My Leafs hate is fading....

With Sundin and Tucker gone now and Domi, Belfour, and Quinn long gone; a lot of the people I associated with the Sens woes in the earlier Battle of Ontario are just a memory. Now with the Leafs rebuilding and being constant underdogs, I don't feel the same hate and I certainly don't enjoy cheering against them anymore.

Anyone else?

Bigtime, its now focused on Montreal.

It's more the fans than the team though. You're NOT a European Soccer team.

You're NOT a European Soccer team.

OMG yes. This is exactly my thoughts. Their chant is so weak, it verges on hilarity.

OMG yes. This is exactly my thoughts. Their chant is so weak, it verges on hilarity.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

VERY well put.

Could not have put it better.

Yeah, I would agree too.

Although my hate for some Leaf fans will never fade.

haha yeah i can see why the hate would fade....its kinda like kicking a wounded puppy

My hate for the leafs has been dropping consistently over the years as we have seen the departures of quinn, green, roberts, domi, tucker, sundin and mccabe. I really don't care about them at all anymore. My blood used to boil just thinking about the leafs, but now I dont care. We need a playoff series against the habs before I have any hate towards them.

My hate for the leafs has been dropping consistently over the years as we have seen the departures of quinn, green, roberts, domi, tucker, sundin and mccabe. I really don't care about them at all anymore. My blood used to boil just thinking about the leafs, but now I dont care. We need a playoff series against the habs before I have any hate towards them.

May happen this year. I'm not looking forward to the complete steamrolling we would suffer in a series with them....

my leafs hate has increased, seeing as tucker and belfour were two of the only players i liked (both from playing styles and contributions before arriving in toronto). Oh, and gary roberts too.

Not in the slightest. Every year a thread like this pops up, like people are too good to kick a dog when he's down. I'll kick em, I don't care.

I still look forward to the games, but they are not as entertaining as they used to be.

I hate the leafs more than anything else in the world. Way more than poverty.

I would rather see the cup in Nashville and Atlanta forever than have it go there. I want us to beat them by huge margins every game this year.

I hate the leafs so much that I want them to miss the playoffs by two points every year, so they never improve.

Man I hate them.

Hate.

With Sundin and Tucker gone now and Domi, Belfour, and Quinn long gone; a lot of the people I associated with the Sens woes in the earlier Battle of Ontario are just a memory. Now with the Leafs rebuilding and being constant underdogs, I don't feel the same hate and I certainly don't enjoy cheering against them anymore.

Anyone else?

The Leafs took your mother out for a nice lobster dinner, then NEVER called her again.



Enjoy your hate ;)

The Leafs took your mother out for a nice lobster dinner, then NEVER called her again.



Enjoy your hate ;)

Dorothy Mantooth is a saint!

I don't hate them.. but i do wish that they continue making stupid moves and keep just competitive enough to miss the playoffs. My guilty pleasure.

Maybe it's just cause we haven't played them yet this season? I am sure the hate will come back on Saturday...especially if we end up losing to them.

Maybe it's just cause we haven't played them yet this season? I am sure the hate will come back on Saturday...especially if we end up losing to them.

Yeah, definitely. I don't think about hating them as much as I used to - or as much as I hate the Habs. But I'm sure when we play them, it'll come back. I have to mute their stupid goal foghorn when I play them on NHL 09 and they score. Bad memories.

I hate the Leafs wether they suck or not. Screw them.

haha yeah i can see why the hate would fade....its kinda like kicking a wounded puppy

Except that puppies are cute and lovable. More like a wounded cockroach.

I guess cause I live in Toronto I've grown apathetic towards the Leafs, but even with the frustration of losing each playoff round to them, I still enjoyed that our biggest rival was also the NHLs biggest team, and we were theirs.

For the most part I really just hated their players at the time, and not even too many. Mostly Tucker, Corson, and Domi.

I'm hoping Toronto gets competitive soon enough so we can go back to having an intense rivalry.

Ah, Leafs[sic] fans. It's not that I hate them.

It's just that their tears are so yummy and sweet :nod:

I will never stop hating the leafs, the fact they are trying to fail on purpose makes me laugh even harder.

**** the leafs
**** their fans
**** toronto

Meh the leafs are gonna be a fun team to watch in a couple years assuming they draft well and put the right people in place. I actually watched a couple of their games this year and given the lack of talent they have, they really grind it out and give it their all and thats always more entertaining that haveing two 6.5 mil stars float around.

