Cheechoo on waivers! [cleared, going to bingo]

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slamigo
02-12-2010, 11:07 AM
According to Garrioch.

Cat Herder
02-12-2010, 11:08 AM
yep

http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch

SilverSeven
02-12-2010, 11:08 AM
Nice.

NyQuil
02-12-2010, 11:08 AM
Who will claim him though?

MatthewT
02-12-2010, 11:08 AM
holy moly, Bryan is wheeling and dealing today

HSF
02-12-2010, 11:08 AM
LA wants him?


holy crap this day is so full of win so far!!!

SilverSeven
02-12-2010, 11:08 AM
Does this mean Penner may be happening? I can never keep up with the Cap...

NyQuil
02-12-2010, 11:08 AM
holy moly, Bryan is wheeling and dealing today

He's got to earn his new contract.

Indy on the Road
02-12-2010, 11:09 AM
Who will claim him though?

LA has been rumoured to have interest, but my guess is nobody and he is asked to report to Bingo.

MatthewT
02-12-2010, 11:09 AM
Who will claim him though?

LA..

SenatorsHockey
02-12-2010, 11:09 AM
Oh damn.

If this is true, it's too bad. Guy has a huge heart and it just sucks that he isn't rewarded for his hard work :(

Regardless, it's the best move for the team.

The Great Below
02-12-2010, 11:10 AM
Murray gets a :handclap:

Purged the team of our worst defenseman and forward.
Added Cullen

Shows Melnyk is willing to eat his oen bad contract too in the AHL. That's ****ing sweet

metalfoot
02-12-2010, 11:11 AM
He's played his best for us, but his best, right now, isn't good enough, especially with Cullen joining the team. Thanks, Cheechoo, and all the best wherever you end up.

corksens
02-12-2010, 11:11 AM
What a great day for the Sens.

Cheechoo is by all accounts a terrific guy and teammate, but he simply isn't an NHL calibre player anymore.

Unfortunately for him, NHL teams don't pay players for smiles, they pay for goals.

NyQuil
02-12-2010, 11:11 AM
Purged the team of our worst defenseman and forward.
Added Cullen


This is true.

I liked Cheechoo's spirit but he was killing me out there.

Jasper
02-12-2010, 11:12 AM
****ing A!

Nestea
02-12-2010, 11:12 AM
I think I'm one of the few fans who liked Cheechoo... Great work ethic, big heart, just incredibly snakebitten. I thought he'd be an awesome player down the stretch and in the playoffs for us.

masterandy
02-12-2010, 11:12 AM
Murray gets a :handclap:

Purged the team of our worst defenseman and forward.
Added Cullen

Shows Melnyk is willing to eat his oen bad contract too in the AHL. That's ****ing sweet

Exactly what I was thinking! We actually agree for once

HSF
02-12-2010, 11:12 AM
What a great day for the Sens.

Cheechoo is by all accounts a terrific guy and teammate, but he simply isn't an NHL calibre player anymore.

Unfortunately for him, NHL teams don't pay players for smiles, they pay for goals.

lol what? ya he might not be a TOP 6 FORWARD.

but to say he isnt NHL caliber is beyond dumb

Johnny Hanson
02-12-2010, 11:13 AM
This is true.

I liked Cheechoo's spirit but he was killing me out there.

hey take it easy on the natives.

Neil Patrick Harris
02-12-2010, 11:14 AM
Is another move on the way? Is someone going to take him?

I love Cheechoo, he played as hard as he could, but I hope he's gone.

Afro Thunder*
02-12-2010, 11:14 AM
I would be happy if we can get a draft pick from him. as long as his contract is gone, I am all good.

Indy on the Road
02-12-2010, 11:14 AM
I think I'm one of the few fans who liked Cheechoo... Great work ethic, big heart, just incredibly snakebitten. I thought he'd be an awesome player down the stretch and in the playoffs for us.

He isn't gone yet. Could easily be recalled or just stay with the big club if he clears.

Johnny Hanson
02-12-2010, 11:14 AM
lol what? ya he might not be a TOP 6 FORWARD.

but to say he isnt NHL caliber is beyond dumb

your response is beyond dumb. cheechoo has no business being anywhere near an nhl team that fancies themselves cup contenders.

WasTeD
02-12-2010, 11:15 AM
Ole ole ole ole!

NyQuil
02-12-2010, 11:15 AM
Lots of changes going on.

Hopefully the team chemistry can maintain itself.

FolignoQuantumLeap
02-12-2010, 11:16 AM
Cullen >>> Cheechoo. Huge upgrade today. There's gotta be some more movement before the deadline if Murray was willing to bring in Cullen as a rental. D-FENSE!!! D-FENSE!!

The Swedish Flash
02-12-2010, 11:16 AM
Murray gets a :handclap:

Purged the team of our worst defenseman and forward.
Added Cullen

Shows Melnyk is willing to eat his oen bad contract too in the AHL. That's ****ing sweet

Best owner in the league hands down :handclap:

I feel bad for Cheechoo,such a great guy and a hard-worker. He just hit a brick wall with all the wasted opportunities . Does AHL take a break just like the NHL with the Olympics around the corner ? maybe this move is just temporary and the front office want Cheechoo to regain his scoring touch in the AHL ;)

DJB
02-12-2010, 11:16 AM
Murray gets a :handclap:

Purged the team of our worst defenseman and forward.
Added Cullen

Shows Melnyk is willing to eat his oen bad contract too in the AHL. That's ****ing sweet

Agreed!! Awesome day to be a sens fan. we get rid of our two worst players on the same day....

:handclap: :yo:

corksens
02-12-2010, 11:16 AM
lol what? ya he might not be a TOP 6 FORWARD.

but to say he isnt NHL caliber is beyond dumbNo, what's dumb is people consistenly saying "I still think he can get 20-25 goals".

He can't skate. He doesn't kill penalties. He can't score with any regularity. He's a warm body on the bench, thats it.

I can't see any team in the league thinking he deserves a contract. In other words, he isn't an NHL calibre player anymore.

I've never seen to many people (SJ fans included) like a player so much to defend him no matter the quality of play. It's amazing.

Lexicon Devil
02-12-2010, 11:17 AM
lol what? ya he might not be a TOP 6 FORWARD.

but to say he isnt NHL caliber is beyond dumb

He doesn't have toughness or speed - it is hard to make it as a bottom-6 guy without at least one. He's a natural scorer, and a natural scorer without the speed for the NHL is another Dennis Hamel.

SenatorsHockey
02-12-2010, 11:17 AM
How the hell am I supposed to study for my lab exam at 1:30 with all this going on? :scared:

Damnit BM, couldn't you wait until after 3 pm to do your wheelin' and dealin'?

BM :shakehead:

Spence334
02-12-2010, 11:17 AM
I can't help but feel bad for the guy. 56 goal scorer to a waiver pick up. He must be trying to relive he old glory days.

Best of luck Cheechoo.

Jasper
02-12-2010, 11:18 AM
I think I'm one of the few fans who liked Cheechoo... Great work ethic, big heart, just incredibly snakebitten. I thought he'd be an awesome player down the stretch and in the playoffs for us.
I don't get this hope some people have for Cheechoo, he's done nothing to indicate he's going to suddenly do a 180 scoring-wise in the playoffs. His role can easily be filled by someone that isn't sliding downhill.

bdp
02-12-2010, 11:18 AM
Hope he gets picked up.

Not only to get his salary off the books, but the guy deserves it.

Spence334
02-12-2010, 11:20 AM
No, what's dumb is people consistenly saying "I still think he can get 20-25 goals".

He can't skate. He doesn't kill penalties. He can't score with any regularity. He's a warm body on the bench, thats it.

I can't see any team in the league thinking he deserves a contract. In other words, he isn't an NHL calibre player anymore.

I've never seen to many people (SJ fans included) like a player so much to defend him no matter the quality of play. It's amazing.


Whats not to like about him? I understand people trying to defend him, he was just that kind of person that someone would stick up for.

Neil Patrick Harris
02-12-2010, 11:21 AM
I don't get this hope some people have for Cheechoo, he's done nothing to indicate he's going to suddenly do a 180 scoring-wise in the playoffs. His role can easily be filled by someone that isn't sliding downhill.

It's partially because you want him to succeed. Cheechoo's such a nice guy and he earns so much money that you want him to do well.

I can't hate Cheechoo. I love the guy. He played as best he could, but I hope he's gone.

pt_mck
02-12-2010, 11:21 AM
Is there a more reliable source than garioch's twitter?

Shame for Cheechoo love his work ethic and he is a big part of the teams chemistry. Everyone likes him but they had to clear the cap space for Cullen's contract.

Hell on Heels
02-12-2010, 11:22 AM
Is there a more reliable source than garioch's twitter?

Shame for Cheechoo love his work ethic and he is a big part of the teams chemistry. Everyone likes him but they had to clear the cap space for Cullen's contract.

mckenzie also had it on his twitter.

Neil Patrick Harris
02-12-2010, 11:22 AM
Is there a more reliable source than garioch's twitter?

Shame for Cheechoo love his work ethic and he is a big part of the teams chemistry. Everyone likes him but they had to clear the cap space for Cullen's contract.

Bob McKenzie's twitter has it as well.

