KHL 2010-2011 Season

let's open a thread for that just like the last year?

there's trouble in Minsk, dunno if it's a change of politics (too many foreign players) or bat'ka is loosing interest towards the KHL..


Сикора и десять игроков могут покинуть минское «Динамо»

Как стало известно Sports.ru, главный тренер минского «Динамо» Марек Сикора и 10 хоккеистов, пришедших в команду в это межсезонье, в ближайшие дни могут расторгнуть контракты с клубом.

Руководство минчан предложило подумать о расторжении договоров вратарю Роберту Эшу, защитникам Петеру Подградски, Раймону Жиру, нападающим Максиму Спиридонову, Константину Глазачеву, Йозефу Штумпелу, Дэвиду Немировски, Алексею Бадюкову и еще нескольким новичкам.

Это связано с невозможностью белорусской стороны соблюсти финансовые обязательства, данные хоккеистам.

Напомним, что причиной своего решения покинуть екатеринбургский «Автомобилист» после минувшего сезона Сикора называл финансовые проблемы клуба.

will Avto continue it's participation in the league? Is the HC "Lev" project shut down? What happens with Lada (VHL or the FHR's equivalent of the league?) and it's MHL project "Ladia"? any more things to discuss?

Hc Lev will be decied by Medvedev very soon, probably today.

http://www.championat.ru/hockey/_superleague/news-514994.html

will Avto continue it's participation in the league? Is the HC "Lev" project shut down? What happens with Lada (VHL or the FHR's equivalent of the league?) and it's MHL project "Ladia"? any more things to discuss?

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Vyschaya Liga
4. They'll play in MHL

http://www.championat.ru/hockey/news-515292.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

this is classic!!!!

http://www.championat.ru/hockey/news-515286.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Minsk seems to have denied the financial troubles, but there's never smoke without fire.

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Vyschaya Liga
4. They'll play in MHL

which Vyshaya Liga? there seems to be an alternative tournament organized by FHR for teams that can't afford to play in VHL. Both will be Vyshaya Liga

Does anyone have info on Amur? I'm really impressed by them. So far away and yet still very ambitious!

From what I found out recently, Amur has been selling out their stadium 100% for the past couple of years. Any plans for a new one?

What about the new arena in Tolyatti, I realize they wont be part of the KHL, but no-matter where they play, the old one is pathetic.

Amur has lost some of it's players, but will have an MHL team this year and has retained it's free agents. I think the stadium there is relatively new.

Does anyone have info on Amur? I'm really impressed by them. So far away and yet still very ambitious!

From what I found out recently, Amur has been selling out their stadium 100% for the past couple of years. Any plans for a new one?


Amur has lost some of it's players, but will have an MHL team this year and has retained it's free agents. I think the stadium there is relatively new.

The Platinum Arena was built in 2003, I doubt there are any plans to build a new one. I believe I read somewhere that the arena can be expanded? I can't remember where however.

http://www.khl.ru/news/2010/6/10/27611.html

In the second paragraph, after listing the players from HC MVD, they list 5 players from Dynamo, are they saying those 5 players are staying with the new team??

http://www.khl.ru/news/2010/6/10/27611.html

In the second paragraph, after listing the players from HC MVD, they list 5 players from Dynamo, are they saying those 5 players are staying with the new team??

I think that yes. So Plekhanov, Valentenko, Komarov, Krysanov, Avtsin should stay at Dinamo. I am not sure

Im pretty sure Avtsin is going to NA and sign with Habs.

Minsk needs to operate as more of a mini national team like Riga. Get rid of the useless foreigners they have. Concentrate money towards guys like Kalyuzhny and Ugarov, who they missed out on. There are guys like Zakharov IMO who are good enough to be on the team, but instead some pricey foreigner is taking the spot. I would like to see a guy like Koltsov also be there on the top 2 lines rather than 3rd line duties from UFA.
Either way they could operate much cheaper by using top domestic players from the Bel. league to fill more of the spots and I'm sure they wouldn't do much worse than they did last season.

Minsk needs to operate as more of a mini national team like Riga. Get rid of the useless foreigners they have. Concentrate money towards guys like Kalyuzhny and Ugarov, who they missed out on. There are guys like Zakharov IMO who are good enough to be on the team, but instead some pricey foreigner is taking the spot. I would like to see a guy like Koltsov also be there on the top 2 lines rather than 3rd line duties from UFA.
Either way they could operate much cheaper by using top domestic players from the Bel. league to fill more of the spots and I'm sure they wouldn't do much worse than they did last season.

I think their aim is alot higher than that! Hence the pricey foreigners. There is just no consistency.

As for being more like Riga, I disagree. I think having your national team and interests in one KHL club is sad, and wrong.
Belarus is on the right path, instead of creating once extreme club with every one of the countrys resources in, they improve Belarus hockey.

It has been stated that Belarus wants up to 4 KHL teams. I know that a little much but 2 or 3 is possible. I know that there will be a new arena built and then Yunost Minsk will likely try to get to the KHL. And imagine the derby's after that:nod:
Sofar Belarus has 2 clubs in the MHL, the league where all the future stars of KHL will get developed.
Dinamo Minsk has farm club Sakhter which is also doing well for the hockey. I believe that this diversification and development of hockey in Belarus will help the national team in the long run alot more than having a shallow amount op top belarus players chained to one club that runs everything.

I have an MHL Question - as some know there's a minor conflict/issue between Dinamo (Minsk) and Yunost' (Misnk)..DM have drafted their young goalie, but he's under contract with Yunost' and they are planning to use him in the MHL. DM though claims that he can only play for them in the MHL since they drafted him. I never heard of this rule, moreover, there were players with Krylya in the MHL who played for them while drafted by CSKA. Any explanations?

I have an MHL Question - as some know there's a minor conflict/issue between Dinamo (Minsk) and Yunost' (Misnk)..DM have drafted their young goalie, but he's under contract with Yunost' and they are planning to use him in the MHL. DM though claims that he can only play for them in the MHL since they drafted him. I never heard of this rule, moreover, there were players with Krylya in the MHL who played for them while drafted by CSKA. Any explanations?

I think it depends on him; and who he signs with. If he is currently signed with Yunost, he should play there, but if he gets an offer and signs with DM, he plays for them, and is eligeble to play for their MHL team. Not sure though.

I have an MHL Question - as some know there's a minor conflict/issue between Dinamo (Minsk) and Yunost' (Misnk)..DM have drafted their young goalie, but he's under contract with Yunost' and they are planning to use him in the MHL. DM though claims that he can only play for them in the MHL since they drafted him. I never heard of this rule, moreover, there were players with Krylya in the MHL who played for them while drafted by CSKA. Any explanations?

I think, he can play for Yunost in MHL. KHL draft is about playing in KHL not MHL. My opinion. Am I right?

I think, he can play for Yunost in MHL. KHL draft is about playing in KHL not MHL. My opinion. Am I right?

that's the dilemma my friend - 'cause Yunost' claims that the guy has a contract with them and he will play for them in spite of being drafted by whomever - and I thought that was right, but DM claims that he can only play for them - since they drafted him - which makes no sense for me since it's MHL, not KHL...

http://www.championat.ru/hockey/news-524232.html#comments

looks like Budivelnik is on hold, may not play this year...

tomorrow Budivelnik announces that they are not competing in the season 2010 - 2011.

tomorrow Budivelnik announces that they are not competing in the season 2010 - 2011.
Any links?

i've read something about this too, problems with the arena or something...

Could this mean Hradec may join the league? What other alternatives are there apart from Hradec to replace Kiev? Krylia Sovetov? Gazovik Tyumen? Maybe even Vetra? The number of teams have to stay at 24 you know.
Krylia is probably the most likely choice?

Why does the league have to have 24 teams? if other teams don't meet the requirements then maybe going ahead for one year with 23 teams is a better option.

Why does the league have to have 24 teams? if other teams don't meet the requirements then maybe going ahead for one year with 23 teams is a better option.

here's what I know: the owners of the arena got 10 million from the governor of Kiev to renovate their arena (Budivel'nik was going to do it on their money), so they told Kolomeyskiy to screw himself as he would keep an eye on where his money go, and governmental money can be spent while padding their own account...Therein there's no other arena in all of Ukraine that KHL would accept. They are talking some nonsense about possibly playing in another league, or looking into renting an arena in Belorus', but it seems like the news won't be good...they did postpone the press conference schedule for tomorrow, but looks like an agony to me.

never looked like a great idea to me anyhow...:shakehead

Why does the league have to have 24 teams? if other teams don't meet the requirements then maybe going ahead for one year with 23 teams is a better option.

It's just that the league's representatives have been talking over and over again for the past several years about expanding the league, even beyond the borders of the former USSR. But then we get what? After 3 years of existence - the number of teams gets reduced to a number lower that in the inaugural season! I just think, IMO it would hit the prestige of the league (if there is any), that's trying to be "Kontinental" at one point in the future, pretty bad. So they'll probably do everything to have the number of teams at least at 24, even if it means financing some bankrupt club like Lada. Also 23 is a prime number - there's no way to arrange divisions.