Yup. Still have a hatred for the Leafs. Even though they suck at just about everything in life right now, I still hate them, and I will continue to hate them until someone drops me 6 feet into the ground.

It's been said before, and it will be said again, but, the fact that they have a spelling error in their name speaks volumes to the ineptitude of the organization as a whole. **** rolls downhill folks, and the team name is right at the top of that hill.

As for the Habs, I don't have a huge hate on for the team itself. I dislike the team, but I don't hate them. I can't stand the fans. I have more negative feelings and views towards the Habs fans than I do towards the Leafs, and that is saying something.

As for the Habs, I don't have a huge hate on for the team itself. I dislike the team, but I don't hate them. I can't stand the fans. I have more negative feelings and views towards the Habs fans than I do towards the Leafs, and that is saying something.

Yeah

**** the habs
**** their fans
**** Montreal

too

Hate them.

Remember what they did to Alfie, guys.


Hate the Montreal fans more than anything though.

Hate them.

Remember what they did to Alfie, guys.


Hate the Montreal fans more than anything though.

That was just Mark Bell, who is a moron.

BTW, thanks for the PM earlier.

haha yeah i can see why the hate would fade....its kinda like kicking a wounded puppy

haha I lol'd.
Yeah I still hate the leafs with a passion, and their fans are *******s, but it does seem that habs fans have become more of a pain in the ass. Pouring beer on Mike Richards is just low, and the chant is so unoriginal and stupid, it just pisses me off.

My dislike of the Leafs on-ice team was generally premised on several of the players (Tucker, Corson, Domi, McCabe, Belak, Green), and Pat Quinn. I have no real love for Ron Wilson, but I find any team that's building through youth to be in some way kind of compelling. I'm sure the fans will find some way to make me dislike the team as the season progresses, but I find myself kind of curious to see how the likes of Stajan, Steen, Kulemin, Tlusty, and Grabovski will develop this year.

That said, I continue to resent that I have to buy the timeshifting option from Shaw just to be able to watch the Ottawa-based HNIC game on Saturdays. The absurd grip that the Leaf franchise has on the NHL schedule is reason enough to dislike the team. If they manage to stave off the increasingly strong pressure to have a second team in the GTA it will only further my contempt for the franchise.

Yup. Still have a hatred for the Leafs. Even though they suck at just about everything in life right now, I still hate them, and I will continue to hate them until someone drops me 6 feet into the ground.

It's been said before, and it will be said again, but, the fact that they have a spelling error in their name speaks volumes to the ineptitude of the organization as a whole. **** rolls downhill folks, and the team name is right at the top of that hill.

As for the Habs, I don't have a huge hate on for the team itself. I dislike the team, but I don't hate them. I can't stand the fans. I have more negative feelings and views towards the Habs fans than I do towards the Leafs, and that is saying something.

Same. Actually, i don't even dislike the team. I prefer when they don't win but i could care less. But their fans' attitude (their arrogance, cockyness, superior behavior,... is worse than everything i saw in my life) makes me want them to lose.

just like the players dont play for the name on the back of the jersey but the logo on the front, i hate the leafs organization and everything they stand for...

its just a new cast of villains... same leaf hate

Not in the slightest. Every year a thread like this pops up, like people are too good to kick a dog when he's down. I'll kick em, I don't care.

YES!!!! LOVE IT......i still hate em just as much as always.....and the CBC for playing them so much! (the cure for cancer could be found and the CBC wouldnt dare break away from a leaf game).....i hate the leafs, but also now hate the ducks!!!!...their style of play makes me scream....the way getzlaf has his little smirk....and did anyone ever tell them "i before e, except after c"??? (anaheim).....montreal fans are all the same (and always will be)....i have a strong dislike for them(not hate).....im pretty sure i also HATE the penguins! and CINDY crosby........

Buffalo....cant ****ing stand them. The Leafs are way behind...and the Habs arent even on their. I hate the fans, as does everyone else in the world, but the team isnt good enough, dirty enough, tough enough, or (recently) succesful enough to hate.

I want to still hate the Leafs with the same intensity as years past. I really do. I still tell my students if they're Leaf fans they fail the year.

But....well, it's hard to care when Toronto is struggling so badly. If the Leafs win against the Sens I'm more surprised than angry. I don't think the rivalry will go back to pre-lockout intensity until the Leafs make the playoffs again....

