Canadienjet
07-04-2010, 09:01 PM
Well as the title says who are wrestlers who had a great following? but made it to the WWE or TNA and were the subject to poor booking and horrible storylines and gimmicks.One comes to mind Nick Dinsmore(Eugene).
Wrestler(s) who were misused.Canadienjet 07-04-2010, 09:01 PM Well as the title says who are wrestlers who had a great following? but made it to the WWE or TNA and were the subject to poor booking and horrible storylines and gimmicks.One comes to mind Nick Dinsmore(Eugene). El Dandy 07-04-2010, 09:10 PM 1. Christian - WWE 2. Raven - WWE 3. D'Lo Brown - WWE HM: Steve Corino. Never in the WWF/E and only had a couple matches in TNA, but this guy was tremendous. LeafSadist 07-04-2010, 09:32 PM Ricky Steamboat in his second run in the WWF. Vince made him dress up in that awful Dragon attire and made him breathe fire. Just should have let him be himself and he would have been over because he's awesome. Terry Taylor as well. Apparently back in the day he was offered the Mr. Perfect gimmick but refused it since he thought it wouldn't get over. Instead he became a Red Rooster who wasn't so Terrific. DDP could have been great but Vince wouldn't let it happen. I still remember watching the reaction to him being Sara's stalker and the crowd went insane. Vince thought it'd be great to have Sara pin him and put him in the mid-card. ColePens 07-04-2010, 10:38 PM 1. Christian - WWE 2. Raven - WWE 3. D'Lo Brown - WWE Yep and yep... These three are definitely some of the biggest mis-used stars I can think of as well. In the newer era - I thought Batista was misused until the very last moments of his time in the E. He should have always been the cocky arrogant guy. He was absolutely hilarious and a great heel in the last couple of months. The Man in White 07-04-2010, 10:50 PM Well as the title says who are wrestlers who had a great following? but made it to the WWE or TNA and were the subject to poor booking and horrible storylines and gimmicks.One comes to mind Nick Dinsmore(Eugene). Dinsmore was the absolute first name that came to mind when I read the title. WalterSobchak 07-04-2010, 11:28 PM Big Van Vader - WWE He had some really great matches in WCW and was a monster. Terry Funk - WWE I think this one speaks for itself Seabass 07-05-2010, 12:18 AM Bam Bam Bigelow in WCW. Tazz in WWF. Terry Taylor was a great choice, too. CM Punk in TNA. Hackett 07-05-2010, 12:30 AM Currently, its Christian that comes to mind. I dont know too much about elijah burke but I heard that he's got a better gimmick in TNA. What about Carlito? Test? Owen Hart in the attitude era after Bret left, Chavo Guerrero, Alex Wright (although his gimmick was so stupid that it was funny :laugh:) starsfan24 07-05-2010, 12:51 AM Shelton Benjamin wasn't used very well when he was with the WWE. Hawkguy 07-05-2010, 02:04 AM Currently, its Christian that comes to mind. I dont know too much about elijah burke but I heard that he's got a better gimmick in TNA. What about Carlito? Test? Owen Hart in the attitude era after Bret left, Chavo Guerrero, Alex Wright (although his gimmick was so stupid that it was funny :laugh:) Here's and interview and titantron. Pope (Elijah Burke) is awesome in TNA. Pm0k084sJ8A 0EkAODLyvFc Alex Wright was my favourite wrestler for years. Personally, I love his gimmick when he was a heel (stupid face gimmick). I especially loved "The Dancing Fools/The Boogie Knights" gimmick he did with Disco Inferno. Wright was awesome in 1997. When he used to come out and dance in front of the Nitro Girls, he got MASSIVE heat (the problem was he'd do it one week and then WCW writers were stupid and waited a few more weeks to do it again). Then he'd cut a decent promo. And I especially loved when he was the champion and he used to dance over the title after he won. Awesome. How is this not an amazing heel? Listen to the heat. But WCW was too stupid to push him. 9KKaCPOyKkc 8vHw5dBchFQ FSRBLpK2mFo That's such a perfect "annoying" heel. Maybe not a main event caliber heel, but a strong upper-midcarder. It's too bad WCW never wanted to push new talent. On a similar note, his Berlyn gimmick was pretty badass too - especially with the music. Even with Disco and Alex returning in 2000, they get a huge pop for their "title" win. You think WCW would push them? Nope. 8QlD7naw29I As far as today goes, I'd go with Desmond Wolfe (TNA), Jimmy Rave (ROH - he's not even there anymore), Christian (WWE). A few years ago? Paul London, Shelton Benjamin, Charlie Haas. Surprised TNA hasn't picked up those 3 guys. Morozov 07-05-2010, 04:55 AM Definitely agree with previous mentions of Raven in WWE, Christian, Chavo and Burke. Other names I will throw out there, Kane, Ultimo Dragon in WWE, Natalya Neidhart, Gail Kim, Matt Morgan in WWE. Nalyd Psycho 07-05-2010, 05:04 AM TNA had no clue what to do with Samoa Joe... Hawkguy 07-05-2010, 06:14 AM Definitely agree with previous mentions of Raven in WWE, Christian, Chavo and Burke. Other names I will throw out there, Kane, Ultimo Dragon in WWE, Natalya Neidhart, Gail Kim, Matt Morgan