Time to see Marchand

Was not impressed with Thorton's game again tonight.

Carcillo taking liberties on Bruin players and Thorton is no where to be found. I think if Thorton would have taken him on in the latter part of the 2nd period, the Bruins would have developed even more momentum.

Marchand at least would bring more speed and more of a threat to score.
Thorton just seems too slow and even though he had a chance right off the bat in the game, he was pretty quiet for the rest of the game.
If he is going to play he needs to be a physical presence.

Bring on Marchand!

we need my boy in there to **** up carcillo

Thornton should have lined up against Carcillo on the opening draw.

You weren't impressed with Thornton's game?

He got the two first shots of the game, one of them a great chance. He actually had 3 shots, which was second highest on the team.

Oh and he did that in only 4:22.

You weren't impressed with the hand full of shifts he had? Lol there wasn't really anything to be impressed about, or not impressed about. He played 4th line minutes.

Speaking of the chump ( carcillo) he said that savard bit him...

what is it that people see in marchand, other than an inane amount of minor penalties, decent chippiness, and average top end speed

the penalties alone makes me think that whitfield would be preferable if only for pk duty

christ, bring up sauve if you want speed

Not going to happen. Get it out of your mind.

Was not impressed with Thorton's game again tonight.

Carcillo taking liberties on Bruin players and Thorton is no where to be found. I think if Thorton would have taken him on in the latter part of the 2nd period, the Bruins would have developed even more momentum.

Marchand at least would bring more speed and more of a threat to score.
Thorton just seems too slow and even though he had a chance right off the bat in the game, he was pretty quiet for the rest of the game.
If he is going to play he needs to be a physical presence.

Bring on Marchand!

Gee. He sucked THAT much in his whopping 4:22 of ice?

SERIOUSLY??

Not on the ice for any goals allowed. Didn't give the puck up at all. Played his role as well as is possible defensively. Offensively I thought he was VERY active. Took 3 shots and played hard.

As for Marchand. Saying he is more of a threat to score than Thornton is like saying the turtle could beat the tortoise in a marathon. Yeah, its probably true, but I dont think we have to worry about either one actually happening.

Seriously, I thought Thornton did a very nice job.

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He played just over 4 minutes because Claude doesn't trust him. If he can't contribute than maybe he should not play.
Marchand is a young kid that is known to be a big game player.
I can't see why we won't try him out.
Nothing to lose, always everything to gain.

remer---

I hate to say it...but I feel like you were waiting to make this topic...as in, it didn't really matter how Shawn Thornton played tonight...

He did his job...there's really nothing that happened that you can say "he should have done something"...people jump all over him for dropping the gloves and getting 2 for roughing all the time while the other guy gets nothing; I'm not sure what exactly is expected of him...he was doing his job with the limited amount of ice time he had tonight and had a couple GREAT scoring chances...

Don't get me wrong...I'd love to see Marchand take his spot, but this whole phenomenon with not giving players a chance in the first place just to push an already planned agenda is foolishness.

No reason to change the forward lineup at this stage.

Well when Carcillo is roughing up Begin and tackling Savard, don't you think our enforcer should do something about that. Carcillo is puke and deserved a beating.
Perfect opportunity to get the fans to appreciate what he gives to this team. But nothing.
My point is why didn't Julien let Thorton go after Carcillo? Or even Hartnell for his hit on Boychuk? Make these guys think twice next time they want to hurt our players.

Happy about the win, but if they are not going to use Thorton for what he is good at than don't use him a t all.

remer---

I hate to say it...but I feel like you were waiting to make this topic...as in, it didn't really matter how Shawn Thornton played tonight...

He did his job...there's really nothing that happened that you can say "he should have done something"...people jump all over him for dropping the gloves and getting 2 for roughing all the time while the other guy gets nothing; I'm not sure what exactly is expected of him...he was doing his job with the limited amount of ice time he had tonight and had a couple GREAT scoring chances...