Any links?

http://www.championat.ru/hockey/_superleague/news-526282.html

So what will happen now?

Could this mean Hradec may join the league? What other alternatives are there apart from Hradec to replace Kiev? Krylia Sovetov? Gazovik Tyumen? Maybe even Vetra? The number of teams have to stay at 24 you know.
Krylia is probably the most likely choice?

Their press agent said yersteday they are still ready. Depends only on KHL.

Also this: http://www.championat.ru/hockey/news-525442.html

Одним из возможных вариантов выхода из сложившейся ситуации лигой рассматривается вариант с переездом в чешский Градец-Кралове.

Looks like I misread that - I thought Hradec would replace Kiev but actually they meant that the current Kiev team would MOVE TO Hradec.
So sort of a merger then? Take Kiev players since their roster is pretty complete right now while Hradec has no players at this time and use Hradec's arena since it's satisfactory.
We'll see how this might end up.

It's just that the league's representatives have been talking over and over again for the past several years about expanding the league, even beyond the borders of the former USSR. But then we get what? After 3 years of existence - the number of teams gets reduced to a number lower that in the inaugural season! I just think, IMO it would hit the prestige of the league (if there is any), that's trying to be "Kontinental" at one point in the future, pretty bad. So they'll probably do everything to have the number of teams at least at 24, even if it means financing some bankrupt club like Lada. Also 23 is a prime number - there's no way to arrange divisions.

i understand your point but the nba had 29 teams for years and it worked out fine and imo a smaller (say 20 teams) more competitive league and with more solid financing is better then a bigger league that has some questionable teams

every time one deals with Ukrainians something happens be it oil, be it gas, be it sports, be it politics...I just hope they go through with the Euro-2012...we hardly ever knew you, bye-bye...
too bad, I thought that would rejuvenate hockey in Ukraine and give us another interesting team to watch.

This whole thing with Budivelnyk isn't good. What's gonna be with players now? And Jandač? Is there some club in KHL still without a coach? :shakehead

This whole thing with Budivelnyk isn't good. What's gonna be with players now? And Jandač? Is there some club in KHL still without a coach? :shakehead

Well Barys just signed Khomutov, should have waited...but certainly there will be coaches fired. Yugra doesn't have anyone to compete, they may wanna sign some players at least the Russian trio. Ukraine shows it's ugly face once again, while really it's the face of post-soviet area, would be wrong to single out just Ukraine.

Looks like Hradec is willing to pay-off the Czech Federation to join the KHL now.

Looks like Hradec is willing to pay-off the Czech Federation to join the KHL now.

nixed by KHL

nixed by KHL

Shalaev is just trolling :sarcasm:

Mark Hartigan is going back to Dinamo Riga, also Riga signed Tomas Surovy.

nixed by KHL

Why would the KHL do that??

Why would the KHL do that??

past the deadline

Does anyone have a 2010-2011 KHL league schedule yet? When does it get released?

Does anyone have a 2010-2011 KHL league schedule yet? When does it get released?

I was wondering the same thing. I can't even find an updated list of the teams for next season, which seems to be needed from the above posts... eeek!

The calendar of the 2010–11 season will be published this week.

random question, but how many time zones are there in the KHL spanning from the teams most outside east and west?

random question, but how many time zones are there in the KHL spanning from the teams most outside east and west?

8 hours I think, since Khabarovsk is Vladivostok time - meaning UTC+10 and Riga or Minsk is UTC+2

Also about the calendar: Now I read on championat.ru that they need to settle the unceasing issue of Lev Poprad (formerly Lev Hradec Kralove), the meeting will be on July 13, meaning no calendar until then.

EDIT: So looks like we might not get the calendar of games for the upcoming 2010–11 season even this week. This because a KHL commision is currently evaluating the infrastructure of Lev Poprad and the results of this will only be announced this Friday.

Any team in talks with Lisisn?

random question, but how many time zones are there in the KHL spanning from the teams most outside east and west?

9 hours:
Khabarovsk - UTC+10
Poprad - UTC+1

9 hours:
Khabarovsk - UTC+10
Poprad - UTC+1

Yes, good one, with the addition of Poprad it's now 9 instead of 8. :)

Calendar will be published tomorrow, 21 July, according to official website. All the calendars published so far in some mass media are unofficial, warns the official website.

timetable is right but league tries to stop unwanted info leakage

There you go:A link to an article with 2 links to 2 pdfs with info regarding the regular season and playoffs. (http://www.khl.ru/news/2010/7/21/27709.html)
All in Russian ofcourse.

Doel Khokhlachev and Namestnikov will play in the KHL Next Year ? Or CHL ? Or MHL .. ?

Doel Khokhlachev and Namestnikov will play in the KHL Next Year ? Or CHL ? Or MHL .. ?

Khokhlachev KHL/MHL
Namestnikov junior in US / Canada

based on eliteprospects site lev has signed a ton of players today, many are very mediocre/marginal, some ok - Suchy, Bednarz...

Khokhlachev KHL/MHL
Namestnikov junior in US / Canada

I think Khohlachev may go to the CHL

Official website of the KHL versus NHL matchups:
http://www.khlnhl.ru/en/
Awesome looking.

http://www.khlnhl.ru/en/ :facepalm:

I think Khohlachev may go to the CHL

He is at camp with Spartak in Czech rep. So maybe he will stay here...I suppose

Khokhlachev KHL/MHL
Namestnikov junior in US / Canada
Did Namestnikov not learn anything from Kirill Kabanov's ruined career in the CHL?

Who is giving these kids horrible advice? Namestnikov could have been a great player, but now I lost hope for him. He is ruined.

Did Namestnikov not learn anything from Kirill Kabanov's ruined career in the CHL?

Who is giving these kids horrible advice? Namestnikov could have been a great player, but now I lost hope for him. He is ruined.

quite on contrary he will raise his draft position and go in the first/second round - make the NHL and be a legit player. Kabanov's mistake was being to young, irresponsible and not having his own opinion, has nothing to do with going to play in the CHL; moreover, he's still drafted and will play in the NHL as he's got bloats of talent.

http://www.khl.ru/news/2010/7/28/27728.html

LOL! The worst thing about that is it is very bad for KHL reputation. Sad to say that, but amateurism in KHL is huge (As well as in HC Lev) - can't understand, why they released 10/11 calendar and accepted them without dealing with all law issues. This was terrible offseason for KHL - first Budivelnyk and now Lev. Ridiculous.

Grebeshkov to SKA - 2 years deal.

KHL calendar now in English, from official website:
Regular season calendar (http://en.khl.ru/documents/KHL_calendar_2010-2011_regular_en.pdf)
Playoffs format (http://en.khl.ru/documents/KHL_calendar_2010-2011_playoff_en.pdf)

K. Tulupov is with spartak now, I believe on try out bases...Interesting - once a middle of the pack prospect played last season in Slovakia

Also, spartak played 6 foreign skaters and that's without dressing Hasek. What's gonna happen, they will have to cut someone and everyone is under the contract...Unless Mikus can play this yeah in the mhl?

Also, spartak played 6 foreign skaters and that's without dressing Hasek. What's gonna happen, they will have to cut someone and everyone is under the contract...Unless Mikus can play this yeah in the mhl?

Mikus was born in 1987. How limit of age is in MHL? Maybe to Vysha league (ВХЛ) ?

Mikus was born in 1987. How limit of age is in MHL? Maybe to Vysha league (ВХЛ) ?


this year it's 1989 or younger. so VHL or someone will be gone. I understand there are two young players with the last name Mikus @ spartak a forward and the D will play in Russia also...did u check the right one?

this year it's 1989 or younger. so VHL or someone will be gone. I understand there are two young players with the last name Mikus @ spartak a forward and the D will play in Russia also...did u check the right one?

Juraj Mikus forvard, Spartka, born 1987, here look http://www.szlh.sk/statistiky/c-0001_l-214/i-action!61player!95splits!38B!619755

Peter Mikus, D,Neftekhimik, born 1985, here http://www.szlh.sk/statistiky/c-090000_l-266/i-action!61player!95splits!38B!61402

Juraj Mikus, D, Toronto, born 1988, here http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/roster.htm?type=prospect

Am having trouble figuring out how to read the KHL schedule in that pdf. I am feeling very stupid. Does it list the home team first or second?

Am having trouble figuring out how to read the KHL schedule in that pdf. I am feeling very stupid. Does it list the home team first or second?

Home team is first. That's how Europeans do it in hockey, soccer, basketball... No "X @ Y".

Home team is first. That's how Europeans do it in hockey, soccer, basketball... No "X @ Y".

Thanks:)

quite on contrary he will raise his draft position and go in the first/second round - make the NHL and be a legit player. Kabanov's mistake was being to young, irresponsible and not having his own opinion, has nothing to do with going to play in the CHL; moreover, he's still drafted and will play in the NHL as he's got bloats of talent.