Xspyrit
02-12-2010, 11:22 AM
wow, seems like my working day is ruined... Will have to deal with that later i guess lol

utah
02-12-2010, 11:24 AM
I think I'm one of the few fans who liked Cheechoo... Great work ethic, big heart, just incredibly snakebitten. I thought he'd be an awesome player down the stretch and in the playoffs for us.

I thought so as well.

RedWhiteBlackGold
02-12-2010, 11:24 AM
Wow.. this is awesome news. Murray actually done things today I agree with!

SensFan26
02-12-2010, 11:24 AM
Watch San Jose pick him up.

tahi0009
02-12-2010, 11:24 AM
I dont think theres anyway he gets picked up on waivers, maybe on re entry but whos gonna take this guy when they can wait and have Ottawa pay for half his salary

Jasper
02-12-2010, 11:24 AM
It's partially because you want him to succeed. Cheechoo's such a nice guy and he earns so much money that you want him to do well.

I can't hate Cheechoo. I love the guy. He played as best he could, but I hope he's gone.
I'd like to see him succeed too, but him being a nice guy shouldn't give him one inch of extra rope.

MHX
02-12-2010, 11:24 AM
It's obvious why this move was made but I really feel for Cheechoo. Great guy, works hard but the magic is gone. He's too slow for today's NHL.

Hopefully he does get picked up by L.A. as some reports suggest.

RedWhiteBlackGold
02-12-2010, 11:25 AM
Watch San Jose pick him up.

I can only wait for the next "Much Better Cheechoo song". :laugh:

guyzeur
02-12-2010, 11:26 AM
I have been calling this since last week. :yo:

Only need to add another D to fulfill my prophecies :nod:

My wish list: I would like to improve on goaltending while we are it: make it so Murray

MatthewT
02-12-2010, 11:26 AM
if someone claims cheechoo it will be

picard, cheechoo, 2nd for cullen

Murray would get an A+++++++++++

Theo Huxtable
02-12-2010, 11:27 AM
I can't help but feel bad for the guy. 56 goal scorer to a waiver pick up. He must be trying to relive he old glory days.

Best of luck Cheechoo.

Agreed, but this move had to be made. Cheechoo's career is probably done. Adding Cullen in for Cheechoo is brilliant. Now Murray needs to get a d-man and the team should be good to go for the playoffs.

GO SENS GO

Legend Killer
02-12-2010, 11:27 AM
Potentially 2 Centerpieces gone in the same day!!

SchubieLE
02-12-2010, 11:27 AM
:( Awww, too bad. I guess it's just the best for the team though.

Best of luck Cheech.

The Great Below
02-12-2010, 11:28 AM
if someone claims cheechoo it will be

picard, cheechoo, 2nd for cullen

Murray would get an A+++++++++++

He earned the contract extension in one day :laugh:

SensFan26
02-12-2010, 11:29 AM
How often do you see a 50 goal scorer on the verge of playing on a AHL team just 5 years later..

MatthewT
02-12-2010, 11:30 AM
He earned the contract extension in one day :laugh:

1 day? more like 1 hour

sens83
02-12-2010, 11:30 AM
Best owner in the league hands down :handclap:

I feel bad for Cheechoo,such a great guy and a hard-worker. He just hit a brick wall with all the wasted opportunities . Does AHL take a break just like the NHL with the Olympics around the corner ? maybe this move is just temporary and the front office want Cheechoo to regain his scoring touch in the AHL ;)

No, the AHL does not take a break. B-sens are away Fri/Sat and home on Sun, the Mirabito Outdoor Classic in Syracuse is on Feb 20th against the Crunch.

I think we will be losing Kaspars Daugavins to the Olympics though. He's playing for Latvia.

OgieO
02-12-2010, 11:33 AM
Cheech gave it everything he could. It's just not enough anymore. Best of luck to him where ever he goes, he seems like a great teammate.

The Great Below
02-12-2010, 11:33 AM
1 day? more like 1 hour

True

Blehst*
02-12-2010, 11:33 AM
possibly this is happening to gain space for re-signing volchy!

Prattalot
02-12-2010, 11:34 AM
It had to be done. Hope someone picks him up but he doesn't have a place on our roster going forward.

SenatorsHockey
02-12-2010, 11:34 AM
It's on TSN's Ice Chips just in case anyone was looking for an "official" news outlet.

source
02-12-2010, 11:38 AM
So:

Heatley + Picard
for
Michalek + Cullen + Cap Space

..we can hope.

SensFan26
02-12-2010, 11:38 AM
Volchenkov resigning upon us?

MatthewT
02-12-2010, 11:41 AM
Volchenkov resigning upon us?

I hope, but I think we wont find out until we know if Cheechoo is claimed or not

SenatorsFC
02-12-2010, 11:50 AM
Murray is on the boat this time!!!!

k8F3UE9qFsg

gmyx
02-12-2010, 11:52 AM
"Jonathan Cheechoo will not accompany the Senators on their two game trip. He is finished in Ottawa"

Bruce Garrioch

guyzeur
02-12-2010, 11:53 AM
So:

Heatley + Picard
for
Michalek + Cullen + Cap Space

..we can hope.

Once the season will be over, it will be more like:

Meszaros + Hossa + (Devries) vs Michalek + Campoli + Kuba + 700k cap space

4 + 5.3 + 0? vs 4.3 + .6 + 3.7
9.3 vs 8.6

OgieO
02-12-2010, 11:57 AM
Presumably, this means another dman coming soon via trade??

Golden
02-12-2010, 11:58 AM
Cheech gave it everything he could. It's just not enough anymore. Best of luck to him where ever he goes, he seems like a great teammate.

Ditto. I feel for the guy. Really good guy and hard worker but he really didn't add anything to this team. I hope another team will pick him up.

Mayor
02-12-2010, 11:58 AM
How the hell am I supposed to study for my lab exam at 1:30 with all this going on? :scared:

Damnit BM, couldn't you wait until after 3 pm to do your wheelin' and dealin'?

BM :shakehead:

Because the roster freeze takes place at 3pm eastern so then he literally wouldnt be able to make any of these moves :sarcasm::D

kyle747
02-12-2010, 11:59 AM
crazy pre-Olympic activity!!!

How am I supposed to do anything when every time I leave my 'puter I get called back by major activity by BM ?

Only thing left is the 'D' BM says he wants to add. Wonder if losing the 'choo was to create cap room?

My understanding is any extension to Volchenkov would not effect this years cap hit in any way, so it wouldn't have been necessary to dump 'choo to re-sign Volchenkov. Is that correct?

Probably obsolete question because by the time it's answered BM will have Shea Weber in an Ottawa jersey :laugh:

pt_mck
02-12-2010, 12:00 PM
Once the season will be over, it will be more like:

Meszaros + Hossa + (Devries) vs Michalek + Campoli + Kuba + 700k cap space

4 + 5.3 + 0? vs 4.3 + .6 + 3.7
9.3 vs 8.6

Not really a fair comparison given how Heatley gave ottawa the middle finger salute.

Assuming Lee gets recalled the sens are still one defenceman short for the weekend with Campoli and Karlsson still injured.

Cheechoio $3.0M + Picard $0.8M = $3.8M

Cullen = $2.78M

Free cap space = $1M (pro-rated)

MAMM0TH1
02-12-2010, 12:01 PM
Hey guys.

Can someone explain exactly what it is meant to be "put on waivers". One thing I'm still confused on. I remember Schubert was put on waivers wasn't he? It seems to lead to a trade usually, but it's not a trade...

(sarcasm and/or noob comments need not respond)

JonnyMacSen
02-12-2010, 12:01 PM
I just hope that if he clears that he's not put on re-entry

The Chef*
02-12-2010, 12:04 PM
Ole ole ole ole!

No. Just, no.

No.


NO.

NO.

:shakehead


GREAT DAY TO BE A SENS FAN

MatthewT
02-12-2010, 12:05 PM
I just hope that if he clears that he's not put on re-entry

I would rather he gets claimed on re-entry then have to buy him out

Xspyrit
02-12-2010, 12:06 PM
No, the AHL does not take a break. B-sens are away Fri/Sat and home on Sun, the Mirabito Outdoor Classic in Syracuse is on Feb 20th against the Crunch.

I think we will be losing Kaspars Daugavins to the Olympics though. He's playing for Latvia.

I hope they sign prospects/AHL players to help Bingo make at least a push for the playoffs. Still possible, they're not too far behind and have games in hand.

possibly this is happening to gain space for re-signing volchy!

I expect something to be done in that regard during the olympic break

Alfredsson11
02-12-2010, 12:06 PM
I think Cheech will get picked up.

Hutz
02-12-2010, 12:07 PM
maybe someone can clear this up for me... if we put him on re-entry and he is claimed, are we on the hook for half his salary for only this season or the remainder of his contract?

ThePylon
02-12-2010, 12:08 PM
Hey guys.

Can someone explain exactly what it is meant to be "put on waivers".

BM: "Hey GMs! Free player!"

...pretty much. The other teams get to pick in inverse order of their standings at some point...

If no teams pick him up, he can get sent to the AHL team. I'm not sure what happens to the Salary - at his age, I beleive we're still on the hook for it, cap-wise. If Ottawa decides to recall him, they must put him on "reentry" waivers, where the process happens gain, but we'll be on the hook for 1/2 of his salary for the rest of this season if someone picks him up. I think for a player like him, BM probably has got reassurances from at least 1 GM that they've got a use for him in the NHL.

