Sources say the Caps have offered winger Alexander Semin all around the league. He has one year at $6 million left on his contract, and is a looming unrestricted free agent after next season.

Nobody is sure what Semin might fetch, although there’s a belief the Caps will want two high-end prospects and a pick. Semin had 40 goals and 84 points in 73 games last season.

“It wouldn’t surprise me if they moved Semin,” a league executive said Friday. “They need to make that lineup a little harder to play against and that guy is up and down.”

http://www.ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/2010/06/18/14446071.html

If the Caps are doing this then they are looking to save $6 Million, then use that money spend it on a center and a defenseman in free agency. Teams that come to mind are L.A., Vancouver, Edmonton, etc.?

Edmonton?

High end prospects... JMO.

defenseman.

In before a Kaberle + Grabovski offer shows up :P

Why in the world would Vancouver be interested?

kaberle grabovski

In before a Kaberle + Grabovski offer shows up :P

I'm sure you just triggered it.

http://www.ottawasun.com/sports/hock.../14446071.html

If the Caps are doing this then they are looking to save $6 Million, then use that money spend it on a center and a defenseman. Teams that come to mind are L.A., Vancouver, Edmonton, etc.?

they sign volchenkov and trade semin, poti, flieschmann and a 2nd for carle and coburn if they can sign hamhuis but thats just a dream

green-volchenkov
carle-coburn
alzner-carlson


sigh

http://www.ottawasun.com/sports/hock.../14446071.html

If the Caps are doing this then they are looking to save $6 Million, then use that money spend it on a center and a defenseman. Teams that come to mind are L.A., Vancouver, Edmonton, etc.?

...wonder if a 3-way could be done with another team and ATL in order to get him in Thrasherville?

throwing things against the wall - thoughts?

It says two high end prospects and a pick is the belief of what the return would need to be.

Souray?

I'm sure someone will acquire him for the elite offense he brings in the regular season, I'm just wondering who will give up 2 high-end prospects and a pick for a player who flamed out so spectacularly the last 2 playoffs.

Broken hand last year and still did good. Most shots in the NHL in the 1st Round, he had a huge presence just could not dent the twine.

Semin for Brodeur.

At least that's what Eklund says. :laugh:

Favourite player, would love to see him in Ottawa, but i just dont see it working out, if he does get moved hopefully its to a team i can enjoy cheering for

they sign volchenkov and trade semin, poti, flieschmann and a 2nd for carle and coburn if they can sign hamhuis but thats just a dream

green-volchenkov
carle-coburn
alzner-carlson


sigh

Caps said they're not going for Volchenkov.

If GMGM trade Semin away this offseason he's the biggest idiot ever.
Why would he sign Semin to a one year 6m deal which decrease his value (because he'll be UFA next summer and the KHL factor) and then trade him in the summer? If he wanted to trade him, he should have let Semin become a RFA which would not have decrease his value and then trade him away this summer.
Trading Semin now makes no sense because GMGM will never have full value for him even with the money the deal would save.

Why in the world would Vancouver be interested?


sedin-sedin-semin

that is all

Just repeating what I reat on twitter and also a few other sites:

To Washington: Kipper, Sarich
To Calgary: Semin, Neuwirth

sedin-sedin-semin

that is all

Yeah no thank you, Hodgson, Schroeder, 1st for Semin is stupid. Besides Canucks have enough offence we need defence.

Just repeating what I reat on twitter and also a few other sites:

To Washington: Kipper, Sarich
To Calgary: Semin, Neuwirth

seems like fair value.......Cgy also gets a bit of cap break....gets offence but That is Kipper they are giving up a lot


secondly n oway van is intrested with theri offence and grweat prospectas coming up the pipeline this year and next year.

Just repeating what I reat on twitter and also a few other sites:

To Washington: Kipper, Sarich
To Calgary: Semin, Neuwirth

Terrible, would not trade Semin for either one, let alone both, even without considering that we have three good young goalies.

Yeah no thank you, Hodgson, Schroeder, 1st for Semin is stupid. Besides Canucks have enough offence we need defence.

Ya I agree Semin to Van doesn't make much sense. But if the deal did go down it would be a lot less than that. Huge overpayment from van.

I still want
Semin for Regehr

Terrible, would not trade Semin for either one, let alone both, even without considering that we have three good young goalies.

Explanation from Washington beat writer was that GM wants a mentor for Varlamov - not sure he can go the distance quite yet.

It would be more like one of Hogdson/Schroeder+ Grabner+Pick I guess? What else would make sense?

to florida. semin - next bure.

