Schaeffer Officially Bought Out

It's official. I hope PC has a master plan.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283342

Providence will never be the same, but good move, and good riddance. It's chump change and Bruins will be fine after dealing Kessel anyways.

Providence will never be the same, but good move, and good riddance. It's chump change and Bruins will be fine after dealing Kessel anyways.

This is good news for Providence. The players don't need a negative influence on the team while they are learning the B's system and playing flat out to win the AHL championship. I imagine the coach is relieved.

So what is the cap hit for Boston?

I can't defend this decision. The only thing this does is save Jeremy Jacobs some cash. With the cap situation as tight as it is I can't reconcile this move in any way.

I can't defend this decision. The only thing this does is save Jeremy Jacobs some cash. With the cap situation as tight as it is I can't reconcile this move in any way.

That's because Schaefer isn't out spending your money. :sarcasm:

I can't defend this decision. The only thing this does is save Jeremy Jacobs some cash. With the cap situation as tight as it is I can't reconcile this move in any way.

relax, im sure one of the other journeymen on the team will be taking his roster spot soon enough!

Really no need for this. So now we've got about 2M in dead cap space. Solid.

Really no need for this. So now we've got about 2M in dead cap space. Solid.

there was really no need to trade shean donovan for him to begin with...at least the guy is going to get a shot. he didnt deserve to be in providence in the first place, he was a victim of the cap.

its not schaefer's fault he was making 2.1 million...blame muckler/murray or whoever signed him to that deal.

there was really no need to trade shean donovan for him to begin with...at least the guy is going to get a shot. he didnt deserve to be in providence in the first place, he was a victim of the cap.

its not schaefer's fault he was making 2.1 million...blame muckler/murray or whoever signed him to that deal.

No but it is his fault that he sucked. He played MAYBE 10 games where he looked like an NHLer with the Bruins, and 4 of them were in the playoffs. He showed no effort and was really just a garbage player.

At his age he should be dominating the A. Scoring 20 points and being scratched regularly is just unacceptable. If any team gives him an NHL contract I'd be surprised.

So like the Murray fiasco, the Schaeffer fiasco has to last one more year then it should have? Awesome.

I guess we see why the B's are squeezing Kessel now....Gotta have the coin to buy off useless Schaeffer...

I'd like to know Rob Murray's reaction to this...

:banana:

Don't understand this. Should've just let him sit in Providence for another year and saved the cap space.

relax, im sure one of the other journeymen on the team will be taking his roster spot soon enough!

I'm not worried at all about his roster spot. I couldn't care less about his roster spot. I care about the buyout number roughly equal to the veteran minimum sitting on the cap for the next two years when the team is in serious cap crunch. This is either Chiarelli being a good guy to Schaeffer and giving him his freedom (which he has not earned) or Jacobs not wanting to spend all that cash to have him sit in the minors. Either way its a horrible move that hurts the Bruins, albeit in a small way.

So PC said earlier that he could re-sign the pending RFAs right now and be under the cap. Any chance the 700k cap hit nullifies that?

Really no need for this. So now we've got about 2M in dead cap space. Solid.

700k for two seasons. We were spoiled last season to have JJ paying Schaefer an NHL salary to play in the AHL.

this season will go miles as to PC's ability to manage a team

with the buyout, 3 RFA's, some weird late picks...

i still have faith - just want to know the plan - cut me in PC;)

Dumb

Brutal. His buyout is going to cost the Bruins $765,900 for two years! Brutal.

Jacobs is going to get killed for this. Deservedly so.

700k for two seasons. We were spoiled last season to have JJ paying Schaefer an NHL salary to play in the AHL.

+the Murray buyout

We imperil our ability to go deep in the playoffs to save 600k across two years. How many millions is each playoff round worth?

Brutal. His buyout is going to cost the Bruins $765,900 for two years! Brutal.

Jacobs is going to get killed for this. Deservedly so.