in WWE. He's been in the WWE as Kane for around 13-years, with very few layoffs. He's won plenty of championships; 1x world champion 9x tag team champion 1x hardcore champion 2x intercontinental champion Maybe he could have been a bit bigger, but he's had a pretty solid career for the most part. Morozov 07-05-2010, 06:37 AM No denying that he has had a solid career, but his one world title was a joke, it barely deserves to be mentioned, he had it for one night. The hardcore title is pretty meaningless also. I think he won the ECW belt too? He could have had a couple of strong title reigns. He also faded into obscurity for awhile, everyone was screaming for monster Kane back for a reason. Listing the titles just further reinforces my point, can you think of anyone who deserved a real title run more than Kane? Hawkguy 07-05-2010, 06:49 AM No denying that he has had a solid career, but his one world title was a joke, it barely deserves to be mentioned, he had it for one night. The hardcore title is pretty meaningless also. I think he won the ECW belt too? He could have had a couple of strong title reigns. He also faded into obscurity for awhile, everyone was screaming for monster Kane back for a reason. Listing the titles just further reinforces my point, can you think of anyone who deserved a real title run more than Kane? Christian! :D Haha, yeah I think Kane was ECW Champion too. It just wasnt listed on the site I was looking at so I forgot to mention it. He's a good team player from what I hear. Never complains. Good company guy. Morozov 07-05-2010, 06:54 AM By all accounts you couldn't ask any more from an employee than him. All the more reason to have given him a real title run :) I used to fully dig Kane/Xpac team. Ozz 07-05-2010, 07:02 AM Hector Guerrero PROBABLY could've been a bit more useful in the WWF... http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slideshows/724/slideshow_72477/display_image.jpg mapes 07-05-2010, 08:20 AM Surprised no one has mentioned Stone Cold in WCW. They fired him in the mid 90's because Bischoff didn't see him as "marketable" :facepalm: CM Punk in TNA. Ozz 07-05-2010, 09:55 AM Surprised no one has mentioned Stone Cold in WCW. They fired him in the mid 90's because Bischoff didn't see him as "marketable" :facepalm: CM Punk in TNA. To be fair, not many people really cared about the Hollywood Blondes or "Stunning" Steve Austin...or even The Ringmaster when he hit the WWF. It just happened that the right guy fell into the right gimmick while he still had the chance before being let go again. The chances of getting the right guy to have the right gimmick at the right time aren't always good. For instance, Dan Spivey in the mid-90s when he was Waylon Mercy. That gimmick was pretty badass but way before its time. Right guy, right gimmick, wrong time. The same could be said for The Rock. Remember "The Blue Chipper" Rocky Maivia? Holy hell - he had to have had the biggest backfire of a face push ever in the WWF/E. Then, thankfully, nobody was stupid enough to not capitalize on the hate he generated by simply being there and The Rock gimmick came about. Hackett 07-05-2010, 07:19 PM After seeing that pope promo, it looks like he takes alot of inspiration from the rock. Those are some massive shoes to fill. He's good, but not rock good. KesselBuiltMyHotrod 07-05-2010, 08:24 PM 2. Raven - WWE Who the **** hired Raven? 3. D'Lo Brown - WWE Does burying count as misuse? Definitely on his second run, though. I was psyched when they brought him back, but it was like they literally had no plan for him. Such a waste. KesselBuiltMyHotrod 07-05-2010, 08:27 PM By all accounts you couldn't ask any more from an employee than him. All the more reason to have given him a real title run :) I used to fully dig Kane/Xpac team. And, by all accounts, he's happy where he is, and has never really wanted to be champ. Wasn't he booked to break Taker's streak, and shot it down? Reality Check 07-05-2010, 08:27 PM The death of Eddie Guerrero killed Kerwin White I was stoked to see more of that gimmick les Habs 07-05-2010, 10:02 PM So many out there and a lot of great suggestions in this thread. In no particular order other than Raven being first. 1 Raven for me. While he's not what he was in WCW, I still think they could do some great stuff with him in wrestling. I LOVED the Flock and even in WCW I think they weren't pushed enough. I mean imagine, NWO is somehow largely not in the building for a change and after the final match of the night and Hollywood has just won, Raven and the Flock enter the ring and Raven just sits in the corner doing his spiel and ripping on Hollywood. IMO that would have been so cool. In more recent times I think a guy like Raven could have had new Flocks or a Flock that changed over time. Still I think you could have written the Hardys or Kane, hell even Punk and Bourne feuding and in some casing part of the Flock. I'd actually make Eric Young a modern day Sick Boy who eventually breaks from the Flock and steps out. Of course it'd get repetitious having a guy feuding