JonnyMacSen
02-12-2010, 12:08 PM
I would rather he gets claimed on re-entry then have to buy him out

I would rather he plays out his contract in Bingo so there's no cap hit what so ever, wishfull thinkin I guess, his contract will still be effecting the team one way or another.

MatthewT
02-12-2010, 12:09 PM
maybe someone can clear this up for me... if we put him on re-entry and he is claimed, are we on the hook for half his salary for only this season or the remainder of his contract?

for the rest of his contract.

I would rather he get claimed on re-entry then buy him out.

Leachman
02-12-2010, 12:09 PM
Because the roster freeze takes place at 3pm eastern so then he literally wouldnt be able to make any of these moves :sarcasm::D

Roster freeze is Monday I think it is. Trade moratorium is today I believe it is. Waivers moves/pickups can still be made over the weekend, which means teams have the wekeend to decide whether they want Cheechoo.

FolignoQuantumLeap
02-12-2010, 12:11 PM
I think Cheech will get picked up.

Prepare to have your reality shattered.

Tomorrow's headline: Former 50 goal man clears waivers. Collapse complete.

Blehst*
02-12-2010, 12:11 PM
I must say this is a brilliant move by murray. He's forcing other gm's to take cheechoo ( if they do) before the freeze

NorseCelt
02-12-2010, 12:12 PM
After last night's game I got to go down to the dressing room and get some autographs from some of the Sens and I got Cheechoo, Ruutu, Kelly and Winchester. I don’t know if Cheechoo knew he was going to be placed on waivers? I do remember he didn’t look very happy.

Vrain
02-12-2010, 12:14 PM
I really hope he gets picked by someone and can rejuvenate his career somewhere. It's hard to not cheer him for but frustrating at the same time since he's having such trouble scoring.

MAMM0TH1
02-12-2010, 12:15 PM
BM: "Hey GMs! Free player!"

...pretty much. The other teams get to pick in inverse order of their standings at some point...

If no teams pick him up, he can get sent to the AHL team. I'm not sure what happens to the Salary - at his age, I beleive we're still on the hook for it, cap-wise. If Ottawa decides to recall him, they must put him on "reentry" waivers, where the process happens gain, but we'll be on the hook for 1/2 of his salary for the rest of this season if someone picks him up. I think for a player like him, BM probably has got reassurances from at least 1 GM that they've got a use for him in the NHL.

Thanks Pylon. It's starting to make sense.

Why the inverse order? You mean the team who is the worst in the league gets the first opportunity to pick him up?

If someone does want him, is it really free? or does that teams cap take a hit? Is it half his salary since we would have to pay his other half for the rest of the season?

I don't know how rare it is to be put back on re-entry waivers, but if that somehow did happen, it seems like it would be a huge blow to the players self esteem.

guyzeur
02-12-2010, 12:15 PM
I must say this is a brilliant move by murray. He's forcing other gm's to take cheechoo ( if they do) before the freeze

You can be sure Murray tried to exchange Cheechoo without taking a salary in return. Cheechoo is going down.

Best possible event: he refused, gets suspended without salary :nod:

He retires. End of story with a happy ending for everyone

Mayor
02-12-2010, 12:16 PM
Hey guys.

Can someone explain exactly what it is meant to be "put on waivers". One thing I'm still confused on. I remember Schubert was put on waivers wasn't he? It seems to lead to a trade usually, but it's not a trade...

(sarcasm and/or noob comments need not respond)

It means you don't want the player and other teams can take him off your hands for free, though they take on his contract.

Then there's re-enry waivers where another team can take them for half his salary.

If not, he will stay in binghamton and be paid his full salary

If he is picked off waivers or stays in bingo, his salary comes off our books as far as cap room goes

MAMM0TH1
02-12-2010, 12:19 PM
It means you don't want the player and other teams can take him off your hands for free, though they take on his contract.

Then there's re-enry waivers where another team can take them for half his salary.

If not, he will stay in binghamton and be paid his full salary

If he is picked off waivers or stays in bingo, his salary comes off our books as far as cap room goes

Thanks Mayor.

But how is it 'free' if they have to take on his salary?

Also, if they have to take on his salary, why not just do a normal trade? If no team wants him through a normal trade, why go through this process to see if a team will take him? (where I am confused)

One Trick Pony*
02-12-2010, 12:23 PM
So now would you guys consider Regin, Lee, Cowen and a 2nd for Dustin Penner and Denis Grebeshkov?

Michalek-Spezza-Alfredsson
Penner-Fisher-Kovalev
Foligno-Cullen-Shannon
Ruutu-Kelly-Neil

Phillips-Volchenkov
Kuba-Karlsson
Campoli-Grebeshkov

RedWhiteBlackGold
02-12-2010, 12:25 PM
So now would you guys consider Regin, Lee, Cowen and a 2nd for Dustin Penner and Denis Grebeshkov?

Michalek-Spezza-Alfredsson
Penner-Fisher-Kovalev
Foligno-Cullen-Shannon
Ruutu-Kelly-Neil

Phillips-Volchenkov
Kuba-Karlsson
Campoli-Grebeshkov

God no...

Johnny Hanson
02-12-2010, 12:26 PM
Thanks Mayor.

But how is it 'free' if they have to take on his salary?

Also, if they have to take on his salary, why not just do a normal trade? If no team wants him through a normal trade, why go through this process to see if a team will take him? (where I am confused)

they dont have to give up anything

ThePylon
02-12-2010, 12:26 PM
Thanks Mayor.

But how is it 'free' if they have to take on his salary?

Also, if they have to take on his salary, why not just do a normal trade? If no team wants him through a normal trade, why go through this process to see if a team will take him? (where I am confused)

Yes, they do take on his salary; the 'free' means they don't give anything up for him in trade. Means Murray's tried to trade him and has gotten no takers.

Zorf
02-12-2010, 12:27 PM
Thanks Mayor.

But how is it 'free' if they have to take on his salary?

Also, if they have to take on his salary, why not just do a normal trade? If no team wants him through a normal trade, why go through this process to see if a team will take him? (where I am confused)

It is "free" because the team that picks him up does not have to send anything to Ottawa.

Think of it like Ottawa trading Cheechoo to someone for nothing in return.

The other team assumes the cap hit because they now own the contract.


It would be hard for a GM to justify giving up a draft pick or a prospect for a player like Cheechoo, however, not losing any assets while picking up a guy is easier to justify.

SNAPshot
02-12-2010, 12:27 PM
Hmmm... if he's picked up on re-entry, we're responsible for something like 500k this year and 1.75M next year... Total of 2.25M over the next 2??

Thing is, we buy him out next summer, the buyout is 1M next season... 1M in the one after that. Total of 2M + the remainder of this season (750k).

If someone picks him up we save a bit of cash. These are the logical first steps leading to a buy out this summer for sure if nobody picks him up.

My guess is that we want a bit more space for more defensive help at the deadline and Volchy next season.

MAMM0TH1
02-12-2010, 12:28 PM
Great, thanks guys. I get it now, mostly.

One last thing.

Does anyone know how the process works? Pylon mentioned 'inverse order'. Does that mean each team gets to say "yes" or "no" to the offer in rank 30 - 1?

source
02-12-2010, 12:28 PM
So now would you guys consider Regin, Lee, Cowen and a 2nd for Dustin Penner and Denis Grebeshkov?

Michalek-Spezza-Alfredsson
Penner-Fisher-Kovalev
Foligno-Cullen-Shannon
Ruutu-Kelly-Neil

Phillips-Volchenkov
Kuba-Karlsson
Campoli-Grebeshkov

That's a bit too much. Dustin Penner is no Ilya Kovalchuk.

source
02-12-2010, 12:29 PM
Great, thanks guys. I get it now, mostly.

One last thing.

Does anyone know how the process works? Pylon mentioned 'inverse order'. Does that mean each team gets to say "yes" or "no" to the offer in rank 30 - 1?

If a team wants him, they'll put in a claim. Provided a team lower in the standings has not done the same thing, Cheechoo will report to the team that has claimed him.

SpezDispenser
02-12-2010, 12:30 PM
Presumably, this means another dman coming soon via trade??

Yes please!

ThePylon
02-12-2010, 12:30 PM
Great, thanks guys. I get it now, mostly.

One last thing.

Does anyone know how the process works? Pylon mentioned 'inverse order'. Does that mean each team gets to say "yes" or "no" to the offer in rank 30 - 1?

Any team that wants him claims him - the priority of who gets him is inverse ranked 30-1.

bdp
02-12-2010, 12:34 PM
Let's not get carried away with trades now, the team is flying high, no need to kill the chemistry.

Getting rid of Cheechoo means Volchenkov might re-sign, if anything.

SENSfreak_03
02-12-2010, 12:38 PM
So now would you guys consider Regin, Lee, Cowen and a 2nd for Dustin Penner and Denis Grebeshkov?

Michalek-Spezza-Alfredsson
Penner-Fisher-Kovalev
Foligno-Cullen-Shannon
Ruutu-Kelly-Neil

Phillips-Volchenkov
Kuba-Karlsson
Campoli-Grebeshkov

I actually said **** no, out loud, at my desk.

The Mars Volchenkov
02-12-2010, 12:43 PM
I can't imagine anyone picking him up on waivers, only re-entry waivers.

MAMM0TH1
02-12-2010, 12:47 PM
Great. Appreciate that. Now I'm not in the dark when they say 'has been put on waivers'.

