 03:12 PM
He was also 5'11, if this kid hits 5'11 then all the power to him

If this kid comes over, I think there's a good chance he'll hit 5'10" or 5'11". Western diet definitely seems to make a difference for Asian people.

Paul Kariya is just as Scottish as he is Japanese :laugh:

Fair point.

Moskau
11-06-2014, 03:59 PM
If this kid comes over, I think there's a good chance he'll hit 5'10" or 5'11". Western diet definitely seems to make a difference for Asian people.
http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/332/3327979/2514618-8114339989-43433.jpg

Vasilevskiy
11-06-2014, 04:14 PM
Good player but the bad level of his competition is going to stop his developement

nanzenkills
11-06-2014, 05:42 PM
http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/332/3327979/2514618-8114339989-43433.jpg

I'm Asian, my dad is 5'7" and raised in Asia, my brother and I are both 5'11" and raised in the US. All of my cousins raised in the US are taller than all of my cousins raised in Asia. Obviously, there are other factors, but I think there's something to Western diets vs. Asian diets, especially with all the growth hormone in American meat nowadays.

Garyboy
11-06-2014, 06:07 PM
Good player but the bad level of his competition is going to stop his developement

The Toronto Marlboros Minor Peewee's should try and bring him over as the ultimate import.

Passchendaele
11-06-2014, 07:09 PM
Kieran Brown is still playing u16 for the 3rd straight season at 13 and is still dominating his older peers.

http://bradfordbulldogs.co.uk/stats/u16/

(click on Player stats)

FrozenJagrt
11-06-2014, 07:25 PM
... Seriously? It took this long for someone to point out that kid is Taro Tsujimoto incarnate?

Scarecrow Boat
11-06-2014, 08:02 PM
Kieran Brown is still playing u16 for the 3rd straight season at 13 and is still dominating his older peers.

http://bradfordbulldogs.co.uk/stats/u16/

(click on Player stats)

Those are stats from last year (incomplete as hell)

So far his U16 team is 3-0 (34GF, 1GA) & his U14 team is 2-0 (26GF, 3GA). No individual stats known yet

syz
11-06-2014, 11:51 PM
greato aito

Pronounced eye-toe.

glassbangers
11-07-2014, 03:43 AM
Those are stats from last year (incomplete as hell)

So far his U16 team is 3-0 (34GF, 1GA) & his U14 team is 2-0 (26GF, 3GA). No individual stats known yet

He has played one game in U16 and one game in U14 league.

In the U14 league he has scored 6+2=8 and in U16 league 0+5=5.

WildcatMapleLeafs28
11-07-2014, 05:26 AM
I've seen a lot of threads of "next ones" but this kid is amazing.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/11-year-old-japanese-boy-could-be-next-hockey-prodigy/ar-BBdlr5U

Reddawg
11-07-2014, 05:29 AM
Kieran Brown is still playing u16 for the 3rd straight season at 13 and is still dominating his older peers.

http://bradfordbulldogs.co.uk/stats/u16/

(click on Player stats)

Hockey is way easier when your opponents do nothing but try to kick the puck.

Tomas W
11-07-2014, 05:32 AM
Great hands. If he gets to develop in an competive enviroment (Russia, Europe or NA) he could become something.

NWAvs
11-07-2014, 05:58 AM
That's great. Hope he turns out

SomeSortOfHockey
11-07-2014, 08:46 AM
Paul Kariya was Japanese, and short, and he did just fine until Suter cheap-shotted him.

Paul Kariya was not Japanese. He had half Japanese heritage. There is a mountain of a difference.

aef1400
11-07-2014, 09:42 AM
The real question is can he live up to the career of the first Japanese phenom, Taro Tsujimoto?

Trap Jesus
11-07-2014, 10:00 AM
I usually think nothing of those videos because it's usually just a bunch of kids doing some nice dangles, which doesn't really translate to any type of success in the future, but that Aito kid demonstrated vision/passing/hockey sense that is just rare for that age even just in that little highlight video, so I have hopes that he'll be able to do something in the future. All depends on how he grows though.

Scarecrow Boat
11-07-2014, 10:43 AM
He has played one game in U16 and one game in U14 league.

In the U14 league he has scored 6+2=8 and in U16 league 0+5=5.

Ye those stats are still inaccurate & incomplete.

last I saw was:
U14 2GP 11G 8A 19PTS
U16 1GP 0G 5A 5PTS

and those are still missing games because the stat system is just as dysfunctional as the hockey league there.

R S
11-07-2014, 11:29 AM
This thread is hilarious.