with Raven, joining the Flock and then falling out with the Flock over and over again with different wrestlers playing the role. Still I think it could definitely work. 2 The Horsemen in WCW during the NWO years. I could understand the Horsemen being 2nd fiddle to the NWO simply due to the numbers of the NWO. Still the Horsemen were made too weak and that stooge Mongo should never have been there. There was talk of Eddie Guerrero joining, and he wasn't that big yet, which would have been great had they got the best "heel" Eddie out of him. Hell, even instead of having Hennig swerve Flair they could have put him in the Horsemen. I prefer Guerrero, but at the end of the day they should have made them stronger. ALSO, they should have still made them heels to some extent. I think heel vs heel, as I suggested above with the Flock v NWO, can be great. 3 The NWO in the WWE. Don't get me wrong, I know they had their fair share of the spotlight at the time, but I think they could have exploited some of the feuds a bit better and made the NWO a bit stronger with heel turn by some pretty big face. Exactly who? I don't know. Actually I have an idea. 4 Eugene. Another one who could have fueded with Raven and joined the Flock. 5 Batista. Great call out ColePens on how he was doing just before he disappearred recently. 6 Definitely Alex Wright. I too loved him. 7 Post mask Kane. Don't know where the Undertaker revenge thing is at, but IMO he's been misused for some time. 8 Mick Foley once he became really big. Too much a face. 9 Latin American Xchange. Not those two entirely, but a Latino stable. In today's wrestling you could have Chavo, Rey, Hernandez, Homicide, Konnan. Imagine if Eddie were still alive as well. Love LAX's music and the way they came to the ring. Just keep Hector and Vicki away. 10 HHH in recent years. 11 Punk and SES. 12 Bryan Danielson. 13 Cody Rhodes. 14 Dolph Ziggler. 15 Tag Team Wrestling. 16 Hardcore/Extreme Title belt. 17 Cruiserweight Division. BackGroundMusic 07-05-2010, 10:11 PM He's been mentioned a few times in here but Terry Taylor is the epitome of a misused worker. Eskie Jetski 07-06-2010, 12:16 AM Well as the title says who are wrestlers who had a great following? but made it to the WWE or TNA and were the subject to poor booking and horrible storylines and gimmicks.One comes to mind Nick Dinsmore(Eugene). I heard that Nick Dinsmore was the one who came up with the Eugene character himself, so he kind of dug his own grave for giving himself a horrible stereotypical character. To tell you the truth, though, I did like the booking of the character in his first few months as all the top heels like Evolution and Kane would bully him around and all the top babyfaces, like the Rock, would rally around and be his friends. Believe it or not, Eugene actually got over during the spring and summer of 2004 until the Toronto crowd at SummerSlam cheered HHH instead and that pretty much spelled the end of Eugene's push. -------------------------------------- WCW blew an opportunity to push Buff Bagwell to better things in 1998 after he suffered that severe neck injury. A miracle comeback would have gotten him over huge but they threw him back into the 2nd-tier of the NWO. Ten years later, he was main eventing in a run-down arena for Monster Pro Wrestling, which is not even the biggest independent wrestling organization in Edmonton. -------------------------------------- I thought the Power and Glory tag team of Hercules Hernandez and Paul Roma in 1990-91 was something special at that time. Their finisher was a Hercules top-rope superplex followed by a Roma top-rope splash that required perfect timing to execute. I figured they would have been worthy of a tag title run but Vince chose the Nasty Boys instead and "Herc and Jerk" got jobbed out to the Legion of Doom in less than a minute at WrestleMania 7. BobbyClarkeFan16 07-06-2010, 12:40 AM I always thought Frankie Kazarian has been misused. His match that he had with Kurt Angle a few years ago was off the chart good. Why TNA didn't capitalize on that is beyond me. The dude is one of the best in the business and it doesn't help when TNA tries a face push, then heel push, then face push. Leave him and let him tear it up. Hawkguy 07-06-2010, 12:42 AM I thought the Power and Glory tag team of Hercules Hernandez and Paul Roma in 1990-91 was something special at that time. Their finisher was a Hercules top-rope superplex followed by a Roma top-rope splash that required perfect timing to execute. I figured they would have been worthy of a tag title run but Vince chose the Nasty Boys instead and "Herc and Jerk" got jobbed out to the Legion of Doom in less than a minute at WrestleMania 7. Paul Roma was a dick. Everyone knew that and it's why all of his pushes stopped before they started. He didn't care about anyone but himself. There are plenty of stories of him sandbagging people and putting people down. He completely bullied Alex Wright at, I believe, Superbrawl V for WCW - such a dick move. Also, in the 4-Horsemen DVD he says that Ric Flair is jealous