Thanks guys.

Poor guy. Cheech is a hard worker with lots of heart, but slow as s***. He has been given lots of chances to play on good lines. Lots of ice time. But he doesn't do much. I saw him do a nice deek/toe drag when he was playing with Spezza, but that's about as much as you'll get from him

Synthetek
02-12-2010, 12:57 PM
I can't imagine anyone picking him up on waivers, only re-entry waivers.

Islanders might take him.

Leachman
02-12-2010, 12:58 PM
Great. Appreciate that. Now I'm not in the dark when they say 'has been put on waivers'.

Thanks guys.

Poor guy. Cheech is a hard worker with lots of heart, but slow as s***. He has been given lots of chances to play on good lines. Lots of ice time. But he doesn't do much. I saw him do a nice deek/toe drag when he was playing with Spezza, but that's about as much as you'll get from him

Someone mentioned it here once and I laughed. Watching Cheechoo skate reminded me of the tin man and his rusty joints.

OmniSens
02-12-2010, 01:15 PM
Murray!!! :scared:

Eazy T
02-12-2010, 01:28 PM
Needless to say, I honestly believe he's gonna go play in Europe in the near future, think DEL. Its essentially slew footed skater's league.

HockeyTownUSA
02-12-2010, 01:30 PM
True, this is a business and Cheechoo's salary is very high vs. his production. True, there is a deadline that Murray is working with, and while this may sound crazy, it is true that putting Cheech up on the Spezza line led to his demise.

He had 5 shots on goal against Calgary and was not able to net one of them. 2 or 3 of them should have found the back of the net. Easily. Last night against the Caps, after the 1st period he did not look that good.

He showed the brass that he can't be of help on the top lines and his game is not suited for the bottom 6 either. Good move by Murray but too bad for Cheech, a real nice guy.

Xspyrit
02-12-2010, 02:42 PM
So now would you guys consider Regin, Lee, Cowen and a 2nd for Dustin Penner and Denis Grebeshkov?

How about no ****ing way?

I actually said **** no, out loud, at my desk.

I actually called the cops because someone was trying to rob me.

Liliaceae
02-12-2010, 02:46 PM
I feel bad for him, good luck wherever you go Cheech!

SensFanDan
02-12-2010, 03:03 PM
EXCELLENT move by Murray, one of the few I agree with!

DEADWEIGHT contract, finished player!
Waive Leclaire next and you'll have had a hand in building a CHAMPION.

This team's work ethic, speed and tenacity is LIGHT YEARS ahead of most of the Eastern Conference.

Great move Murray!!
:handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap: :handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap: :handclap::handclap::yo::yo::yo::yo::yo::yo::yo::y o::yo::yo::yo::yo::yo:

Raiderman74
02-12-2010, 03:06 PM
EXCELLENT move by Murray, one of the few I agree with!

DEADWEIGHT contract, finished player!
Waive Leclaire next and you'll have had a hand in building a CHAMPION.

This team's work ethic, speed and tenacity is LIGHT YEARS ahead of most of the Eastern Conference.

Great move Murray!!
:handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap: :handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap: :handclap::handclap::yo::yo::yo::yo::yo::yo::yo::y o::yo::yo::yo::yo::yo:


Haha would of thought that we would be saying this with Spezza and Kovalev on the team. Even they have accepted this type of plays. AWESOME!

Kitten Mittons
02-12-2010, 03:09 PM
:cry: Cheechoo Train!!!!!

Was my presence on your board not enough to keep him???

swiftwin
02-12-2010, 03:10 PM
EXCELLENT move by Murray, one of the few I agree with!

DEADWEIGHT contract, finished player!
Waive Leclaire next and you'll have had a hand in building a CHAMPION.

This team's work ethic, speed and tenacity is LIGHT YEARS ahead of most of the Eastern Conference.

Great move Murray!!
:handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap: :handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap: :handclap::handclap::yo::yo::yo::yo::yo::yo::yo::y o::yo::yo::yo::yo::yo:

Are you kidding me? Why am I not surprised to see this crap from you? What happens if/when Elliott plays a bad game or two? We'll need Leclaire then. You are the most extreme one end to the other poster here.

enviro61
02-12-2010, 03:23 PM
Finally, a great move. This makes my day.

Percy LeSueur
02-12-2010, 03:26 PM
Are you kidding me? Why am I not surprised to see this crap from you? What happens if/when Elliott plays a bad game or two? We'll need Leclaire then. You are the most extreme one end to the other poster here.

Seriously dude, way to call him on his ********.

SENSfreak_03
02-12-2010, 03:41 PM
does this mean ottawa shares the title of ******* town with SJ now?

Train train Cheechoo train, Bingo's going to win this game?

Bob Kudelski
02-12-2010, 03:53 PM
That's right off the reservation!!

Icelevel
02-12-2010, 04:00 PM
SJ trade ends up- heatley for michalek and headache.

Nabokov20
02-12-2010, 04:02 PM
didn't check the thread but does anyone have a link aside from the ottawa sun?

edit: never mind its all good and Murray owns!!!!!

Leachman
02-12-2010, 05:38 PM
SJ trade ends up- heatley for michalek and headache.

If you boil it further you get

Heatley & 5th for Michalek, Cullen, Picard dump and cap space (how much is TBD).

Niv
02-12-2010, 06:03 PM
SJ trade ends up- heatley for michalek and headache.

Whatever, we have the division lead and we are winning, that's all that matters.

paulica
02-12-2010, 06:05 PM
does this mean ottawa shares the title of ******* town with SJ now?

Train train Cheechoo train, Bingo's going to win this game?

*chee choo-choo-choo, chee-choo-choo-choo*

K I'm gonna have to be honest here...I really liked the enthusiasm that Cheechoo had when he first came here and his first few weeks here....but unfortunately, nothing else made me like him any more. And trust me, I was rooting for him to do well. It's just when he didn't, oh well, you gotta do what you gotta do.

I feel bad that things didn't work out with him but I'm not sad that he's gone. I can't understand why San Jose fans are so in love with him though. I guess his 2 good seasons and great personality did it?

RedWhiteBlackGold
02-12-2010, 06:55 PM
So when will we know if he clears waivers or is claimed by another team?

bdp
02-12-2010, 07:05 PM
So when will we know if he clears waivers or is claimed by another team?

Was gonna ask the same thing...usually it's 24 hours later but I'm not sure if the freeze changes anything.

Cat Herder
02-12-2010, 07:13 PM
Was gonna ask the same thing...usually it's 24 hours later but I'm not sure if the freeze changes anything.


Garrioch said tomorrow on Twitter

Golden
02-12-2010, 07:39 PM
You are the most extreme one end to the other poster here.

Yeah, that's kind of how trolling works.

Canadian Guy
02-12-2010, 08:49 PM
Sucks for Cheechoo: he had two good games and he gets waived.

danishh
02-13-2010, 01:17 AM
Sucks for Cheechoo: he had two good games and he gets waived.
without those games there is probably no chance he gets claimed.

Codo37
02-13-2010, 03:55 AM
Hi! I don't understand why we put Cheechoo on waivers? Are we over the cap with the Cullen trade? I think Cheechoos game was very underrated at this forum. The little things he does are very good...only goalscoring is the real problem and he has no luck with his shots. Two great save from Kipper against CGY an i count over 10 shots on the post this season. I hope the he clears and can play playoffs for OTT (can he play Playoffs or must he on reentry-waivers?).
Greets form a Sensfan from Germany to all Sensfans on the world!!!

Go Sens Go:handclap:

Pietraneglo222
02-13-2010, 04:48 AM
Hi! I don't understand why we put Cheechoo on waivers? Are we over the cap with the Cullen trade? I think Cheechoos game was very underrated at this forum. The little things he does are very good...only goalscoring is the real problem and he has no luck with his shots. Two great save from Kipper against CGY an i count over 10 shots on the post this season. I hope the he clears and can play playoffs for OTT (can he play Playoffs or must he on reentry-waivers?).
Greets form a Sensfan from Germany to all Sensfans on the world!!!

Go Sens Go:handclap:

Well Cullen has been scoring at a much better and steadier pace. Waiting for Cheechoo to maybe get luckier wasn't the best option here.

trentmccleary
02-13-2010, 09:14 AM
SJ trade ends up- heatley for michalek and headache.

I'm sure that Melnyk loves this one too:

Heatley 07-08 = $10M
Summer Bonus = $4M
Useless Cheech = $7M
$21M for a 132-46-50-96 line over 2 seasons. Heatley ****** this organization over damn good. :madfire: If there's even the slightest bit of moving or bankruptcy talk for this organization in the next 5 years... I hope that Heatley plays us on free puck day soon after.

Alfredsson11
02-13-2010, 09:36 AM
We will find out if he clears or not in less than 1.5 hours.

If he clears, can Murray place him on re-entry today?

Lehner
02-13-2010, 11:36 AM
He cleared, now what happens?

The Expert
02-13-2010, 11:36 AM
he cleared.

****

Mika Silfverberg
02-13-2010, 11:39 AM
he cleared... what happens now?

The Chef*
02-13-2010, 11:43 AM
He plays in the minors.

If he doesn't report, contract gets terminated.

Re-entry waivers is likely possible. Some team is likely gonna claim him. He might be worth 1.5 to some teams looking for some scoring depth especially with his worth ethic. Toronto claim?

