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Buffaloed 11-13-2009, 03:56 PM I'm talking about guys whose role was to fight. They did it regularly and regularly lost. Keith Magnuson who played for the Chicago Blackhawks from 1969-1980 gets my vote. Every off season he'd take some kind of lessons (boxing, karate, judo, etc.) or fitness program to improve his fighting ability, and continue to get whupped. He was a very gritty and willing combatant that could never seem to win a fight.
Mathias 11-13-2009, 03:57 PM Steve Webb was another willing punching bag for a couple of seasons.
KirkP 11-13-2009, 04:14 PM Bryan Allen early in his career with the Canucks tried to goon it up on several occasions but was thrashed pretty bad whenever he did. Brad May was also a terrible fighter during his second tour of duty with Vancouver.
Riley Cote, he's a punching bag...
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HariKari 11-13-2009, 04:20 PM Steve Webb was another willing punching bag for a couple of seasons.
Steve Webb was huge in the one NYI v. Leafs playoff series before the lockout. Hit everything and "Steve Webb" chants echoed through Nasseau. Was the first and last I had ever heard of him.
Mathias 11-13-2009, 04:26 PM Steve Webb was huge in the one NYI v. Leafs playoff series before the lockout. Hit everything and "Steve Webb" chants echoed through Nasseau. Was the first and last I had ever heard of him.
He did play 321 games in the NHL and he had 55 fights. I think he lost them all. :)
Gee Wally 11-13-2009, 04:32 PM one of the best non fight "fights".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cng435qQp4&feature=related
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Morris Wanchuk 11-13-2009, 04:34 PM I'm talking about guys whose role was to fight. They did it regularly and regularly lost. Keith Magnuson who played for the Chicago Blackhawks from 1969-1980 gets my vote. Every off season he'd take some kind of lessons (boxing, karate, judo, etc.) or fitness program to improve his fighting ability, and continue to get whupped. He was a very gritty and willing combatant that could never seem to win a fight.
Heh, he was the one I thought of too!
I never saw him play but I had a VHS of Bruins fights and he always got his ass kicked.
Dr Grant 11-13-2009, 04:40 PM Tom Kostopoulos.
El Dandy 11-13-2009, 04:44 PM Garnett Exelby
Speedy Russian 11-13-2009, 04:44 PM Dave Morisette
bruinsfan46 11-13-2009, 04:47 PM Tom Kostopoulus.
Tough to disagree with.
For a guy that fought a lot Matthew Barnaby was an absolute punching bag. Dropyourgloves.com has a list of the fighters with worst win percentage on their site: http://www.dropyourgloves.com/Fights/PlayerWinRate.aspx?Decisions=50&League=1&List=Worst
TheSchoolMaster 11-13-2009, 04:53 PM Post-Steroids Andrew Peters
Dr Grant 11-13-2009, 04:58 PM Tough to disagree with.
For a guy that fought a lot Matthew Barnaby was an absolute punching bag. Dropyourgloves.com has a list of the fighters with worst win percentage on their site: http://www.dropyourgloves.com/Fights/PlayerWinRate.aspx?Decisions=50&League=1&List=Worst
According to DYG, Kostopoulos has 52 career NHL fight and he has only won 2 of them.:help:
Ensane 11-13-2009, 04:59 PM Tough to disagree with.
For a guy that fought a lot Matthew Barnaby was an absolute punching bag. Dropyourgloves.com has a list of the fighters with worst win percentage on their site: http://www.dropyourgloves.com/Fights/PlayerWinRate.aspx?Decisions=50&League=1&List=Worst
Even before looking at your link, I was going to post Cam Russell.
But hot damn did he play on a couple of squads with some legit heavies. One year with Chicago they boasted Ciccone, Cummins, Moreau, and a prime Probert. Then his last year with Colorado, they iced Dingman, Parker, Belak, Rychel, and Odgers.
Oh the 90s. :naughty:
Epoch 11-13-2009, 05:00 PM Nick Kypreos.
sm0ka47 11-13-2009, 05:00 PM Kelly Buchberger
sm0ka47 11-13-2009, 05:01 PM Steve Webb was huge in the one NYI v. Leafs playoff series before the lockout. Hit everything and "Steve Webb" chants echoed through Nasseau. Was the first and last I had ever heard of him.
Steve Webb hit like a Mack Truck.. But he was a terrible fighter.