....so, in 2020 or so.... hehehe! Okay I enjoyed that. Maybe there's hope for my Leaf hatred after all.

I never really hated them that much in the first place. I hated the Sens for being so weak and feeble in terms of toughness and goaltending compared to them for a 4/5 year span.

Hate.

I have hated, and will continue to hate the LAFS.

Like I've said before. If the Leafs played Iraq, I would cheer for Iraq........

I still hate them as more then ever, since I live in enemy territory. :laugh:

A lot of the Leaf hate also arose because of the obnoxious leaf fans that for example, would show up at Scotia bank place for the season opener in their leaf sweater telling all the passing fans to kiss the jersey, or the ones that would come to our games and boo alfie, or the ones that would endlessly offer their unwanted opinions on our messageboards.

It has been kind of nice the last few years that way. I hardly ever seem to run across leaf fans anymore. They keep quiet and to themselves now i guess, seemingly humbled a bit.

One thing that is rather funny i thought, is seeing all the leaf fans so excited about having a team thats "Young and Improving." :) Hopefully they try and tank the draft for Tavares like we did for Daigle, cause Karma always bites.

I still enjoy seeing the laffs and their fans suffer. Its a differnt kind of hate i guess than it used to be, but its still hate. Its just that the habs are now poised to make that hatred of mine a two-headed monster as their fans finally arise from a long slumber and start to take over the lead in obnoxiousness from the dying leaf fans.

A lot of the Leaf hate also arose because of the obnoxious leaf fans that for example, would show up at Scotia bank place for the season opener in their leaf sweater telling all the passing fans to kiss the jersey, or the ones that would come to our games and boo alfie, or the ones that would endlessly offer their unwanted opinions on our messageboards.


This is the one thing that still infuriates me. I have let a lot of my Leaf hatred go, but this just boils my blood. Also that the Leaf faithful booed Alfie when he got up after the Bell hit. I would never do that for Sundin.

Last year at a Sens-Pens game, there was a group of the Leaf-nation sitting not far from me in the 300s, all dressed up in Leafs colours and booing the Sens. Every Sens penalty, every Penguins goal, they would chant "Go Leafs Go" repeatedly. Pathetic.

Generally, most Leaf fans I know are just like other hockey fans. Fans are fans - they come in all sorts. I'm intrigued by the new Leaf team - the players I hated are gone and I don't hate them anymore. But my God, some people . . .

Montreal? The only rivalry I see is between fans. It's recent and I don't really get it. I'll never hate the Canadiens. Our on-ice rivals these days are Buffalo and Pittsburgh.

I prefer it when the Leafs are out of the playoff race as early as possible. Then they wouldn't hog the media attention and all of the choice slots on CBC.

The players and coaches have changed, so that hatred has faded. I actually like the direction they're going in (as in, finally rebuilding). I still hate the media focus they get though, and as long as that is there I will hate the Leafs.

Yeah

**** the habs
**** their fans
**** Montreal

too

Does the city of Ottawa (specifically, Kanata) satisfy all of your longings?

i agree. i don't like the leafs, but i don't have that teeth-grinding ire for them that i used to. they don't have the players i hate anymore. different division, yes, but i really loathe the penguins. especially after the playoffs last year. they take the cake for me.

Yes it was Mark Bell who cheap shotted Alfie but it was Leaf fans who booed when he was able to get on his skates and get off the ice.

Also it is Leaf fans who boo Alfie and bad mouth the Sens at every opportunity-not all Leaf fans but many of them.

And it is the Leafs that are still the beloved of HNIC and who take up three quarters of air time on all the Toronto centric national sports media.

Because of all that and the Sens hating Leaf fans who are on OTR and other
Toronto centric Canadian Sports media,spouting ignorant nonsense about the Sens,
I can say, like Alfie,I don't hate the Leafs,but I dislike them.

I don't know where all the Hab hate came from around here all of a sudden, there are some obnoxious Habs fans but some pretty good ones too, on here anyway. I certainly don't hate the Habs, but if we have a playoff series, that could change.

I hate both the Leafs and the Habs. I like some Habs players though... but I still hate them.

Totally feeling this! The Leafs aren't the same team that knocked us around in the playoffs. They seem to lack a bit of character nowadays, and have to find their true leaders. I thought Stajan would be that guy, but he seems to be having a down year, and I saw Wilson benched him for a game.