I only hope Jacobs will get crucified for this decision. The journalists 'round here seem to have become tired of beating that drum, but this decision is completely indefensible.

Jacobs is cheap. It is hurting this team's ability to compete for a Stanley Cup.

Ugh... that's just... well... deflating.

Good news is... we're due for some good news right? ****... wait... was that just the good news? Damnit.

So PC said earlier that he could re-sign the pending RFAs right now and be under the cap. Any chance the 700k cap hit nullifies that?

No because the offer for Kessel is rumored to be $3.05 M; Krejci money less the buyout; but Phil wants to stay here so he's cool with it....good thing for Phil it wasn't Murray's buyout (file this under timing is everything)

Brutal. His buyout is going to cost the Bruins $765,900 for two years! Brutal.

Jacobs is going to get killed for this. Deservedly so.

$566,667 according to Fluto.

This is basically the amount your gonna pay someone to sit in the press box.

I only hope Jacobs will get crucified for this decision. The journalists 'round here seem to have become tired of beating that drum, but this decision is completely indefensible.

Jacobs is cheap. It is hurting this team's ability to compete for a Stanley Cup.

I am glad because I went to about 15 Providence games and now I don't have to watch Schaefer anymore loaf, but the worst was that bizarre thing he did with his side burns (Shield like disturbing to look at)....I'm thinking Don Sweeney begged Chia to do this so he didn't have to see this 80 times a year in Providence.

I don't think this guy showed up for the meet the fans autograph session, the skate with the season ticket holders kids, etc...bleep him, buy out the losers contract, personally I'd rather not watch him and have the Boston Bruins have less to spend; that is how much he iritates me. POS

He did show up at the skate:laugh:

I am glad because I went to about 15 Providence games and now I don't have to watch Schaefer anymore loaf, but the worst was that bizarre thing he did with his side burns (Shield like disturbing to look at)....I'm thinking Don Sweeney begged Chia to do this so he didn't have to see this 80 times a year in Providence.

I don't think this guy showed up for the meet the fans autograph session, the skate with the season ticket holders kids, etc...bleep him, buy out the losers contract, personally I'd rather not watch him and have the Boston Bruins have less to spend; that is how much he iritates me. POS


Well, I'll be sure to remember that when the Bs' go out in the early rounds of the playoffs again. I will say to myself: "Self, that is OK. The Red Sox are still good and Glen Murray and Peter Schaefer are slightly less rich millionaires than they could have been otherwise. I'm sure glad the Bs didn't go out at the trade deadline and import a $5.5M player, as they could've if only they had an extra $1.9M of cap space, or keep Phil Kessel."

I wish John Henry were a hockey fan.

$566,667 according to Fluto.

This is basically the amount your gonna pay someone to sit in the press box.

I wonder where Fluto got that number... Buyouts are for 2/3 the remaining money over twice the term. Schaefer's cap hit is $2.1, but he is actually owed $2.3 for the last year. And $566k isn't 1/3 of either.

And you can keep trying to dismiss the money wasted, but just because the amount is roughly the equivalent of the cost of a guy who would sit in the press box, that doesn't mean that they won't actually have a guy in the press box. Now, the B's just have to pay both.

Well, I'll be sure to remember that when the Bs' go out in the early rounds of the playoffs again. I will say to myself: "Self, that is OK. The Red Sox are still good and Glen Murray and Peter Schaefer are slightly less rich millionaires than they could have been otherwise. I'm sure glad the Bs didn't go out at the trade deadline and import a $5.5M player, as they could've if only they had an extra $1.9M of cap space, or keep Phil Kessel."

I wish John Henry were a hockey fan.

Henry is in France somewhere on his honeymoon, and he's all glitz these days; not sure if he even likes hockey, but if I was him my strategy would have been different; I'd have gone after Kelly Malone instead, cuter, older, and does the Bruins games already.