:d

Explanation from Washington beat writer was that GM wants a mentor for Varlamov - not sure he can go the distance quite yet.
IF anything, and again that is very doubtful a vet goalie for $1 or $2 Million, but even that is pretty much out of the question. If the Caps trade Semin they are going to spend the money in free agency, not invest it in a goalie of which we have three pretty good young ones.

Explanation from Washington beat writer was that GM wants a mentor for Varlamov - not sure he can go the distance quite yet.

I just checked the Capitals beat writers site and he had nothing so I'm wondering if your pulling stuff out your ass or you have a source im missing?

sedin-sedin-semin

that is all

:facepalm:

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows

That isn't all...

Sedin - Sedin - Samuelsson


Just because Semin's name is one letter from Sedin doesn't mean he is the perfect fit on the Sedin line.

I just checked the Capitals beat writers site and he had nothing so I'm wondering if your pulling stuff out your ass or you have a source im missing?

Twitter, my friend, twitter

Twitter, my friend, twitter

Beat writer doesn't have it on his twitter?
so link I guess?

Twitter, my friend, twitter

Can you please post the link then? You said it came directly from the beat writer.

Twitter, my friend, twitter

http://twitter.com/tarikelbashir

Where?

Can you please post the link then? You said it came directly from the beat writer.

It was a couple of weeks ago...I will go back and check...hold please :)

Not there.

It was a couple of weeks ago...I will go back and check...hold please :)

Well the Capitals beat writer has NEVER said this, so please stop pulling stuff out your ass

Well the Capitals beat writer has NEVER said this, so please stop pulling stuff out your ass

Listen, I'm not so quit acusing me of something that I haven't done...I simply said I read this on twitter and then again on a few other sights...I have to go back into twitter account and check it out...lots of tweets to sort through over the last few weeks...at the end of the day I am just joining a conversation that is purely speculative at best so get off your high horse and lighten up. Thanks.

Listen, I'm not so quit acusing me of something that I haven't done...I simply said I read this on twitter and then again on a few other sights...I have to go back into twitter account and check it out...lots of tweets to sort through over the last few weeks...at the end of the day I am just joining a conversation that is purely speculative at best so get off your high horse and lighten up. Thanks.

hmm well you said the Capitals beat writer said it, which is false I'm pretty sure a Capitals fan would have noticed. Maybe you saw Eklund or another moron tweet that but the Capitals beat writer did not.

It would be more like one of Hogdson/Schroeder+ Grabner+Pick I guess? What else would make sense?

what would make sense is moving Semin to a team that will actually need him enough to justify paying $6mill for him.

That is not Vancouver! They have all their top-6 guys locked up other than Raymond (who'll come at half the price), have a balanced offense overall and huge holes on defense. Any cap space left has to go to defense.

Semin is not needed at all in Vancouver. Waste of assets and cap space for the Canucks.

I could see a Semin + Alzner + something else deal for Carter + Coburn deal. I'm not sure how untouchable Alzner is, but I would imagine he would be available in a deal for another big time center. A one-two punch at center in Backstrom and Carter is more useful than a one-two punch at wing in Ovechkin and Semin.

Not to mention Carter isn't useless defensively.

I dont know what the Caps could add either. I dont see the Flyers accepting this without something relatively substantial.

All I know is I see quite a bit of potential for chemistry between Semin and Giroux.

Very little chance the Caps do the Semin+Alzner for Carter+Coburn deal, and no chance they add anything else.

What happened to the rumored Semin for Regehr deal?

hmm well you said the Capitals beat writer said it, which is false I'm pretty sure a Capitals fan would have noticed. Maybe you saw Eklund or another moron tweet that but the Capitals beat writer did not.

Just to be clear...I didn't say the rumor of the trade came for Wash. beat writer...I know where that came from - it was a Calgary twitter-er....I said that it was a Wash. writer who suggested that the GM was looking for a veteran goalie....clear?

Why would they give him a contract extension if he's being "shopped around?"

sedin-sedin-semin

that is all
This is someone who's obviously never seen the Sedin's play. Why is Burrows so effective on the Sedins line? Is it because he's real speedy and has a good shot? No, its because he has the jam to get to the area's where the Sedin's can work their magic.


I would never trade for Semin with the current Canuck roster the way it is. Absolutely horrific to trade our top notch prospects in a cap era for a player that doesn't address an organizational need.

with semin gone, what would the caps' 2nd line look like?

This is someone who's obviously never seen the Sedin's play. Why is Burrows so effective on the Sedins line? Is it because he's real speedy and has a good shot? No, its because he has the jam to get to the area's where the Sedin's can work their magic.