JeromeHP 11-13-2009, 05:05 PM anyone remember Gordie Dwyer ? he was awful
one of the best non fight "fights".
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Caballo Blanco 11-13-2009, 05:10 PM Chris Dingman
Chris McAllister
Andrei Nazarov
Steve McKenna
Buffaloed 11-13-2009, 05:16 PM Riley Cote, he's a punching bag...
He's never had any problem beating Andrew Peters.
He's never had any problem beating Andrew Peters.
Apart from Peters and Roy, he gets his ass handed to him more times than not. It's quite depressing, as you want your tough guy to build energy. Having you face boxed in certainly doesn't do that, it's counter-productive.
Watsatheo 11-13-2009, 05:40 PM Tom Kostopoulus.
Seconded. He tries...he really does. But when he comes to the aid of a teammate it's like a rabbit trying to save a mouse from getting eaten by a lion.
Hammerstein 11-13-2009, 05:46 PM anyone remember Gordie Dwyer ? he was awful
Yeah Gordie was never scared to drop them so i'll give him props for that,but i dont think he ever won one,not in Montreal anyways.
Man i miss Chris Nilan...
RAZZIE King 11-13-2009, 06:08 PM Tom Kostopoulos.
I heard that his taunt was "Hey!!! You wanna win a fight???"...
nyr2k2 11-13-2009, 06:21 PM Man, I thought you guys were talking about Chris Kotsopoulos for a second. Because then I'd disagree. Tom Kostopoulos, though, sucks.
PhilaFlyers 11-13-2009, 06:39 PM Cote, Riley
DanyHeatleyfnAllstar 11-13-2009, 06:55 PM Man, I thought you guys were talking about Chris Kotsopoulos for a second. Because then I'd disagree. Tom Kostopoulos, though, sucks.
Uncle Jesse could take both of them.
Canadiens1958 11-13-2009, 07:52 PM Dave Morisette
Ask Bob Probert about Dave Morisette.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O1ssu-qfQo
DrinkFightFlyers 11-13-2009, 08:00 PM I'd probably have to say Riley Cote. He is tough (maybe the toughest guy in the league, pound for pound) and goes out there and will drop 'em with anyone, but he doesn't always win. In fact he rarely wins. But he always gets the team energized, he is just under sized. Worst fighter of all time, whose role it is isn't to fight...
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'Nuff said.
SpinTheBlackCircle 11-13-2009, 08:06 PM I'm talking about guys whose role was to fight. They did it regularly and regularly lost. Keith Magnuson who played for the Chicago Blackhawks from 1969-1980 gets my vote. Every off season he'd take some kind of lessons (boxing, karate, judo, etc.) or fitness program to improve his fighting ability, and continue to get whupped. He was a very gritty and willing combatant that could never seem to win a fight.
He was my dads favorite player. Said he would do anything for his teammates and not worry about his own safety.
SpinTheBlackCircle 11-13-2009, 08:24 PM Jim Kyte may not have been the worst, but man, there are a lot of clips with him just getting destroyed.
bruinsfan46 11-13-2009, 08:30 PM Jim Kyte may not have been the worst, but man, there are a lot of clips with him just getting destroyed.
Jim Kyte was as tough as nails but he did have a few very bad losses. Kocur and Ray both KO'd him badly and Dave Brown beat him pretty good a couple times but he certainly didn't lose very many.
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ru4reals 11-13-2009, 09:13 PM Kelly Buchberger
We got a winner! But I think Steve McKenna might be even worst!
Nova_Scotia_Vees 11-13-2009, 09:18 PM Gino Odjick
Florida Ranger 11-13-2009, 09:34 PM Aaron Voros or Ryan Hollweg has my vote. I'm young and haven't seen much compared to some of the older ones, but they suck! They just suck at fightning.
Voros is slow. Slow punches and slow dodges. lol His arms are like two feet long anyway...
Hollweg just leaves his face open the whole fight Seems like he always hits his opponent's shoulders when he "lands" his punches. The only fight I've think he won was when he fought Ryan Carter in 2008... :handclap:
Florida Ranger 11-13-2009, 09:39 PM I'd probably have to say Riley Cote. He is tough (maybe the toughest guy in the league, pound for pound) and goes out there and will drop 'em with anyone, but he doesn't always win. In fact he rarely wins. But he always gets the team energized, he is just under sized. Worst fighter of all time, whose role it is isn't to fight...