I can't stand Schaefer so to not look at him, or realize he may have lost money is good to me....I have faith in Chiarelli and believe he'll sign all three, add Recchi, a fourth line center, and the Bruins will win the Cup.

I actually am more worried about the Canadiens being competitive.

So like the Murray fiasco, the Schaeffer fiasco has to last one more year then it should have? Awesome.

I guess we see why the B's are squeezing Kessel now....Gotta have the coin to buy off useless Schaeffer...

How are they squeezing Kessel? They have probably offered him somewhere in the range of 3 to 3.5 million which is very fair. Krejci signed for 3.75 per & is a much better player then Kessel. How could Chia justify paying Kessel more then Krejci.

It would also send a message that you are better off playing hardball with Chia as opposed to signing a fair deal like Krejci did. The Bs are not squeezing Kessel.

How are they squeezing Kessel? They have probably offered him somewhere in the range of 3 to 3.5 million which is very fair. Krejci signed for 3.75 per & is a much better player then Kessel. How could Chia justify paying Kessel more then Krejci.

It would also send a message that you are better off playing hardball with Chia as opposed to signing a fair deal like Krejci did. The Bs are not squeezing Kessel.

Bolland signed for 3.25... Kessel isn't signing for the same amount nor should he. Jesus, if Neil wants upwards of 1.7mill... well....

Bolland signed for 3.25... Kessel isn't signing for the same amount nor should he. Jesus, if Neil wants upwards of 1.7mill... well....

Well Krejci signed for 3.75 and I don't see him as a better player.

I am glad because I went to about 15 Providence games and now I don't have to watch Schaefer anymore loaf, but the worst was that bizarre thing he did with his side burns (Shield like disturbing to look at)....I'm thinking Don Sweeney begged Chia to do this so he didn't have to see this 80 times a year in Providence.

I don't think this guy showed up for the meet the fans autograph session, the skate with the season ticket holders kids, etc...bleep him, buy out the losers contract, personally I'd rather not watch him and have the Boston Bruins have less to spend; that is how much he iritates me. POS

But can't they say ****** him, without f**king us? Waive him and send him home. He doesnt have to go to Providence and be a distraction. Put him in exile. He's gone and forgotten and the B's wouldn't have to suffer.

How are they squeezing Kessel? They have probably offered him somewhere in the range of 3 to 3.5 million which is very fair. Krejci signed for 3.75 per & is a much better player then Kessel. How could Chia justify paying Kessel more then Krejci.

It would also send a message that you are better off playing hardball with Chia as opposed to signing a fair deal like Krejci did. The Bs are not squeezing Kessel.

Who gives a **** ? I mean really, so Krejci signs early and leaves money on the table so everyone else has to bend over too? Dave Freakin Bolland just signed for 3.25 mil and you want Phil to sign for 3-3.5 and that's fair? Good luck.

But can't they say ****** him, without f**king us? Waive him and send him home. He doesnt have to go to Providence and be a distraction. Put him in exile. He's gone and forgotten and the B's wouldn't have to suffer.

Was the ECHL an option?

I understand respecting a guy, but what has Schaefer done to deserve another chance?

Who gives a **** ? I mean really, so Krejci signs early and leaves money on the table so everyone else has to bend over too? Dave Freakin Bolland just signed for 3.25 mil and you want Phil to sign for 3-3.5 and that's fair? Good luck.

right-o better give him thomas vanek money

right-o better give him thomas vanek money

from 3.5 million to 7.5 million... is this thread based in extremes? Where do I go to find reality... I think I'm lost.

from 3.5 million to 7.5 million... is this thread based in extremes? Where do I go to find reality... I think I'm lost.

freak out stage

Bolland signed for 3.25... Kessel isn't signing for the same amount nor should he. Jesus, if Neil wants upwards of 1.7mill... well....

Why would the Bs compare him to what Boland got? That is Chicago's problem if they overpaid for Boland. The Bs signed Krejci to a very fair deal. That is who they should compare Kessel too. Not David Boland. He don't play for the Bruins. Krejci do & Kessel is not in Krejci's class as an allround player. So why should Chia pay him like Krejci? I would not go a cent over 3.5 for Kessel at this point.

right-o better give him thomas vanek money

He's alot closer to Thomas Vanek then Dave Bolland that's for sure.

Let's hope Lucic or Wheeler don't tear it up next year because they can't dare get more then the already lock hall of famer David Krejci....Heaven forbid!

Why would the Bs compare him to what Boland got? That is Chicago's problem if they overpaid for Boland. The Bs signed Krejci to a very fair deal. That is who they should compare Kessel too. Not David Boland. He don't play for the Bruins. Krejci do & Kessel is not in Krejci's class as an allround player. So why should Chia pay him like Krejci? I would not go a cent over 3.5 for Kessel at this point.

So then pack his things and enjoy your draft picks that will contribute in three years or so, or better yet maybe a Dan Hamhuis or Thomas Hickey to take us to the next level....

Why would the Bs compare him to what Boland got? That is Chicago's problem if they overpaid for Boland. The Bs signed Krejci to a very fair deal. That is who they should compare Kessel too. Not David Boland. He don't play for the Bruins. Krejci do & Kessel is not in Krejci's class as an allround player. So why should Chia pay him like Krejci? I would not go a cent over 3.5 for Kessel at this point.

Even if it meant making the team worse next season? Interesting philosophy.

Kessel is easily worth that contract when you look at comparables around the league. If he signs for a penny under 4.5 he needs a new agent. With Chia admitting they can afford to sign him, just that he doesn't want to loyalty would go out the window and I'd be looking for the best offer sheet to sign... I have attitude problems though.

Krejci... well... let's leave that conversation alone. People don't like it when you rip on the anointed one.

But can't they say ****** him, without f**king us? Waive him and send him home. He doesnt have to go to Providence and be a distraction. Put him in exile. He's gone and forgotten and the B's wouldn't have to suffer.

I agreed with you and erfus, but then I ate some yellow and black M&M's and I am at peace with this....seriously, I agree with both of you and am scratching my head over this to and think what the bleep is going on; However, they (Bruins hockey ops) have more information than me, spend all day discussing this between outstanding hockey minds like Benning, Chia, Cam, Sweeney, Bradley and who knows who else, so they got to have a bleeping plan....and we aint going to have to wait long to see it; by the fourth beer on the 4th I think I'll have more of an idea of what they are doing

mine is usually thought up during some Aerosmith song on the way home

from 3.5 million to 7.5 million... is this thread based in extremes? Where do I go to find reality... I think I'm lost.

that's my point, that dave bolland getting paid a ridiculous sum for a skill set that is decidedly unlike kessels is a bad comparable, just as thomas vanek's ridiculous RFA offer is

the truth of the matter is that the vanek offer is a closer comparable but vanek's skillset is still dissimilar

i posit that "BOLLAND AT 3.25?! KESSEL SHOULD GET X" makes as much sense as "RASK AT 3.25?! KESSEL SHOULD GET ∑(n=1,n=inf,n!)"

oddly i agree with WBC8's krejci comment as it's very hard to compare a playmaker to a pure goalscorer who doesn't do a whole lot else

Who gives a **** ? I mean really, so Krejci signs early and leaves money on the table so everyone else has to bend over too? Dave Freakin Bolland just signed for 3.25 mil and you want Phil to sign for 3-3.5 and that's fair? Good luck.

It has become pretty evident the Bs do. Bolland is not the Bs problem. Why have a one dimentional, soft player making over 3.75 million while a much better player (Krejci) is making the same amount. Just doesn't make sense for Chia to do that.

It has become pretty evident the Bs do. Bolland is not the Bs problem. Why have a one dimentional, soft player making over 3.75 million while a much better player (Krejci) is making the same amount. Just doesn't make sense for Chia to do that.

It's simple, because the other guy is already signed, so time to move on. To simply draw the line in the sand with Krejci's number is a mistake IMO. Consider yourself lucky he signed it.

Even if it meant making the team worse next season? Interesting philosophy.

Kessel is easily worth that contract when you look at comparables around the league. If he signs for a penny under 4.5 he needs a new agent. With Chia admitting they can afford to sign him, just that he doesn't want to loyalty would go out the window and I'd be looking for the best offer sheet to sign... I have attitude problems though.

Krejci... well... let's leave that conversation alone. People don't like it when you rip on the anointed one.

Well that is where you & I disagree. I don't believe Kessel is worth that. I see a player who can score but does very little else after that. I see no physical game whatsoever. I see a player who is weak on the puck with a very low hockey sense & a questionable defensive game. The kid can score but brings little else to the table after that. There has also been questions in the past about his work ethic. I just don't see how you can become a successful organization by rewarding that type of player when contract time comes just because David Bolland got a nice contract.

It is pretty evident the Bs are using Krejci as their guideline & rightfully so. If Kessel wants Krejci money then it is simple. Sign the Bs offer & work at improving his allround game. Until then he just doesn't warrant that type of commitment from the Bruins.

Well that is where you & I disagree. I don't believe Kessel is worth that. I see a player who can score but does very little else after that. I see no physical game whatsoever. I see a player who is weak on the puck with a very low hockey sense & a questionable defensive game. The kid can score but brings little else to the table after that. There has also been questions in the past about his work ethic. I just don't see how you can become a successful organization by rewarding that type of player when contract time comes just because David Bolland got a nice contract.

It is pretty evident the Bs are using Krejci as their guideline & rightfully so. If Kessel wants Krejci money then it is simple. Sign the Bs offer & work at improving his allround game. Until then he just doesn't warrant that type of commitment from the Bruins.

I won't get into the Kessel Krejci comparison again. Let's just say statistics don't back your theory up... but you're more then entitled to it... we'll just agree to disagree on the Kessel Krejci comparison.

It's simple, because the other guy is already signed, so time to move on. To simply draw the line in the sand with Krejci's number is a mistake IMO. Consider yourself lucky he signed it.

It is not that easy. In a cap world you have to treat players with respect. Krejci sign's a nice team oriented deal & then a couple of months later you sign a lesser player for more money. That easily causes an immediate rift on how to go about contract negotiations with the Bs.

The Bs appear to be going in the proper direction with young players who "want" to wear the spoked B & will take the hometown discount to stay. That is what Krejci did & hopefully Lucic will do the same. My point is Phil Kessel is not good enough to change that policy. If he wants more then Krejci the Bs have to move on from him. The kid just doesn't bring enough to the table. Just my opinion.

i, for once, welcome the krejci kap

the lidström line was getting old

I won't get into the Kessel Krejci comparison again. Let's just say statistics don't back your theory up... but you're more then entitled to it... we'll just agree to disagree on the Kessel Krejci comparison.

Thats fine. However, I will say that statistics do not tell the whole story. Lucic does not have Kessel's #'s but he brings alot to the table in so many other aspects. You have to take that into consideration when signing these guys.

Anyhow, we seem to be going in circles so I will not go further in the comparison. Either way I wants the Bs to do what is best for the team. These little debates are what makes this forum so great.

Was the ECHL an option?

i was wondering this myself, not sure if nhl contracts apply to echl with transferring and such... i would of let him show up at camp, if he bites, send him to ahl and scratch him every game til he retires. seems like a dumb move especially with cap space but they must be up to something, i think cutting him loose will help especially if he was being a deterent to the younger players but this is an organizational move and it was made to save paying this slouch, yet it ends up tying our hands anyways. not sure how it will play out but this doesnt make me jump for joy as it ends up costing us cap room, i would of scratched his ass in providence til he retired.

Another needless Jacobs-imposed handicap for our big market.