Now somebody's thinking.

http://www.ottawasun.com/sports/hock.../14446071.html

If the Caps are doing this then they are looking to save $6 Million, then use that money spend it on a center and a defenseman in free agency. Teams that come to mind are L.A., Vancouver, Edmonton, etc.?

I don't see L.A. being interested.

with semin gone, what would the caps' 2nd line look like?

Laich-2C (Lombardi?)-Fehr/2RW (Frolov?)

Without signing anyone probably Laich-MP/Mjo/Flash-Fehr?

Semin is pretty much the opposite of what the Canucks need. No chance Gillis trades for him.

50 or so posts and nobody has mentioned that is another Bruce Garrioch rumour?

Laich-2C (Lombardi?)-Fehr/2RW (Frolov?)

Without signing anyone probably Laich-MP/Mjo/Flash-Fehr?

the 1st part could be a coin toss, but the 2nd part doesn't seem very promising.

sedin-sedin-semin

that is all

Canucks have no problem scoring, they need to be tougher to play against, much like the caps, and improve their defense.

also Sedin-Sedin-any player in the league is a great line, why would we spend 6 million dollars on someone to knock pucks in off of?

the 1st part could be a coin toss, but the 2nd part doesn't seem very promising.
Three Twenty-Thirty Plus/Potential goal scorers. Take into account that if Semin is traded a Winger+ Center are probably going to be brought in.

To Washington Mike Fisher Centre shoots right and prospect Roman Wick forward shoots right currently playing in Switzerland.
To Ottawa Alex Semin winger to play beautiful hockey with Alfredsonn and a defenseman pick. Available Patrick McNeill, Sean Collins, Josh Godfrey, Joe Finley, Zach Miscovic.

May be an overpayment by Washington.

I'd do Stepan, Grachev and Gilroy for him.

Josh Gorges + Pacioretty

I'd do Stepan, Grachev and Gilroy for him.

That sounds like an overpayment from the rangers

Regehr, Moss for Semin

That sounds like an overpayment from the rangers

yea assuming they release Jokinen and free up the money and maybe bury Redden in the minors.

Vancouver was the 2 nd highest scoring team in the league, why vive up quality assets for a player you don't really need?

Josh Gorges + Pacioretty

Dream on.

Gorges is Mr. Under The Radar for the Habs and Pacioretty will be developed properly... or hopefully... either way.

Umm i dont know if this has been addressed or not but if Semin is really being shopped then was Eklund right? Atleast alittle bit?

He was certainly the first i heard mention anything about it, sure the trade itself was crazy but still maybe there was alittle truth behind it. Like NJ asked what the Caps wanted and heard they wanted Brodeur and hung up. Still some truth to what he said.

Basically my point is did Eklund actually know about Semin being shopped first?

Regehr, Moss for Semin

Semin for Regehr straight up I'd be so happy
Regehr would be perfect to play with Green

Umm i dont know if this has been addressed or not but if Semin is really being shopped then was Eklund right? Atleast alittle bit?

He was certainly the first i heard mention anything about it, sure the trade itself was crazy but still maybe there was alittle truth behind it. Like NJ asked what the Caps wanted and heard they wanted Brodeur and hung up. Still some truth to what he said.

Basically my point is did Eklund actually know about Semin being shopped first?

eh, proposals here showed up before eklund said it. We are his #1 source.

Although if eklund gets it 100% correct, we'll decalre that day Eklunday

Caps said they're not going for Volchenkov.

alright replace him with michalek, martin, or kubina

...wonder if a 3-way could be done with another team and ATL in order to get him in Thrasherville?

throwing things against the wall - thoughts?

:naughty:

I'm sure someone will acquire him for the elite offense he brings in the regular season, I'm just wondering who will give up 2 high-end prospects and a pick for a player who flamed out so spectacularly the last 2 playoffs.

A team that would be happy just to make the playoffs.

Regehr for Semin? Yeah?

Where ever he goes he will make a 'quick impact' i hope he can 'stick' around with one team

Where ever he goes he will make a 'quick impact' i hope he can 'stick' around with one team

I hope he can carry the load wherever he goes. Also he better not choke.

I'm sure someone will acquire him for the elite offense he brings in the regular season, I'm just wondering who will give up 2 high-end prospects and a pick for a player who flamed out so spectacularly the last 2 playoffs.

Are you counting one of those flameouts as last year when he scored 14 points in 14 games despite having a bum wrist?

Or is it the year before that when he had 8 points in 7 games?

50 or so posts and nobody has mentioned that is another Bruce Garrioch rumour?

#1. This....we believe this? why?
#2. When was the last time an actual McPhee trade hit the media in advance of the official announcement?