Don't get me wrong...I'd love to see Marchand take his spot, but this whole phenomenon with not giving players a chance in the first place just to push an already planned agenda is foolishness.

Exactly.

And I'll take it further and say that Brad Marchand would NOT have done any of the things that Thornton was supposodly not doing.

NO WAY he takes on Carcillo either. The rookie would have done so if he were TOLD to do it. But no way he would have just taken it upon himself to do it in a playoff game.

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Well when Carcillo is roughing up Begin and tackling Savard, don't you think our enforcer should do something about that. Carcillo is puke and deserved a beating.
Perfect opportunity to get the fans to appreciate what he gives to this team. But nothing.
My point is why didn't Julien let Thorton go after Carcillo? Or even Hartnell for his hit on Boychuk? Make these guys think twice next time they want to hurt our players.

Happy about the win, but if they are not going to use Thorton for what he is good at than don't use him a t all.

But thats a different topic. Thats not what you said.

In your post, you were blaming Thornton for not fighting. NOW, your saying its Juliens fault.

I don't know how to debate this one, as I don't know which side you want to take!

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Well when Carcillo is roughing up Begin and tackling Savard, don't you think our enforcer should do something about that. Carcillo is puke and deserved a beating.

^This.

Well when Carcillo is roughing up Begin and tackling Savard, don't you think our enforcer should do something about that. Carcillo is puke and deserved a beating.
Perfect opportunity to get the fans to appreciate what he gives to this team. But nothing.
My point is why didn't Julien let Thorton go after Carcillo? Or even Hartnell for his hit on Boychuk? Make these guys think twice next time they want to hurt our players.

Happy about the win, but if they are not going to use Thorton for what he is good at than don't use him a t all.

SERIOUSLY????

That hit was 100% clean! Hartnell made a perfectly legal hit on Boychuk.

Boychuks hit on Ellis was even more violent and almost everyone here said that that was absolutely 100% clean.

This one was too.

Why would you send an enforcer after someone who delivered a great clean hit?

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You weren't impressed with Thornton's game?

He got the two first shots of the game, one of them a great chance. He actually had 3 shots, which was second highest on the team.

Oh and he did that in only 4:22.

You weren't impressed with the hand full of shifts he had? Lol there wasn't really anything to be impressed about, or not impressed about. He played 4th line minutes.

This^

He threw some decent hits and stuck to his game. He played just like a 4th liner should.

Well when Carcillo is roughing up Begin and tackling Savard, don't you think our enforcer should do something about that. Carcillo is puke and deserved a beating.
Perfect opportunity to get the fans to appreciate what he gives to this team. But nothing.
My point is why didn't Julien let Thorton go after Carcillo? Or even Hartnell for his hit on Boychuk? Make these guys think twice next time they want to hurt our players.

Happy about the win, but if they are not going to use Thorton for what he is good at than don't use him a t all.

The bolded is the big issue. We all know he deserves a beating, but from what we saw tonight AND what we've seen in the past, you don't think Carcillo would do anything he could to try to draw a penalty on Thornton and only Thornton when Shawn went after him? As much as we'd all love to see them fight, it's perfectly conceivable that in a playoff hockey game and with the game that occurred tonight, it just wasn't right.

Like I said...I wouldn't be the least bit disappointed to see Marchand in their next game. But, let's be fair. While it's nothing in terms of hockey sense, Shawn Thornton's presence is certainly known when he is in the lineup and on the ice by Carcillo and others. Who knows what Carcillo and others may not do with an enforcer on the ice?

Thornton played well. The 4th line started it off big in terms of momentum.

Yes, he should get in a fight at some point, but it will happen.

Also, Carcill somehow managed to draw 2 penalties on the Bruins already tonight. Not sure going after him and watching him act would have been a smart move in such a close game.

