World Championship Rosters

Robertsson 4-ever
04-06-2004, 09:17 AM
It would be nice to see what players the top countires will have in World Champs, and how the rosters look at the moment (without all NHL additions). I assume most contries, just like Sweden, plays friendlies with preliminary rosters at the moment.

Robertsson 4-ever
04-06-2004, 09:27 AM
Here is Swedens roster as it looks a the moment:

Goaltenders:
Stefan Liv, HV 71 (Detroit)
Daniel Henriksson, Luleå

Defense:
Johan Fransson, Luleå (2004 eligable)
Mats Hansson, Timrå
Magnus Johansson, Langnau
Thomas Johansson, Linköping
Sanny Lindström, Timrå (Colorado)
Thomas Rhodin, Fribourg
Ronnie Sundin, Frölunda

Offense:
Niklas Andersson, Frölunda
Johan Franzen, Linköping
Yared Hagos, Timrå (Dallas)
Jonathan Hedström, Djurgården (Anaheim)
Jonas Höglund, Davos
Magnus Kahnberg, Frölunda (Carolina)
Magnus Nilsson, Luleå (Detroit)
Niklas Nordgren, Timrå (Carolina)
Jonas Rönnqvist, Luleå (Anaheim)
Andreas Salomonsson, Modo (Washington)
Fredrik Sjöström, Phoenix Coyotes
Alexander Steen, Frölunda (Toronto)
Christian Söderström, Timrå (Detroit)


Player in bold have a really good chance to make the final roster, the players in Italic have to impress in the pre-games, and also depends on who will be avaliable from the NHL. Likly Samuel Påhlsson, Kristian Huselius and Niclas Hävelid will join from NA.

The team doesn't include players playing the final series in Sweden, and at leats three forwards will join from these teams (Jönsson, Nordström, Davidsson).

Zine
04-06-2004, 10:05 AM
I know that Kovalchuk, Morozov and Kalinin will play for Russia.

I don't understant Czech, but the hokej.cz website is mentioning these players: Cechmanek, Spacek, Kaberle, Modry, Rachunek, Skoula, Kuba, Melichar, Prospal, Sykora, Vyborny, Kraft, Straka, Dvorak, Hemsky, Hlavac and Jagr.

http://www.hokej.cz/index.php?akce=clanek&webid=259&id=20931

Jyssy
04-09-2004, 06:45 AM
Four players from HIFK are added to finnish camp: Jere Karalahti, Toni Söderholm, Timo Pärssinen and Kimmo Kuhta

Rabid Ranger
04-09-2004, 08:10 AM
The only player I know for sure that is on the U.S. team at this point is Ty Conklin from the Edmonton Oilers.

Robertsson 4-ever
04-09-2004, 08:46 AM
The Swedish roster has been changed since Påhlsson, Tjärnqvist, Tärnström and Hävelid have arrived from NHL. A lot of cuts have been made, I wish we do as you do in Finland, and go with big rosters with much competition. Now there are only three (!) lines on the team, although additions are waiting from the SEL final teams, but offensive threats like Alex Steen and Niklas Nordgren could need the experience with team even if they not make the final roster. Anyway, here is how it looks at the moment (At leats according to Aftonbladet, can't find the cut anywhere eles, but they have talked to Ulf Dahlen, ass coach, so I assume it's right):

Henrik Lundqvist, Frölunda
Daniel Henriksson, Luleå

Thomas Johansson, Linköping
Ronnie Sundin, Frölunda
Thomas Rhodin, Freiburg
Dick Tärnström, Pittsburgh
Daniel Tjärnqvist, Atlanta
Niclas Hävelid, Anaheim

Jonas Höglund, Davos
Jonas Rönnqvist, Luleå
Magnus Nilsson, Timrå
Samuel Påhlsson, Anaheim
Fredrik Sjöström, Phoenix
Johan Franzen, Linköping
Jonathan Hedström, Djurgården
Magnus Kahnberg, Frölunda
Niklas Andersson, Frölunda

Rabid Ranger
04-09-2004, 02:23 PM
Here's the U.S. roster thus far: http://www.usahockey.com/usa_hockey/main/home/04mwc_17names_040904//


Not to bad:


2004 United States Men’s National Team

GOALTENDERS (3)
No. Name Ht. (cm) Wt. (kg) Birthdate S/C Birthplace 2003-04 Team
29 Ty Conklin 6-0 (184) 180 (82) 3/30/76 L Anchorage, Alaska Edmonton Oilers (NHL)
1 Mike Dunham 6-3 (190) 195 (88.5) 6/1/72 L Johnson City, N.Y. New York Rangers (NHL)
32 Alex Westlund 5-10 (179) 180 (82) 12/28/75 R Flemington Village, N.J. Yaroslavl Lokomotiv (Russian Elite League)

DEFENSEMEN (4)
2 Brett Hauer 6-2 (189) 205 (93) 7/11/71 R Edina, Minn. Geneva-Servette (Swiss National League)
34 Jeff Jillson 6-3 (190) 220 (100) 7/24/80 R North Smithfield, R.I. Buffalo Sabres (NHL)
-- Paul Mara 6-4 (193) 218 (99) 9/7/79 L Ridgewood, N.Y. Phoenix Coyotes (NHL)
3 Aaron Miller 6-4 (193) 210 (95.5) 8/11/71 R Buffalo, N.Y. Los Angeles Kings (NHL)

FORWARDS (10)
13 Bates Battaglia 6-2 (189) 210 (95.5) 12/13/75 L Chicago, Ill. Washington Capitals (NHL)
9 Dustin Brown 6-0 (184) 200 (91) 11/4/84 R Ithaca, N.Y. Los Angeles Kings (NHL)
17 Matt Cullen 6-3 (193) 218 (99) 11/2/76 L Virginia, Minn. Florida Panthers (NHL)
23 Chris Drury 5-10 (179) 180 (82) 8/20/76 R Trumbull, Conn. Buffalo Sabres (NHL)
25 Mike Grier 6-1 (186) 220 (100) 6/21/77 R Mannheim, Germany Buffalo Sabres (NHL)
11 Jeff Halpern 6-0 (184) 201 (91.5) 5/3/76 R Potomac, Md. Washington Capitals (NHL)
12 Ryan Malone 6-4 (193) 215 (97.5) 12/1/79 L Pittsburgh, Pa. Pittsburgh Penguins (NHL)
18 Richard Park 5-11 (181) 190 (86.5) 5/27/76 R Seoul, South Korea Minnesota Wild (NHL)
6 Andy Roach 5-11 (181) 181 (82.5) 8/22/73 R Mattawan, Mich. Mannheim Eagles (German Elite League)
7 Erik Westrum 6-0 (184) 204 (92) 7/26/79 L Minneapolis, Minn. Phoenix Coyotes (NHL)

Predatore
04-09-2004, 02:27 PM
I think that roster looks pretty strong (the american one).
I look forward to see Dustin Brown and Ryan Malone play on the larger surface.
The only players I am unfamiliar with are goalie Alex Westlund and forward Andy Roach.

Rabid Ranger
04-09-2004, 02:30 PM
I think that roster looks pretty strong (the american one).
I look forward to see Dustin Brown and Ryan Malone play on the larger surface.
The only players I am unfamiliar with are goalie Alex Westlund and forward Andy Roach.



It's light years ahead of last years roster. It looks like there are at least two forward and three defensemen slots to fill, which could make things even better. Good, possibly great goaltending, a mobile, offensive defense, and some very quick skilled forwards make things half way promising.

Rabid Ranger
04-09-2004, 02:36 PM
Pretty decent size too, and many heavy shots...

Yeah, I'm pretty pleased. It's nice these guys want to play for their country and realize what's at stake. This is team capable of medaling IMO.

Robertsson 4-ever
04-09-2004, 02:51 PM
The only players I am unfamiliar with are goalie Alex Westlund and forward Andy Roach.

Alex Westlund have been around the lower leagues in NA for some time, didn't know hi was in Russia now though. I researched some 'cause I thought he might be swedish some seasons ago. :joker:

Herby
04-09-2004, 07:34 PM
Chris Drury, Paul Mara and Aaron Miller are likely bubble guys for the World Cup Team in September, Miller and Drury both made the 02 Olympic team and should make the World Cup with a strong WC's. As we have seen with Team Canada, expect to see alot of good players commit to play in this tourney in hopes it will boost their stock for the World Cup. One look at Team USA's roster last year, in a non-World Cup year proves this, there wasn't much incentive to play for the better players.

If Dallas losses in the first round, obviously guys like Guerin and Modano wouldn't have to play in the Worlds to earn a World Cup spot, but if Calgary losses you'd better bet going to the Worlds would help out guys like Craig Conroy and Jordan Leopold earn World Cup spots.

mikkoz
04-10-2004, 04:09 AM
USA looks better than ever in world champs, anything to do with world cup?