The Habs are now the most annoying team in the league, bar none. The stupid OLE OLE OLE chants they stole from European soccer is just so lame. Plus before the Habs, the Canucks did it too. Lapierre is a weasel, and Komisarek is so overrated cause he plays with Markov. Komi is a very good player, but it's like he's gunna win the Norris or something.

Leafs fan here:

The same thing happened for me with the Habs from 98-04 when the leafs were a winning team and the Habs weren't qualifying for the post season. Obviously the hate shifted toward the Sens and Devils especially. :D

Now again we're the laughing stock of the league with an extremely long road ahead of us if all things go well. Hopefully one day we can get the rivalry back again. I actually enjoyed the Leafs-Sens matches much more then Leafs-Habs.

My hate for the Habs has come back once again, that chant is truly annoying.

A lot of the Leaf hate also arose because of the obnoxious leaf fans that for example, would show up at Scotia bank place for the season opener in their leaf sweater telling all the passing fans to kiss the jersey, or the ones that would come to our games and boo alfie, or the ones that would endlessly offer their unwanted opinions on our messageboards.

It has been kind of nice the last few years that way. I hardly ever seem to run across leaf fans anymore. They keep quiet and to themselves now i guess, seemingly humbled a bit.

One thing that is rather funny i thought, is seeing all the leaf fans so excited about having a team thats "Young and Improving." :) Hopefully they try and tank the draft for Tavares like we did for Daigle, cause Karma always bites.

I still enjoy seeing the laffs and their fans suffer. Its a differnt kind of hate i guess than it used to be, but its still hate. Its just that the habs are now poised to make that hatred of mine a two-headed monster as their fans finally arise from a long slumber and start to take over the lead in obnoxiousness from the dying leaf fans.

I'm a leaf fan and it's embarassing seeing Leaf fans in the stands doing the things they do. We know they suck but the fans in the stands are delusioned morons.

I tend to find it hard to take the Canadiens/Senators rivalry seriously.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=zp8E2YXAYeI

Between the teams, the Battle of Ontario is far more intense even if the Leafs are terrible right now.

My hate for the Habs runs deep, very deep. It goes beyond hockey actually and into culture.

The thing is, with the Leafs (and the Habs a little bit also), I don't hate the team anymore. I'm a àctually a fan of Dominic Moore.

As for the fans, media, etc, I'm not exposed to them, being in Gatineau.

I'm a leaf fan and it's embarassing seeing Leaf fans in the stands doing the things they do. We know they suck but the fans in the stands are delusioned morons.

I don't think I would have the "you know whats" to go into another teams building and act like that. Over the last 5-6 years I have gone down to the Joe and wouldn't dare put on my leafs jersey and tell off the wings fans. Not if I wanted to leave in one piece anyways. :D

I tend to find it hard to take the Canadiens/Senators rivalry seriously.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=zp8E2YXAYeI

Between the teams, the Battle of Ontario is far more intense even if the Leafs are terrible right now.

Agreed. Unfortunately all we can hope for now is to not get bombarded 8-1 or 7-1 which became a regular occurrence under Maurice/Fergy's watch.

:cry:

I will always hate them no matter what. :nod:

I will enjoy watching them lose this season mouahahahahha !!


:teach:

My hate for the Habs runs deep, very deep. It goes beyond hockey actually and into culture.

The thing is, with the Leafs (and the Habs a little bit also), I don't hate the team anymore. I'm a àctually a fan of Dominic Moore.

As for the fans, media, etc, I'm not exposed to them, being in Gatineau.

That's always been a strange thing to me: Sens fans hate the Habs and their fans. While Habs fans are pretty indifferent toward the Sens, frankly.

That's always been a strange thing to me: Sens fans hate the Habs and their fans. While Habs fans are pretty indifferent toward the Sens, frankly.

:laugh: ever been to the habs board they hate us. They think we are arrogant, sarcastic, young upstarts.

I don't hate the habs, but i do hate their fans.

That's always been a strange thing to me: Sens fans hate the Habs and their fans. While Habs fans are pretty indifferent toward the Sens, frankly.

Frankly, in MTL, I've never met a Canadiens fan who hated the Sens; indifference is truly the best way to describe CH fans reaction to the Sens.

Frankly, in MTL, I've never met a Canadiens fan who hated the Sens; indifference is truly the best way to describe CH fans reaction to the Sens.