Well when Carcillo is roughing up Begin and tackling Savard, don't you think our enforcer should do something about that. Carcillo is puke and deserved a beating.
Perfect opportunity to get the fans to appreciate what he gives to this team. But nothing.
My point is why didn't Julien let Thorton go after Carcillo? Or even Hartnell for his hit on Boychuk? Make these guys think twice next time they want to hurt our players.

Happy about the win, but if they are not going to use Thorton for what he is good at than don't use him a t all.

2mins roughing - Begin

2 mins instigating - Thornton

5mins fighting - Thornton


9 min PP for the Flyers = game over.

We all know Laviolette loves diving and hates fighting so you know he is telling Carcillo to flop whenever possible. I don't remember Carcillo being a diver under Stevens or in Phoenix but he definitely is now.

I'm pissed at Thornton for not lining up against Carcillo on the opening draw, but what you are saying would have been bad news for the Bruins,.

no proof but my guess is these refs made it clear that whichever team started extra-curiculars would get punished. That marginal call on Wheeler was a ref's message. Things started out rough and they didn't want it. Thornton was kept under wraps because JC knew the Bruins would get the worst of it. So Carcillo gets to run around and fake injuries, and Briere gets to dive as a result.

My feeling is that the Bruins PK can handle the Flyers 1 man down but 2 down is pushing it. I think the B's played it smart. Even though I want to see Carcillo get tuned, I think the right place for that is in Philly. Drub him in front of his own fans and put the lot of them in their place. I would love for it to be Wheeler to man up, but that is wishful thinking.

Steve Hanson: Dave's a killer!
Johnny Upton: Dave's a mess.

Was not impressed with Thorton's game again tonight.

Carcillo taking liberties on Bruin players and Thorton is no where to be found. I think if Thorton would have taken him on in the latter part of the 2nd period, the Bruins would have developed even more momentum.

Marchand at least would bring more speed and more of a threat to score.
Thorton just seems too slow and even though he had a chance right off the bat in the game, he was pretty quiet for the rest of the game.
If he is going to play he needs to be a physical presence.

Bring on Marchand!

i'm less impressed with your posts and "knowledge".

also, his name is thorNton...jeezus - at least spell the guy's name right if you're gonna rip on him.

as for the bolded part, i honestly can do nothing but :laugh: he had a great shift to open the game, but then he was "pretty quiet"? i guess it's thornton's fault that he played less than 5 minutes. he should've made much more noise than he did. please get a clue before making stupid threads.

I thought Thornton played one of his best games in a long time.

i'm less impressed with your posts and "knowledge".

also, his name is thorNton...jeezus - at least spell the guy's name right if you're gonna rip on him.

as for the bolded part, i honestly can do nothing but :laugh: he had a great shift to open the game, but then he was "pretty quiet"? i guess it's thornton's fault that he played less than 5 minutes. he should've made much more noise than he did. please get a clue before making stupid threads.

And I swear that THIS isnt me either lol

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Gee. He sucked THAT much in his whopping 4:22 of ice?

SERIOUSLY??

Not on the ice for any goals allowed. Didn't give the puck up at all. Played his role as well as is possible defensively. Offensively I thought he was VERY active. Took 3 shots and played hard.

As for Marchand. Saying he is more of a threat to score than Thornton is like saying the turtle could beat the tortoise in a marathon. Yeah, its probably true, but I dont think we have to worry about either one actually happening.

Seriously, I thought Thornton did a very nice job.

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this.

i mean is this a serious thread???? did you even watch the game???

And I swear that THIS isnt me either lol

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someone needed to call out this asshat. it's been years of just terrible threads from the guy. since i can't bite his hand, i use the written word ;)

We need Thornton out there, especially going into that dump. We also need him to do his JOB. If Carcillo is running around like a *****, Thornton has to lay some wood to Briere or Richards.

If Marchand gets in it is for Paille but that is not happening either. What we need is for Blake Wheeler to get his **** together enough to move back up into the top 6 and move Paille back to the 4th line.

Was not impressed with Thorton's game again tonight.