G
Ty Conklin (Edmonton Oilers)
Mike Dunham (New York Rangers)
Alex Westlund (Yaroslavl Lokomotiv)

D
Jeff Jillson (Buffalo Sabres)
Paul Mara (Phoenix Coyotes)
Aaron Miller (Los Angeles Kings)
Brett Hauer (Geneva-Servette)

F
Bates Battaglia (Washington Capitals)
Dustin Brown (Los Angeles Kings)
Matt Cullen (Florida Panthers)
Chris Drury (Buffalo Sabres)
Jeff Halpern (Washington Capitals)
Ryan Malone (Pittsburgh Penguins)
Richard Park (Minnesota Wild)
Erik Westrum (Phoenix Coyotes)
Andy Roach (Mannheim Eagles)
Mike Grier (Buffalo Sabres)

Sputnik
04-10-2004, 04:33 AM
andy roach of mannheim is a small speedy d´man(!) often used up front. he´s one of the most versatile players in DEL (german league). great player!

mikkoz
04-12-2004, 09:18 AM
Apologies to Rabid Ranger, don´t no how i didn´t notice your team USA post.

Well here is Finnish team roster in game against Denmark at tuesday 13.4.

Goalies:
Noronen Mika, Buffalo Sabres
Norrena Fredrik, Linköpings HC

Defence:
Haakana Kari, MODO Örnsköldsvik
Karalahti Jere, HIFK
Korhonen Jari, JYP
Mäntylä Tuukka, Luleå HF
Niemi Antti-Jussi, V.Frölunda Göteborg
Porkka Toni, Lukko
Saravo Pekka, Tappara
Söderholm Toni, HIFK

Forwards:
Hagman Niklas, Florida Panthers
Hentunen Jukka, HC Fribourg-Gotteron
Immonen Jarkko, JYP Jyväskylä
Kallio Tomi, V.Frölunda Göteborg
Kuhta Kimmo, HIFK
Laaksonen Antti, Minnesota Wild
Pakaslahti Petri, Jokerit Helsinki
Pirjetä Lasse, Pittsburgh Penguins
Pirnes Esa, Los Angeles Kings
Pärssinen Timo, HIFK
Rintanen Kimmo, Flyers Kloten
Virta Tony, HPK

The following players wont be joining the team against Denmark:

Rajamäki Erkki, Ilves
Dahlman Toni, Ilves
Markkanen Jussi, Edmonton Oilers

Olli Jokinen joins the team 17.4. and plays against Sweden in Euro Hockey Tour –Final game, Fin-Swe, in Hartwall Arena at sunday 18.4. klo 18.00.

Link - http://www.finhockey.fi/taustasivut/artikkeliarkisto/?num=62770

Canada Girl
04-12-2004, 07:30 PM
Adjustment made to Team Canada roster: Andy Sutton is out because of injury, and Steve Staios and JP Dumont are in.

http://www.tsn.ca/canadian_hockey/news_story.asp?id=79926

Robertsson 4-ever
04-13-2004, 01:30 AM
Johan Davidsson, Jörgen Jönsson, Mattias Remstam, Andreas Salomonsson (Forwards) Jonas Frögren, Per Hållberg (D-men) have been added to the swedish roster.

Roster:
G: Liv, Lundqvist, Henriksson
D: Tärnström, Tjärnqvist, Hävelid, T Johansson, R Sundin, Hållberg, Frögren, Rhodin
C: Jönsson, Davidsson, Påhlsson, Franzen
W: Höglund, Salomonsson, Kahnberg, N Andersson, Hedström, Sjöström, Rönnqvist, M Nilsson, Remstam

Rob
04-13-2004, 06:35 AM
I think both Canada and the US will have very strong teams this year because of players wanting to make make a good impression so they can be selected to the World Cup. Most years the US team is so weak that it faces regulation. Even Canada has had problems getting players in the past.

Could we see our first North American final?

Karsten
04-13-2004, 08:04 AM
Denmark's WC roster

Goaltenders
Jan Jensen, Esbjerg
Michael Madsen, Herlev
Peter Hirsch, Rungsted (Malmö Redhawks, SEL - next season)

Defensemen
Andreas Andreasen, Esbjerg
Christian Schioldan, Frederikshavn
Dan Jensen, Herning
Daniel Nielsen, Herning
Frederik Åkesson, Aalborg
Jesper Damgaard, MoDo (Sweden, SEL)
Jesper Duus, Herlev
Morten Dahlmann, Rungsted

Forwards
Alexander Sundberg, Odense
Bent Christensen, Odense
Bo Nordby, AaB
Frans Nielsen, Malmö (Sweden, SEL)
Jens Nielsen, Leksand (Sweden, SEL)
Kim Staal, Malmö (Sweden, SEL)
Mads True, Odense
Michael Smidt, AaB
Mike Grey, Frederikshavn
Morten Green, MoDo (Sweden, SEL)
Nicolas Monberg, Rungsted
Ronny Larsen, AaB
Thor Dresler, Herlev
Kasper Degn, Herning

Karsten
04-13-2004, 08:09 AM
Team Switzerland - update 13 April

Team Switzerland starts its training camp today (located in Wintherhur, Switzerland). The team plays two exhibition games vs Denmark on 15 and 17 April (both at home ground)

Goaltenders
Marco Bührer (Bern)
Martin Gerber (Anaheim, NHL)
Ronnie Rüeger (Lugano)
Simon Züger (Ambri)

Defensemen
Beat Forster (Davos)
Lukas Gerber (Fribourg)
Andreas Hänni (Lugano)
Steve Hirschi (Lugano)
David Jobin (Bern)
Olivier Keller (Lugano)
Reto Kobach (Ambri)
Mathias Seger (ZSC Lions)
Martin Steinegger (Bern)
Mark Streit (ZSC Lions)

Forwards
Andres Ambühl (Davos)
Goran Bezina (Springfield, ECHL)
Luca Cereda (Bern)
Flavien Conne (Lugano)
Patric Della Rossa (ZSC Lions)
Patrick Fischer (Zug)
Sandy Jeannin (Lugano)
Marcel Jenni (Färjestads BK, Sweden)
Thibaut Monnet (SCL TIGERS)
Patrick Oppliger (Zug)
Thierry Paterlini (Davos),
Martin Plüss (Kloten)
Marc Reichert (Kloten)
Ivo Rüthemann (Bern)
Daniel Steiner (SCL TIGERS)
Adrian Wichser (Lugano)
Valentin Wirz (Fribourg)
Thomas Ziegler (Bern).

link: http://www.sehv.ch/d/news/

Karsten
04-13-2004, 08:13 AM
Team Germany - roster as of 13 April

Olaf Kölzig (Washington Capitals) and Jochen Hecht (Buffalo) will participate in the WC for Germany. Here is Germany's roster as of 13 April. The roster has no players from Frankfurt Lions and Berlin Eisbären since these teams currently are playing for the German championship. The figures in parantheses denotes GP, G, A and P for Team Germany.

Goaltenders
37. Olaf Kölzig, Washington Capitals, NHL. (16 - 0 - 0 - 0)
40. Alexander Jung, Düsseldorf Metro Stars (20 - 0 - 0 - 0)
80. Robert Müller, Krefeld Penguine (63 - 0 - 0 - 0)

Defensemen
2. Jochen Molling, Adler Mannheim (114 - 1 - 5 - 6)
9. Heiko Smazal, Hamburg Freezers (43 - 2 - 5 - 7)
12. Mirko Lüdemann, Kölner Haie (116 - 13 - 20 - 33)
31. Andreas Renz, Kölner Haie (91 - 3 - 2 - 5)
36. Erich Goldmann, iserlohn Roosters (109 - 5 - 8 - 13)
41. Daniel Kunce, Krefeld Penguine (94 - 7 - 9 - 16)
58. Lasse Kopitz, Nürnberg Ice Tigers (25 - 5 - 7 - 12)
76. Stephan Retzer, Kassel Huskies (33 - 3 - 5 - 8)
83. Jan Benda, AK Bars Kazan, Russia (141 - 29 - 36 - 65)

Forwards
17. Jochen Hecht, Buffalo Sabres, NHL (50 - 11 - 5 - 16)
21. Stefan Ustorf, Krefeld Penguine (81 - 12 - 10 - 22)
26. Daniel Kreutzer, Düsseldorf Metro Stars (103 - 22 - 22 - 44)
27. Tobias Abstreiter, Kassel Huskies (101 - 10 - 26 - 36)
32. Tomas Martinec, Adler Mannheim (30 - 5 - 1 - 6)
34. Eduard Lewandowski, Kölner Haie (49 - 4 - 9 - 13)
39. Thomas Greilinger, Nürnberg Ice Tigers (50 - 9 - 12 - 21)
47. Christoph Ullmann, Adler Mannheim (8 - 2 - 1 - 3)
49. Klaus Kathan, Adler Mannheim (105 - 24 - 27 - 51)
55. Boris Blank, Kölner Haie (44 - 5 - 3 - 8)
72. Petr Fical, Nürnberg Ice Tigers (6 - 0 - 2 - 2)
73. Tino Boos, Kölner Haie (53 - 11 - 10 - 21)
75. Andreas Morczinietz, Kölner Haie (44 - 9 - 10 - 19)

Germany will play three more exhibition games before the World Championship - two against Austria (15 and 17 April) and one against USA (21 April).

link: Hockeyweb.de, Phase III der WM-Vorbereitung mit Olaf Kölzig und Jochen Hecht (http://www.hockeyweb.de/index.php?action=ART&aNr=4699)

cagney
04-13-2004, 10:38 PM
I just visited your International Hockey Gang message boards and I must say that you do a great job there. Anyone from HF who hasn't checked it out should (link below). We have a good group of international posters here at HF but for the most part the international section here is subsidiary the NHL topics above. It's also great to see a "true" international board where the posters have respect for each other. The only other international message board I've really seen is at IHWC.net and some of the messages there are just so mean spirited (especially when you're an American hockey fan) that I never had the desire to post there. I've signed up to your message board and put it in my favorites so hopefully I'll make a good addition. :)

International Hockey Gang (http://inthockeygang.proboards23.com/index.cgi)

Karsten
04-14-2004, 05:06 PM
Thanks Cagney. What actually got the whole thing started was a reaction to all the flaming in the IHWC forums. Originally, we were around 15 web friends from ten countries who had a mutual interest in international hockey and wanted to learn more about other countries' players, leagues and hockey programs. We have been around since 2001, mostly in the IHWC forums which also existed after the world championship. Last Autumn, the IHWC.net didn't work properly, and we decided to create to own forum and web site. We are now 50 members from fourteen countries, and in these days up to the World Championship we are getting new members every day. Thanks for joining!