Canadian Guy
02-13-2010, 11:49 AM
Cheechoo is a waste of a roster spot.
Why would anyone pick him up?!

OHNOclowe
02-13-2010, 11:49 AM
pumped to see how solid this team will be when Foligno and Karlsson make it back :handclap:

Northern Neighbour
02-13-2010, 12:08 PM
He plays in the minors.

If he doesn't report, contract gets terminated.

Re-entry waivers is likely possible. Some team is likely gonna claim him. He might be worth 1.5 to some teams looking for some scoring depth especially with his worth ethic. Toronto claim?

Cheechoo will report. There's no way he forfeits about $5M in salary that is still owe to him this year and next season.

I also don't see anyone claiming Cheechoo on re-entry waivers since the $1.5M cap hit would still be pretty high. Instead, I could see the Sens working out a deal with another club that sees the Sens take on some salary, sort of like when Calgary acquired Huselius a few years ago.

ZekeA
02-13-2010, 12:37 PM
Cheechoo clears waivers, will join B-Sens
Posted 2/13/2010 1:34 PM EST on pressconnects.com
Ottawa Senators forward Jonathan Cheechoo has cleared waivers and will be assigned to the Binghamton Senators.

My understanding is that he won't make it here in time for tonight's game in Albany, but that he should be here for Sunday evening's home game against Rochester.

Like Drew Bannister's return, this is good timing for Binghamton, as forward Kaspars Daugavins is scheduled to leave the team Sunday morning for Vancouver, where he will join the Latvian national team for the Winter Olympics. Forwards Denis Hamel and Jeremy Yablonski also remain out of the lineup with injuries.

Sensfanman
02-13-2010, 12:45 PM
Man poor Cheech. I know he wasn't good at all anymore, but he's a nice guy and tried his best. He just has no speed anymore...

I really hope he ends up somewhere better than Bingo, either another team or Europe. I still wouldn't say no to a 1M signing down the road, provided he isn't blocking a prospect of some sort.



He also has one of the best last names.

Alfredsson11
02-13-2010, 12:48 PM
Perhaps he will go down to Bingo, play well, and come playoffs when the roster is expanded, he will be back up with the big club for some bottom 6 depth.

The Chef*
02-13-2010, 01:15 PM
I hope he scores a ton of goals in the AHL.

Who knows what some scoring confidence can do for him?

Kitten Mittons
02-13-2010, 02:02 PM
Is there an article with quotes and stuff like that?

Laoghaire
02-13-2010, 02:12 PM
Is it possible at any time to bring him up without him going through re-entry?

MatthewT
02-13-2010, 02:16 PM
Is it possible at any time to bring him up without him going through re-entry?

im pretty sure he can.

What happens come playoff time, if we are right up against the cap can we call him up? I know the year ends when the season ends in terms of contracts counting against your cap hit.

PolkaDave
02-13-2010, 02:20 PM
im pretty sure he can.

What happens come playoff time, if we are right up against the cap can we call him up? I know the year ends when the season ends in terms of contracts counting against your cap hit.

I think you can't claim guys off of waivers after the trade deadline, but I'm not sure.

Niv
02-13-2010, 02:24 PM
I hope Cheechoo doesn't let this demotion get to his head. All he really needs is faster wheels (if possible), a bit of confidence, and a lot of puck luck. It will be interesting to see what he does with his time in Bingo.

Caeldan
02-13-2010, 02:31 PM
I think you can't claim guys off of waivers after the trade deadline, but I'm not sure.

I'm foggy about this, but I think you can - its just either they can't play in the playoffs or they don't report until after the year is over.

I can't remember which.

danishh
02-13-2010, 02:35 PM
I'm foggy about this, but I think you can - its just either they can't play in the playoffs or they don't report until after the year is over.

I can't remember which.
the former.

MatthewT
02-13-2010, 02:36 PM
I think you can't claim guys off of waivers after the trade deadline, but I'm not sure.

that wasn't my question, but you are allowed to claim/put players on waivers after the deadline, just they are ineligible for the playoffs

source
02-13-2010, 02:42 PM
Would any team pick him up on re-entry? Melnyk will probably want to save a few million bucks here, so if no one claims him on re-entry, the next step is a buy-out.

Icelevel
02-13-2010, 03:05 PM
he will get hatricks every game. congrats in advance cheech.

FolignoQuantumLeap
02-13-2010, 03:19 PM
The AHL is going to be great for Cheech. He just needs to learn to finish plays again and get his confidence. The A is the best spot for him to do that as he should be able to keep up with the pace and get significant opportunities to do so.

Sens Rule
02-13-2010, 03:30 PM
Well I like Cheechoo a little. While I do not think he has near justified his contract, I do nto think he is not a possible valuable player on this team come the playoffs. While now he may only be 13th or 14th or 15th on the depth chart, if we go 4 rounds into the playoffs he could be a factor. He also might not even play but he is a vet that works like a dog and has experience and can create some good offensive chances even if he seems to now be unable to finish the goal or the pass a lot of the time.

I watch him and he ends up with the puck behind the net a lot of the time. Too bad he is not Gretzky! But he is the victim of a numbers game. He makes far, far too much money to be as effective as he is. He is still effective, I have no doubt many NHL teams would want him on the roster, just not even at his half contract waiver price which is a cool 1.5 million and actually 1.75 in cash next season. He could be claimed on re-entry but i kind of doubt it.

Here too he faces ridiculous forward depth, Winchester is 13th, Donovan or Cheechoo 14th, Z. Smith 16th. And all would be very decent in a role as 12th forward. All bring different skills to the game and all would legitimately in certain situations depending on who is injured be the first guy to be on the ice if a forward is injured.

Cheechoo is no longer even close to a great player, his skating is horrid but he does bring a tenacity and some effective offensive play, and physical play to the table. I think he gets called up, if they can the last game of the season, or the last time he is eligible to be called up to be on the Sens. Still I think he is gone in some way or form for next year whether it is AHL, Waiver recall or buyout but this year.. he still might figure in our playoff picture.

MatthewT
02-13-2010, 04:16 PM
Just heard on the pre game show that they are still giving Cheechoo his olympic break after this weekend.

Niv
02-13-2010, 04:46 PM
Would any team pick him up on re-entry? Melnyk will probably want to save a few million bucks here, so if no one claims him on re-entry, the next step is a buy-out.

I think a number of teams would be willing to pick him up on re-entry.

source
02-13-2010, 04:56 PM
I think a number of teams would be willing to pick him up on re-entry.

1.75 mil for a guy who has 14 points in 60-odd games? Donovan had 10 points in 65 games last season and was paid close to league minimum.

pt_mck
02-13-2010, 05:02 PM
I was hoping some one would pick him up.

I doubt the sens will put him on re-entry waivers because then they would be on the hook for half his salary against the cap. right?

Spence334
02-13-2010, 05:24 PM
He plays in the minors.

If he doesn't report, contract gets terminated.

Re-entry waivers is likely possible. Some team is likely gonna claim him. He might be worth 1.5 to some teams looking for some scoring depth especially with his worth ethic. Toronto claim?

If he doesn't report, would he become a FA and would other teams be able to sign him? Would the sens be able sign him?

Sens Rule
02-13-2010, 05:29 PM
If he doesn't report, would he become a FA and would other teams be able to sign him? Would the sens be able sign him?

I think No. The Sens could not sign him.. like as if we bought him out.

And I think he is gonna report. He is due 3.5 million. Yes a lower end 6/49 win to play 6 months of hockey. He is gonna report.

inthewings
02-13-2010, 05:29 PM
Anyone else think there's a very real possibility he doesn't report?

fxhomie
02-13-2010, 05:56 PM
No report, no $$$. He may not like it, but he's gonna report...

guyzeur
02-13-2010, 06:09 PM
This will be his last contract in North America, he better reports unless he does not mind loosing 3.5M.

SENSfreak_03
02-13-2010, 06:10 PM
I think Cheech has to much character and heart to not report, he probably wants to keep playing. NHL would be preferred, but this happens, who knows it could help him.

paulica
02-13-2010, 06:11 PM
EDIT: wrong thread

BCVMA
02-13-2010, 08:30 PM
Cheechoo will not play in Binghamton during the Olympic break. Thanks again Murray sisters. Unreal. I will personally help load the trucks to Cornwall if Ottawa will only leave Binghamton. Go Sens Go (to Cornwall this offseason).

source
02-13-2010, 08:51 PM
Cheechoo will not play in Binghamton during the Olympic break. Thanks again Murray sisters. Unreal. I will personally help load the trucks to Cornwall if Ottawa will only leave Binghamton. Go Sens Go (to Cornwall this offseason).

Where'd you here this?

MatthewT
02-13-2010, 08:56 PM
call him up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:scared:

BCVMA
02-13-2010, 09:34 PM
Where'd you here this?

http://www.pressconnects.com/section/PluckPersona?plckPersonaPage=PersonaBlog&plckUserId=35113aac4c7a458894ac4bec54d9f136&U=35113aac4c7a458894ac4bec54d9f136

The Great Below
02-13-2010, 09:37 PM
http://www.pressconnects.com/section/PluckPersona?plckPersonaPage=PersonaBlog&plckUserId=35113aac4c7a458894ac4bec54d9f136&U=35113aac4c7a458894ac4bec54d9f136

wow...

That's ****** for Bingo

BCVMA
02-13-2010, 09:43 PM
wow...