Carcillo taking liberties on Bruin players and Thorton is no where to be found. I think if Thorton would have taken him on in the latter part of the 2nd period, the Bruins would have developed even more momentum.

Marchand at least would bring more speed and more of a threat to score.
Thorton just seems too slow and even though he had a chance right off the bat in the game, he was pretty quiet for the rest of the game.
If he is going to play he needs to be a physical presence.

Bring on Marchand!

You have no clue.

some terrible threads here tonight.


people need to stop cheering for the ideas in their heads.

thornton played his best game of the playoffs.

some terrible threads here tonight.


people need to stop cheering for the ideas in their heads.

thornton played his best game of the playoffs.

Agree. I like Marchand but Thornton had a great game last night. No need to replace him. I was surprised to see he got only 4 minutes of ice time because he sure made an impact. That 4th line was awesome.

This is really getting tiresome. Imagine the threads if we weren't winning.

Thornton played very well when he was on the ice in my opinion.

Now is not the time to take stupid penalties - when the time comes, and I think it will, Thornton will do what is necessary.

Anyway, at this stage of the season, I think you play who got you here. Thornton is a part of the team, and there is no way he should be benched in favour of someone who has not been.

Yes, time for Marchand... not to replace Thornton, but to replace Wheeler.

You weren't impressed with Thornton's game?

He got the two first shots of the game, one of them a great chance. He actually had 3 shots, which was second highest on the team.

Oh and he did that in only 4:22.

You weren't impressed with the hand full of shifts he had? Lol there wasn't really anything to be impressed about, or not impressed about. He played 4th line minutes.

Agreed, and some forget, what if Thornton jumps in and snags the oh so popular instigator penalty?? This is not the NHL of years gone by where a guy can jump in immediately and settle a score without getting punished for policing.

Let`s just allow Carcillo to continue his circus act, the more he allows himself to be focused on things other than the game on the ice, the better it is for the Bruins.

Thornton was perfectly fine, not too sure if everyone thought he was going to play 14 minutes, set up the winning goal?? Carcillo is a goof, no need to get baited into an instigator for that wannabe porn star.

P.S. Didn`t we win?? Nothing wrong with Thornton last night

Lol. Thornton had a fine game, this team is up 2-0. No changes needed at this time.

Lol. Thornton had a fine game, this team is up 2-0. No changes needed at this time.

I ususally rip Thornton,but thought last nite he did his job ok.He was accounted for and Flyers knew he was there,I saw a different Flyers team this game as far as playing tough.Pronger for one.If there is a change right now in Bruins lineup,I hope its to insert Stuart.:)
GO BRUINS! Next game is huge.

Yes, time for Marchand... not to replace Thornton, but to replace Wheeler.

What is this thing with Marchand? He's no better than Nokelainen was a couple years ago. Makes no sense IMHO.

He played just over 4 minutes because Claude doesn't trust him. If he can't contribute than maybe he should not play.
Marchand is a young kid that is known to be a big game player.
I can't see why we won't try him out.
Nothing to lose, always everything to gain.

By your logic Thornton played only 4:22 because Claude doesn't trust him. That must mean that Claude trusts Marchand even less then doesn't it? You also said the Marchand has a history of being a big game player. WHat history? In the minors or juniors? Thornton has a ring, a real ring. Marchand was barely serviceable when in the few games he played with the B's. And one last thing, if a fight were to break out, I'd much rather have it be Thornton throwing the punches than Marchand.

All due respect to the Marchand fan club, but Claude isn't playing him over Thornton, ever.

That being said, I'd rather have the guy who was drafted one pick after Marchand, Cal Clutterbuck (as in NHL hit leader Cal Clutterbuck). Talk about a guy who would have been a great Bruin. Imagine a line with Sobotka, Lucic, and Clutterbuck? Oh my. Looks like the B's missed on that one.

All due respect to the Marchand fan club, but Claude isn't playing him over Thornton, ever.