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'Nuff said.
lmao.... Oh, jeez... hahaha I get a kick out of that fight. Semin punches like my sister. Seriously.
KillerWhale 11-13-2009, 09:44 PM I'm surprised no one has mentioned Jeff Cowan yet, another one of those guys who was ready and willing to go with anyone but was really only a punching bag.
Anonymous User 11-13-2009, 10:06 PM Todd Fedoruk.
sarge88 11-13-2009, 10:14 PM I remember as a kid thinking that Basil McCrae seemed to lose just about every time I saw him fight.
KotsyJr 11-13-2009, 10:48 PM Man, I thought you guys were talking about Chris Kotsopoulos for a second. Because then I'd disagree. Tom Kostopoulos, though, sucks.
Haha. I'd have to come in and lay the smack down in this thread.
Also, while on the subject... I'm sick of random people asking if I'm related to Tom Kostopoulos... the name isn't even spelled the same!
I remember as a kid thinking that Basil McCrae seemed to lose just about every time I saw him fight.
From what my Dad said, Basil used to lose a TON early on in his career. Then randomly from all the beatings he became a pretty solid fighter.
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As far as some modern day stuff, I'd have to agree with Cote. He seems to be a punching bag for everyone aside from the select few mentioned in the thread.
Gino Odjick
Uh ... :huh:
Amongst Canuck players who fought semi-regularly, Dana Murzyn is the worst that I can remember. Strong as an ox, but no idea how to throw a punch. Cowan was also pretty awful.
Zach Stortini has to be one of the worst in the NHL right now.
Tealblood 11-14-2009, 12:46 AM lmao.... Oh, jeez... hahaha I get a kick out of that fight. Semin punches like my sister. Seriously.
He's built like my sister too, unless he gained some weight recently. Love the girly "pummeling" though hahaha wow that's embarassing.
People always say Shelley's one of the crappier fighters, whatcha guys think? Even worth mentioning? I think his %'s are actually decent if i remember correctly.
Kelly Buchberger
winner and champion IMO
LiveeviL 11-14-2009, 03:20 AM Jeff Cowan?
DaFranzenator 11-14-2009, 03:26 AM Andreas Lilja, guy should of never dropped the gloves with Shea Weber, he beat the piss out of him and unfortuantly he's still paying the price to this day. I will give him the victory over Patrick Sharpe though, if that can be considered a victory, lol.:laugh:
dabid 11-14-2009, 03:58 AM Andrew Alberts is pretty bad.
journeyman79 11-14-2009, 06:08 AM Kelly Chase
nik jr 11-14-2009, 07:46 AM from what i have read, terry harper fought often, even though he knew he was not a good fighter, and usually lost.
DaveG 11-14-2009, 08:04 AM one of the best non fight "fights".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cng435qQp4&feature=related
:D
If I remember the anouncers from that game they were calling for matching 10 minute penalties for "wasting everyone's time" :laugh:
Tim Conboy might be frigin crazy, but he is a pretty regular punching bag. Not as bad as some mentioned in here but I think I've only ever seen the guy win one or two fights in the NHL.
Carbo N8 11-14-2009, 10:10 AM from what i have read, terry harper fought often, even though he knew he was not a good fighter, and usually lost.
You beat me to it. I saw him get fed his lunch 3 times in one game by J. P. Parise in Kingston back in the old Eastern League.
Another former Hab that couldn't fight was Gilles Lupien. He hung on for dear life & went for the old 'take down' every time.
Pepper 11-14-2009, 10:15 AM This thread starts and ends with Steve McKenna. 6'7 and his routine was eating 4-5 hard punches before he grabbed opponents leg and went for takedown.
BobbyAwe 11-14-2009, 10:52 AM from what i have read, terry harper fought often, even though he knew he was not a good fighter, and usually lost.
You beat me to it. I would also add Bob Baun, who was always willing but not very good at it. There is a clip of him trying desperately to get at Ferguson and you've got to wonder why? All heart - not too smart.
ForgivemePrice 11-14-2009, 11:34 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDRCpN4OMpM
Alexander Semin with that trophy! :D
joe89 11-14-2009, 01:17 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDRCpN4OMpM
Alexander Semin with that trophy! :D
But, but he won on tapout :sarcasm:
InjunSteve 11-14-2009, 01:29 PM i'd have to vote for peter worrell, chris dingman, gordie dwyer, and steve webb.
worrell was the only one who showed anything fighting wise in his career, and he did it once a year. otherwise huggybear would swoop in and noogie you to death. could have been a very entertaining fighter, but he just grabbed and held for the most part.
the other guys have been discussed, all willing but just not good. pretty sure dingman and worrell used the same tactic.