Propane Nightmares
11-13-2014, 07:09 PM
ye those stats are still inaccurate & incomplete.

Last i saw was:
U14 2gp 11g 8a 19pts
u16 1gp 0g 5a 5pts

and those are still missing games because the stat system is just as dysfunctional as the hockey league there.

u14: 3gp 18g 16a 34pts
u16: 4gp 3g 8a 11pts

calder candidate
11-13-2014, 09:25 PM
I've seen a lot of threads of "next ones" but this kid is amazing.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/11-year-old-japanese-boy-could-be-next-hockey-prodigy/ar-BBdlr5U

Ya I think this is the most impressive highlight reel I have seen... Skate with is head up, seem to hover on the ice, great hands even set up play for other player clearly which is good for a player is age since he could just go around everyone on the ice twice and score every time he touches the puck.

orange is better
11-13-2014, 09:34 PM
This thread needs more M.E-P

Signature
11-14-2014, 02:13 AM
This isn't a History of Hockey thread... in fact it's the exact opposite. :laugh:

I haven't read through the entire thread but I was wondering people's thoughts on who the next prodigy on defense would be? Bobby Orr being one... who qualifies as a young defender to pay attention to, that isn't simply a sleeper prospect who would eventually develop into a top blueliner?

Stive Morgan
11-14-2014, 03:00 AM
That Aito Iguchi looks pretty good but he's no Dustin Rose.

EXTRAS
11-14-2014, 03:47 AM
Japanese kid looks like a young Jagr. Great agility and puck control.

North Country
11-14-2014, 08:23 AM
They need to make the move over here to develop from good competition.

R S
11-14-2014, 01:22 PM
Japanese kid looks like a young Jagr. Great agility and puck control.

Lol.

Scarecrow Boat
11-14-2014, 01:30 PM
Lol.

Some of the posts are silly but aren't you a WHL guy? Where kids are drafted based on their season as a 14 year old :laugh: TBH when I think about that, it might be more ridiculous than people admiring a youtube video.

Bankerguy
11-14-2014, 02:43 PM
I'm going to Japan next year.... i'll check out that Aito kid ^ . ^

Scarecrow Boat
11-14-2014, 02:54 PM
I'm going to Japan next year.... i'll check out that Aito kid ^ . ^

Just walk in to the country and say you're looking for Mr. Iguchi and I'm sure you'll be taken directly to him.

Our Lady Peace
11-15-2014, 02:15 AM
Screw the poochie for Iguchi?

I'm crying. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

MilanKraft
11-15-2014, 07:57 AM
This has an 50% chance of getting infracted, but aren't Japanese known for growing up to a height of like 5'6 or 5'7 or something...that alone kills his chances in the NHL :laugh:


edit: its not even a stereotype like I thought, i looked it up and average height for male japanese: 5'731

Average Chinese are short too but go look at their basketball team....

Average white person is short too....

Hockey players are shrimps for the most part so no big deal here...

SidGenoMario
11-15-2014, 09:59 AM
Anyone know what happened to Dustin Rose?

SalVitro
11-15-2014, 11:48 AM
The kid from Japan should commit to BU for 2021

flamesfan8
11-15-2014, 02:39 PM
Oliver Wahlstrom. Youngest player ever to commit to collage hockey ( Maine at age 13 ) and he has an amazing shootout goal that was on NHL.com for a while.

nanzenkills
11-15-2014, 02:59 PM
Oliver Wahlstrom. Youngest player ever to commit to collage hockey ( Maine at age 13 ) and he has an amazing shootout goal that was on NHL.com for a while.

Where is Wahlstrom playing this year? SSM?

flamesfan8
11-15-2014, 03:19 PM
Where is Wahlstrom playing this year? SSM?


Yup. Last year he played for North Yarmouth Academy whatever that is :laugh:

Brainiac
11-15-2014, 03:28 PM
Average Chinese are short too but go look at their basketball team....

Average white person is short too....

Hockey players are shrimps for the most part so no big deal here...

Northern chinese are usually much taller and people in the south smaller.

Well, that's what a chinese co-worker once told me. Guy was from the North and he was indeed very tall.

BostonFrank89
11-15-2014, 03:42 PM
Yup. Last year he played for North Yarmouth Academy whatever that is :laugh:

Its a school in Yarmouth, Maine. He was actually playing with the varsity team. 13 years old playing against kids usually between 16-18. Not bad.

PRicci09
11-15-2014, 11:59 PM
I remember a tv special on Russian hockey a couple years back, and they feature a kid named Zhenya Kuznetsov who was tearing up his league at age 12.