Are you counting one of those flameouts as last year when he scored 14 points in 14 games despite having a bum wrist?

Or is it the year before that when he had 8 points in 7 games?

I'm counting the previous two series he's been in, where he's played like a dog.

I'm counting the previous two series he's been in, where he's played like a dog.

are you counting the series where he was the series best player (not including goalies) :sarcasm:

Last time I tried to shop Semin there were no takers :(

:caps

Travis Zajac
David Clarkson
ATL's 2nd '10

:devils

Alex Semin
Karl Alzner

to NYR: Semin
to WSH: Bobby Sangs, Callahan, next yrs first.

flame away (=

ferrence and wideman,hamill and 15th overall for semin,

I could see him flourishing in Detroit, where Babcock will whip him into a better overall player.

No idea what they would move for him though, I'm guessing it'd be a defenseman (Stuart? Kronwall?) and/or one of Flip/Hudler. Washington might then need to add something.

:naughty:

Sorry got mixed up thinking about something else. Forgive me. :)
Ignore/see edits below!


to ATL: Semin

to CHI: Machacek/Espo, ATL 2nd Rounder 2010

to WAS: 8th overall (ATL), Patrick Sharp, ATL 3rd rounder?

Chicago - gets a much needed salary dump/not much coming back and a pick
Was - high pick and 2nd/possible 1st liner with great skill
Atl - star to replace Kovy


Semin - Little - Bergfors
Kane/Pevs - Antropov - Pevs/Kane?
Morin - Cormier? - White?


add/remove/replace? ......be gentle :handclap:

:caps

Travis Zajac
David Clarkson
ATL's 2nd '10

:devils

Alex Semin
Karl Alzner

This one is really interesting.

Caps probably save about $2.5m in cap space, find the answer to their #2C quandry, get a gritty bottom-6 guy, get a valuable top-35 draft pick.

Devils get an elite 1st line scoring winger and an extremely promising defensive prospect who is ready to step into a top-4 role immediately.

My sense is that neither team would do this deal -- from the Washington perspective I think Alzner is nearly untouchable -- but it's a creative proposal.

Sorry got mixed up thinking about something else. Forgive me. :)
Ignore/see edits below!


to ATL: Semin

to CHI: Machacek/Espo, ATL 2nd Rounder 2010

to WAS: 8th overall (ATL), Patrick Sharp, ATL 3rd rounder?

Chicago - gets a much needed salary dump/not much coming back and a pick
Was - high pick and 2nd/possible 1st liner with great skill
Atl - star to replace Kovy


Semin - Little - Bergfors
Kane/Pevs - Antropov - Pevs/Kane?
Morin - Cormier? - White?


add/remove/replace? ......be gentle :handclap:

wow... a decent 3 way trade proposal. /highfive

Sorry got mixed up thinking about something else. Forgive me. :)
Ignore/see edits below!


to ATL: Semin

to CHI: Machacek/Espo, ATL 2nd Rounder 2010

to WAS: 8th overall (ATL), Patrick Sharp, ATL 3rd rounder?

Chicago - gets a much needed salary dump/not much coming back and a pick
Was - high pick and 2nd/possible 1st liner with great skill
Atl - star to replace Kovy


Semin - Little - Bergfors
Kane/Pevs - Antropov - Pevs/Kane?
Morin - Cormier? - White?


add/remove/replace? ......be gentle :handclap:

I just don't see Atlanta moving their 8th pick for a year of service with Semin. Of coarse if they could resign him then it might be different. I would think they would at least give a look into Semin but i'm not convinced they would do anything.

By the sounds of some of the values and the lack of interest in Semin, he probably would have been better off to miss the playoffs with injury.

Semin's "low" value is going to have to be swallowed by the Caps.

wow... a decent 3 way trade proposal. /highfive

...thought you'd like that one! :naughty:

I just don't see Atlanta moving their 8th pick for a year of service with Semin. Of coarse if they could resign him then it might be different. I would think they would at least give a look into Semin but i'm not convinced they would do anything.

true....assume we convince him to sign 5 yr/32 M?? Good with that? :D

:caps

Travis Zajac
David Clarkson
ATL's 2nd '10

:devils

Alex Semin
Karl Alzner

This one is really interesting.

Caps probably save about $2.5m in cap space, find the answer to their #2C quandry, get a gritty bottom-6 guy, get a valuable top-35 draft pick.

Devils get an elite 1st line scoring winger and an extremely promising defensive prospect who is ready to step into a top-4 role immediately.

My sense is that neither team would do this deal -- from the Washington perspective I think Alzner is nearly untouchable -- but it's a creative proposal.

Trade looks fair to me, but if it wasn't for Alzner being one of the only few reliable defensemen we have then I would say yes.

Alex "Mr. Playoffs:sarcasm:" Semin

Where ever he goes he will make a 'quick impact' i hope he can 'stick' around with one team

I hope he can carry the load wherever he goes. Also he better not choke.

quoting for entertainment purposes

Sorry got mixed up thinking about something else. Forgive me. :)
Ignore/see edits below!


to ATL: Semin

to CHI: Machacek/Espo, ATL 2nd Rounder 2010

to WAS: 8th overall (ATL), Patrick Sharp, ATL 3rd rounder?

Chicago - gets a much needed salary dump/not much coming back and a pick
Was - high pick and 2nd/possible 1st liner with great skill
Atl - star to replace Kovy


White - Little - Semin
Kane/Pevs - Antropov - Pevs/Kane?
Morin - Cormier? - Little?


add/remove/replace? ......be gentle :handclap:

:handclap:

Anaheim for Sbisa, Holland and Philly's first
Atlanta for Cormier, Esposito, Machacek and NJD first
Boston for Colbourne, Arneil, Wheeler and 15th overall pick

Alex "Mr. Playoffs:sarcasm:" Semin

Wow, you`d think he was completely horrid.

28 games, 8 goals,16 assists,24 points.

Led the Caps in shots against the Habs, 44 shots in 7 games folks

Geez even Sid only got 1 goal against Halak.

Edmonton?

please no.

There's not many guys more skilled, I hope we can figure out how to keep him.

He is more clutch than most people realize, he's got over a ppg in the playoffs not including this year.

There's not many guys more skilled, I hope we can figure out how to keep him.

He is more clutch than most people realize, he's got over a ppg in the playoffs not including this year.

It was a 7 game series. That's 7 games vs the same team that has catered their play to shut the other team down. If Semin was getting shut down (and he did, but still managed to create pretty good chances) in the first couple of games... chances are he'll get shut down for the rest of the series. Players have bad series' like they do games. When it's the playoffs, those bad games tend to translate into a bad series. If they don't got the touch by game 2, then they're likely not going to at all.

Ovie didn't really play that well even though he had some production. His production came from hardwork/luck. Even in the last two games of the series he wasn't really that dominating. Hell the entire team wasn't performing that well.

Yes they outshot the Habs like crazy but if anyone actually watched those games, most of those shots were weak attempts at rebounds.

I just checked the Capitals beat writers site and he had nothing so I'm wondering if your pulling stuff out your ass or you have a source im missing?


although i dont have a link either i have heard the same rumours from reports and from a couple different friends of mine have heard. i dont remember where but that dosent mean they dont exist. your way out of line for getting on this guys case. he heard the same stuff i did. just hasnt been highly publiscised which probably means theres nothing to the rumours. they were from credible sources, just probably werent talked about by the gms for long. only difference is i heard theordore was coming calgarys way too. either way. kiprusoff for semin WAS rumoured somewhere so this guy wasnt pulling stuff out of his ass. stop being a *****

regehr for semin would be awesome for both teams btw. suprised washington fans seem to be all over this. feels like it would be a steal for calgary.

and also. that three way deal pitched before involving atlanta, chicago and washington is the best ive seen when it comes to three way deals on this site. :handclap::handclap: props my friend.

regehr for semin would be awesome for both teams btw. suprised washington fans seem to be all over this. feels like it would be a steal for calgary.



If you knew how pathetic our defense has been you'd understand. I don't think we need to make such a lopsided deal anymore though. We might have a good enough d to be able to let some guys develop with the club and not need to make a big trade or signing.

I think calgary needs a deal like that more than us.

By the sounds of some of the values and the lack of interest in Semin, he probably would have been better off to miss the playoffs with injury.

Have to agree here, same goes for green.

Good news is we might be able to work out an extension if his value does not rise.

Wow, you`d think he was completely horrid.

28 games, 8 goals,16 assists,24 points.

Led the Caps in shots against the Habs, 44 shots in 7 games folks

Geez even Sid only got 1 goal against Halak.

You're just looking at the statsheet. The shots were all low %, lazy perimeter. He wasn't making any physical sacrifices nor showing up in other ways. He had a putrid series.

I doubt the Red Wings want anything to do with him.

Not to sound like a troll:

But I sure am glad this guy isn't going to be in a Blackhawks or Senators jersey any time soon. Such a talented player but, he's so...unpredictable and injury prone. He's a risky deal. He's like a more talented, less clutch Martin Havlat.