BraveSirRobin 11-14-2009, 01:52 PM Dave Karpa I remember wasn't very good. He was more than willing to mix it up and defend teammates, which I admire, but goodness grief he'd more often than not be on the losing side of things.
Brassard Calder 11-14-2009, 03:04 PM Tom Kostopolous
OneMoreAstronaut 11-14-2009, 03:54 PM Ian Laperriere always struck me as a bit of a punching bag. For a good while it seemed like every time I watched a game with him in it, he'd fight and lose. Good team guy and all I've heard, but yeah.
Hyperkookeez* 11-14-2009, 04:17 PM andrew peters should be on the list
a goon who sucks at fighting...terrible
sleeper cab 11-14-2009, 06:25 PM Zack Stortini
LiveeviL 11-14-2009, 07:23 PM Zack Stortini
No fan of him, but he is in no way in the category "worst".
BigT2002 11-14-2009, 10:38 PM Semin
td_ice 11-14-2009, 11:01 PM Jay Caufield for Penguins, late '80's and early '90's. I can't remember him ever winning a fight, cause he had no balance whatsoever.
College football player, turned hockey player.
Horrible enforcer.
Good guy though. Host a Pen's post game show. Is a trainer for several hockey players. Trained Mario Lemieux during his comeback. Appeared in the movie "Sudden Death" as a goalie.
SuicideKings15 11-14-2009, 11:07 PM This thread starts and ends with Steve McKenna. 6'7 and his routine was eating 4-5 hard punches before he grabbed opponents leg and went for takedown.
Ugh, he wore the 'C' in Pittsburgh for a game back in 03, I believe...
flames123 11-15-2009, 01:16 AM olli jokinen, any see his "fight" tonight?
flames123 11-15-2009, 01:21 AM spot wasting our time with vids we've seen a million times
BamBamCam8 11-15-2009, 01:28 AM No fan of him, but he is in no way in the category "worst".
Hes afraid to get hit, making him the worst fighter in the league, very deserving of the grand title of "Huggy Bear"
Bring_Bak_Damphousse 11-15-2009, 03:39 AM According to DYG, Kostopoulos has 52 career NHL fight and he has only won 2 of them.:help:
I call ********...there's no way Kosto won 2 fights :sarcasm:
Kostopolos is a god awful fighter but you'll be hard pressed to find a more willing combatant. Funny how that works
Bring_Bak_Damphousse 11-15-2009, 03:41 AM I'd probably have to say Riley Cote. He is tough (maybe the toughest guy in the league, pound for pound) and goes out there and will drop 'em with anyone, but he doesn't always win. In fact he rarely wins. But he always gets the team energized, he is just under sized. Worst fighter of all time, whose role it is isn't to fight...
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'Nuff said.
And all Orr can do is shake his head. :shakehead
Ralph 11-15-2009, 04:24 AM Matt Greene and David Koci.
Dolemite 11-15-2009, 04:39 AM No fan of him, but he is in no way in the category "worst".
He was when he first started fighting. He was nick named 'huggy bear' for a reason.
Aaron Voros or Ryan Hollweg has my vote. I'm young and haven't seen much compared to some of the older ones, but they suck! They just suck at fightning.
Voros is slow. Slow punches and slow dodges. lol His arms are like two feet long anyway...
Hollweg just leaves his face open the whole fight Seems like he always hits his opponent's shoulders when he "lands" his punches. The only fight I've think he won was when he fought Ryan Carter in 2008... :handclap:
Why it took 39 posts to say Ryan Hollweg is beyond me...someone mentions worst fighter, first name I think is Hollweg...my god he was awful. He beat a lot of guys hands up with his face...and boy was he good at it too.
td_ice 11-15-2009, 09:45 AM Not sure if anyone has mentioned Matt Bradley. Certainly not an enforcer, but he scraps from time to time. Anytime I have seen him fight it seems he gets crushed.
MakoSlade 11-15-2009, 10:44 AM Maybe I've only seen the "lowlights", but I saw Jim Cummins get beaten bloody a lot. He would throw 'em and entertain, but he got beaten horribly too many times.