That's ****** for Bingo

I know, we're used to getting screwed, but this is just ridiculous. Read through that blog. Gives you a glimpse of what many in Binghamton feel about the affiliation.

The Great Below
02-13-2010, 10:20 PM
Interested to see how people spin this as a good decision by Murray.

BCVMA
02-13-2010, 10:31 PM
Interested to see how people spin this as a good decision by Murray.

This is just a terrible PR move by Ottawa. If Cheechoo is coming to the AHL, he plays by the AHL schedule. This is yet another FU from Ottawa management to Binghamton, and it is just plain not right.

ZekeA
02-13-2010, 10:32 PM
Who ever did the PR on this 1 in Ottawa messed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ottawa should have just said that right wing Jonathan Cheechoo has been assigned to Binghamton & will report here Feb 28th. Due to personal reasons.......................

What is 1 game here anyway not a dam thing, lack of thinking.............

SelleckStache
02-13-2010, 10:32 PM
Just move the team to Cornwall already

The Great Below
02-13-2010, 10:33 PM
This is just a terrible PR move by Ottawa. If Cheechoo is coming to the AHL, he plays by the AHL schedule. This is yet another FU from Ottawa management to Binghamton, and it is just plain not right.

I agree on this. Have no idea what Murray is thinking here. Bingo fans have a right to be pissed off.

Ski
02-13-2010, 10:42 PM
Just move the team to Cornwall already

Co-signed, enough is enough..

The King of Town
02-13-2010, 10:44 PM
Ottawa should have just said that right wing Jonathan Cheechoo has been assigned to Binghamton & will report here Feb 28th. Due to personal reasons.......................

Just curious, what difference would that make? Why is not assigning him until the 28th okay, but having him play one game then go on with his pre-made plans isn't okay?

I don't see much difference.

ZekeA
02-13-2010, 10:45 PM
Just move the team to Cornwall already

Could we do that this season, then Ottawa could load up Cornwall, & Binghamton would be out of their misery.

ZekeA
02-13-2010, 10:58 PM
Just curious, what difference would that make? Why is not assigning him until the 28th okay, but having him play one game then go on with his pre-made plans isn't okay?

I don't see much difference.

I see it as bad PR, fans here were looking forward to seeing him as we heard he always busts his rear on the ice. We like to see those type of players.

I guess we figured he would be here for 2 weeks not 1 game.........

costermonger
02-13-2010, 11:01 PM
Interested to see how people spin this as a good decision by Murray.

Classy move by B-Mur towards Cheechoo, sucks for Bingo fans. Presumably Cheech has plans with his family for the olympic break, just like most NHLers. It just paints the picture that AHL wins aren't particularly important.. Which is true, to an extent.

The King of Town
02-13-2010, 11:08 PM
I see it as bad PR, fans here were looking forward to seeing him as we heard he always busts his rear on the ice. We like to see those type of players.

I guess we figured he would be here for 2 weeks not 1 game.........

So delaying his start by the entire 2 weeks would have been okay?

Come on Zeke, you're better than this, I know you are. We're paying him millions of dollars to play in the minors, and you're still not happy. This isn't a slap in the face of Bingo fans, this is a classy move by a GM shown to a veteran player who had made plans to see his family over the Olympic break.

It's not always about you. It's not always about us, either. Sometimes it's about the players, who are also human.

Ski
02-13-2010, 11:12 PM
So delaying his start by the entire 2 weeks would have been okay?

Come on Zeke, you're better than this, I know you are. We're paying him millions of dollars to play in the minors, and you're still not happy. This isn't a slap in the face of Bingo fans, this is a classy move by a GM shown to a veteran player who had made plans to see his family over the Olympic break.

It's not always about you. It's not always about us, either. Sometimes it's about the players, who are also human.

You're right to an extent, but after losing 7-0 tonight to Albany and in last place in the division, we have the right to be pissed off and maybe this latest episode is our continuing frustrations w/ our parent club..

MatthewT
02-13-2010, 11:14 PM
He had a vacation planned, classy move by BM. Bingo gets the short end of the stick, but thats the way she goes sometimes. It would be a pretty big slap in the face to Cheechoo to have him to cancel his trip less then a week before hes getting ready for it.

Cheechoo hasn't missed a game all year, a 2 week break will only due him good.

MatthewT
02-13-2010, 11:15 PM
You're right to an extent, but after losing 7-0 tonight to Albany and in last place in the division, we have the right to be pissed off and maybe this latest episode is our continuing frustrations w/ our parent club..

Cheech an't gonna score you 8 goals :sarcasm:

The King of Town
02-13-2010, 11:15 PM
You're right to an extent, but after losing 7-0 tonight to Albany and in last place in the division, we have the right to be pissed off and maybe this latest episode is our continuing frustrations w/ our parent club..

I can see that. Blowout losses are no fun for anyone.

It's too bad some people use situations like this to try and "agitate" and stir **** up.

Ski
02-13-2010, 11:18 PM
He had a vacation planned, classy move by BM. Bingo gets the short end of the stick, but thats the way she goes sometimes. It would be a pretty big slap in the face to Cheechoo to have him to cancel his trip less then a week before hes getting ready for it.

Cheechoo hasn't missed a game all year, a 2 week break will only due him good.

Puuuuulease don't give me any sob stories here, the guy is making more coin then you and me and the entire board makes in 1 year..

Wow..

The King of Town
02-13-2010, 11:22 PM
Puuuuulease don't give me any sob stories here, the guy is making more coin then you and me and the entire board makes in 1 year..

Wow..

Believe me we know, our tickets pay for his salary. Since I don't see anybody picking him up until his contract runs our, it looks like our tickets will continue to pay for his salary for another year, while he plays for you guys.

Hope he works out better for you than he did for us. He's a good guy.

The Chef*
02-13-2010, 11:22 PM
Puuuuulease don't give me any sob stories here, the guy is making more coin then you and me and the entire board makes in 1 year..

Wow..
Cry more.

Sens Rule
02-13-2010, 11:24 PM
Interested to see how people spin this as a good decision by Murray.

Really? This is a class decision. You bascially fire a former star NHLer and say he is going to the minors. And you slide him a little favour seeing as he likely has plans during this break. I don't see this as any kind of bad move by Murray. Sure it might hurt Bingo a bit but that is really not an issue.

This is another in a long line of total class moves by the Sens, like flying the team in a private jet to Chris Neil's mom's funeral, letting the dads hang with their sons for quite awhile, Luke Richardson with a job on the team, Roger Nielsen getting to coach his 1000 game here. Part of the reason why this is a good team to play for. And I think most NHLers know that Ottawa may not be a fun town but it is a class organization committed to it's players and to winning.

Ski
02-13-2010, 11:32 PM
Cry more.



Nah, I got better things to do w/ my life, just venting..

ZekeA
02-13-2010, 11:57 PM
So delaying his start by the entire 2 weeks would have been okay?

Come on Zeke, you're better than this, I know you are. We're paying him millions of dollars to play in the minors, and you're still not happy. This isn't a slap in the face of Bingo fans, this is a classy move by a GM shown to a veteran player who had made plans to see his family over the Olympic break.

It's not always about you. It's not always about us, either. Sometimes it's about the players, who are also human.

Well King I have my moments just a bad day with the blowout Ect.....

To be honest I wish that he was playing better & was not waived, as he works hard every game.

I only want a vet like him down here for 2 weeks conditioning no longer + it is
nice to say I saw him play here.

At times I forget the players are human just like we are...... Well they are super human to play this hard & at times cruel sport of hockey.........

Yes after his hard season he could use 2 weeks away, with family, away from hockey....................

The way Ottawa is playing I would not have made any changes, but I am not the GM, thank God. B Murray has toooooooooo dam many headaches + he is still young compared to me..................

As for Bingo I thought they were going to be pretty good this year just never materialized that way. Game is played on ice not paper................ Or it could just show what I know or don't know I guess............

costermonger
02-14-2010, 12:03 AM
Puuuuulease don't give me any sob stories here, the guy is making more coin then you and me and the entire board makes in 1 year..

Wow..

Doesn't matter how much you make, it doesn't make your wife/girlfriend/SO/mom etc any less pissed when your vacation gets yanked at the desire of your boss. Trust me.

Murray is giving Cheech a break in exchange for being demoted instead of salting the wound.

Rooverick*
02-14-2010, 08:11 AM
How anyone not associated with the BSens could look at this as anything but a class move is beyond me. I understand the frustration for the fans of the Sens affiliate, however this is a great move for the Sens. This kind of thing goes a long way in establishing the Sens as the kind of team an NHLer wants to be associated with.

Well done Murray. Once again your years of experience pay off by helping you do the right thing for your team.

The Great Below
02-14-2010, 08:50 AM
Really? This is a class decision. You bascially fire a former star NHLer and say he is going to the minors. And you slide him a little favour seeing as he likely has plans during this break. I don't see this as any kind of bad move by Murray. Sure it might hurt Bingo a bit but that is really not an issue.

This is another in a long line of total class moves by the Sens, like flying the team in a private jet to Chris Neil's mom's funeral, letting the dads hang with their sons for quite awhile, Luke Richardson with a job on the team, Roger Nielsen getting to coach his 1000 game here. Part of the reason why this is a good team to play for. And I think most NHLers know that Ottawa may not be a fun town but it is a class organization committed to it's players and to winning.