What does raising the draft position mean? who cares what number you are? either way youl make the NHL if your good.
IMO he should play some VHL next year. somewhere in the Moscow oblast since voskresensk only has MHL team. Maybe even spring for a few KHL games.
I think that bouncing around leagues and especially countries is really bad for young players

What does raising the draft position mean? who cares what number you are? either way youl make the NHL if your good.
IMO he should play some VHL next year. somewhere in the Moscow oblast since voskresensk only has MHL team. Maybe even spring for a few KHL games.
I think that bouncing around leagues and especially countries is really bad for young players

He will learn English, adjust his game to small rinks, learn how to interact with team-mates in NA, and what's also very important, learn how to play the game clean, without constant hooking custom to Russia, which doesn't get called internally and than causes us to play PK when the game is refereed properly. That could mean the difference between 1st and 2nd rounds - which in turn increases one's chance to make the NHL and get their pay day faster.

cheers.

He will learn English, adjust his game to small rinks, learn how to interact with team-mates in NA, and what's also very important, learn how to play the game clean, without constant hooking custom to Russia,


That interaction and language nonsense, means nothing for the game. Young players shouldnt waste time on that. Staying in Russia means he has full communication with everyone and he can fully concentrate on game instead of lifestyle changes.
If its such a big deal he can learn english from a book or tutor. Again doesnt really matter, many players in NHL dont speak english well.

The hooking thing is true but not that big deal, especially for high profile good players that should be able to tweak their style.
Either way, he might not go to NHL right away, so he can do that **** in the AHL.

That could mean the difference between 1st and 2nd rounds - which in turn increases one's chance to make the NHL and get their pay day faster.

cheers.

Going in 1st or 2nd round make no difference to how fast you make the NHL... If your good you will, if not, you wont. Just like 65th Kabanov will prolly play NHL before all second rounders.


Its much better to be smart like Avtsin, and go when your somewhat of a solid player. Many good players go after 18 like Malkin, Ovechkin, etc.

That interaction and language nonsense, means nothing for the game. Young players shouldnt waste time on that. Staying in Russia means he has full communication with everyone and he can fully concentrate on game instead of lifestyle changes.
If its such a big deal he can learn english from a book or tutor. Again doesnt really matter, many players in NHL dont speak english well.

The hooking thing is true but not that big deal, especially for high profile good players that should be able to tweak their style.
Either way, he might not go to NHL right away, so he can do that **** in the AHL.




Going in 1st or 2nd round make no difference to how fast you make the NHL... If your good you will, if not, you wont. Just like 65th Kabanov will prolly play NHL before all second rounders.


Its much better to be smart like Avtsin, and go when your somewhat of a solid player. Many good players go after 18 like Malkin, Ovechkin, etc.



everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I believe yours is wrong - Avtsin is a good example - plugged into Dinamo's roster out of desperation, missed a few years of good competition, 'cause he bluntly had nowhere to play. CHL is heads, shoulder and heels above anything Russia has to offer and playing 2-3 shifts a game or just being dressed and NOT playing at all don't do much for a young developing player.

everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I believe yours is wrong - Avtsin is a good example - plugged into Dinamo's roster out of desperation, missed a few years of good competition, 'cause he bluntly had nowhere to play. CHL is heads, shoulder and heels above anything Russia has to offer and playing 2-3 shifts a game or just being dressed and NOT playing at all don't do much for a young developing player.

What about this then:
http://www.championat.ru/hockey/news-572673.html

everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I believe yours is wrong - Avtsin is a good example - plugged into Dinamo's roster out of desperation, missed a few years of good competition, 'cause he bluntly had nowhere to play. CHL is heads, shoulder and heels above anything Russia has to offer and playing 2-3 shifts a game or just being dressed and NOT playing at all don't do much for a young developing player.

Ok, we'll agree to disagree.

Just to add to Rosso though,
CHL that your crazy about has driven Czech-Slovak hockey into the ground. I knew this for a while but here are IIHF statistics that I just found:

"According to a recent study, a majority of European players in the Canadian Hockey League were even not drafted at all by NHL teams. Only 20 percent play at least one NHL game and only four percent become established NHLers."

http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/news/news-singleview/article/nhl-turns-to-europe.html?tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=955&cHash=3c1c70259f

Im not going to quote a large part of the article but I highly suggest you read it. The first part is more about senior, but the part at the bottom is more relevant to what were talking about.

According to Finnish sports publication Veikkaaja, Niko Kapanen will make 2,5 million dollars for next season at AK Bars Kazan. Overpayment much?

According to Finnish sports publication Veikkaaja, Niko Kapanen will make 2,5 million dollars for next season at AK Bars Kazan. Overpayment much?

lol, I'd pay him a third of that on a good day)

Ok, we'll agree to disagree.

Just to add to Rosso though,
CHL that your crazy about has driven Czech-Slovak hockey into the ground. I knew this for a while but here are IIHF statistics that I just found:

"According to a recent study, a majority of European players in the Canadian Hockey League were even not drafted at all by NHL teams. Only 20 percent play at least one NHL game and only four percent become established NHLers."

http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/news/news-singleview/article/nhl-turns-to-europe.html?tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=955&cHash=3c1c70259f

Im not going to quote a large part of the article but I highly suggest you read it. The first part is more about senior, but the part at the bottom is more relevant to what were talking about.

by that rational CHL has ran American and Canadian hockey into the ground, what's the % of players that made the NHL between them?))))

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS - IT IS THE BEST JUNIOR LEAGUE (3) IN THE WORLD AND PLAYERS ARE BETTER OFF PLAYING WITH THE BEST COMPETITION PERIOD - PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

What about this then:
http://www.championat.ru/hockey/news-572673.html


no you didn't, I read that stupid interview with a smirk the other day, it's nothing but propaganda and a cheap one too. unless you trying to tell me that Burmistrov's of the world are better of playing in the MHL against some "blatnie" kids who can barely stand on their skates and for the teams where the coach gets a fax of whom to keep on the team before preseason and camps have even started and all that without a sniff at the KHL if your rights belong to a team above average (see Petrov, Raisov, Burmistrov, Avtsin(just barely), Dvurechesnkiy and many-many more)? Please, of all people u should have a better insight...

no you didn't, I read that stupid interview with a smirk the other day, it's nothing but propaganda and a cheap one too. unless you trying to tell me that Burmistrov's of the world are better of playing in the MHL against some "blatnie" kids who can barely stand on their skates and for the teams where the coach gets a fax of whom to keep on the team before preseason and camps have even started and all that without a sniff at the KHL if your rights belong to a team above average (see Petrov, Raisov, Burmistrov, Avtsin(just barely), Dvurechesnkiy and many-many more)? Please, of all people u should have a better insight...

Well he said - no one of the true superstars seen a single minute of CHL but learned the game in Russia and "exported" their skills to the NHL. Ovechkin, Malkin, Kovalchuk, Datsyuk, etc did this. He has a point.
And many guys in the CHL can barely skate as well.

Well he said - no one of the true superstars seen a single minute of CHL but learned the game in Russia and "exported" their skills to the NHL. Ovechkin, Malkin, Kovalchuk, Datsyuk, etc did this. He has a point.
And many guys in the CHL can barely skate as well.

he has a point that a true superstar will make it, but who's the true superstar? you say some guys barely skate in the CHL? then how come NT from lower Canadian junior leagues play Russian even and often?

he has a point that a true superstar will make it, but who's the true superstar? you say some guys barely skate in the CHL? then how come NT from lower Canadian junior leagues play Russian even and often?

Well if you're talking about the ADT super series or what was its name this year, those games are a joke and you know that.

yeah i remember canada east - russia 9:1 or some like that

is Kuchin back to Russia? if I am not mistaken, he's pllayed a few games for Diesel of VHL.

my bet wrong one, this one from Magnitogorsk.

by that rational CHL has ran American and Canadian hockey into the ground, what's the % of players that made the NHL between them?))))

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS - IT IS THE BEST JUNIOR LEAGUE (3) IN THE WORLD AND PLAYERS ARE BETTER OFF PLAYING WITH THE BEST COMPETITION PERIOD - PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

A few years ago, a study showed that only 1% of players in Major junior played in the NHL (not sure if its 1% who had careers or played one game, for arguments sake, let say its career). If 4% of european that come in Canada for Major Jr, that is 4 times more than the average.

I will support CSKA arguments about language barrier and style of play. Most russian who usually come after 2-3 years of russia hockey need to play in the AHL for a years or 2. Some than get tired of riding the bus and go back home, missing out lots of money. Culture in NA is completely different. They need to adapt. Learn how to communicate in english (or french someplace). Learn the NA game. The earlier they learn the better and easier it is.

Regarding the draft position, well it does make a difference. A 1st round player will probably get a max rookie contract of 900k plus bonuses. Later picks will get less money an no bonuses.