That being said, I'd rather have the guy who was drafted one pick after Marchand, Cal Clutterbuck (as in NHL hit leader Cal Clutterbuck). Talk about a guy who would have been a great Bruin. Imagine a line with Sobotka, Lucic, and Clutterbuck? Oh my. Looks like the B's missed on that one.

so did many other teams mikelvl, I am pretty sure there isn`t a scout out there who haven`t had ample players they have seen/evaluated who, for whatever reason, turns into a solid, effective NHL player beyond any expectations they had placed on them. In the same breath, I am sure those same scouts have equally a number of guys they thought would be NHL calibre who went onto working full time at the Box Office of their local theatre and never dress for their draft team.

no problem with thornton last night. your request is no upgrade ( at this time ) so why bother.

I wouldnt be opposed to the idea of Marchand. I think its good for a young player to get a taste of the playoffs, and if its 4mins then it will not hurt in the slightest. PLus if he can show some hustle and play well that left wing spot is open on Bergeron's line. Paille is killing it right now.

You need to find out if players can step it up when it counts. As we are seeing from Blake Wheeler, the last two playoffs years, that it doesnt matter how decent you were in the regular season if you cant do anything in the playoffs you become expendable. I wouldnt be surprised, if continues to struggle, that the Bs use him as a draft day trade.

Thornton played a very good game yesterday. That being said, a lot of us have been asking for Marchand for a while now and Thornton's performance yesterday doesn't change that.

He played just over 4 minutes because Claude doesn't trust him. If he can't contribute than maybe he should not play.
Marchand is a young kid that is known to be a big game player.
I can't see why we won't try him out.
Nothing to lose, always everything to gain.The Stanley Cup playoffs, with all that's at stake, is no place to "try him out". "Nothing to lose"? What if he makes a few bonehead rookie mistakes that cost us a goal or a game?

I put Marchand on the playoff roster only if there are injuries.

Was not impressed with Thorton's game again tonight.

Carcillo taking liberties on Bruin players and Thorton is no where to be found. I think if Thorton would have taken him on in the latter part of the 2nd period, the Bruins would have developed even more momentum.

Marchand at least would bring more speed and more of a threat to score.
Thorton just seems too slow and even though he had a chance right off the bat in the game, he was pretty quiet for the rest of the game.
If he is going to play he needs to be a physical presence.

Bring on Marchand!

I'd love to see him in there. He will agitate Carcillo if nothing else.

Thornton NEEDS to play in Philly... NO QUESTIONS ASKED.

With Philly down 2 games to 0 and playing infront of their rowdy and aggressive home crowd, I expect the physical tempo to be amplified and I am sure Carcillo will drop the gloves this time around. Thornton has to be in the lineup for AT LEAST game 3, incase things get out of hand. Period.

Thornton should have lined up against Carcillo on the opening draw.

i thought he did?

at any rate, overall i thought thornton had a solid game in the 5 minutes of TOI he had. his first two shifts were great, he even had a couple decent scoring chances.

Thornton NEEDS to play in Philly... NO QUESTIONS ASKED.

With Philly down 2 games to 0 and playing infront of their rowdy and aggressive home crowd, I expect the physical tempo to be amplified and I am sure Carcillo will drop the gloves this time around. Thornton has to be in the lineup for AT LEAST game 3, incase things get out of hand. Period.

i doubt it. he will ramp up the annoyance and try to draw calls. thats what his role is, strictly to aggravate. he does it quite well unfortunately. i actually think it'd be better for the bruins to make golf comments all game to him. once he gets a rise out of you, he wins. if you can deflect it or play it off as if he's a joke, then he's basically useless to the flyers.

Thornton was good.has won a cup and doesn't take many penalties.
Marchand(whom i like)turns the puck over too much and takes penalties.
With the Bruins up 2-0 no need to mess with the line up.Besides if the score should get out of hand i would much rather have Thornton on the ice.