To me it shows that despite Bingo being in a playoff race, that Murray does not care if they make the playoffs. I don't know why Bingo fans would pay to see that team anymore.

Bingo's last 20GP, 7-11-1
Outscored 78-53 over that span

Cheechoo clears and finally Bingo fans are happy they are getting some support...

But as it turns out they are wrong, why? Because Cheechoo is better then the AHL despite clearing waivers. As a reward for his play that got him waived in the first place he get's two weeks off.

CapitalCityGoofball
02-14-2010, 08:54 AM
Nah, gotta disagree with you here Fuhr.

BM doing Cheech a solid is all it is. Why kick a man when he's down?

MatthewT
02-14-2010, 08:57 AM
To me it shows that despite Bingo being in a playoff race, that Murray does not care if they make the playoffs. I don't know why Bingo fans would pay to see that team anymore.

Bingo's last 20GP, 7-11-1
Outscored 78-53 over that span

Cheechoo clears and finally Bingo fans are happy they are getting some support...

But as it turns out they are wrong, why? Because Cheechoo is better then the AHL despite clearing waivers. As a reward for his play that got him waived in the first place he get's two weeks off.

I understand why Bingo fans would be upset, but Cheechoo deserves a break just like all the other NHLers. This says alot about the player relations with management in Ottawa, I think Murray is doing the right thing.

The Great Below
02-14-2010, 09:01 AM
Nah, gotta disagree with you here Fuhr.

BM doing Cheech a solid is all it is. Why kick a man when he's down?

It's Cheechoo own fault, he was given countless opportunities to succeed but continually failed.
He was then offered to the rest of the league for free, nobody wanted him.

So you reward the dude with a two week vacation when the farm team desperately needs something.

Nobody wanted him for free, he is not a NHL player any more. He was sent down, he loses his NHL privileges. It's his own fault with the way he played.

The Great Below
02-14-2010, 09:03 AM
I understand why Bingo fans would be upset, but Cheechoo deserves a break just like all the other NHLers. This says alot about the player relations with management in Ottawa, I think Murray is doing the right thing.

But he is not a NHLer anymore. Nobody wanted him for free.

DEATHtrap
02-14-2010, 09:04 AM
To me it shows that despite Bingo being in a playoff race, that Murray does not care if they make the playoffs. I don't know why Bingo fans would pay to see that team anymore.

Bingo's last 20GP, 7-11-1
Outscored 78-53 over that span

Cheechoo clears and finally Bingo fans are happy they are getting some support...

But as it turns out they are wrong, why? Because Cheechoo is better then the AHL despite clearing waivers. As a reward for his play that got him waived in the first place he get's two weeks off.

This is not a punitive action by Murray. The Sens are dealing with a one time great goal scorer who has fallen off because circumstances outside his control, injuries. The effort level has always been there. Cheechoo is at critical time in his career, possibly fighting for another contract and opportunity to play in the NHL. Giving him some time to regroup and refocus during an already pre-planned trip is class move by organization. We are dealing with people here.

guyzeur
02-14-2010, 09:07 AM
To me it shows that despite Bingo being in a playoff race, that Murray does not care if they make the playoffs. I don't know why Bingo fans would pay to see that team anymore.

Bingo's last 20GP, 7-11-1
Outscored 78-53 over that span

Cheechoo clears and finally Bingo fans are happy they are getting some support...

But as it turns out they are wrong, why? Because Cheechoo is better then the AHL despite clearing waivers. As a reward for his play that got him waived in the first place he get's two weeks off.

You`re mistaken talent and effort, he doesn`t have it anymore. This is a reward for his effort, he did not get waived because he was lazy.

Murray is doing Bingo a favor, he won`t score more in the AHL

The Great Below
02-14-2010, 09:10 AM
You`re mistaken talent and effort, he doesn`t have it anymore. This is a reward for his effort, he did not get waived because he was lazy.

Murray is doing Bingo a favor, he won`t score more in the AHL

Denis Hamel could not score in NHL, crappy skater but lit up the AHL.

Alfredsson11
02-14-2010, 09:13 AM
You`re mistaken talent and effort, he doesn`t have it anymore. This is a reward for his effort, he did not get waived because he was lazy.

Murray is doing Bingo a favor, he won`t score more in the AHL

You actually believe that, :laugh:

TheBandWagon
02-14-2010, 09:54 AM
sorry if this has already been asked, but come playoff time could we recall cheechoo or would he have to go through waivers? like say due to injuries or something?

Alfredsson11
02-14-2010, 10:21 AM
sorry if this has already been asked, but come playoff time could we recall cheechoo or would he have to go through waivers? like say due to injuries or something?

I know that the roster expans, but im not sure how the cap works then, too lazy to look through the CBA

guyzeur
02-14-2010, 11:11 AM
You actually believe that, :laugh:

:nod:

The OttoMan Lion
02-14-2010, 11:23 AM
Nah, I got better things to do w/ my life, just venting..

In Binghamton?? :laugh:

Yelnats Puc
02-14-2010, 11:43 AM
In Binghamton?? :laugh:

Out of curiosity, have you actually ever been to Binghamton?

Rooverick*
02-14-2010, 01:09 PM
Fuhr is just stirring the pot. Even he's not idiotic enough to believe the crap he's spewing here.

JimmyPage
02-14-2010, 01:25 PM
Fuhr is just stirring the pot. Even he's not idiotic enough to believe the crap he's spewing here.

x2

This nothing but a class move.

Yelnats Puc
02-14-2010, 01:34 PM
Even he's not idiotic enough to believe the crap he's spewing here.

I wouldn't bet against it.

shibster
02-14-2010, 01:41 PM
Fuhr posts contentious opinions in order to spur discussion/get attention. Anyone who doesn't realize this is likely still in highschool.

Spezza19
02-14-2010, 03:41 PM
As unfortunate as it is, Cheech is now exactly where he belongs and this was a long time coming. I feel bad for the guy that all his hard work never paid off but it happens. He had his moments and can always take solace in knowing he led the NHL in goals one year. It would be an amazing story if he made it back from this and worked his way up, but I think I'd put more stock into winning the lottery than that happening at this point.

Keep playing hard in Bingo buddy. All the power to ya!

Icelevel
02-14-2010, 04:50 PM
As unfortunate as it is, Cheech is now exactly where he belongs and this was a long time coming. I feel bad for the guy that all his hard work never paid off but it happens. He had his moments and can always take solace in knowing he led the NHL in goals one year. It would be an amazing story if he made it back from this and worked his way up, but I think I'd put more stock into winning the lottery than that happening at this point.

Keep playing hard in Bingo buddy. All the power to ya!

Cheechoo will be back. If no one else wants him, then you can count on the leafs picking him up. He will play on their second line and make the senators pay every time they play us, Burkie laughing all the way.

I can't believe how unappreciated this guy is. Ok, i believe it, i just don't agree with it. And Brian Murray saying that he had chances in the calgary game, but still couldn't finish is very worrying to me. He was the #1 star, set up the game winner and was completely robbed by Kiprusoff twice. And the gm says, yeah, but he still didn't score. He did score, twice, but Kipper stole them from him. I like BM but that comment doesn't make sense to me. He sounds as ignorant as anyone else here that says cheechoo never contributed.

'JESUS' Joe-Corvo
02-14-2010, 05:23 PM
Cheechoo will be back. If no one else wants him, then you can count on the leafs picking him up. He will play on their second line and make the senators pay every time they play us, Burkie laughing all the way.

I can't believe how unappreciated this guy is. Ok, i believe it, i just don't agree with it. And Brian Murray saying that he had chances in the calgary game, but still couldn't finish is very worrying to me. He was the #1 star, set up the game winner and was completely robbed by Kiprusoff twice. And the gm says, yeah, but he still didn't score. He did score, twice, but Kipper stole them from him. I like BM but that comment doesn't make sense to me. He sounds as ignorant as anyone else here that says cheechoo never contributed.

It's not that he was absolutely horrible, it's just that we have 12 or 13 guys that are all better than he is, and most of them make less money. Guys like Neil, Ruutu and Kelly have more goals and points than Cheech all while playing in less offensive opportunities.

One thing that can't be denied is that Cheech was given every opportunity to succeed, and he couldn't do much with it other than work his ass off... that only goes so far without results.

I can tell you really like Cheechoo, and as a man so do I, but, 30 gms don't agree with you since they didnt even want him for free.

Alfredsson11
02-14-2010, 05:32 PM
Cheechoo got his first

Alfredsson11
02-14-2010, 05:33 PM
**** Regin, if your gonna get him, make it worth while

OmniSens
02-14-2010, 06:25 PM
Maybe he'll find his game back down here...could do him some good...we can still recall him right?

utah
02-14-2010, 06:31 PM
Bingo wins 4-2. Cheechoo with a goal and assist, 5 shots and a plus 2.

The Great Below
02-14-2010, 06:40 PM
Bingo wins 4-2. Cheechoo with a goal and assist, 5 shots and a plus 2.

lol now gone for 2 weeks

JimmyPage
02-14-2010, 06:49 PM
lol now gone for 2 weeks

Enough. I think you have made your point that few agree with. :shakehead

Spezza19
02-14-2010, 06:49 PM
lol now gone for 2 weeks

Nice Cheech! :handclap:

MatthewT
02-14-2010, 06:52 PM
lol now gone for 2 weeks

I think its only 8 days or so, so probably no more then 4 games...

poutineplato
02-14-2010, 06:53 PM
Hopefully cheech proves himself enough in the ahl for an nhl team to take a chance on him after the Sens buy him out.