Predatore
04-15-2004, 08:23 AM
Post rosters, talk about rosters.. etc here

***


GROUP A
Czech Republic
Germany
Latvia
Kazakhstan

GROUP B
Slovakia
Finland
Ukraine
USA

GROUP C
Sweden
Russia
Denmark
Japan

GROUP D
Canada
Switzerland
Austria
France

***

jonas_bay
04-17-2004, 01:49 PM
Swiss WC-roster have been announced:

Goalie:
44 Marco Bührer (Bern)
26 Martin Gerber (Anaheim/NHL)
1 Ronnie Rüeger (Lugano)
Defence:
29 Beat Forster (Davos)
33 Steve Hirschi (Lugano)
22 Olivier Keller (Lugano)
9 Reto Kobach (Ambrì)
31 Mathias Seger (ZSC Lions)
11 Martin Steinegger (Bern)
7 Mark Streit (ZSC Lions)
3 Julien Vauclair (Binghamton/AHL)
Offense:
16 Andres Ambühl (Davos)
57 Goran Bezina (Springfield/AHL)
18 Luca Cereda (Bern)
12 Patric Della Rossa (ZSC Lions)
21 Patrick Fischer (Zug)
35 Sandy Jeannin (Lugano)
30 Marcel Jenni (Färjestad/SWE)
23 Thierry Paterlini (Davos)
28 Martin Plüss (Kloten)
36 Marc Reichert (Kloten)
32 Ivo Rüthemann (Bern)
97 Adrian Wichser (Lugano)
27 Valentin Wirz (Fribourg)
38 Thomas Ziegler (Bern)

A littel bit uncertain are Jenni, because he's not fit yet and Vauclair because the Senators didn't let him go yet.

VanCanuck
04-17-2004, 02:26 PM
Swiss WC-roster have been announced:

Goalie:
44 Marco Bührer (Bern)
26 Martin Gerber (Anaheim/NHL)
1 Ronnie Rüeger (Lugano)
Defence:
29 Beat Forster (Davos)
33 Steve Hirschi (Lugano)
22 Olivier Keller (Lugano)
9 Reto Kobach (Ambrì)
31 Mathias Seger (ZSC Lions)
11 Martin Steinegger (Bern)
7 Mark Streit (ZSC Lions)
3 Julien Vauclair (Binghamton/AHL)???
Offense:
16 Andres Ambühl (Davos)
57 Goran Bezina (Springfield/AHL)
18 Luca Cereda (Bern)
12 Patric Della Rossa (ZSC Lions)
21 Patrick Fischer (Zug)
35 Sandy Jeannin (Lugano)
30 Marcel Jenni (Färjestad/SWE)
23 Thierry Paterlini (Davos)
28 Martin Plüss (Kloten)
36 Marc Reichert (Kloten)
32 Ivo Rüthemann (Bern)
97 Adrian Wichser (Lugano)
27 Valentin Wirz (Fribourg)
38 Thomas Ziegler (Bern)

A littel bit uncertain are Jenni, because he's not fit yet and Vauclair because the Senators didn't let him go yet.

Vaulcair won't play to WC just like Germany's Schubert. The Sens don't let them go because Binghampton needs them for the AHL playoffs.

Fedz
04-17-2004, 02:27 PM
GROUP A
Czech Republic
Germany
Latvia
Kazakhstan

GROUP D
Canada
Switzerland
Austria
France

Looks like they are going to have some fun.

Sputnik
04-17-2004, 02:33 PM
Vaulcair won't play to WC just like Germany's Schubert. The Sens don't let them go because Binghampton needs them for the AHL playoffs. not quite right. binghamton is out of play-off-race after giving up two games straight to norfolk (0-3 each).
and since the big sens are facing elimination, too, there should be no problems for schubert and vauclair joining their respective national teams.

VanCanuck
04-17-2004, 02:34 PM
Players in the finnish camp this far, I am not sure who has left because of the NHL players arriving...:

GK
Mika Lehto, Tappara
Juha Pitkämäki, Ilves
Fredrik Norrena, Linköping
Mika Noronen, Buffalo Sabres
Jussi Markkanen, Edmonton Oilers

D
Kari Haakana, MoDo
Tuukka Mäntylä, Luulaja
Janne Niskala, Lukko
Toni Porkka, Lukko
Pekka Saravo, Tappara
Pasi Puistola, Tappara
Jere Karalahti, HIFK
Toni Söderholm, HÌFK
F:
Olli Ahonen, Blues
Teemu Elomo, Blues
Toni Dahlman, Ilves
Janne Hauhtonen, JYP
Jukka Hentunen, Friborg
Jarkko Immonen, JYP
Petri Pakaslahti, Jokerit
Jaakko Ühlbäck
Kimmo Rintanen, Kloten
Tomek Valtonen, Jokerit
Sami Venäläinen, Tappara
Antti Virtanen, JYP
Esa Pirnes, Los Angeles Kings
Niklas Hagman, Florida Panthers
Antti Laaksonen, Minnesota Wild
Lasse Pirjetä, Pittsburgh Penguins
Timo Pärssinen, HIFK
Kimmo Kuhta, HIFK

What about Ruutu, will he play in Prague?

Thanks

VanCanuck
04-17-2004, 02:37 PM
I think that roster looks pretty strong (the american one).
I look forward to see Dustin Brown and Ryan Malone play on the larger surface.
The only players I am unfamiliar with are goalie Alex Westlund and forward Andy Roach.


Andy Roach plays for the Mannheim Eagels of the DEL. He is listed as a defender.

for some stats: www.adler-mannheim.de ( OK , it's in german ;) )

endacka
04-18-2004, 02:55 AM
GROUP A
Czech Republic
Germany
Latvia
Kazakhstan

GROUP D
Canada
Switzerland
Austria
France

Looks like they are going to have some fun.


Yes, for Czechs it looks like 15 + goals after the first group is finished. This, however, might be disadvatage because team does not meet any strong opponent before the quatrefinals and might be,! no, this will NOT happen to us!, eliminated.

endacka
04-18-2004, 03:26 AM
The final roster could looks like this

Vokoun
Cechmanek
Salficky

Spacek - Hamrlik
F. Kaberle - Skoula
Modry - Novak

Hlavac - Straka - Jagr
Elias - Prospal - Dvorak
Vasicek - Dopita - Hemsky
Sup - Beranek - Klepis(Prucha)


IF Elias and Vokoun accept the invitatin.

Takkie
04-18-2004, 07:50 AM
that czech team looks good

endacka
04-18-2004, 08:13 AM
that czech team looks good


Yes, but still not sure if Vokoun and Eli come. Kraft is there as well, I have totally forgotten about him, sorry, he might make the final roster.

mikkoz
04-18-2004, 08:16 AM
The final roster could looks like this

Vokoun
Cechmanek
Salficky

Spacek - Hamrlik
F. Kaberle - Skoula
Modry - Novak

Hlavac - Straka - Jagr
Elias - Prospal - Dvorak
Vasicek - Dopita - Hemsky
Sup - Beranek - Klepis(Prucha)


IF Elias and Vokoun accept the invitatin.

Well dont you think they´re waitin´ for Havlat, Bonk and perhaps Varada?

endacka
04-18-2004, 11:27 AM
Well dont you think they´re waitin´ for Havlat, Bonk and perhaps Varada?


Oh yes, Havlat would be great but the roster is already overcrowded by NHLers. Lener said that he will wait how the series end, so sole of the players might arrive just for the quatrefinal, semi and final. Yes final! :yo:

12# Peter Bondra
04-18-2004, 11:30 AM
The Slovak Team (with Ottawa nad Montreal )

Lasak
Krizan
Budaj

Strbak-Chara
Majesky-Mezei
Lintner-Cierny

Gaborik-Demitra-Hossa
Bondra-Stumpel-Satan
Ronald Petrovicky-Robert Petrovicky-Zednik
Orzsagh-Pavlikovsky-Bartecko

The lines aren't organised by theri positions and it is not the final roster but my idea of the roster.