A few years ago, a study showed that only 1% of players in Major junior played in the NHL (not sure if its 1% who had careers or played one game, for arguments sake, let say its career). If 4% of european that come in Canada for Major Jr, that is 4 times more than the average.

Sure but for the most part only good young players are going to come from Europe to play junior hockey in Canada. The bad/average players aren't likely to come over as they know they are not likely going to make it as professional hockey players anyways. Guys like that need to focus on other aspects of their lives and even if they wanted to come to Canada to play junior hockey it would be a bad idea. Why would they move to Canada to play hockey when they have families at home, jobs and school?

Personally I wish that European players would come over to Canada less often to play junior hockey. Not because I don't like seeing them play here but because I like in international competitions how most countries have different styles, strengths and weaknesses. If too many good European players learn to play Canadian style than we are likely going to see less diversity from international teams since they all play like Canadians. But obviously I completely understand why Europeans with a goal of making it to the NHL would come to Canada to play junior hockey and learn to play the North American game and maybe to play in front of the NHL scouts more often.

Personally I wish that European players would come over to Canada less often to play junior hockey. Not because I don't like seeing them play here but because I like in international competitions how most countries have different styles, strengths and weaknesses. If too many good European players learn to play Canadian style than we are likely going to see less diversity from international teams since they all play like Canadians. But obviously I completely understand why Europeans with a goal of making it to the NHL would come to Canada to play junior hockey and learn to play the North American game and maybe to play in front of the NHL scouts more often.

I'm with you and I prefer not having any european in Major Jr. but for different reason. I would prefer to keep this roster spot for a Canadian (by the way I would also like a limit on american born players).

hello guys can someone gives me a link, list or something else with all the NHL players in 2010 who will play in KHL or European league this year? It will be appreciate.

Thanks!

hello guys can someone gives me a link, list or something else with all the NHL players in 2010 who will play in KHL or European league this year? It will be appreciate.

Thanks!

sometimes its useful to read the topics :sarcasm:
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=810698

When talents leave the russian, swedish, finnish and czech junior leagues for CHL in big numbers they weaken those leagues. It also makes little sense for the europpen teams to develop talents just to see them leave for NA and never play for the main team. For some players CHL is the better option, for most it´s not that good. Even if there are a couple of exceptions to the rule on the whole it´s better if the european talents develop in Europe until they are at least 19, 20 years old.

When talents leave the russian, swedish, finnish and czech junior leagues for CHL in big numbers they weaken those leagues. It also makes little sense for the europpen teams to develop talents just to see them leave for NA and never play for the main team. For some players CHL is the better option, for most it´s not that good. Even if there are a couple of exceptions to the rule on the whole it´s better if the european talents develop in Europe until they are at least 19, 20 years old.

agree

KHL's problem is that higher level talents are taking roster spots that were traditionally filed by young prospects.....especially on upper tier clubs.

In years past a Loktionov, Grachev, Petrov, Burmistrov, Berdnikov, Galiev, Khokhlachev, etc., etc, etc. would have no problem finding ice time on the top team. Now they would be buried in the MHL (which is a good league but below the skill level of some of these guys).

The alternative is the CHL, but that's traditionally been a place where Russian prospects go to lose all their skills and talent.

KHL's problem is that higher level talents are taking roster spots that were traditionally filed by young prospects.....especially on upper tier clubs.

In years past a Loktionov, Grachev, Petrov, Burmistrov, Berdnikov, Galiev, Khokhlachev, etc., etc, etc. would have no problem finding ice time on the top team. Now they would be buried in the MHL (which is a good league but below the skill level of some of these guys).

The alternative is the CHL, but that's traditionally been a place where Russian prospects go to lose all their skills and talent.

now with the emergence of regulated VHL is that another opportunity for those guys? VHL is higher level than MHL without a doubt. now it's up to the league - how they market themselves and up to KHL clubs to be willing to pay their salaries while the players are maturing in the VHL, granted it will take time for the whole system to work itself out, but that's the only way out I see. Especially with disallowed player rental agreements.

Saw Spartak take on CSKA the other night, Hasek was a wall and is just as good as ever was.

Great game with a ton of hits and dangles, was impressed with the quality of the game although the zebra's were a little whistle happy.

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/MoscowDre/For%20my%20love%20Part%202/andre142.jpg

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/MoscowDre/For%20my%20love%20Part%202/andre176.jpg

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/MoscowDre/For%20my%20love%20Part%202/andre179.jpg

Saw Spartak take on CSKA the other night, Hasek was a wall and is just as good as ever was.

Great game with a ton of hits and dangles, was impressed with the quality of the game although the zebra's were a little whistle happy.

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/MoscowDre/For%20my%20love%20Part%202/andre142.jpg

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/MoscowDre/For%20my%20love%20Part%202/andre176.jpg

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad302/MoscowDre/For%20my%20love%20Part%202/andre179.jpg


100 year old score-board in LDS CSKA is awful...

is Kuchin back to Russia? if I am not mistaken, he's pllayed a few games for Diesel of VHL.

my bet wrong one, this one from Magnitogorsk.

Maybe it was Ivan Kuchin ? ...

100 year old score-board in LDS CSKA is awful...


Flashy score boards and high tech fan fare would be sweet and CSKA has the money to pull it off but I hope it never comes. History, the place just screams of stories and tales that have filled the history books. You can't duplicate the feel of that barn.

Flashy score boards and high tech fan fare would be sweet and CSKA has the money to pull it off but I hope it never comes. History, the place just screams of stories and tales that have filled the history books. You can't duplicate the feel of that barn.

Was the hooliganism in the stands as bad as reported? Both teams were fined because of it.

Flashy score boards and high tech fan fare would be sweet and CSKA has the money to pull it off but I hope it never comes. History, the place just screams of stories and tales that have filled the history books. You can't duplicate the feel of that barn.

CSKA DOES NOT have the money to do it; morover, you cannot even hang a "cube" in LDS, 'cause the roof isn't strong enough.

Maybe it was Ivan Kuchin ? ...

yes that was Ivan, but i thought I saw Andrei's name also.

Is Robert Esche playing or even practicing with anyone?

Is Robert Esche playing or even practicing with anyone?

He is not at roster of any team in KHL. About practicing I dont know

So I have been watching all of SKA's games and they are playing TERRIBLE. Carolina is going to destroy them. They are uninspired, lazy, soft and they have NO chemistry. Nabokov is playing like one of the worst goal tenders in the league. Is this a coaching problem? WTF is going on over there?

I agree, 3-0 loss to Severestal was painful to watch. Also, where is Zubov?

I agree, 3-0 loss to Severestal was painful to watch. Also, where is Zubov?

Out with a thigh injury and suppose to be out for 5-6 weeks. This information is from 3 so weeks ago but I have see no status updates on if he will return soon or later than predicted time.

Svenska..how do you think Riga will do against the Islanders?

Personally, from watching a few games from Riga I noticed they are much more physical than the other KHL teams. There defense loves to finish checks, and they are a very hard working bunch. If they get goaltending they will beat NY IMO.

Personally, from watching a few games from Riga I noticed they are much more physical than the other KHL teams. There defense loves to finish checks, and they are a very hard working bunch. If they get goaltending they will beat NY IMO.

except that they're playing Phoenix.

Personally, from watching a few games from Riga I noticed they are much more physical than the other KHL teams. There defense loves to finish checks, and they are a very hard working bunch. If they get goaltending they will beat NY IMO.

Tellqvist has been playing great in the games I have seen and i think he will get the start agains the Islanders, so who knows.

except that they're playing Phoenix.

Hmm. I guess they changed that? Phoenix it is.

http://www.khlnhl.ru/en/

Svenska..how do you think Riga will do against the Islanders?

Tellqvist has been playing great in the games I have seen and i think he will get the start agains the Islanders, so who knows.

I can assume he get start again Phoenix, unless he get injury or they rather waste match and let other goalies play in meaningless match.

I know little of Phoenix or have see them play in pre-season so my opinion is base all off watching Riga, but I like our chance, maybe not so much to win but for sure make it very entertaining and push Phoenix. However, sometimes watch DR makes me feel if we do not show up then it might begin to look really bad.

How do you believe we do? What about SKA v. Carolina?

As for Islanders, I believe it was always Riga v. Phoenix but Islanders were going to visit China for training camp and on way home would play match against Amur.

They were never scheduled to play the Islanders, it's been Phoenix from day one. As for the starting goalie, Tellqvist now has three losses in a row despite a strong first showing. He gave up two late leads against SKA by not being ready for quick shots off the draw. Holt also had a less than stellar last game after a very good start to the season, so they're both pretty much in the same boat. I think Telly will get the start simply because of his history with Phoenix, but in a meaningless, yet somewhat historic game like this, it would only be right to split the playing time between both of them, after all, Holt has a perfect 0 GAA, 100% save percentage in his two NHL games, so it would be nice to see him keep that going.