Beats me never been to MTL other than to a couple hockey games, and a few clubs. I can tell you on this board the habs fans hate us as much as we hate them, although I bet most of them would take the superior attitude of we don't hate them they aren't good enough to hate attitude.

damn Habs fans

Beats me never been to MTL other than to a couple hockey games, and a few clubs. I can tell you on this board the habs fans hate us as much as we hate them, although I bet most of them would take the superior attitude of we don't hate them they aren't good enough to hate attitude.

damn Habs fans

But the Sens still have a good team...

It might only be a rivalry between HF posters.

But the Sens still have a good team...

It might only be a rivalry between HF posters.

Well yeah, I know lots of habs fans outside HF and they are great guys and passionate fans of hockey.

but this is HF and nothing in real life including how players and teams actually play have any bearing on what goes on in here.

The first rule of HF Club is nothing real matters

Beats me never been to MTL other than to a couple hockey games, and a few clubs. I can tell you on this board the habs fans hate us as much as we hate them, although I bet most of them would take the superior attitude of we don't hate them they aren't good enough to hate attitude.

damn Habs fans
This reminds me of a Simpsons episode:

Moe: [to Lisa] Listen, I don't like you and you don't like me. But we both wanna stop Homer from shooting the turkey.
Lisa: You don't like me? I like you.
Moe: You do? Then I like you, too. Here, have a towelette.

Am I saying Habs fans are like a little girl and Sens fans are like a creepy bartender? Maybe. But the moral of this story is the Sens and their fans haven't done anything to warrant hate from most Habs fans. It might change if we ever meet in the playoffs. For now Habs hate is mostly directed towards the Bruins and their fans.

Not in the slightest. Every year a thread like this pops up, like people are too good to kick a dog when he's down. I'll kick em, I don't care.

I hate the leafs more than anything else in the world. Way more than poverty.

I would rather see the cup in Nashville and Atlanta forever than have it go there. I want us to beat them by huge margins every game this year.

I hate the leafs so much that I want them to miss the playoffs by two points every year, so they never improve.

Man I hate them.

Hate.

Hahaha that's great. It's funny a couple of years ago i feel as if habs/sens fans had a mutual respect for each other since they had a common enemy in the leafs.

Plus their games are always the most offensively intense games. Really high intensity, with both teams alternating scoring chances at good length. Just really fun hockey to watch.

I don't know how sens/habs games were last year.

If only Sens fans hated the Leafs as much as they hate Gerber.

I hear leafs fans eat puppies.

How can you not hate people who eat puppies!

Look I took this picture from the restaurant at the ACC

http://blogs.menupages.com/chicago/eat%20puppies!.jpg

yea my Leafs hate has died down a bit. Before I wanted them to lose always now I want them to win a lot. Confused? You shouldn't be ;)

The better Toronto does, the worse draft pick they will have... I can't see Hedman or Taveras going to an organization like that...

So I wouldn't even mind if they make the playoffs, just so we can own them...

Totally feeling this! The Leafs aren't the same team that knocked us around in the playoffs. They seem to lack a bit of character nowadays, and have to find their true leaders. I thought Stajan would be that guy, but he seems to be having a down year, and I saw Wilson benched him for a game.

The Habs are now the most annoying team in the league, bar none. The stupid OLE OLE OLE chants they stole from European soccer is just so lame. Plus before the Habs, the Canucks did it too. Lapierre is a weasel, and Komisarek is so overrated cause he plays with Markov. Komi is a very good player, but it's like he's gunna win the Norris or something.
if anything they're showing more character than they have at any point since the lockout...

Stajan is now out of the doghouse and centering the top line:laugh:

I hear leafs fans eat puppies.

How can you not hate people who eat puppies!

Look I took this picture from the restaurant at the ACC

http://blogs.menupages.com/chicago/eat%20puppies!.jpg

only a member of a terrible tasteless POS fanbase would post a picture like that:laugh:

(that is a joke, no1 get offended, I have many friends who are sens fans)

yea my Leafs hate has died down a bit. Before I wanted them to lose always now I want them to win a lot. Confused? You shouldn't be ;)

The better Toronto does, the worse draft pick they will have... I can't see Hedman or Taveras going to an organization like that...

So I wouldn't even mind if they make the playoffs, just so we can own them...

we'll see saturday!

should be a good game:yo: