Quinton Jackson: "I'm done with fighting."

Habsfan18
09-22-2009, 07:28 PM
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/quinton-jackson-im-done-fighting-1054428/

Some posters joined his site and apparently it's legit. :amazed::(

The UFC has done a lot for me but I think I have done more for them. The UFC bought WFA to get my contract & they saved my life, so I felt loyal to them. They pushed me into a fight with Chuck Liddel even when I clearly stated I wasn't ready to fight for the belt because the American fans didn't know me but I took the fight and didn't complain & after I won the American fans booed me for the first time which changed the way I saw them & it hurt me deeply.

Then before I can even get out of the cage they announced that I was fighting Dan Henderson without even asking me. After I beat Dan Henderson, I made history in becoming the first undisputed champion in MMA but was never even given the pride belt in the cage & I was never promoted as the undisputed champ. Later Anderson Silva was.

Then they had me coach TUF season 7 and fight Forrest and the fight was very controversial & normally when a fight is that close & controversial there is normally an instant replay. I can name a couple of instances. Instead they offered me the Vanderlei Silva fight which I gladly accepted even though I know it was a very risky fight for me to take because of all the drama that was happening to me at the time. I fought that fight with a jaw injury and then a couple weeks later Dana called me and asked me to fight Rashad. For the first time I said no, I didn't want to fight because it was such short notice & I wouldn't have had a long break between camp. Dana talked me into fighting Rashad anyway but Rashad refused the fight and so I had to fight Jardine as a favor to the UFC instead of getting my belt back (which wasn't even worth it to me financially).

Then I reinjured my jaw in the fight with Vanderlei & Jardine. Frank Mir gets hurt so they wanted to switch my fight from UFC 100 to the fight Frank couldn't make it to but I couldn't fight cause I needed jaw surgury. So they give Machida the fight against Rashad & they told me they want me to coach TUF season 10 against Rashad. That's why I wanted Rashad to win so bad but when Rashad got knocked out I told them I wanted to fight Machida for the belt but Dana told me if I coach TUF against Rashad that I could fight Machida afterwards cause this was a different type of ultimate fighter show they were doing. After I signed the contract Dana then changes his mind & says I have to fight Rashad & even told me what to say in the press & so my fans think I was scared to fight Machida. After all that I still never complained & I did it all.

Then this movie role came about that I have been trying to get for over a year & as soon as I found out I was close to getting it, I called Dana right away & asked to push the Memphis fight back just a month or so. I told him what this movie role meant to me. I told him that I used to bond with my father watching the tv show as a kid when my parents where still married & it represents the memories I had with my father when we lived together. My dad
became an alcohalic & addicted to drugs & we grew apart. But after my dad got his life back together, I was so proud of my dad & I told him I would always take care of him in the future & make him proud of me. My dad & I are still very big fans of the show & I am basically doing this for the childhood memories I had spending time in front of the tv with my dad. Dana went on the internet & mocked me because of that & I still did nothing. Dana & I finally talked & we made up & then after that he went back on the internet & said some ******** & he was talking bad about the movie when information is not even supposed to be released & talking about payments which is not even true could really hurt my future acting career, which could very well last longer than my fighting career. I'm not like Randy Couture. My body has been getting so many different injuries that I wont be able to fight until my forties & neither do I want to fight that long. So I feel like my second career could be in jeopardy.. so I'm done fighting. I've been getting negative reviews from the dumb ass fans that don't pay my bills or put my kids though college. So I'm hanging it up. I'm gonna miss all my loyal fans but hopefully they'll follow me to my new career & I will gain more loyal fans along the way. & all you hater fans out there can kiss my big black hairy ass! & anybody that don't like what I just said can come try to kick my ass!

I still feel the UFC is a great organization and I felt like I was very loyal to them but they didn't respect my loyalty but I wish the UFC the best. I did a lot of things for them. I wish no bad blood between us but I have kids & a family back in Memphis to provide for & thats all that matters to me!

Live in the Now
09-22-2009, 07:42 PM
Good for him and anyone else who decides to stand up to Dana.

Jonathan.
09-22-2009, 08:01 PM
Oh well.

Ensane
09-22-2009, 08:16 PM
I don't understand why he'd post something like this, not only on his personal site, but behind a registration requirement. I'll believe it if it hits one of the major sources, but until then I'll treat it like a rumor.

Boston Bruno
09-22-2009, 09:17 PM
Better hope the A-TEAM does not FAIL.

Nalyd Psycho
09-22-2009, 09:20 PM
Good for him and anyone else who decides to stand up to Dana.

Yeah, Dana is starting to dig his own grave. Playing the "Vince McMahon" is not good for business.

Habsfan18
09-22-2009, 09:23 PM
I don't understand why he'd post something like this, not only on his personal site, but behind a registration requirement. I'll believe it if it hits one of the major sources, but until then I'll treat it like a rumor.

http://twitter.com/RamPage4ReaL Confirmed via Twitter.

BadHammy*
09-22-2009, 09:30 PM
Yeah, Dana is starting to dig his own grave. Playing the "Vince McMahon" is not good for business.

Completely agree

Avs_19
09-22-2009, 09:39 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

This sucks.

Chairman Mallard
09-22-2009, 11:00 PM
If the A-Team really meant that much to him, he has to go do it.

You only live once, and your parents don't live forever.

yakitate304
09-22-2009, 11:08 PM
If the A-Team really meant that much to him, he has to go do it.

You only live once, and your parents don't live forever.

Long live the A-Team.

Chairman Mallard
09-22-2009, 11:09 PM
Long live the A-Team.

Here Here!

Shabutie
09-22-2009, 11:25 PM
Is Rampage currently signed to a contract with UFC? If so, wouldn't he kinda be obligated to fight?

FruityPants3*
09-22-2009, 11:33 PM
Good for him. Although it reads like someone else wrote the first few paragraphs and only he wrote the long one near the end. :laugh:

The Big Swede
09-23-2009, 01:39 AM
Oh well not a big loss

Lets him be a star in something else

littleD
09-23-2009, 05:38 AM
Is Rampage currently signed to a contract with UFC? If so, wouldn't he kinda be obligated to fight?

He's "retiring" though. I think you can still retire from something if you are under contract.

Using the drama for leverage anyways, he's not retiring.

pox
09-23-2009, 08:25 AM
publicity stunt

JLHockeyKnight
09-23-2009, 08:29 AM
Good for him. It takes a smart head to know when your body can't take it anymore. Hopefully he keeps coaching and stuff, I'm willing to bet he'd make a great coach.

As for the Vince McMahon comment, the difference is that "Mr. McMahon" is only a character, Vince is supposed to be a good boss from what I've heard, correct me if I'm wrong.

FlyersGuy69
09-23-2009, 09:03 AM
it's on mmajunkie too --> http://mmajunkie.com/

I'm a big Rampage fan and I hope his acting career works out. I just think it's kind of stupid to leave big money on the table for fighting while he is still can compete.

who knows, he could always change his mind.



Dana's response to Rampage's retirement --> Dana White: Rampage Jackson 'Acting Like a Baby' but Can Do What He Wants (http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/09/23/dana-white-rampage-jackson-acting-like-a-baby-but-can-do-what/)

LiquidClown
09-23-2009, 10:06 AM
Using the drama for leverage anyways, he's not retiring.


Ding ding ding.....Rampage will be back after he finds out that his acting "skills" aren't going to be wanted as much as his fighting skills are. Dana will flash some more cash towards him and he'll be back. If it worked with Couture it'll work with page.

harmfuljays
09-23-2009, 10:21 AM
Well Rampage isn't the sharpest tool in the shed but good luck to him. From watching just one episode of TUF 10 I was disappointed in his understanding of MMA.

Until there is a competing organization that can be successful against the UFC and that's going to be a long time Dana White will do what he wants. The fighters will have to deal or take their ball and go home....kind of like what's happening here.

TLinden16
09-23-2009, 11:20 AM
Good for him. It takes a smart head to know when your body can't take it anymore. Hopefully he keeps coaching and stuff, I'm willing to bet he'd make a great coach.

As for the Vince McMahon comment, the difference is that "Mr. McMahon" is only a character, Vince is supposed to be a good boss from what I've heard, correct me if I'm wrong.



Clearly you have not seen the man on TUF shows. Or in any training clips for that matter. He is an awful coach.

LiquidClown
09-23-2009, 11:49 AM
Vince is supposed to be a good boss from what I've heard, correct me if I'm wrong.

Ask Brett Hart:sarcasm:

Ensane
09-23-2009, 11:58 AM
Ding ding ding.....Rampage will be back after he finds out that his acting "skills" aren't going to be wanted as much as his fighting skills are. Dana will flash some more cash towards him and he'll be back. If it worked with Couture it'll work with page.
I'm with this. Sure Rampage can get these niche roles, but it's just a matter of time before he finds out that he won't be the next action star. Sure he'll make decent wages as BA Baracus, but I'm willing to bet that he makes much more in endorsements, bonuses, and base salary from fighting 3x per year.

Prediction: he's back in the UFC, not another organization, no later than this day next year.

yakitate304
09-23-2009, 12:06 PM
Good for him. It takes a smart head to know when your body can't take it anymore. Hopefully he keeps coaching and stuff, I'm willing to bet he'd make a great coach.

As for the Vince McMahon comment, the difference is that "Mr. McMahon" is only a character, Vince is supposed to be a good boss from what I've heard, correct me if I'm wrong.

From what I understand, the "Mr. McMahon" big boss man character was created after the fiasco between Bret Hard and Shawn Michaels in Montreal. Look up the "Montreal Screwjob". They just happened to spin a terrible situation and turn it into another story.


Anyways, Rampage will be back eventually.

Ensane
09-23-2009, 12:45 PM
Dana's response (http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/09/23/dana-white-rampage-jackson-acting-like-a-baby-but-can-do-what/)

Considering the suddenness and the impact of this all, I view this as one of the more mature moments in White's public career.

Avs_19
09-23-2009, 12:55 PM
Dana's response (http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/09/23/dana-white-rampage-jackson-acting-like-a-baby-but-can-do-what/)

Considering the suddenness and the impact of this all, I view this as one of the more mature moments in White's public career.

No kidding. I expected atleast 15-20 F-Bombs during the interview.

This might be a bit out there but I think the reason Dana didn't say too much and kept it pretty classy is because he knows Rampage will be back if their relationship is still good. If he had come out and insulted him and gone beserk then Rampage would probably tell him to **** off. But this way the friendship is still there and when Rampage decides to return in March/April 2010, Dana will be able to welcome him back.

Boston Bruno
09-23-2009, 01:00 PM
Clearly you have not seen the man on TUF shows. Or in any training clips for that matter. He is an awful coach.

Toss up between him and Shamrock for worst coach EVER.

Bennysflyers16
09-23-2009, 01:34 PM
Who cares,,, blah blah blah acting for my dad, it is all about the $$$.

Jump in your giant truck and go **** off !

BladesofSteel21
09-23-2009, 02:15 PM
Whatever became of his legal problems? Is that over or did he plead guilty and get community service.

FlyersGuy69
09-23-2009, 03:58 PM
I agree he will be back fighting.

there isn't going to be that many roles for him in Hollywood. even though Rampage is a charismatic guy, guys like him are a dime a dozen in Hollywood.

with the type of lifestyle Rampage likes and lives, he will be back for the pay checks.

I think the same goes for Huerta too. he isn't going to become some big star.

parabola
09-23-2009, 04:30 PM
Dana's response (http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/09/23/dana-white-rampage-jackson-acting-like-a-baby-but-can-do-what/)

Considering the suddenness and the impact of this all, I view this as one of the more mature moments in White's public career.

Yeah calling him a baby is surprisingly tame.

ZeeGerman
09-23-2009, 04:56 PM
I love how some of you can sit here and criticize his decision, whether it's true or not, like you've lived his life. Get off his ****ing back. More than likely it is about money, and if he can save his health in the mean time, why not? It's easy for everyone to sit on the 'interwebs' and post like they do. Half of you talk like you just discovered your pecker for the first time and actually grew a pair to tag along for the ride.

I used to be the same until I started taking some BJJ and Muay Thai classes and actually doing some sparring. It beat the **** out of me, no lying there, and my respect for fighters jumped up at least 200%.

Would you do a job that pays less and could potentially end your life sooner?

The Kingslayer
09-23-2009, 04:56 PM
Hes thinkin 2 steps ahead...he doesnt want to go toe to toe with the Dragon.:nod:

Gustave
09-23-2009, 05:31 PM
I give this retirement 6 months tops. The money he's leaving on the table will be way more convincing than this sudden 'My boss doesn't respect as much as I thought" thing.

Rampage will understand that the grass isn't greener in Hollywood real quick. Talk about a place where you are dumped with the rest of the garbage when you're not pulling in the viewers.

Rampage's decisions lately haven't been all that great. The truck rampage, the passing on the title shot, the fighters he picked on TUF and now this. He's quite the character. He'll change his mind, no doubt.

LeafErikson*
09-23-2009, 05:47 PM
He'll be back. His star will fade quickly, and that's putting it nicely.

yakitate304
09-24-2009, 12:56 AM
I think the same goes for Huerta too. he isn't going to become some big star.

Apparently Huerta wants to come back and fight now, rather than acting. The Maynard fight re-ignited his competitive passion or something.

Vagrant
09-24-2009, 02:47 PM
Rampage is a headcase. He'll be back. Something like, Dana White will have to make a "concession" for Rampage to get a title shot in order to sign back with the UFC. It will work for both parties. People will pay to see Rampage fight whoever has the belt at that time, ideally Rashad, to see if he has "lost a step", etc.

I hate getting into the politics of the sport right now, but everything about UFC except for the fights seems to be plotted point by point.

Ensane
09-24-2009, 02:54 PM
Apparently Huerta wants to come back and fight now, rather than acting. The Maynard fight re-ignited his competitive passion or something.
I think Huerta just needed to take a step back. I don't think he every really saw it as a complete out for fighting, but he fought so much and so hard in 2007, that he really needed to evaluate what he was doing and where it would leave him. The his situation and Rampage's aren't congruent.

Avs_19
09-24-2009, 04:15 PM
Newest post from Rampage....

"Make no mistake the UFC treated me a lot better than Pride. If you get hurt in training in a UFC fight then will send you to the best doctors. If you get hurt in a Pride fight most of the time they will tell me "oh you better take care of that!" The UFC will always let you know in a timely matter who you will be fighting & give you enough time to train but with Pride if I knew 4 weeks ahead I would be happy cause most times they just give you a 2 weeks notice. Pride will rip you off on your merchandising but the UFC would find someway to hook you up on merchandising deals. Pride will make fights easier for certain fighters inside the ring (like standing up fights early). With the UFC whatever happens happens. The only thing I see the UFC needs to fix in this area is to get better judges. Ones who know about MMA & not from the boxing world.

The reason why I'm talking about all this is that I feel like this whole situation could have been avoided if UFC would have respected me more & rescheduled the fight about a month or more in my hometown, which I know fights can be rescheduled because of the Matt Hughes & Matt Serra was postponed due to injuries. Instead, Dana went on the internet & started talking bad about my decision. All we had to do was come to a certain type of argreement or understanding, which later came after a lot of trash talk from Dana. My manager flew to Vegas & talked to them & tried to work things out like a MAN. & still I keep quite & I didn't talk trash back on the internet. The only reason why I'm even talking now is because I feel like I owe my fans an explanation because I am a MAN, a real MAN.

Yeah I made good money with the UFC more than Pride, but I made both shows more money than they made me. I didn't care too much about Pride treating me like crap cause I was an American in a Japanese company. Now in my own country, I feel like I'm being disrepected. Everything is not about how much money you make. You could be the richest man in the world but if nobody repsects you then it don't mean ****. You can't buy respect. It should be earned. & thats what I'm all about.

Now Rashad wanna put his two cents in. Rashad remains to be a boy under me. He wins a few fights, and some of them I thought the judges fell asleep during the fight & woke up & saw him playing with his nipples & guessed he won. He knocked Chuck Liddel out when Chuck wasn't even the same man anymore. & now he thinks he's on my level. Yeah he talks about how he beat Forrest & I lost. But when I fought Forrest that was the worst Rampage I had ever seen. & I still know in my heart I won that fight. So now he's Mr. All Cocky & says I got a big mouth & talk a lot of smack. If my memory serves me correctly, he's the one that got into my face after the Jardine fight & started talking trash when he was the one that was originally supposed to fight me that night, but he told Dana on the phone he didn't want to fight. He wanted to keep his belt longer.

Now, I'm not saying wether or not I would have beaten Machida, but I wouldn't have went out like a ***** like the way he did. So I'm the one that was looking forward to the Rashad fight the most. I have always been a fighter my whole life. As a kid my family treated me like **** which made me the person who I am today. This is why when I meet people I treat people the way I want to be treated (unless they approach me wrong or piss me off). I grew up thinking that I wasn't even important to my family which made me not even care about myself. That's why I can get knee-ed in the face 15 times & come back for more. That's why I can get my legs seriously hurt in a fight & still try to win. Thats why I can get my ribs broken in a fight & not tap out because my whole life I never thought I mattered to anybody or anybody cared about me. But now I have kids that love me & care about me & I'm not used to people caring about me but it feels good! I'm a very loyal person. Wolves are the most loyal animals on the planet. I was very loyal to the UFC, but now I owe all my loyalty to my kids... the ones who really care for me. The majority of my fights on the street I fought for free & they all were with emotion. I am a fighter, I will always be a fighter but my professional fights that were fought with emotion, I ended them all in devestating fashion. I am the wrong fighter that should fight pissed off professionally. I don't even consider it fair. So Rashad says he will fight me for free. I will gladly meet him at any gym & fight him just to shut his mouth up. & I mean that for real!

When I told Dana I did not want my belt back & that I just wanted to make money, it was around the time when they gave me Vanderlei & actually it was around the same time when my mind wasn't right (my mind was at TRUCK status) & that's the way I felt because I felt I had been robbed out of my belt. After the Jardine fight I did want my belt back because my family was so proud of me when I was champion & I want to make my family proud cause now I finally feel like my family cares about me & they accept me & this is what I've been wanting my whole childhood... for my family to like me. If I got to beat some ass for my family to like me, so be it. But now, I'm a grown man & I'll be damned if anybody disrespects me. I'm not having it, it's not happening!" -Posted by Rampage Jackson on September 24, 2009 at 12:18pm

Avs_19
09-24-2009, 08:48 PM
http://www.mmabay.co.uk/Story%2002794.html

“Now he’s talking all hard, like he’s gonna hit me in the face? All he’s doing is really pissing me off more and more. I will go to Rashad’s house, knock on his door, drag his ugly ass out into the yard, let him play with his nipples first and knock him the **** out.”

“Like Rashad says, we’ll do the fight for free. I want him to put his money where his mouth is so I can knock his teeth out and give him some change, the boy needs a change, his mouth is too big but he ain’t nothing. The boy ain’t fought the people I’ve fought, he ain’t got the experience I’ve got. He’s barking up the wrong tree so he’s gonna get pissed on for real.”

:laugh:

This fight has to happen.....

colonel_korn
09-28-2009, 03:54 PM
more Rampage

“I’m addressing the fans only here, I think I owe them an explanation. Yeah I feel the things I said (in my blog) are true and yeah, I don’t like Rashad Evans because of the type of person he is. He talks smack and he tries to turn around on how it’s me that’s the one who’s talking smack and not him. At first I really wanted this fight to get my belt back but since doing “The Ultimate Fighter” show and six weeks of him talking the way he’s talking and him just being the way he is, yeah it makes me wanna fight Rashad, especially after he said he’d punch me in the face for free. I’m having none of that either.”

“The bottom line is I’m thinking, ‘What should I do?’ My family is standing behind me 100% and my kids are too young to even care. All my kids know is I’m always gone and I’m not spending much time with them and I even asked my dog how does he feel and my dog said, ‘Who the hell are you, I don’t know even know you no more. I don’t even know you, why you even talking to me?’ My dog just looked at me, licked his nose, lit up a fart and walked out my room.”

“Everybody knows I’m doing this A-Team movie and now I’ve got a lot of other movie offers and it’s for big money. So I’m thinking, ‘What should I do? Should I let an organisation disrespect me, tell me what I can’t do, make loads of money off me and call me a baby?’ I love the fans. I really do love the fans and I’m thinking, ‘Should I go out there and give them what they wanna see?’ The fans buy the Pay-Per-Views, they give you the strength to go out there and put on a show because their cheering for you but I’ve grown to like making movies. This movie is really fun, I get to shoot people and that something I’ve never done before because I’m too nice of a guy. But every time I shoot somebody I see Rashad’s face over and over, like I get to shoot Rashad thousands of times and it’s fun. I get to beat people up. I can put anybody’s face on them and beat the hell out of them.

“People are coming up to me with all these other movies and I’m thinking, ‘Man, do I really wanna bust my ass in training every day, have all these injuries, worries about whether I look good and whether I’m going to win?’ I don’t have that with the movies, I already know what’s gonna happen, it’s scripted so there’s just no worries. At the end of the day I go home, I can just kick back and enjoy myself. But I can’t lie, my heart is with fighting. When I meet my good fans on the street and they say, ‘Oh man, you’re the reason why I got into the UFC’ or I see a fan wearing my t-shirt it, means a lot to me. It means a lot to me that the fans like me and my fighting style and I really respect that. That’s a part of fighting that would keep me there and keep me motivated.”

“I want the fans to know that I’m not abandoning you just because of the comments from Dana White or the UFC. Don’t think that I’m running away or selling out because the main reason I got into fighting is to make money, I’ve always been honest about that. I want to take care of my family cos my Mom and Dad never really had a whole lot. they’ve never really gone nowhere. I want them to go on vacation to Hawaii, and do what normal people do on vacation. I want my Mom to have a nice house, a nice car, wear nice dresses and never have to worry about anything like that. Whether you guys know it or not I’ve always wanted to do movies, but I know fighting is what got me there and I’ve still got love for my fans.”

“But Rashad, that boy, he just don’t know who I am really. He don’t know that he shouldn’t talk to me like that. He has no idea what he’s dealing with. The only thing I can tell you fans is everybody knows I’m a spiritual person and I have to leave it up to my heavenly father. I’m gonna pray to him and ask him what role he wants me to take, what road he wants me to go. He’s the one that’s given me all the skills that I have. For Dana to say that I’m not a movie star and that he’s heard it before, I don’t think there’s been someone like me. So I’m going to pray to my Farther who gave me these skills and see where he wants me to go and leave it up to him. If he wants me to fight and do movies or just do movies or just fight then he’ll direct me. I’m gonna put everything in his hands.”

maybe we should all pray for God to tell him to fight Rashad instead of making B-movies.

FlyersGuy69
09-29-2009, 07:04 PM
I listened to a radio interview with Dana White today and he said that Rampage will fight again and it will be in the UFC.

he said that Rampage was a little mad at him and he was a little mad at Rampage but they have been talking and that everything will be OK.

again, he used the Tito deal...where if him and Tito could work things out, then anything can be worked out.

Cone
09-30-2009, 12:18 AM
i think that guy lives near me

he has a ridiculous truck

i think he crashed into somebody a couple years ago or something and it was some big deal

FlyersGuy69
09-30-2009, 05:21 AM
i think that guy lives near me

he has a ridiculous truck

i think he crashed into somebody a couple years ago or something and it was some big deal

http://assets.sbnation.com/imported_assets/15808/quinton-rampage-truck.jpg