And on a somewhat related topic, Dinamo Riga's former third string goalie Ervins Mustukovs has just been named as one of the goalies facing off against the Boston Bruins in an exhibition game with the UK Elite League's Belfast Giants Selects (basically a mix off Giants players and an All-Star team). In his first seven games he had 4 shutouts (the only 4 in the league) and leads in all goalie categories with a 1.88 GAA and a 93.7% save percentage.

So I have been watching all of SKA's games and they are playing TERRIBLE. Carolina is going to destroy them. They are uninspired, lazy, soft and they have NO chemistry. Nabokov is playing like one of the worst goal tenders in the league. Is this a coaching problem? WTF is going on over there?

One line team so far. Line with Weinhandl, Afinogenov & Mårtensson and the D-pairing of Vishnevsky and Grebeshkov. Complete lackluster throughout the rest of the roster and defense is non-existing.

One line team so far. Line with Weinhandl, Afinogenov & Mårtensson and the D-pairing of Vishnevsky and Grebeshkov. Complete lackluster throughout the rest of the roster and defense is non-existing.

they just beat us with that one line in SO...Yashin and Nabokov riding the pine, ha-ha

except that they're playing Phoenix.

lol oops... Well this changes everything now they stand no chance :sarcasm:

With Svatos signed Omsk waves Brendon Bell.

They were never scheduled to play the Islanders, it's been Phoenix from day one. As for the starting goalie, Tellqvist now has three losses in a row despite a strong first showing. He gave up two late leads against SKA by not being ready for quick shots off the draw. Holt also had a less than stellar last game after a very good start to the season, so they're both pretty much in the same boat.

Pretty much spot on but I still prefer the Swede because he is better goalie overall. He signed with us late on, got an injury so probably best of him is yet to come. His numbers aren't very good right now because of several freakish goals and some circus defending in front of him. Holt looks very average and unprepared to face KHL forwards, he is used to face a lot shots from everywhere so it is hard to beat him by surprise but he has been ***** in every one-on-one situation (bar one in first game against Afinogenov.)

Kirill Petrov is traded to Yugra for a 5th round draft pick...IMHO - is a loop hole in the rules, rich are trading their players for NOTHING to weaker teams, but in reality it's just a rental.

Kazan has done it at least twice now with Hafizulin to Vityaz' and now Petrov to Yugra.

I do wish Kirill all the best though and hope he'll break through with that team.

On the other note: many say he's really older than the papers show - any truth to that?

Hey guys, Tarasenko hasn't gotten a lot of points recently, but how's his overall game looking so far this season?

Hey guys, Tarasenko hasn't gotten a lot of points recently, but how's his overall game looking so far this season?


i haven't seen a lot of Sibir games so far but in some games i saw he was kinda invisible

Is there a reason why CSKA Moscow is drawing such embarrassingly low attendance figures?

1380, 1112, 1656, 1238. What gives?

It's Moscow, lol.

Is there a reason why CSKA Moscow is drawing such embarrassingly low attendance figures?

1380, 1112, 1656, 1238. What gives?

Moscow is football(soccer) city they don't give a ****** about hockey which is kinda sad because imho "Russia and Football"=fail

hockey is our game, leave football to British:)

Moscow is football(soccer) city they don't give a ****** about hockey which is kinda sad because imho "Russia and Football"=fail

hockey is our game, leave football to British:)

remove all dirt from the game - we have a lot of talented kids in Russia, break the system and sports will take off

Václav Sýkora became regular head coach of SKA :handclap: Now there are 4 czech head coaches in KHL, not bad at all :)

there is a fashion on Czech players in KHL now same goes with coaches:)

to be serious i'm glad, he made them work and play, SKA is looking much better now

more competitive teams=more interesting games

What's up with Lokomotiv? They're second in conference and decided to fire their coach, seems pretty weird.

Jerseys of team MHL which will play a few games in late december in against US universities and CHL´s MAINEiacs

http://mhl.khl.ru/news/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=3390&SECTION_ID=

schedule here (http://www.webhokej24.sk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6938:mhl-program-us-turne&catid=149:komentare&Itemid=49)

Very cool stuff, haha ironic that Kabanov gets to play against these guys.... Provided he isn't at the WJC :sarcasm:

Jerseys of team MHL which will play a few games in late december in against US universities and CHL´s MAINEiacs

http://mhl.khl.ru/news/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=3390&SECTION_ID=

schedule here (http://www.webhokej24.sk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6938:mhl-program-us-turne&catid=149:komentare&Itemid=49)


there's a thread about this in Russian forum, dunno why u post this in the KHL regular season thread...

there's a thread about this in Russian forum, dunno why u post this in the KHL regular season thread...

sorry, I did not perceive it.. you can move my post

Sorry, if it is mentioned at other thread. I could not find it.

I have read that Omsk is interesting in Sami Vatanen. Is it truth or just journalist´s will?

sorry, I did not perceive it.. you can move my post

lol, I am not a mod)))

I heard the Vatannen rumor - doubt it's true...isn't he planning to make it to the NHL?

Haha Chris Holt just showed up Viyukhin, very well played Holt, very well played. :laugh:

Haha Chris Holt just showed up Viyukhin, very well played Holt, very well played. :laugh:

any story behind this?

any story behind this?

In the second period, Viyukhin makes a glove save and he makes it way over dramatic, he pretty much does a full windmill motion. So a few minutes late Holt makes a glove save and does the same thing. Looks down at Viyukhin, waves his glove at him, taps it to his forehead (kind of like when tell somebody "think about your actions" without saying anything) and smiles.

In the second period, Viyukhin makes a glove save and he makes it way over dramatic, he pretty much does a full windmill motion. So a few minutes late Holt makes a glove save and does the same thing. Looks down at Viyukhin, waves his glove at him, taps it to his forehead (kind of like when tell somebody "think about your actions" without saying anything) and smiles.

is there a video of that?

I agree, 3-0 loss to Severestal was painful to watch. Also, where is Zubov?

Is he still injured?

Is he still injured?

me thinks so.

I'll be at the game in Davos right before the Spengler Cup begins. ZSKA vs. St. Petersburg
Looking forward to it!

I'll be at the game in Davos right before the Spengler Cup begins. ZSKA vs. St. Petersburg
Looking forward to it!

I think you mean Spartak.

I hope that it will be good match and you enjoy KHL match. :)

New show from Vityaz today. Main roles:

Denis Sergeyev-Beatiful Maiden
Josh Gratton-Overprotective boyfriend
Sergey Belokon'-karate kid, wants to be a martial arts master but doesn't have the guts to fight face to face
Darcy Verot-Gratton's buddy
Ivan Larin-A loser.
Andrei Nazarov-hooligan
Anatoly Bardin-A "positive thinking" man
Martin Skoula-Boy who tried to flirt with Sergeyev.

Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apZ0kri50EU&feature=player_embedded

New show from Vityaz today. Main roles:

Denis Sergeyev-Beatiful Maiden
Josh Gratton-Overprotective boyfriend
Sergey Belokon'-karate kid, wants to be a martial arts master but doesn't have the guts to fight face to face
Darcy Verot-Gratton's buddy
Ivan Larin-A loser.
Andrei Nazarov-hooligan
Anatoly Bardin-A "positive thinking" man
Martin Skoula-Boy who tried to flirt with Sergeyev.

Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apZ0kri50EU&feature=player_embedded

i think chehov will be wrapping up it's glorious KHL run pretty darn soon.

On a positive fighting note, there where some good fights in the Loco-Spartak game. Since I'm usually critical of some of the Russian guys who turtle or fight with there gloves on, I must give credit where credit is due! Credit goes to Alexander Galimov, who not only dropped the gloves, but the helmet too, and took on a worthy opponent in Radivojevic. It was a good fight. Its nice to see 2 regular players (not goons) fight each other in a well spirited fight!
There were also some other good fights in the game following a play where Rachunek got ran behind his net.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4a6Wq0Zv2c

New show from Vityaz today. Main roles:

Ivan Larin-A loser.



Just curious, how is Larin. I noticed he has played only 2 games, but only managed to play less than 5 minutes total, yet he has managed 72 PIMs! Is he just a goon, or does he have any upside as a prospect?

Just curious, how is Larin. I noticed he has played only 2 games, but only managed to play less than 5 minutes total, yet he has managed 72 PIMs! Is he just a goon, or does he have any upside as a prospect?
As I know, he was born in ´91 and he got ban for several games for a fight in MHL in october or november this season. I am not sure about month.

Kitsyn is leaving Novokuznetsk and going to play in OHL after WJC's per Chesnokov on Twitter.

Nabokov is done in SKA!

Nabokov is done in SKA!

Era of Stepanek has begun! :thumbu:

Just curious, how is Larin. I noticed he has played only 2 games, but only managed to play less than 5 minutes total, yet he has managed 72 PIMs! Is he just a goon, or does he have any upside as a prospect?

He's just a gand*n (Russians will understand me)

He's just a gand*n (Russians will understand me)

shtopanniy?))