DJ Spinoza
04-18-2004, 11:37 AM
Yeah, I read Melichar was cut officially from the Czech team today. And that Kraft is still there and could make the team. I hope he makes it. He had a great year this year and I think it would be a nice reward.

danista
04-18-2004, 01:08 PM
Updates on Team Germany:

Goaltenders
1. Oliver Jonas, Eisbären Berlin
37. Olaf Kölzig, Washington Capitals, NHL
80. Robert Müller, Krefeld Penguine

Defensemen
2. Jochen Molling, Adler Mannheim
5. Robert Leask, Eisbären Berlin
9. Heiko Smazal, Hamburg Freezers
12. Mirko Lüdemann, Kölner Haie
31. Andreas Renz, Kölner Haie
41. Daniel Kunce, Krefeld Penguine
76. Stephan Retzer, Kassel Huskies
83. Jan Benda, AK Bars Kazan, Russia

Forwards
11. Sven Felski, Eisbären Berlin
17. Jochen Hecht, Buffalo Sabres, NHL
21. Stefan Ustorf, Krefeld Penguine
22. Martin Reichel, Frankfurt Lions
26. Daniel Kreutzer, Düsseldorf Metro Stars
27. Tobias Abstreiter, Kassel Huskies
32. Tomas Martinec, Adler Mannheim
34. Eduard Lewandowski, Kölner Haie
39. Thomas Greilinger, Nürnberg Ice Tigers
47. Christoph Ullmann, Adler Mannheim
49. Klaus Kathan, Adler Mannheim
55. Boris Blank, Kölner Haie
73. Tino Boos, Kölner Haie
75. Andreas Morczinietz, Kölner Haie

danista
04-18-2004, 01:24 PM
Do you think Germany is so easy to beat? Last year only 0-4 in a hard battle and 2001 it was 2-2. Germany almost beat Team Canada in Quarterfinals last year, too.

Raimo Sillanpää
04-19-2004, 01:17 AM
Latvia isn't such an easy pushover either. They've generally always been pleasurable to watch and can provide an intensity that the likes of Kazakhstan can't.

Peter25
04-19-2004, 03:09 AM
Patrik Elias is coming to play for the Czechs. Elias is IMO the best left winger in the NHL with Kovalchuk right now.

The first line could be a big threat: Elias - Straka - Jagr.

Czechs are my favourites to win, but anything can happen.

Peter25
04-19-2004, 03:13 AM
Alexei Yashin and Oleg Kvasha are coming to play for Russia. Good news for team Russia.

But WHY isn´t Zherdev playing? I would have loved to see the best teenage hockey player in the world to play for team Russia. Kovalchuk, Zherdev, Ovechkin....Well, I guess I have to settle for just Ovy and Kovo... :)

GKJ
04-19-2004, 06:47 AM
Latvia isn't such an easy pushover either. They've generally always been pleasurable to watch and can provide an intensity that the likes of Kazakhstan can't.

Is Latvia going to send some younger players, I know during the olympics many of their players were just older players who have been around since Soviet Union days. It looks like they won't get Karlis Skrastins because he is in the playoffs for Colorado, but does anyone know if Ozolinsh or Irbe will go?

Alexei Yashin and Oleg Kvasha are coming to play for Russia. Good news for team Russia.

But WHY isn´t Zherdev playing? I would have loved to see the best teenage hockey player in the world to play for team Russia. Kovalchuk, Zherdev, Ovechkin....Well, I guess I have to settle for just Ovy and Kovo... :)

Zherdev and Russia have much animosity towards each other now with that whole Russian transfer deal and Zherdev skipping his military commitment. Just a hunch from me, but I would be suprised if Zherdev EVER plays for the Russian national team within the next 6-10 years if not ever again

skatman
04-19-2004, 07:27 AM
Zherdev and Russia have much animosity towards each other now with that whole Russian transfer deal and Zherdev skipping his military commitment. Just a hunch from me, but I would be suprised if Zherdev EVER plays for the Russian national team within the next 6-10 years if not ever again



In his interview on March 12, 2004 with Dmitry Pavlovich from Soviet Sport
Nikolai Zherdev talks about his trial and other stuff:
-Yes I had to go to Switzerland and stand before judge. I had to miss two games because of that. Preparations also took some time. I had to meet with lawyers, answer many questions, sign papers. All day business – then game at night, I was so tired and not focused! I am glad it’s all over now. I knew that Russian side had no chance. Right after the court I flew back to the US. Switzerland was nice
though. CSKA and RHL representatives I didn’t see nor heard before the judge, but I had very warm conversation with CSKA vise-president Valery Guschin. We greeted each other, but didn’t talk for long wich was unfortunate because I had
few questions to ask him. I am glad that everyone can see that I was right and I was not in Russian Army.
I still want to represent Russia on international stage. I hope all this will be behind and I will have a chance to play for Team Russia again. It is unfortunate
that I missed my last chance to participate in World Junior Championships this year.
Shall I come to Russia this summer? I have not thought about this, but if I do, I know I might be taken to Russian Army and I want to play hockey! I plan to go to Kiev, Ukraine.

JVR
04-19-2004, 08:07 AM
German WC-roster (http://www.deb-online.de/neu/news/archiv/2004/april.htm#schubert190404) has also been announced:


Goalies:
1 JONAS, Oliver 14.05.1979 Neuss Eisbären Berlin 18 0 0 0 0
37 KÖLZIG, Olaf 06.04.1970 Johannesburg/ RSA Washington Capitals/ NHL 16 0 0 0 0
80 MÜLLER, Robert 25.06.1980 Rosenheim Krefeld Pinguine 63 0 0 0 0


Defense:
2 MOLLING, Jochen09.08.1973 Berlin Adler Mannheim 114 1 5 6 78
5 LEASK, Robert 09.06.1971 North York/ CAN Eisbären Berlin 7 0 0 0 4
9 SMAZAL, Heiko 06.01.1974 Neustadt a.d.Waldnaab Hamburg Freezers 43 2 5 7 24
12 LÜDEMANN, Mirko 15.12.1973 Weißwasser Kölner Haie 116 13 20 33 44
13 SCHUBERT, Christoph 05.02.1982 München Binhamton Senators/ AHL 30 1 1 2 20
31 RENZ, Andreas 12.06.1977 VS-Schwenningen Kölner Haie 91 3 2 5 68
41 KUNCE, Daniel 17.07.1971 Mähr.-Schönberg/ CZE Krefeld Pinguine 94 7 9 16 93
76 RETZER, Stephan 11.10.1976 Deggendorf Kassel Huskies 33 3 5 8 10
83 BENDA, Jan 28.04.1972 Reet/ BEL AK Bars Kazan/ RUS 141 29 36 65 194


Offense:
11 FELSKI, Sven 18.11.1974 Berlin Eisbären Berlin 65 7 5 12 64
17 HECHT, Jochen 21.06.1977 Mannheim Buffalo Sabres/ NHL 50 11 5 16 69
21 USTORF, Stefan 03.01.1974 Kaufbeuren Krefeld Pinguine 81 12 10 22 28
22 REICHEL, Martin 07.11.1973 Brüx/ CZE Frankfurt Lions 137 14 22 36 42
26 KREUTZER, Daniel 23.10.1979 Düsseldorf DEG Metro Stars 103 22 22 44 124
27 ABSTREITER, Tobias 06.07.1970 Landshut Kassel Huskies 101 10 26 36 44
32 MARTINEC, Tomas 05.03.1976 Pardubitz/ CZE Adler Mannheim 30 5 1 6 20
34LEWANDOWSKI, Eduard 03.05.1980 Krasnoturjinsk/ RUS Kölner Haie 49 4 9 13 55
39 GREILINGER, Thomas 06.08.1981 Deggendorf Nürnberg Ice Tigers 50 9 12 21 14
47 ULLMANN, Christoph 19.05.1983 Altötting Adler Mannheim 8 2 1 3 4
49 KATHAN, Klaus 07.01.1977 Bad Tölz Adler Mannheim 105 24 27 51 68
55 BLANK, Boris 10.07.1978 Karaganda/ KAZ Kölner Haie 44 5 3 8 34
73 BOOS, Tino 10.04.1975 Düsseldorf Kölner Haie 53 11 10 21 57
75 MORCZINIETZ, Andreas 11.03.1978 Wolfratshausen Kölner Haie 44 9 10 19 22

jonas_bay
04-19-2004, 04:46 PM
Swiss coach Krüger nominated Patrick Oppliger as Julien Vauclair has been called to the Ottawa Senators and sitting there on the bench. :banghead:

SwisshockeyAcademy
04-19-2004, 04:52 PM
German WC-roster (http://www.deb-online.de/neu/news/archiv/2004/april.htm#schubert190404) has also been announced:


Goalies:
1 JONAS, Oliver 14.05.1979 Neuss Eisbären Berlin 18 0 0 0 0
37 KÖLZIG, Olaf 06.04.1970 Johannesburg/ RSA Washington Capitals/ NHL 16 0 0 0 0
80 MÜLLER, Robert 25.06.1980 Rosenheim Krefeld Pinguine 63 0 0 0 0


Defense:
2 MOLLING, Jochen09.08.1973 Berlin Adler Mannheim 114 1 5 6 78
5 LEASK, Robert 09.06.1971 North York/ CAN Eisbären Berlin 7 0 0 0 4
9 SMAZAL, Heiko 06.01.1974 Neustadt a.d.Waldnaab Hamburg Freezers 43 2 5 7 24
12 LÜDEMANN, Mirko 15.12.1973 Weißwasser Kölner Haie 116 13 20 33 44
13 SCHUBERT, Christoph 05.02.1982 München Binhamton Senators/ AHL 30 1 1 2 20
31 RENZ, Andreas 12.06.1977 VS-Schwenningen Kölner Haie 91 3 2 5 68
41 KUNCE, Daniel 17.07.1971 Mähr.-Schönberg/ CZE Krefeld Pinguine 94 7 9 16 93
76 RETZER, Stephan 11.10.1976 Deggendorf Kassel Huskies 33 3 5 8 10
83 BENDA, Jan 28.04.1972 Reet/ BEL AK Bars Kazan/ RUS 141 29 36 65 194


Offense:
11 FELSKI, Sven 18.11.1974 Berlin Eisbären Berlin 65 7 5 12 64
17 HECHT, Jochen 21.06.1977 Mannheim Buffalo Sabres/ NHL 50 11 5 16 69
21 USTORF, Stefan 03.01.1974 Kaufbeuren Krefeld Pinguine 81 12 10 22 28
22 REICHEL, Martin 07.11.1973 Brüx/ CZE Frankfurt Lions 137 14 22 36 42
26 KREUTZER, Daniel 23.10.1979 Düsseldorf DEG Metro Stars 103 22 22 44 124
27 ABSTREITER, Tobias 06.07.1970 Landshut Kassel Huskies 101 10 26 36 44
32 MARTINEC, Tomas 05.03.1976 Pardubitz/ CZE Adler Mannheim 30 5 1 6 20
34LEWANDOWSKI, Eduard 03.05.1980 Krasnoturjinsk/ RUS Kölner Haie 49 4 9 13 55
39 GREILINGER, Thomas 06.08.1981 Deggendorf Nürnberg Ice Tigers 50 9 12 21 14
47 ULLMANN, Christoph 19.05.1983 Altötting Adler Mannheim 8 2 1 3 4
49 KATHAN, Klaus 07.01.1977 Bad Tölz Adler Mannheim 105 24 27 51 68
55 BLANK, Boris 10.07.1978 Karaganda/ KAZ Kölner Haie 44 5 3 8 34
73 BOOS, Tino 10.04.1975 Düsseldorf Kölner Haie 53 11 10 21 57
75 MORCZINIETZ, Andreas 11.03.1978 Wolfratshausen Kölner Haie 44 9 10 19 22
Nice to see Ullmann make it. He can be a player and he's only scratched the surface.

barrytrotzsneck
04-20-2004, 01:58 AM
Just some updates, with the Preds out of the playoffs:

Tomas Vokoun has accepted an invitation from the Czech team, and is the expected starter. Roman Cechmanek will likely be the backup. Vokoun hopes a good performance here will help springboard him to the Olympic team.

Martin Erat and Marek Zidlicky were also invited, but declined. Erat wants to keep his focus on the next NHL season, and Zidlicky is still suffering from a concussion incurred in game 1 of the playoffs.

Andreas Johansson has accepted an invitation to play for Sweden

Scott Walker declined an invitation to play for Canada, due to a fractured foot\birth of a new baby daughter.

Mark Eaton declined an invitation to play for Team USA, as he intends to keep his focus on his weight training in preparation for next season. David Legwand and Adam Hall have both been approached to play for USA, but have not committed yet.

AEKaki
04-20-2004, 02:24 AM
Yeah, I read Melichar was cut officially from the Czech team today. And that Kraft is still there and could make the team. I hope he makes it. He had a great year this year and I think it would be a nice reward.


He definetely deserves to make it.
I think he's a better player then Hrdina.
Plus, his confidence will go sky high with a roster spot.

Robertsson 4-ever
04-20-2004, 02:29 AM
... and St Louis defenseman Christian Bäckman have been accepting playing for Sweden as well.

Predatore
04-20-2004, 08:30 AM
Has anyone seen the Japanese WC-squad?

Raimo Sillanpää
04-20-2004, 09:11 AM
Finnish roster announced:

Nro Pos Name Club Birthdate Place Height Weight L/R
30 MV Fredrik Norrena Linköping 29.11.1973 Pietarsaari 183 85 L
31 MV Jussi Markkanen Edmonton Oilers 08.05.1975 Imatra 182 83 L
35 MV Mika Noronen Buffalo Sabres 17.06.1979 Tampere 185 93 L

3 P Petteri Nummelin Lugano 25.11.1972 Turku 178 83 L
7 P Antti-Jussi Niemi V Frölunda 22.09.1977 Helsinki 185 87 L
10 P Jere Karalahti HIFK 25.03.1975 Helsinki 188 96 R
18 P Tuukka Mäntylä Luleå 25.05.1981 Tampere 176 80 L
26 P Toni Söderholm HIFK 14.04.1978 Kauniainen 188 84 L
44 P Janne Niinimaa NY Islanders 22.05.1975 Raahe 186 99 L

12 H Olli Jokinen Florida Panthers 05.12.1978 Kuopio 188 89 L
15 H Tony Virta HPK 28.06.1972 Hämeenlinna 178 86 L
16 H Ville Peltonen Lugano 24.05.1973 Helsinki 180 84 L
20 H Lasse Pirjetä Pittsburgh Penguins 04.04.1974 Haukipudas 192 103 L
21 H Niko Kapanen Dallas Stars 29.04.1978 Hattula 177 80 L
24 H Antti Laaksonen Minnesota Wild 03.10.1973 Tammela 183 85 L
25 H Jukka Hentunen Fribourg 03.05.1974 Joroinen 178 88 R
27 H Timo Pärssinen HIFK 19.01.1977 Lohjan mlk 178 86 L
32 H Kimmo Rintanen Kloten Flyers 07.08.1973 Rauman mlk 181 88 L
41 H Niklas Hagman Florida Panthers 05.12.1979 Espoo 184 90 L
61 H Esa Pirnes LA Kings 01.04.1977 Oulu 184 86 L
71 H Tomi Kallio V Frölunda 27.01.1977 Turku 184 85 L

H=Hyökkääjä=Forward
P=Puolustaja=Defender
MV=Maalivahti=Goaltender

*by my count that's 21 players.. waiting for someone??

*source - Finhockey.fi

* = Edits

Raimo Sillanpää
04-20-2004, 09:19 AM
3+6+12 Hmm, at least 1 more defender will be added later then, (Sami Salo? Aki Berg?) and 1 more attacker? (Jarkko Ruutu??)
Trying to find out how many players teams can have, but I seem to recall it being 23..

Predatore
04-20-2004, 09:20 AM
It's scary that Norrena is actually the #3 goalie on the Finnish team (I assume Noronen #1, Markkanen #2). Looks like a good roster to me.

endacka
04-20-2004, 10:38 AM
Update on the Czech roster:

Elias is not coming due to some sort of operation is necessary for him. In addition, Rucinsky and Slegr were invited. Malik still not sure. Lener is still waiting tje end of TOR-OTT series, where are Kaberle and Reichel, and Havlat and Bonk.

So far:
Vokoun (Čechmánek, Salfický) - Hamrlík, Špaček, F. Kaberle, Modrý, Šlégr, Rachůnek, Hamr (Malík, Hejda, Škoula) - Jágr, Straka, Výborný, Dvořák, Prospal, Ručinský, Čajánek, Dopita, Beránek, Balaštík, Vašíček, Hlinka, Hlaváč, Průcha, Kraft, Bednář.

bizzz
04-20-2004, 03:05 PM
Russia roster so far:

goalie: Egor Podomatsky (lokomotiv-Yaroslavl), Maxim Sokolov (Avangard-Omsk) и Alexandr Fomichev (Siberia)

9 defensemen: - Dmitry Bykov, Vitaly Proshkin, Vasily Turkovsky (all- AkBars-Kazan), Alexandr Guskov, Dmitry Yushkevich (both – Lokomotiv), Dmitry Kalinin (Buffalo-NHL), Maxim Kondratiev(Lada-Togliatty), Oleg Tverdovsky (Avangard-Omsk), Andrey Skopintsev (Dynamo-Moscow)

14 forwards - Vladimir Antipov, Slava Butsaev (both - Lokomotiv), Maxim Afinogenov (Buffalo-NHL), Andrey Bashkirov (Lozanna-Switzerland), Valery Zelepukin (SKA), Sergey Zinoviev (Ak-Bars), Ilja Kovalchuk (Atlanta-NHL), Sergey Mozjakin and Nikolay Pronin (both - CSKA-Moscow), Alexey Morozov (Pittsburgh-NHL), Alexandr Ovechkin (Dynamo), Alexandr Prokopiev, Maxim Sushinsky (both - Avangard-Omsk), Alexandr Skugarev (Lada).