Hockey nomad goes to Russia? that was Evgeny Kuznetsov of the Caps.

Propane Nightmares
11-16-2014, 07:13 AM
Hockey players are shrimps for the most part so no big deal here...

What...

Sure they're not as big as basketball players but the average height of NHL players is way taller than the average height of the population

heusy_79
11-16-2014, 10:13 AM
Average Chinese are short too but go look at their basketball team....

Average white person is short too....

Hockey players are shrimps for the most part so no big deal here...

Shrimps....at an average of 6'1 and over 200 lbs?

Fonzieleaf
11-16-2014, 06:30 PM
Oliver Wahlstrom is apparently looking good so far for SSM. In 20 games he has 27 goals and 20 assists for 47 points. The only one ahead of him is TJ Walsh who apparently played with Jake Wise on his line last year. Only one point ahead however.

http://ssmhockey.org/2009-2010-boys-bantam-tier-i-stats/

Signature
11-16-2014, 07:57 PM
Shrimps....at an average of 6'1 and over 200 lbs?

In terms of measuring against the other top major sports in North America, yeah.

Basketball players are much taller - I think the average height's like 6'6".
Football players are around 6'3"-6'6" on average and anywhere from 220-350lbs.
Baseball players are probably the closest in size to hockey players.

5cheifele5
11-17-2014, 12:21 AM
We need a thread for all child protogies as there's going to be 100 next Gretzkys, Crosbys, Lemieuxs, etc. Once they get drafted to a junior team or commit somewhere I say then we can make a thread.

Cameltoe
11-17-2014, 12:44 AM
I grew up playing with a "child prodigy". He ended up as a ppg player in major junior and never played higher than echl. It takes a lot of hard work to live up to those expectations.

Scarecrow Boat
11-19-2014, 05:32 PM
Aito Iguchi Part 2
K13ZJbqDRHs

buttman
11-19-2014, 05:54 PM
Jayce Hawryluk?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-7-gxXfK34

Kid is playing against house league players. Put him in a AAA league in the GTA and see how he does.

buttman
11-19-2014, 05:58 PM
Aito Iguchi Part 2
K13ZJbqDRHs

This kid is good.

buttman
11-19-2014, 06:01 PM
Anyone know what happened to Dustin Rose?

Dustin the Wind

The Timbits
11-19-2014, 06:29 PM
Aito Iguchi Part 2
K13ZJbqDRHs

Dang he's really good. Hope he succeeds at higher levels (maybe even move out west to Europe or NA to improve some more). Can't deny that I'd like to see an Asian hockey star one day.

GlobeHockey
11-19-2014, 06:42 PM
Aito Iguchi Part 2
K13ZJbqDRHs

Special talent. Wonder where he'll end up.

Bankerguy
11-19-2014, 07:01 PM
Check out the scoring summary for the game between the Japanese team and the Ottawa team.

...hint.... Aito Iguchi scored ...a lot

http://bell_capital_cup.stats.pointstreak.com/players-boxscore.html?gameid=2359330

MetalMind
11-19-2014, 07:08 PM
Check out the scoring summary for the game between the Japanese team and the Ottawa team.

...hint.... Aito Iguchi scored ...a lot

http://bell_capital_cup.stats.pointstreak.com/players-boxscore.html?gameid=2359330

Nevermind Aito Iguchi's 8 points. There was a kid on Ottawa's team named Justin Wrigglesworth. That is the best name ever.

CanadienShark
11-19-2014, 07:14 PM
u14: 3gp 18g 16a 34pts
u16: 4gp 3g 8a 11pts

:amazed:

What's a standard 1st liner's production in a league like that?

CanadienShark
11-19-2014, 07:24 PM
Honest question, has anyone seen a kid that age, with that kind of talent before?

hockey38
11-19-2014, 07:30 PM
Check out the scoring summary for the game between the Japanese team and the Ottawa team.

...hint.... Aito Iguchi scored ...a lot

http://bell_capital_cup.stats.pointstreak.com/players-boxscore.html?gameid=2359330

For the record, the teams Iguchi was playing were low level teams

Toronto Titans and Marlies, the cream of the crop for the 2003 age group, have kids way more talented.

Maybe not as flashy but definitely more talented.

Bubbles
11-19-2014, 08:19 PM
Leg kicks and toe drags at nine years old...early favourite for the 2023 Draft?