Era of Stepanek has begun! :thumbu:

or era of Sokolov will continue)

or era of Sokolov will continue)

He plays for Traktor now!

He plays for Traktor now!

Traktor confirmed that Sokolov is moving to SKA

He plays for Traktor now!

someone is not updated on the KHL news...:sarcasm::laugh::laugh:

LOL yeah shame on me. Anyhow, I see little sense in this comeback. They have a great goalie in Stepanek and a very good young goalie in Shikin, aka a great goaltending situation. Oh god, they have Medvedev too :shakehead

Hockey cards, anyone? :D
http://store.khl.ru/shopping/index.php?id=342&pid=312

It will be an interesting few games for Dinamo Riga over the holidays. Both their starting goaltenders are out with injuries, so their third stringer Edgars Lusins will be starting, while they've called up Kristers Gudlevskis from their junior team to back him up. Lusins, who had yet to see a second of KHL action came in for the shootout yesterday, stopping all three Dynamo Moscow shots to get the win for Dinamo. The funny thing with shootouts is that in this case the guy who was the game's hero technically has still not played a single minute this season, hasn't seen or saved a single shot, and didn't even get credit for the win attributed to him.

It will be an interesting few games for Dinamo Riga over the holidays. Both their starting goaltenders are out with injuries, so their third stringer Edgars Lusins will be starting, while they've called up Kristers Gudlevskis from their junior team to back him up. Lusins, who had yet to see a second of KHL action came in for the shootout yesterday, stopping all three Dynamo Moscow shots to get the win for Dinamo. The funny thing with shootouts is that in this case the guy who was the game's hero technically has still not played a single minute this season, hasn't seen or saved a single shot, and didn't even get credit for the win attributed to him.
Interesting for neutrals, scary for fans... Yesterday Lusins got lucky as first shot beat him and it came back off the post.

so, are people watching SKA - Spartak regular season game in Davos?

yeah on KHL TV

suprised that arena is almost full there tbh

swiss like sports. plus it's a resort - probably bunch of russians are there skiing.

cool thing is i saw SKA fans with flags and banners as well as Spartak ones.

very nice, people came abroad to support their teams

Good news, everyone!
According to this news:
http://www.khl.ru/news/2010/12/27/30550.html

Orders in the store.khl.ru can now be paid with a plastic card and the store sends orders to over 190 countries all over the world!

With the introduction of hockey cards into the store not that long ago, hopefully we'll also see club jerseys in the store soon.

Good news, everyone!
According to this news:
http://www.khl.ru/news/2010/12/27/30550.html

Orders in the store.khl.ru can now be paid with a plastic card and the store sends orders to over 190 countries all over the world!

With the introduction of hockey cards into the store not that long ago, hopefully we'll also see club jerseys in the store soon.

Would be great... I doubt many people are buying merchandise with just KHL logo.

KHL All Star 2011 promo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_HPsb6JNQ4

as soon as i seen that statue it was st petersburg, i recognise it from the amazing race

pretty cool commercial

also nice to see the khl store expanding and fixing any issues asap

KHL All Star 2011 promo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_HPsb6JNQ4

Epic trailer is Epic.

as soon as i seen that statue it was st petersburg, i recognise it from the amazing race

pretty cool commercial

also nice to see the khl store expanding and fixing any issues asap

on the KHL store - the only thing that interested me there was the booklet on the MHL as of last season, but they don't have it in stock. I wrote them a letter whether it will be ever available and the answer was - there is no info on this item)))

on the KHL store - the only thing that interested me there was the booklet on the MHL as of last season, but they don't have it in stock. I wrote them a letter whether it will be ever available and the answer was - there is no info on this item)))

the khl store is a joke i believe

Also, the CSKA Moscow has traded Korneyev (their #1 PP D-man) for Buravchikov. Either Buravchikov is a defensive D-man or CSKA Moscow is a team that aims for the bottom.

Also, the CSKA Moscow has traded Korneyev (their #1 PP D-man) for Buravchikov. Either Buravchikov is a defensive D-man or CSKA Moscow is a team that aims for the bottom.

CSKA has some issues with sponsorships due to some changes in Nornikel's infrastructure. There's no way Korneev resigns with CSKA, and there's no way he was getting traded to the "traitor" coaches from Salavat, that's why it was the best possible deal out there, with the exception of aforementioned team. I was never impressed with Korneev, while he's much better than Buravchikov (who's still a capable top-6 for the low part of the KHL table, young and on the cheap side), Ak Bars also gave CSKA some money, that they desperately lack.

A couple of interesting links today:

the longtime dictator of Kazahkstan Nursultan Nazarbayev will see the match today between traktor and Barys. hope he enjoys it and invests a little more into ice hockey!

http://spy.kz/Soc/Nazarbaev-posetit-hokkeinyi-match-Barys-Traktor/

and a nice video from D. Minsk :)

BPsEn0-EXyU

is anyone watching Russia-2 right now, they have a show on younger Russian players, the scoop on them, interviews with families...great stuff! Right before Kazan' - Sibir' game.

Any followers of Ufa know what injury Grigorenko has? And how long he is expected out?

Chris Holt (Dinamo Riga goalie) performing with latvian rock band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpgSApuQTFE

Is it me or Vityaz is playing a lot better with two goons missing?

Chris Holt (Dinamo Riga goalie) performing with latvian rock band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpgSApuQTFE

Wow:amazed:

I'm impressed, he has very good voice.

Defenseman Michal Barinka signs with Lokomotiv.

I really like Lokomotiv's changes to win the Gagarin Cup this year. They have a very deep roster.

KHL All-star starters

Team Yashin
Dominik Hašek (Spartak)

Alexandr Guskov (Lokomotiv)
Sandis Ozoliņš (Dinamo Riga)

Sergei Mozyakin (Atlant)
Maxim Sushinsky (SKA)
Alexei Yashin (SKA)

Team Jágr
Karri Rämö (Avangard)

Martin Škoula (Avangard)
Ilya Nikulin (Ak Bars)

Alexander Radulov (Salavat Yulaev)
Roman Červenka (Avangard)
Jaromír Jágr (Avangard)

KHL All-star starters

Team Yashin
Dominik Hašek (Spartak)

Alexandr Guskov (Lokomotiv)
Sandis Ozoliņš (Dinamo Riga)

Sergei Mozyakin (Atlant)
Maxim Sushinsky (SKA)
Alexei Yashin (SKA)

Team Jágr
Karri Rämö (Avangard)

Martin Škoula (Avangard)
Ilya Nikulin (Ak Bars)

Alexander Radulov (Salavat Yulaev)
Roman Červenka (Avangard)
Jaromír Jágr (Avangard)

Sushinsky, Yashin and Hasek???

Sushinsky, Yashin and Hasek???

Sushinsky - what's the problem with that? He's awesome.
Yashin - he's a legend, the all-star game is called Team Yashin vs Team Jagr after all.
Hasek - a legend, although not so good this season.

btw its east vs west this year. Yashin team representing western conference, Jagrs - eastern.

btw its east vs west this year. Yashin team representing western conference, Jagrs - eastern.

Interesting, I didn't notice that. The teams are still called Jagr and Yashin though.

Sushinsky - what's the problem with that? He's awesome.
Yashin - he's a legend, the all-star game is called Team Yashin vs Team Jagr after all.
Hasek - a legend, although not so good this season.

Western conference has far better wingers than Sushinsky. Even SKA has two better wingers than Sushinsky (Weinhandl and Afinogenov).

Yashin is old and washed up. Fedorov is even a bigger legend. Yet he is not an all star.

Hasek sucks now.

Western conference has far better wingers than Sushinsky. Even SKA has two better wingers than Sushinsky (Weinhandl and Afinogenov).

Yashin is old and washed up. Fedorov is even a bigger legend. Yet he is not an all star.

Hasek sucks now.

You do know that the starting lineups are voted by the fans right?

Western conference has far better wingers than Sushinsky. Even SKA has two better wingers than Sushinsky (Weinhandl and Afinogenov).

Yashin is old and washed up. Fedorov is even a bigger legend. Yet he is not an all star.

Hasek sucks now.

Afinogenov is also on the roster, as well as Winhandl, so don't worry.
Yashin might be old, but he's still "the leader", "the legend", "the veteran", he's one of the faces of the league, no matter what. You can't have Team Yashin without him, it wouldn't make sense.

And Hasek might be old and not so good these days but fans voted for him cause it's his first season in the league and also might be the last, who knows, first and maybe last chance to see him in an all-star game.

You do know that the starting lineups are voted by the fans right?

Yes, I do know that.