Possibly Alexey Yashin, Samsonov, Gonchar or Chubarov.

Henkka
04-20-2004, 07:23 PM
Finland officially released:

Goalies:

Mika Noronen, Buffalo
Jussi Markkanen, Edmonton
Fredrik Norrena, Linköping

Defence:

Janne Niinimaa, NY Islanders
Petteri Nummelin, Lugano
Antti-Jussi Niemi, Frölunda
Jere Karalahti, HIFK
Tuukka Mäntylä, Luulaja
Toni Söderholm, HIFK

Forwards:

Olli Jokinen, Florida
Niklas Hagman, Florida
Antti Laaksonen, Minnesota
Lasse Pirjetä, Pittsburgh
Niko Kapanen, Dallas
Esa Pirnes, Los Angeles
Ville Peltonen, Lugano
Jukka Hentunen, Fribourg
Kimmo Rintanen, Kloten
Tomi Kallio, Frölunda
Timo Pärssinen, HIFK
Tony Virta, HPK

One D-man and one forward will still be added. Sami Salo and Jarkko Ruutu probably.

incawg
04-21-2004, 01:32 AM
I'm told that Jarkko Ruutu has indeed accepted Finland's offer to play. No word on Salo yet.

md17
04-21-2004, 04:47 AM
Hopefully Mäntylä gets an injury or something,

Ummm, that's a really smart comment...

I'm not saying that I totally disagree with you on the subject itself. Mäntylä is a midget, and it naturally shows sometimes.
He's still much steadier defensively than Nummelin for example. Doesn't come anywhere close to Petteri in terms of offensive contribution, though. If you give Tuukka a 6'3, 220 type of an opponent to handle infront of the goal or along the boards, he'll do a much better job than many D-men bigger than him. He plays smart positional game too. And most importantly; he's a warrior. That's probably why Summanen likes him.

Raimo Sillanpää
04-21-2004, 05:18 AM
Smart comments come from smart men :D

He might be a warrior but when you don't have size you can fight and show dedication how much you want but it still won't be enough. Just look at Timonen in the 5-6 loss to sweden, he was the one giving the most out there every minute but got pushed away too much, had we had Helenius there to take away those big swedish forwards there wouldn't been a loss. Small guys with so little offensive skills aren't needed, no matter how hard they try.

Yes, and had we had one of Jortikka/Summanen/Westerlund/Heikkilä/ The Cleaning lady/Cheerleader/Tamminen/Tarja Halonen as coach we would have won 5-1!

or 5-2... at worst..

Raimo Sillanpää
04-21-2004, 05:49 AM
D Sami Salo Vancouver Canucks and
F Jarkko Ruutu Vancouver Canucks

have been officially added to team Finland

*source mtv3.fi

md17
04-21-2004, 06:04 AM
Smart comments come from smart men :D

He might be a warrior but when you don't have size you can fight and show dedication how much you want but it still won't be enough. Just look at Timonen in the 5-6 loss to sweden, he was the one giving the most out there every minute but got pushed away too much, had we had Helenius there to take away those big swedish forwards there wouldn't been a loss. Small guys with so little offensive skills aren't needed, no matter how hard they try.

More smart comments from a smart man ;-)

Had we had Helenius out there, the Swedes would have skated past him so fast he wouldn't have been anywhere on time to 'take away' anyone... He can't keep up with the pace even in SM-liiga. The Finnish team lost the game in their heads, not due to lack of size.

But like I said, I do agree with you somewhat, I just think you're a bit too black and white in your opinion on the importance of size (no 'other meaning' intended, you perverts...).
I'm not that sure I would be more comfortable with Saravo, for example, out there as Tuukka's replacement.

gib
04-21-2004, 06:20 AM
I'm told that Jarkko Ruutu has indeed accepted Finland's offer to play. No word on Salo yet.

Ruutu and Salo are both in. mtv3 (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/mmlatka/)

Final roster for team Finaland looks like this.

Goalies:

Mika Noronen, Buffalo
Jussi Markkanen, Edmonton
Fredrik Norrena, Linköping

Defence:

Janne Niinimaa, NY Islanders
Sami Salo, Vancuver Canucks
Petteri Nummelin, Lugano
Antti-Jussi Niemi, Frölunda
Jere Karalahti, HIFK
Tuukka Mäntylä, Luulaja
Toni Söderholm, HIFK

Forwards:


Olli Jokinen, Florida
Niklas Hagman, Florida
Antti Laaksonen, Minnesota
Lasse Pirjetä, Pittsburgh
Niko Kapanen, Dallas
Esa Pirnes, Los Angeles
Jarkko Ruutu, Vancuver Canucks
Ville Peltonen, Lugano
Jukka Hentunen, Fribourg
Kimmo Rintanen, Kloten
Tomi Kallio, Frölunda
Timo Pärssinen, HIFK
Tony Virta, HPK

About Mäntylä I think he was good choice, but I am not very pleased about Antti-Jussi Niemi.

Jokerit Wasp
04-21-2004, 07:59 AM
Similar Finnish roster to last years WC, so i cant see Finland wining it. Czechs look strong tho!

Padawan
04-21-2004, 09:41 AM
Final roster for team Finaland looks like this.

Goalies:

Mika Noronen, Buffalo
Jussi Markkanen, Edmonton
Fredrik Norrena, Linköping

Defence:

Janne Niinimaa, NY Islanders
Sami Salo, Vancuver Canucks
Petteri Nummelin, Lugano
Antti-Jussi Niemi, Frölunda
Jere Karalahti, HIFK
Tuukka Mäntylä, Luulaja
Toni Söderholm, HIFK

Forwards:


Olli Jokinen, Florida
Niklas Hagman, Florida
Antti Laaksonen, Minnesota
Lasse Pirjetä, Pittsburgh
Niko Kapanen, Dallas
Esa Pirnes, Los Angeles
Jarkko Ruutu, Vancuver Canucks
Ville Peltonen, Lugano
Jukka Hentunen, Fribourg
Kimmo Rintanen, Kloten
Tomi Kallio, Frölunda
Timo Pärssinen, HIFK
Tony Virta, HPK


Nope, not the final team. There is still two spots left in the team. One spot for forward and one spot for defender. All of the three Viuhkola, Immonen and Loponen are still part of considerations for those two spots.

mikkoz
04-21-2004, 10:18 AM
Has Numminen said no yet?

Wasnt he going to a surgery?

pihinalle
04-21-2004, 10:26 AM
This Finnish roster is very different compared to last year's.

Last year everyone were watching only the first line. Now it will be different. All lines will get their chances.

We have good pointmen on the powerplay. Salo, Karalahti and Nummelin have wicked slapshot. Powerplay is one thing I'm counting on.

mikkoz
04-21-2004, 10:38 AM
Similar Finnish roster to last years WC, so i cant see Finland wining it. Czechs look strong tho!

As pihinalle mentioned, perhaps closer to 2002 team.

Knucklez
04-21-2004, 11:39 AM
Canada's defence has the potential to be amazing. Aucoin, Redden, Jovanovski, Pronger, and Niedermayer are all out in the first round. I know Nieds has accepted. I hope the others do.

I'd also love to see Brendan Morrison suit up for Canada, and even Matt Cooke.

Knucklez
04-21-2004, 11:48 AM
Why are there 2 of the same thread?

mikkoz
04-21-2004, 11:51 AM
Why are there 2 of the same thread?

The other one is for official teams, this is more speculations etc.

Predatore
04-21-2004, 12:13 PM
actually the discussion was pretty much the same so I merged the threads :)

Rails
04-21-2004, 09:25 PM
Is it unlikely to see Guerin or Modano asked for the USA?

LoudmouthHemskyFan#2
04-22-2004, 01:45 AM
Does anyone know who Hemsky will be on a line with for the czech team?

Predatore
04-22-2004, 03:44 AM
Here's the official Swedish WC-roster (3 goalies, 8 defensemen, 16(!) forwards).