SalVitro
11-19-2014, 08:43 PM
Honest question, has anyone seen a kid that age, with that kind of talent before?Johnny Gaudreau - 2003 - Brick Invitational Hocke…: http://youtu.be/Oe3a1SVGbic

FDBluth
11-19-2014, 08:54 PM
Nevermind Aito Iguchi's 8 points. There was a kid on Ottawa's team named Justin Wrigglesworth. That is the best name ever.
That's the kind of name that comes around once in a generation.

CanadienShark
11-19-2014, 09:01 PM
Johnny Gaudreau - 2003 - Brick Invitational Hocke…: http://youtu.be/Oe3a1SVGbic

Seen that before. Certainly impressive, but I'm more wowed by the 11 year old from Japan still.

Tarasenko
11-19-2014, 09:12 PM
Xavier Parent, anyone?
Saw the guy last year, he was ripping it off in PeeWee AAA.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=241379

waitin425
11-19-2014, 09:17 PM
Aito Iguchi Part 2
K13ZJbqDRHs

Please bump this thread yet again in 7 years......while this kid has sick hands and skates like a figure skater, I would love to see him against some real talent......those opponents were pathetic. Anyone who has watched AAA hockey for that age group knows that. I'm impressed but only based on the hands and the fact that he comes from a non hockey market.....he wouldn't look that impressive in the gthl

Scarecrow Boat
11-19-2014, 09:19 PM
lol every time this thread gets bumped, people mention the same kids who were mentioned before.

:amazed:

What's a standard 1st liner's production in a league like that?

When you put his numbers beside the top players that have gone through the system over the years, he's at the top comfortably.

Patmac40
11-19-2014, 09:21 PM
Xavier Parent, anyone?
Saw the guy last year, he was ripping it off in PeeWee AAA.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=241379

24 points in 15 games this year so far.
http://www.lheq.ca/fr/stats/dossier_equipe.html?season=6&subSeason=1&category=5043&team=27411

81
11-19-2014, 10:01 PM
Kid is playing against house league players. Put him in a AAA league in the GTA and see how he does.

Lol that kid got drafted 32nd overall in the NHL so **** a AAA league in the GTA hows the WHL sound?

Tarasenko
11-20-2014, 09:03 AM
24 points in 15 games this year so far.
http://www.lheq.ca/fr/stats/dossier_equipe.html?season=6&subSeason=1&category=5043&team=27411

Could become a highly skilled power forward by looking at his penalty minutes :laugh:

I grew up playing with a "child prodigy". He ended up as a ppg player in major junior and never played higher than echl. It takes a lot of hard work to live up to those expectations.

Who was it?

Kid is playing against house league players. Put him in a AAA league in the GTA and see how he does.

The dude is actually drafted by Florida Panthers (2nd round) and is currently doing over 1 PPG in the WHL :help:

JFG
11-20-2014, 12:07 PM
This kid is good.

Damn... His street hockey moves were sick.

Ralonzo
11-20-2014, 11:29 PM
Hockey nomad goes to Russia? that was Evgeny Kuznetsov of the Caps.

Yes, Zhenya is familiar of Evgeny in Russian. Like Dick is familiar of Richard in English.

GFF
11-21-2014, 04:34 AM
:amazed:

What's a standard 1st liner's production in a league like that?

Well, here are some top British Elite League players (Great Britain First/Second Liners) and their stats at the same age:

Robert Dowd (2001-02)
U14: 12gp 18g 11a 29p
U16: 11gp 5g 5a 10p

Robert Farmer (2004-05)
U14: 18gp 72g 52a 124p
U16: 15gp 13a 19a 32p

Robert Lachowicz (2003-04)
U14: 14gp 48g 31a 79p
U16: 13gp 15g 13a 28p

Current Top GB Prospect, playing in Sweden J18/20 Elit

Samuel Duggan (2011-12)
U14: 17gp 52g 46a 98p
U16: 16gp 17g 10a 27p

Ivan Antonov (2010-11) currently putting up 1ppg in GB 2nd tier as a 17yr old.
U14: 17gp 23g 33a 56p
U16: 12gp 5g 8a 13p

Brett Perlini (2003-04) (Anaheim draft pick)
U14: 18gp 54g 43a 97p
U16: 12gp 15g 14a 29p

So just to compare him to those:

Kieran Brown (2014-15) Pro-rated for 18 U14 games and 12 U16 games...
U14: 18gp 108g 96a 204p
U16: 12gp 9g 24a 33p

Brendan Perlini (Arizona first rounder) 2006-07 (only comparison is at age 10)
U12: 17gp 50g 39a 89p
U14: 16gp 3g 7a 10p

Kieran Brown age 10 (2011-12):
U12: 16gp 124g 6a 130p
U14: 15gp 22g 11 a 33p