Demitra first hat-trick in KHL

4-2 (Yaroslavl-Magnitogorsk)

also regarding youth in KHL, Salavat had roster problems, with many injured (Nilsson, Klepis, Grigorenko, Konstantin Koltsov, Svitov) it had given a chance for our prospects, so when big guys returned on ice, 2 of our youngsters wasn't delegated back to VHL-MHL now they are playing : Mikhail Grigoriev and Pankov Alexandr

Pankov is looking very good atm i'm very glad that he made his way to the main team because Polozov and Gordeev was moved down to MHL-VHL but this boy hold his spot thou playing not big minutes

Grigoriev is looking like he started the season with SY, very good game, in today's game he is playing on PP and PK units, last game he had assist draggin the puck in the zone by himself, his play style is Kirill Koltsov alike, flashy moves with the puck, great skating, great hockey I.Q., he's a good passer

i think Grigoriev was very dissapointed that he was sent back from the WJC camp, now he's working hard and look great, i'm sure he wants to show Bragin he was ready to play at WJC

P:S: upd: Grigoriev with an assist in today's game which has just ended SY-Atlant: 4-3

regarding youth more:

from WJC roster: Kuznetsov assist Burdasov goal in 6-1 win (Traktor-Torpedo)

Artemy Panarin with winning shoot-out goal yesterday (Vityaz-Dinamo Moscow 4-3SO) btw. Miro Satan hadn't scored yesterday on his SO try.

P:S: to me it looks like young players is giving more credit this season and i hope it will be the same next year, Magnitogorsk for example playing almost full 4th line with their prospects, ofc their MHL team won the cup and boys deserve it, even their goalie Voloshin played a game in KHL (maybe more than a game i saw only one myself) more to add Berdyukov from WJC roster is finaly got his place in SKA roster, bearing in mind SKA's fully packed rosters it's great he had 12.54 ice time in a 2-1 win over CSKA yesterday more than Vishnevski who's considired a star defenceman

Hope the all-star game's outcome will determine the home ice for the Gagarin Cup finals.

Salavat should let Pankov play and let non-producing veteran like Oleg Saprykin sit on the bench. Whatever happened to Saprykin anyway? He used to be a good national team player a couple of years ago, but now he cannot produce in the KHL.

Wow:amazed:

I'm impressed, he has very good voice.

If only the team allowed him to sing the national anthems before home games that he doesn't start...

Salavat should let Pankov play and let non-producing veteran like Oleg Saprykin sit on the bench. Whatever happened to Saprykin anyway? He used to be a good national team player a couple of years ago, but now he cannot produce in the KHL.

who knows...lazy?

His style of play complimented Radulov on the NT. Remove Radulov and he hasn't been a good player the last few years.

His style of play complimented Radulov on the NT. Remove Radulov and he hasn't been a good player the last few years.

Yet this does not explain why Saprykin was very good in CSKA but became quite useless once he left there.

Hope the all-star game's outcome will determine the home ice for the Gagarin Cup finals.
No thanks, a match where the players dont even try and fans pick their own players/league favourites should have nothing to do with the finals. I believe last year Mezin came out of his net, held onto an attacker, spun around with him while his defence came and picked up the puck, so no way. Not unless hockey reporters pick only the true stars and the players play like its a real match, then maybe.

Dynamo has gone in the tank losing 10 straight. Pretty much assured they won't catch Lokomotiv and SKA is about to pass them.

Dynamo has gone in the tank losing 10 straight. Pretty much assured they won't catch Lokomotiv and SKA is about to pass them.

It's because they miss Filip Novak. :sarcasm:

does anybody actually know what is happening with them?

does anybody actually know what is happening with them?

people thing too much training the team peaked too early and now a major slump.

Dynamo added Dmitri Pestunov today. He could be a good setup man for Satan.

Dynamo added Dmitri Pestunov today. He could be a good setup man for Satan.

they had also cut Medvedev...pretty much a lateral movement: ok - defensive player out, ok - offensive player in.

Červenka 2+1 and Jarda Jágr 0+3 in a 4-2 victory over Nizhnekamsk. Omsk is now leading the league with 93 points.

Červenka 2+1 and Jarda Jágr 0+3 in a 4-2 victory over Nizhnekamsk. Omsk is now leading the league with 93 points.

if Ramo is healthy and playing well - they may be a contender this year.

Yet another update on the KHL Store:
The "Coming Soon" section now contains first club-specific fan merchandise! It's not jerseys yet, nor scarfs, it's baseball caps. 4 total: 2 types of Spartak caps, 1 SKA and 1 Avangard.

Hopefully this is a good sign of more club specific fan merchandise to come in the near future, including hockey sweaters.

Yet another update on the KHL Store:
The "Coming Soon" section now contains first club-specific fan merchandise! It's not jerseys yet, nor scarfs, it's baseball caps. 4 total: 2 types of Spartak caps, 1 SKA and 1 Avangard.

Hopefully this is a good sign of more club specific fan merchandise to come in the near future, including hockey sweaters.

Once jerseys arrive, the KHL store will have more customers than ever before.

Once jerseys arrive, the KHL store will have more customers than ever before.

the question is - do they care? Is the set up of the store another form of money laundering? I mean - the answer they send me in response on the MHL catalog shows they don't give a damn...

Jonas Andersson goes to Kazan. Kazan and Yaroslavl are my picks for Gagarin Cup.

Jonas Andersson goes to Kazan. Kazan and Yaroslavl are my picks for Gagarin Cup.

Kazan's 3-peat is in no intereset of the league, but they look great...While I agree with your prognosis I will go on a limb and say Avangard or Salavat (even though I really don't want them to)

I watched SKA-Traktor today and I can say that Evgeny Kuznetsov played really great. Scored one goal and one assist, had one missed breakway and one fabulous one-on-one deke but just missed the net.

He looked so good that I would pick him as a candidate for the World Championships team. Let him play in Euro Hockey Tour and see how he does.

Kazan's 3-peat is in no intereset of the league, but they look great...While I agree with your prognosis I will go on a limb and say Avangard or Salavat (even though I really don't want them to)

I don't believe Avangard can beat Kazan or Ufa in eastern conference finals. They have overachieved so far. They have a good roster but not as talented and deep as Kazan and Ufa.

Yaroslavl is my pick over SKA in the east. They have a younger and faster team. Although their goalie Koschnew might be the weak link.

I don't believe Avangard can beat Kazan or Ufa in eastern conference finals. They have overachieved so far. They have a good roster but not as talented and deep as Kazan and Ufa.

Yaroslavl is my pick over SKA in the east. They have a younger and faster team. Although their goalie Koschnew might be the weak link.

I said I agree with you, Lokomotiv must get a new goalie (which they won't)...Just wanted to look somewhere else)

as of the standings right now, it would be CKA-Riga, which would be epic

no upsets though!?

I say something like:

Atlant Mettalurg
Ceverstal Sibir
Spartak

match 2 of the 5....
Maybe throw in one of the expected finalists on one side

if SKA is not in the finals it will be much desired epic failure! They just singed Avto's leader Bushuev and working hard to get Kuznetsov....I hope the bus...rds fail

if SKA is not in the finals it will be much desired epic failure! They just singed Avto's leader Bushuev and working hard to get Kuznetsov....I hope the bus...rds fail

I don't like SKA much but I hope they succeed this time, because they have good fan support. And I hope they manage to sign Kuznetsov for the next year too so we can see him in Russia for one more year.

I don't like SKA much but I hope they succeed this time, because they have good fan support. And I hope they manage to sign Kuznetsov for the next year too so we can see him in Russia for one more year.

where was their fan-support before Gazprom? I mean come on, don't be so naive. Same for Zenit, where were they in the 90's and late 80's? Their politics are foul, their president is immoral thief and a liar.

where was their fan-support before Gazprom?

Where is CSKA's fanbase now? Watching basketball and football probably where CSKA is still a rich and competative team. CSKA fans are attracted by success just like any other fans...

Where is CSKA's fanbase now? Watching basketball and football probably where CSKA is still a rich and competative team. CSKA fans are attracted by success just like any other fans...
+100500

I feel really bad for Metallurg Novokuznetsk. First their goalie leaves to become an NHL show stopper, then, after an awesome performance at WJC, Kitsyn is in the OHL, and now Orlov wants to head to the AHL mid february.....
All very young and talanted players, that could definately have helped the team and probably get it out of its second place rank....Sad to see.

Speaking of that, does anyone know about the developements of Metallurg Novokuznetsk, or are they following a Lada script?

Radulov scored over 200 points in KHL. 3 assists in his last game (200, 201, 202). Overall - 72 goals, 130 assists in 175 games.

I feel really bad for Metallurg Novokuznetsk. First their goalie leaves to become an NHL show stopper, then, after an awesome performance at WJC, Kitsyn is in the OHL, and now Orlov wants to head to the AHL mid february.....


Yea it is a shame, and the other day Barys scored 10 goals on them :amazed:

I feel really bad for Metallurg Novokuznetsk. First their goalie leaves to become an NHL show stopper, then, after an awesome performance at WJC, Kitsyn is in the OHL, and now Orlov wants to head to the AHL mid february.....
All very young and talanted players, that could definately have helped the team and probably get it out of its second place rank....Sad to see.