Goalies:
Daniel Henriksson, Luleå
Stefan Liv, HV 71
Henrik Lundqvist, Frölunda

Defensemen:
Christian Bäckman, St Louis (NHL)
Per Hållberg, Färjestad
Niclas Hävelid, Anaheim (NHL)
Thomas Johansson, Linköping
Thomas Rhodin, Fribourg
Ronnie Sundin, Frölunda
Daniel Tjärnqvist, Atlanta (NHL)
Dick Tärnström, Pittsburgh (NHL)

Forwards:
Niklas Andersson, Frölunda
Per-Johan Axelsson, Boston (NHL)
Johan Davidsson, HV 71
Johan Franzén, Linköping
Jonathan Hedström, Djurgården
Jonas Höglund, Davos
Andreas Johansson, Nashville (NHL)
Jörgen Jönsson, Färjestad
Magnus Kahnberg, Frölunda
Magnus Nilsson, Luleå
Niklas Nordgren, Timrå
Michael Nylander, Boston (NHL)
Samuel Påhlsson, Anaheim (NHL)
Andreas Salomonsson, Modo
Fredrik Sjöström, Phoenix (NHL)
Mathías Tjärnqvist, Utah (AHL)

Karsten
04-22-2004, 08:03 AM
Official roster - DENMARK

Statistics to the right denotes GP, G, A, P for Denmark

Goaltenders
31. Peter HIRSCH, Malmö Redhawks (SEL) 91 - 0 - 2 - 2
30. Michael MADSEN, Herlev Eagles 35 - 0 - 0 - 0
90. Jan JENSEN, Esbjerg Oilers 134 - 0 - 0 - 0

Defensemen
3. Jesper DUUS, Herlev Eagles 178 - 39 - 61 - 100
5. Daniel NIELSEN, Herning Blue Fox 48 - 5 - 14 - 19
7. Jesper DAMGAARD, MoDo (SEL) 157 - 25 - 43 - 68
16. Dan JENSEN, Herning Blue Fox 127 - 8 - 31 - 39
17. Morten DAHLMANN, Rungsted Cobras 68 - 12 - 5 - 17
20. Christian SCHIOLDAN, Frederikshavn Whitehawks 29 - 1 - 4 - 5
25. Andreas ANDREASEN, Esbjerg Oilers, 89 - 3 - 12 - 15
47. Thomas JOHNSEN, Odense Bulldogs 68 - 12 - 5 - 17

Forwards
8. Thor DRESLER, Herlev Eagles 52 - 11 - 11 - 22
9. Bent CHRISTENSEN, Odense Bulldogs 56 - 5 - 12 - 17
10. Bo NORDBY-ANDERSEN, AaB Ishockey 94 - 16 - 27 - 43
12. Mads TRUE, Odense Bulldogs 165 - 31 - 46 - 77
13. Ronny LARSEN, AaB Ishockey 197 - 71 - 75 - 146
15. Frans NIELSEN, Malmö Redhawks (SEL) 42 - 8 - 20 - 28
18. Alexander SUNDBERG, Odense Bulldogs 53 - 12 - 10 - 22
19. Kim STAAL, Malmö Redhawks (SEL) 101 - 63 - 46 - 109
21. Michael SMIDT, AaB Ishockey 31 - 4 - 4 - 8
22. Mike GREY, Frederikshavn Whitehawks 125 - 25- 19 - 44
24. Kasper DEGN, Herning Blue Fox 31 - 2 - 8 - 10
27. Jens NIELSEN, Leksands (SEL) 179 - 111 - 119 - 230
29. Morten GREEN, MoDo (SEL) 95 - 22 - 54 - 76
33. Nicolas MONBERG, Rungsted Cobras 75 - 24 - 16 - 40

gopher
04-22-2004, 09:33 AM
Official roster - AUSTRIA:

Goalies:
Bernd Brückler (University of Wisconsin - NCAA)
Claus Dalpiaz (HC Innsbruck)
Reinhard Divis (St. Louis Blues - NHL)

Defensemen:
Andre Lakos (Vienna Capitals)
Philippe Lakos (Vienna Capitals)
Robert Lukas (Superfund BW Linz)
Sven Klimbacher (Superfund BW Linz)
Thomas Pöck (New York Rangers - NHL)
Johannes Reichel (KAC)
Martin Ulrich (DEG Metro Stars - DEL)
Gerhard Unterluggauer (DEG Metro Stars - DEL)

Forwards:
Christoph Brandner (Houston Aeros - AHL) *
Raimund Divis (Superfund BW Linz)
Christoph Harand (Vienna Capitals)
Philippe-Michael Horsky (KAC)
Dieter Kalt (Färjestads BK - SEL)
Roland Kaspitz (VSV)
Thomas Koch (KAC)
Philipp Lukas (Superfund BW Linz)
Markus Peintner (Superfund BW Linz)
Oliver Setzinger (HPK Hämmenlinna - SM Liiga)
Marc Szücs (Superfund BW Linz)
Matthias Trattnig (Kassel Huskies - DEL)
Thomas Vanek (University of Minnesota - NCAA)
Daniel Welser (KAC)

* questionable

Predatore
04-22-2004, 10:59 AM
has the final Russian roster been announced yet?

gib
04-22-2004, 11:08 AM
In his interview on March 12, 2004 with Dmitry Pavlovich from Soviet Sport
Nikolai Zherdev talks about his trial and other stuff:
I still want to represent Russia on international stage. I hope all this will be behind and I will have a chance to play for Team Russia again. It is unfortunate
that I missed my last chance to participate in World Junior Championships this year.
Shall I come to Russia this summer? I have not thought about this, but if I do, I know I might be taken to Russian Army and I want to play hockey! I plan to go to Kiev, Ukraine.

:help: Can someone explain me something about Zherdev and Ukraine/Russia thing. How old Zherdev was when he moved from Ukraine to Russia? Why do players from Ukraine prefer represent Russia than Ukraine? I have read that many players form Ukraine move to play in Russia. So they have born in Ukraine, but at some age they move to play in Russia and take Russian citizenship?

I am just curious because Ukraine would have pretty good lineup if their players wouldn`t move to Russia. In WC there would be one more fairly competetive team if guys who have born in Ukraine would represent their homeland. In my opinion guys like Nik Zherdev and Alexei Zhitnik (those are guys who I know are born in Ukraine but there can be more of them) playing in team Ukraine instead of Russia would be boost for WC (I think Russian hockey fans disagree with that ; ). In team Ukraine there is also one of my all time favourite players.......
:bow: Dimitri Khristich

Douggy
04-22-2004, 11:14 AM
Thoughts:
- Too bad for the Swiss and Germans that the Sharks moved on to the second round.
- Any reason why Telqvist and/or Steen weren't named to the Swedish team?? Steen had been with the Swedish national team all year if I recall.
- Slovakia would be absolutely amazing if they had anything near a top notch goalie.

gib
04-22-2004, 11:27 AM
Thoughts:
- Too bad for the Swiss and Germans that the Sharks moved on to the second round.


Is there Swiss players in Sharks?

barrytrotzsneck
04-22-2004, 11:30 AM
Thoughts:
- Too bad for the Swiss and Germans that the Sharks moved on to the second round.
- Any reason why Telqvist and/or Steen weren't named to the Swedish team?? Steen had been with the Swedish national team all year if I recall.
- Slovakia would be absolutely amazing if they had anything near a top notch goalie.


lasak didn't work out for us in nashville, but if you look back at his international play, he's consistently one of the better goalies in the tournament. he somehow gets "in the zone" for these things, and sheds all of his confidence problems. the guy has some fantastic skills...he just doesn't have the mental game to match to play in the NHL.

Predatore
04-22-2004, 12:34 PM
Thoughts:
Any reason why Telqvist and/or Steen weren't named to the Swedish team?? Steen had been with the Swedish national team all year if I recall.


The Leafs don't allow Tellqvist to go as long as they are still in the playoffs.

Steen only played one tournament with Sweden and one or two exhibition games. The competition is tough and there are several quality players that did not make the team. Steen is simply not good enough yet, but hopefully he'll make the team next season.

Predatore
04-22-2004, 01:41 PM
Daniel Alfredsson has been added to team Sweden, woho! :)
He will likely not the play the first two games (Denmark, Japan) but definitely against Russia on Tuesday.

Graham
04-23-2004, 03:57 AM
:help: Can someone explain me something about Zherdev and Ukraine/Russia thing. How old Zherdev was when he moved from Ukraine to Russia? Why do players from Ukraine prefer represent Russia than Ukraine? I have read that many players form Ukraine move to play in Russia. So they have born in Ukraine, but at some age they move to play in Russia and take Russian citizenship?
I don't know about the specific instances of the players you mention, but remember in the old Soviet days families were moved around the country at the state's demand. A Lithuanian once told me that a lot of the Russians in Lithuania were there because some Lithuanians were regarded as being involved nationalist activities. To stop the nationalist movement gaining momentum, the Lithuanian family were moved to some far corner of Russia and a Russian family came into replace them (should point out that the Russian family didn't want to be moved, either). As a result, you have a lot of people in the former Soviet states who regard themselves as Russian, even though they were born after their family were re-housed.

The largest population in Riga (capital of Latvia) is not Latvian. It is Russian.

Graham.

Simagin
04-23-2004, 04:38 AM
I don't know about the specific instances of the players you mention, but remember in the old Soviet days families were moved around the country at the state's demand. A Lithuanian once told me that a lot of the Russians in Lithuania were there because some Lithuanians were regarded as being involved nationalist activities. To stop the nationalist movement gaining momentum, the Lithuanian family were moved to some far corner of Russia and a Russian family came into replace them (should point out that the Russian family didn't want to be moved, either). As a result, you have a lot of people in the former Soviet states who regard themselves as Russian, even though they were born after their family were re-housed.

The largest population in Riga (capital of Latvia) is not Latvian. It is Russian.

Graham.