If he takes near the league minimum he might get another shot.

MatthewT
02-14-2010, 07:12 PM
Hopefully cheech proves himself enough in the ahl for an nhl team to take a chance on him after the Sens buy him out.

If he takes near the league minimum he might get another shot.

Thats what your hoping for?

Im hoping that a NHL team will want him pretty soon if he has a good stretch in bingo if not then Murray puts him on reentry in the summer and he is claimed. I would rather him be put on re entry then bought out

Tundraman
02-14-2010, 07:36 PM
Thats what your hoping for?

Im hoping that a NHL team will want him pretty soon if he has a good stretch in bingo if not then Murray puts him on reentry in the summer and he is claimed. I would rather him be put on re entry then bought out

The Sens will probably buy him out otherwise they pay 1/2 of his final year salary (about $1.9M) and split the cap hit with his new team ($1.5M) (They're different because Cheechoo's salary is back-end loaded which many top guys have in reverse to take more up-front money). In his case his real salary will be higher than the cap hit in his final year. If they buy him out they pay 2/3 of his final year salary (about $2.5M ) but can spread the cap hit (2/3 of $3M = $2M) over 3 years. If they decide to leave him in Bingo they pay the full salary but don't have a cap hit while he plays there. So Murray has options depending on the cap situation next year and how much cash Mr Melnych is willing to bury .

aragorn
02-14-2010, 08:59 PM
If the Sens bring Cheechoo back on re-entry & another team picks him off the waiver wire than Ottawa is stuck with paying half his salary & it counts against the cap, right? But if he stays in the minors his salary will not count against the cap & they can use the full salary to acquire another player, right? So it would be in Ottawa's best interest to keep him in the minors & use his full salary to acquire as much as they can before the trade deadline, wouldn't it? And for that reason IMO Cheechoo will be in Bingo for the rest of the season.

Flamingo
02-14-2010, 09:05 PM
I prefer that Cheechoo finds his scoring touch again while in Bingo, then fills in for injury replacement on the Sens late in the season, and helps them win win win. With all due compassion to B-Sens fans for being treated like a farm team.

Icelevel
02-14-2010, 09:07 PM
I prefer that Cheechoo finds his scoring touch again while in Bingo, then fills in for injury replacement on the Sens late in the season, and helps them win win win. With all due compassion to B-Sens fans for being treated like a farm team.

someone (the leafs) will grab him on re-entry.

Xspyrit
02-15-2010, 01:48 AM
Wow, this thread is something special

I don't get why some people don't understand the simple notion of respect. The Sens showed a lot of respect to Cheechoo. Life sucks for him right now (well regarding his career at least) and they let him go see his family, who is the most important in life.

Classy move by B-Mur towards Cheechoo, sucks for Bingo fans. Presumably Cheech has plans with his family for the olympic break, just like most NHLers. It just paints the picture that AHL wins aren't particularly important.. Which is true, to an extent.

Well, you're totally bang on. It only takes a couple seconds to realize this. Murray thinks about the Ottawa's team reputation first and i'm prefectly happy with that. How fortunate we are that Alexei Kovalev signed with the Sens... Respect

Sorry for Bingo but that's just how the business work. Maybe they failed to bring back Bingo to the playoffs (although they have games in hand and there is time left) but the important thing for an organization is the NHL team and it is working up here.

How anyone not associated with the BSens could look at this as anything but a class move is beyond me. I understand the frustration for the fans of the Sens affiliate, however this is a great move for the Sens. This kind of thing goes a long way in establishing the Sens as the kind of team an NHLer wants to be associated with.

Well done Murray. Once again your years of experience pay off by helping you do the right thing for your team.

Fuhr's agenda against Murray is so ridiculous, it's bigger than the Sens board i think :laugh:

He is like a BM predator waiting for any little mistake he could make to rant on him. It brings discussion maybe but most of time it is making **** out of nothing.

Spezza19
02-15-2010, 01:58 AM
Hope Cheech has a good break, gets some rest, re-focuses, gets motivated to do well in Bingo and prove himself all over again and somehow ends up earning his way back up and surprises everyone. It seems far fetched but as many people keep pointing out, he could actually play a pretty key role in the playoffs. He's just gotta work on his timing and hopefully he'll start scoring a few.

He really does seem like the type of guy that when he is down, he's not out and just when all seems bleak he comes back as the ultimate feel good story.

MatthewT
02-15-2010, 05:41 AM
Hes staying positive atleast.

http://www.ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/2010/02/15/12883266-sun.html

"I haven't played (in the AHL) in about seven or so years, but regardless, it's still hockey and I had a lot of fun out there. And it was great to get a goal and help the team win."

MHX
02-15-2010, 08:50 AM
I love Cheechoo's attitude!

sens83
02-15-2010, 08:55 AM
I love Cheechoo's attitude!

THAT is the difference between someone who is an NHLer and someone like Brian Lee who doesn't put forth the effort.

Cheechoo came out onto the ice in Bingo and he looked like a cut above the rest. He looked like he didn't belong. His puck handling was amazing and he skated circles around everyone.

This is why I'm so irritated with Brian Lee, because he does not look like that. But when he reaches the NHL level all of a sudden his game changes. I watched the Red Wings/Sens game the other night and let me tell you Lee looked good, but that is NOT how he was playing in Binghamton.

Thank you Cheechoo for giving it your best regardless of what level you are playing at. That's all we as fans ask! Selfishly I hope we get him for a few more games after his vacation.

pt_mck
02-15-2010, 09:02 AM
THAT is the difference between someone who is an NHLer and someone like Brian Lee who doesn't put forth the effort.

Cheechoo came out onto the ice in Bingo and he looked like a cut above the rest. He looked like he didn't belong. His puck handling was amazing and he skated circles around everyone.

This is why I'm so irritated with Brian Lee, because he does not look like that. But when he reaches the NHL level all of a sudden his game changes. I watched the Red Wings/Sens game the other night and let me tell you Lee looked good, but that is NOT how he was playing in Binghamton.

Thank you Cheechoo for giving it your best regardless of what level you are playing at. That's all we as fans ask! Selfishly I hope we get him for a few more games after his vacation.

Lee is caught in a bad situation (2-way contract). He was outperforming Karlsson, Picard and Campoli when he was sent down at the beginning of the year.

With the sens cap space it is unlikely Cheechoo will be recalled.

sens83
02-15-2010, 09:06 AM
Lee is caught in a bad situation (2-way contract). He was outperforming Karlsson, Picard and Campoli when he was sent down at the beginning of the year.

With the sens cap space it is unlikely Cheechoo will be recalled.

Sorry, I just don't buy it. I think it's an attitude issue. If Lee is as good as all of you Ottawa homeboys say he is, he sure didn't show it in Bingo. He made is his paycheck just the same, and I think he felt content with that.

Cheechoo is at least TRYING to prove he belongs in the NHL. If Lee was truly outperforming and belonged in the NHL then he would have been there.

poutineplato
02-15-2010, 09:14 AM
Thats what your hoping for?

Im hoping that a NHL team will want him pretty soon if he has a good stretch in bingo if not then Murray puts him on reentry in the summer and he is claimed. I would rather him be put on re entry then bought out

That would be great, but I wouldn't bank on it.

Nestea
02-15-2010, 09:51 AM
So what if he tears it up, and we want him back up with the big club? Does he have to go on re-call waivers?

kyle747
02-15-2010, 09:55 AM
Sorry, I just don't buy it. I think it's an attitude issue. If Lee is as good as all of you Ottawa homeboys say he is, he sure didn't show it in Bingo. He made is his paycheck just the same, and I think he felt content with that.

Cheechoo is at least TRYING to prove he belongs in the NHL. If Lee was truly outperforming and belonged in the NHL then he would have been there.

I'm not sure what you are saying there. Doesn't Lee make more ca$h playing in the NHL?

People have been puzzling over the fact Lee looks better in the NHL vs AHL for a couple of seasons. Not sure why......

Cat Herder
02-15-2010, 10:22 AM
So what if he tears it up, and we want him back up with the big club? Does he have to go on re-call waivers?

Yes he does

mat_sens
02-15-2010, 10:22 AM
I'm not sure what you are saying there. Doesn't Lee make more ca$h playing in the NHL?

People have been puzzling over the fact Lee looks better in the NHL vs AHL for a couple of seasons. Not sure why......

He makes 62,500$ in the AHL and 850,000$ in the NHL excluding bonuses.

slamigo
02-15-2010, 11:16 AM
I can't believe that anyone is feeling sorry for a guy who got to play 500 NHL games and will have collected $13,725,000. Injuries will have certainly played a role in limiting his playing career, but I simply cannot feel sorry for him. He has taken care of his family for generations to come.
This year alone, he was paid nearly $4000 USD for every shift of ice time. It's not too hard to have a good attitude when the money keeps rolling in every two weeks.

poutineplato
02-15-2010, 11:29 AM
Enough. I think you have made your point that few agree with. :shakehead

You forget who you're quoting. He's the king of :deadhorse

Icelevel
02-15-2010, 03:06 PM
http://www.wicz.com/news/video.asp?video=02-14-10+sports.wmv.flv&zone=Sports



thanks for link, ski.