LiveeviL 11-16-2009, 02:45 AM He was when he first started fighting. He was nick named 'huggy bear' for a reason.
Anyway, he'll beat Jeff Cowan even if Cowan got a chainsaw.
http://www2.pjstar.com/images/uploads/cowanphoto_thumb.jpg
Mac Man 11-18-2009, 12:27 PM Olli Jokinen gets my vote after that beating he got from Orr the other night.
GO AVS GO
majormet 11-18-2009, 04:59 PM Not sure if anyone has mentioned Matt Bradley. Certainly not an enforcer, but he scraps from time to time. Anytime I have seen him fight it seems he gets crushed.
Matt Bradley may be the worst, Voros bloodied him bad last night.
Garry Howatt was a horrible fighter in his day, he was the Kostopolous of his era.
Barnaby, McKenna, Hollweg and Webb are up there too.
bruinsfan46 11-18-2009, 07:10 PM Garry Howatt was a horrible fighter in his day, he was the Kostopolous of his era.
That's just isn't even close to being right. Howatt was an undersized guy that was very tough and won many, many fights. The same can't be said for Kostopolous.
Professor Dangles 11-18-2009, 07:18 PM I was going to say Semin but then I remembered he made Staal turtle.
majormet 11-19-2009, 11:10 AM That's just isn't even close to being right. Howatt was an undersized guy that was very tough and won many, many fights. The same can't be said for Kostopolous.
Being an islanders fan since their inception, Howatt was terrible, he only was able to beat Dave Farrish of the Rangers for the most part, always drew the other team's middleweight fighter, fought Dave Schultz a lot, but he would lose to skills players, although skills players in the 1970's outside of Mike Bossy and Darryl Sittler could fight.
Ward Cornell 11-19-2009, 11:21 AM Reggie Fleming!
Please keep in mind that this thread is about players who's job it was to fight.
Semin?....I don't think so!
PuttinOnTheFoil624 11-19-2009, 11:29 AM Steve Webb was another willing punching bag for a couple of seasons.
he's the first player off the top of my head.
Mathias 11-19-2009, 12:53 PM Olli Jokinen gets my vote after that beating he got from Orr the other night.
Though, Jokinen's job is not exactly to go out and fight heavyweights.
Nick Kypreos.
haha :handclap:
Titan124 11-19-2009, 05:44 PM Steve Webb hit like a Mack Truck.. But he was a terrible fighter.
I'll always love him. 5'10 205 and completely fearless.
SaveHextall 11-19-2009, 05:51 PM Claude Boivin learned pretty quick he didnt have a clue how to fight at the NHL level.
StrictlyCommercial 11-19-2009, 05:54 PM Jeff Cowan was terrible.
The Dayvan Cowboy 11-19-2009, 06:30 PM Everyone who was unfortunate enough not to be named Rick Rypien.
Major4Boarding 11-19-2009, 08:15 PM Mick Vukota
Fighter 11-19-2009, 08:41 PM Chris Dingman and the unbeatable Steve "Big Bird" McKenna: the first was a human huggy-bear while McKenna simply couldn't stay on his skate to save his life.
Jay Caufield was terrible too.
Joey24 12-01-2009, 12:29 PM Being an islanders fan since their inception, Howatt was terrible, he only was able to beat Dave Farrish of the Rangers for the most part, always drew the other team's middleweight fighter, fought Dave Schultz a lot, but he would lose to skills players, although skills players in the 1970's outside of Mike Bossy and Darryl Sittler could fight.
Sittler could throw them pretty good what are you talking about?
Any how my vote goes to the useless Nick Kypreos. Want to talk about getting your ass handed to you on a nightly basis, well this guy had it down to a tee...
Ceux de Montreal 12-01-2009, 01:06 PM Seconded. He tries...he really does. But when he comes to the aid of a teammate it's like a rabbit trying to save a mouse from getting eaten by a lion.
That image gave me a good chuckle
buffalowing88 12-01-2009, 03:46 PM Adam Mair. The guy is excellent at allowing opponents to tire themselves out while punching him in the face. Classic example is a scuffle he had with Tootoo back in 07-08. I can think of 4 or 5 more though in which he literally looks intoxicated, swinging around and leaving his face totally unprotected. Nice guy, hard worker, but tough to watch fight.
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