:handclap:

popperbolt*
04-23-2004, 05:42 AM
Official roster - AUSTRIA:

Goalies:
Bernd Brückler (University of Wisconsin - NCAA)
Claus Dalpiaz (HC Innsbruck)
Reinhard Divis (St. Louis Blues - NHL)

Defensemen:
Andre Lakos (Vienna Capitals)
Philippe Lakos (Vienna Capitals)
Robert Lukas (Superfund BW Linz)
Sven Klimbacher (Superfund BW Linz)
Thomas Pöck (New York Rangers - NHL)
Johannes Reichel (KAC)
Martin Ulrich (DEG Metro Stars - DEL)
Gerhard Unterluggauer (DEG Metro Stars - DEL)

Forwards:
Christoph Brandner (Houston Aeros - AHL) *
Raimund Divis (Superfund BW Linz)
Christoph Harand (Vienna Capitals)
Philippe-Michael Horsky (KAC)
Dieter Kalt (Färjestads BK - SEL)
Roland Kaspitz (VSV)
Thomas Koch (KAC)
Philipp Lukas (Superfund BW Linz)
Markus Peintner (Superfund BW Linz)
Oliver Setzinger (HPK Hämmenlinna - SM Liiga)
Marc Szücs (Superfund BW Linz)
Matthias Trattnig (Kassel Huskies - DEL)
Thomas Vanek (University of Minnesota - NCAA)
Daniel Welser (KAC)

* questionable

brandner will NOT play
I'm hyped about vanek,koch,trattnig,welser,setzinger - they played huge against denmark

Slats432
04-23-2004, 09:30 AM
Anyone have any info as to why Hemsky got cut from the Czech team?

Jussi
04-23-2004, 10:35 AM
Anyone have any info as to why Hemsky got cut from the Czech team?

He wasn't good enough?

Slats432
04-23-2004, 11:15 AM
He wasn't good enough?
Gee Jussi, thanks for the detailed analysis :lol . I was thinking looking at their projected roster that Hemsky had a decent shot of making the team and was looking for some perspective as to how the team was made up and decided on.

As an example people talk about Dopita being on the team and Kraft being on the team. Maybe someone could provide some insight because certainly Hemsky should at least be considered as skilled as some of the players on the team.

montreal
04-23-2004, 02:04 PM
Russia roster so far:

goalie: Egor Podomatsky (lokomotiv-Yaroslavl), Maxim Sokolov (Avangard-Omsk) и Alexandr Fomichev (Siberia)

9 defensemen: - Dmitry Bykov, Vitaly Proshkin, Vasily Turkovsky (all- AkBars-Kazan), Alexandr Guskov, Dmitry Yushkevich (both – Lokomotiv), Dmitry Kalinin (Buffalo-NHL), Maxim Kondratiev(Lada-Togliatty), Oleg Tverdovsky (Avangard-Omsk), Andrey Skopintsev (Dynamo-Moscow)

14 forwards - Vladimir Antipov, Slava Butsaev (both - Lokomotiv), Maxim Afinogenov (Buffalo-NHL), Andrey Bashkirov (Lozanna-Switzerland), Valery Zelepukin (SKA), Sergey Zinoviev (Ak-Bars), Ilja Kovalchuk (Atlanta-NHL), Sergey Mozjakin and Nikolay Pronin (both - CSKA-Moscow), Alexey Morozov (Pittsburgh-NHL), Alexandr Ovechkin (Dynamo), Alexandr Prokopiev, Maxim Sushinsky (both - Avangard-Omsk), Alexandr Skugarev (Lada).

Possibly Alexey Yashin, Samsonov, Gonchar or Chubarov.


How did Baskirov make the team?

Slick Nick
04-23-2004, 03:26 PM
:help: Can someone explain me something about Zherdev and Ukraine/Russia thing. How old Zherdev was when he moved from Ukraine to Russia? Why do players from Ukraine prefer represent Russia than Ukraine? I have read that many players form Ukraine move to play in Russia. So they have born in Ukraine, but at some age they move to play in Russia and take Russian citizenship?

I am just curious because Ukraine would have pretty good lineup if their players wouldn`t move to Russia. In WC there would be one more fairly competetive team if guys who have born in Ukraine would represent their homeland. In my opinion guys like Nik Zherdev and Alexei Zhitnik (those are guys who I know are born in Ukraine but there can be more of them) playing in team Ukraine instead of Russia would be boost for WC (I think Russian hockey fans disagree with that ; ). In team Ukraine there is also one of my all time favourite players.......
:bow: Dimitri Khristich

You have to take in considaration that Ukraine as a country never really existed before 1992. It was a part of the russian empire at the begging, anexed to the Polish-Lithuanian empire where they actually became Ukrainians, and then back to Russia. (it's really not all that simple, but overall it looks like that). When the borders of the former USSR were drawn, they were arbitrary, and they were done from a bureaucratical view, not an historical or logical view. So after the USSR crumbled, a lot of the traditionnal russian territories as Crimea and eastern Ukraine were lost the Ukrianians. The language spoken by most poeple in Ukraine is Russian. And more than 10 million of Russians (ethnicly wise) live in Ukraine. So when you take exemples like Zherdev, well is he really Ukrainian? I don't know, because I can't really determine what is Ukrainian and what is Russian, since more than 200 ethnical groups live in Russia...I think he's both, Born in Ukraine, Russophone, Russian name...bla bla

As for why Ukrainians go to Russia in order to play hockey, it's quite simple. There's practicly no indoor hockey rinks in Ukraine, and the weather is pretty warm in winter so they don't really get to play outside neither. So most of the talanted kids from Ukraine go to Russia, because of it's rinks and also because of it's hockey schools.

I hope I didn't insult any Ukrainian or anything like that. I just wanted to explain basicly what's the situation out there. Because a lot of people do not know about the realty of countries like Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Belarus and other former USSR republics.

Slick Nick
04-23-2004, 03:36 PM
How did Baskirov make the team?

I fell on my arse when I saw his name on the roster. Andrei who? the headless chiken style Bashkirov? man, I hope he improved since last time I saw him play, otherwise I doubt about Russia's chances :cry:

David A. Rainer
04-23-2004, 10:40 PM
Does anyone know, or can provide me a link to, the French and Khazakstan rosters?

Slick Nick
04-23-2004, 11:22 PM
I couldn't find anything for Kazakhstan, but I got that from the rench boards on the IHWC site.

Goals
Cristobal Huet
Fabrice Lhenry
Pat Rolland

Dйfenseurs
Baptiste Amar
Vincent Bachet
Allan Carriou
Nico Favarin
Chris Pouget
Nico Pousset
Lilian Prunet

Attaquants
Ben Bachelet
Sйbastien Bordeleau
Arnaud Briand
Brice Chauvel
Olivier Coqueux
Xavier Daramy
David Dostal
Laurent Gras
Anthony Mortas
Franзois Rozenthal
Maurice Rozenthal
Jon Zwikel

IceMelter
04-24-2004, 12:53 AM
http://inthockeygang.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=mini&action=display&num=1082555885

check that for rosters they do a pretty good job there

gib
04-24-2004, 01:25 AM
Thanks to Slick Nick and Graham for your answers. Well this conversation is going out off tobic, but learning history of other countries is always good. Even if I am from Finland I didn`t know really much about Ukrainian history. I have of course read about Russian history in school, but it doesn`t really handle Ukraine. Even we are neighbours with Russia and Russia has common history with Ukraine. But Slick I want to add something to your post. This is from world fact book.

"Ukraine was the center of the first Slavic state, Kievan Rus, which during the 10th and 11th centuries was the largest and most powerful state in Europe. Weakened by internecine quarrels and Mongol invasions, Kievan Rus was incorporated into the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and eventually into the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The cultural and religious legacy of Kievan Rus laid the foundation for Ukrainian nationalism through subsequent centuries."

Nationality quoestions can be pretty complicated. It seems that only Zherdev himself knows is he Ukrainian or Russian. Maybe he`s more Russian cause he wants to represents Russia. About Zhitnik I have read that in the olympics Russia had game against Ukraine and Zhitnik refused to play in that game (He was in team Russia).

incawg
04-24-2004, 05:25 AM
http://inthockeygang.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=mini&action=display&num=1082555885

check that for rosters they do a pretty good job there

Holy crap, there is a team called the Nippon Paper Cranes? I totally need to get their jersey.

Slick Nick
04-25-2004, 12:19 AM
"Ukraine was the center of the first Slavic state, Kievan Rus, which during the 10th and 11th centuries was the largest and most powerful state in Europe. Weakened by internecine quarrels and Mongol invasions, Kievan Rus was incorporated into the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and eventually into the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The cultural and religious legacy of Kievan Rus laid the foundation for Ukrainian nationalism through subsequent centuries."

This is true and false at the same time. Kievan Rus was the largest and most powerfull state in Europe, but it hasn't anything to do with Ukraine. It was one of the Kingdoms that gave birth to the russian empire, along with other ones like Novgorod or Vladimir. The apparition of Ukrainians came only about 6 centuries later, so I can't see any link betwen the two, exept that Kiev is today Ukraine's capitial.

Anyways, we are really getting off topic. I want to wish you Finns the best of luck, and at the same time thank you for Saku koivu who is our greatest leader in Montreal!!!

Good Champs everybody!