Speaking of that, does anyone know about the developements of Metallurg Novokuznetsk, or are they following a Lada script?

very much possible (the Lada Script) and Avto is on the same path

So now Marek and Kozlov are leaving CSKA...

Radulov scored over 200 points in KHL. 3 assists in his last game (200, 201, 202). Overall - 72 goals, 130 assists in 175 games.

Jágr has reached this number too. 201 points in 205 games (88+113).

And I have reached my 200th post. :D

what is going on with CSKA!!!!!!!!!
they lost 4 good players(including superstar Marek, and veteran Kozlov), and only gained some teenager from nizhnekamsk!!!!

What are their plans??? to skate Krasnaya Armiya players and have an average age of 22 for the next KHL season???

what is going on with CSKA!!!!!!!!!
they lost 4 good players(including superstar Marek, and veteran Kozlov), and only gained some teenager from nizhnekamsk!!!!

What are their plans??? to skate Krasnaya Armiya players and have an average age of 22 for the next KHL season???

? They are simply cutting salary. They can't get into playoffs anymore so no point of having expensive veterans on a roster. If they want they will be able to sign Marek and Kozlov to new deals in off-season. That's how hockey works.

Is Marek really considered a superstar in Russia? If so, then he is pretty underrated at home, just like many other Czechs playing abroad :shakehead

Is Marek really considered a superstar in Russia? If so, then he is pretty underrated at home, just like many other Czechs playing abroad :shakehead

he is very good player but he has declined since 2007-2008 or league has become more hard to play in or both. Personally I think that it is both.

Is Marek really considered a superstar in Russia? If so, then he is pretty underrated at home, just like many other Czechs playing abroad :shakehead


I dont know about in general, but I do. Before his major injury he had over 70 points and something like 35 goals in 56 games. Also he was on top in the Champions league. I think he still has alot of potential. If he gets on with a good team, he can probably get on the leaderboard top 1-10

And Avto has begun their player dump like CSKA with Bushuev, Subbotin, and Riazantsev all leaving recently.

And Avto has begun their player dump like CSKA with Bushuev, Subbotin, and Riazantsev all leaving recently.

may be Avto's last hurah....in no league in the world I had seen teams compete with such shortened rosters like Avto today...KHL is truly garbage until there's some sort of parity reinstated.

Alexander Radulov today tied KHL all time regular season record in points, which is 08/09 Mozyakin - 75 (34+41). Now Radulov has also 75 (19+56) and still has 5 games to play. So with next point he sets up new record. :handclap:

Alexander Radulov today tied KHL all time regular season record in points, which is 08/09 Mozyakin - 75 (34+41). Now Radulov has also 75 (19+56) and still has 5 games to play. So with next point he sets up new record. :handclap:

According this (http://www.khl.ru/stat/leaders/160/) Mozyakin had 76 pts in 08/09.
When you look at calendar, here (http://www.khl.ru/calendar/) You can see that Salavat Yulaev will play only 3 games in Regular.
16.2 in Riga
18.2. in Minsk
20.2 in CSKA

to sum up, I hope Radulov will earn more than 76 pts

According this (http://www.khl.ru/stat/leaders/160/) Mozyakin had 76 pts in 08/09.
When you look at calendar, here (http://www.khl.ru/calendar/) You can see that Salavat Yulaev will play only 3 games in Regular.
16.2 in Riga
18.2. in Minsk
20.2 in CSKA

to sum up, I hope Radulov will earn more than 76 pts

You're right :blush: Well, that could be close. Hopefully he'll make it.

If both Avtomobilist and Vityaz were to fold, where would these teams go?

If both Avtomobilist and Vityaz were to fold, where would these teams go?
who knows? There is possibility that in Sochi will be a team of KHL. Because there will be a new arena for 12 000. (http://forums.internationalhockey.net/showthread.php?t=10328) (scroll down)

who knows? There is possibility that in Sochi will be a team of KHL. Because there will be a new arena for 12 000. (http://forums.internationalhockey.net/showthread.php?t=10328) (scroll down)

there most definitely will be a team in Sochi - they were thinking to move Spartak there, but that died out a bit.

there most definitely will be a team in Sochi - they were thinking to move Spartak there, but that died out a bit.
I would move Vityaz Chekhov because:
1. club is located near Moscow and we know that people dont visit hockey so much in Moscow.
2 Its arena has capacity only 3 300. Spartak could play in Khodonka possibly (I know about financial problems in Spartak).
3We know how Checkov plays
4 Checkov is not so old/traditional club as Spartak or other Moscow/Moscow area clubs are.

I would move Vityaz Chekhov because:
1. club is located near Moscow and we know that people dont visit hockey so much in Moscow.
2 Its arena has capacity only 3 300. Spartak could play in Khodonka possibly (I know about financial problems in Spartak).
3We know how Checkov plays
4 Checkov is not so old/traditional club as Spartak or other Moscow/Moscow area clubs are.

Chehov's game are well attended (minding the small arena) - in all honesty CSKA and Spartak and Dynamo need new arenas or move the hell out.

Chehov's game are well attended (minding the small arena) - in all honesty CSKA and Spartak and Dynamo need new arenas or move the hell out.

ok about attendance in Checkov.
Do you think that CSKA/Spartak/Dynamo would have better attendance if they had new big (cca 12 000 or more) arenas?

While an outdated arena would scare off a few fans, we can't be sure of the impact of a new, if only 8,000-seat, arena would be.

Players of the month:

-Best goaltender of the month went to Dominik Hasek (Spartak). The Czech goalie played 11 games in January, of which his team won ten. Hasek kept the opposition of the scoreboard four times last month, allowed an average of 1.57 goals per game and saved 94.9% of shots;

- Best defenseman of the month went to Kevin Dallman (Barys). In January the Astana team’s captain took part in 13 games, scored 14 points (3 goals, 11 assists) and achieved a rating of +9;

- Best forward of January went to Pavol Demitra (Lokomotiv), who featured in 11 games, scoring 8 goals and supplying the passes for 11 more to finish January at a +5;

- Best rookie of the month went to Spartak Moscow defenseman Grigory Zheldakov, who assisted on three goals in his 12 games, during which he averaged 18 minutes and 10 seconds on the ice.

http://en.khl.ru/news/2011/2/1/24025.html

ok about attendance in Checkov.
Do you think that CSKA/Spartak/Dynamo would have better attendance if they had new big (cca 12 000 or more) arenas?

moscow factors come to play too - traffic jams (hard to get to the games on time - Moscow is humongous), lots of alternatives - moscow should really have one team - two tops.

moscow factors come to play too - traffic jams (hard to get to the games on time - Moscow is humongous), lots of alternatives - moscow should really have one team - two tops.

Yet many more people manage to beat the traffic jams to see CSKA play basketball and football. It mainly boils down to the fact that team iced is poor and unattractive for the fans of such a proud club. Better advertisement, new arena would be first steps towards upping the attendances, but icing a contender team is the main spectator magnet not all the shiny stuff one could imagine around the hockey.

I agree - it feels like that there is too many in Moscow, but the relocation of one, lets say Spartak, won't help other teams. None of Spartak fans would go and watch Dinamo or CSKA playing. Those clubs have hardcore and I mean HARDCORE fanbase, that would simply turn to other sports.

moscow factors come to play too - traffic jams (hard to get to the games on time - Moscow is humongous), lots of alternatives - moscow should really have one team - two tops.

thank you for reply.

When we look at attendance numbers here (http://stats.sportbox.ru/games.php?sp=hk&turnir=218&pitem=6#%20podval) (I dont know if it is official, but should be correct), so we can see that Moscow teams are one of worst. CSKA is 22rd, Spartak 19th, Vityaz 18th. Dinamo Moscow is better (IMHO) because thay have played some games in Khodynka/Megasport.

I heard that Spartak is poorer from Moscow hockey clubs (Dinamo/CSKA/Spartak). Maybe it would make sense to move it to another city. But Spartak is (for me and many people I believe) a history, tradition.

I agree with you that ideal number of teams in Moscow is two. But all three (Dinamo/CSKA/Spartak) are great brands.

I hope that KHL, clubs will do their best to improve attendance in Moscow for new season.

guys, when you write about jams in Moscow. Where will be situated new arena for Dinamo (World cup 2018) - Petrovsky park. Is it somewhere in center or not? What about traffic to this complex?

CSKA Spartak Dynamo the three should always be a force in Moscow. There's no reason why they can't succeed.

Dynamo is doing better because they have a better team and better arenas...It's quite simple.

Cska-Spartak should build a new arena together and play in it it's also quite simple.

Also why isn't the main Luzhniki arena being used?

Finally they should paint those seats at Khodynka all the same colour because it's horrible.

Get Vityaz the hell out of hockey... For competitive reasons i'd say 20 teams would be perfect for KHL.

CSKA and Spartak sharing the same arena??? unheard off....
Dinamo is back to Luzhniki, out of Hodynka.

Are CSKA/Spartak planning to build new arenas? like Dinamo. Or it is impossible right now.