of him because he's the best looking guy in the world or some crap. I do admit, I used to dig the Young Stallions though I did like Jim Powers better. At the same time, I'm glad Roma never got over. I always thought Frankie Kazarian has been misused. His match that he had with Kurt Angle a few years ago was off the chart good. Why TNA didn't capitalize on that is beyond me. The dude is one of the best in the business and it doesn't help when TNA tries a face push, then heel push, then face push. Leave him and let him tear it up. They've tried pushing him quite a few times. I think his lack of personality really hurts him. They eventually gave him the Suicide gimmick hoping he'd get that over, but only a miracle would have gotten that over on North American television. He had another good match with Kurt Angle at the last PPV - but he's still kind of bland. I think he'll be wrestling AJ Styles at the upcoming PPV so he's got another chance to prove himself. The Duke 07-06-2010, 12:50 AM I loved D'Lo Brown and when he was in the IC Belt chase he was perfect for it but should have gotten a bit more of a push. Gotta love the head swag... looks like Vince gives a rusty white man version of it these days. El Dandy 07-06-2010, 01:30 AM got some more - Christian: I know I already said him, but it just can't be stated enough. I mean, would it kill Christian to carry Hunter's bags for a little bit on the road so he'll get a main event opportunity thrown his way? ;) - Kidman: When he broke away from the Flock, he easily became one of their(WCW) best babyface undercard guys. WCW was apparantly gonna build him up by having him go into a US title program with Jeff Jarrett at SuperBrawl 2000 but Kevin Sullivan was let go in favor of Russo again. Then Russo just threw Kidman into the main event fire with that program with Hulk Hogan. Kidman wasn't ready, and it really set him back. In WWE he came in and again was over and the WWE didn't do much with him. Kidman then just really stopped caring (noticabl weight gain, careless in the ring). I was a Kidman makr from the first time I saw him do the 7 Year Itch and it's a shame he never did as much as he could have. - Rhyno: Came into the WWF and was an instant hit. They smartly got him into a group with Edge, Christian, and Kurt Angle (Team RECK) but once the Invasion happened he came into his own. Once the Invasion got going, he was really one of the first guys to break out. He was vicious and believable. came close to beating Rock for the WcW title a few times and the crowd dug it. He got injured, had a neck operation, and all the momentum he had went out the door. When he returned it was like the fans really forgot about him. They were gonna use him the right way, but once he got injured and returned they just said **** it. If he had not got injured and would have been pushed a little harder during 2001, he could have been the Invasion's breakout star next to RVD. I guess Rhyno is more of a "what if" instead of "misused", but I digress. - Goldberg: Work with me here. We all know about Bill and he had his success. He doesn't fit the description of thread per say, but he was so totally misused. In 98, he was just as hot as Austin. It should have been the next big money making idea that WCW could have ridden for 3 years. But WCW botched it. What they did right was the streak. I always pulled for the heels as a kid (huge fan of Jericho/Raven in WCW), but even Goldberg mania got me. When he won the US title from Raven it felt like such a huge deal because well it was Goldberg, he had the streak, and it was a big deal. They put the US title on him at the right time (US title was very credible at that point) and he looked like he was gonna built the right way into the next big star. Now the bad. First, look at how they gave him the World title: 6 days notice that the match was gonna take place, on a Nitro, no build at all. That could have been the biggest match of the decade if they could have built Hogan V Goldberg for Starrcade 98. Have Hogan dodge him for 6 months, have Goldberg run the nWo gauntlet, and run up his streak. Instead they gave it away with no hype and for free (as a kid in attendance at the GA Dome that night I loved it, but what were they thinking?). Plus, they had just given Goldberg the US strap a month or 2 earlier, why would you give that to him and then just throw caution to the wind and give him the big one so soon? Okay, so let's allow the crappy booking of the title change and that missed opportunity (of building a HUGE Goldberg/Hogan Starrcade match) slide. One of the very worst things WCW ever did was end the streak. They ended his streak and took the title off of him about a year too soon. Yup, he should have had it for a year and become the most dominant guy in the business. Could have gone from face to heel/be a vicious tweener, add more of a violent aspect to his character to spice it up and could have done this all while having the belt and keeping the the *prestigious streak* alive. Have him run through all the top guys until eventually ending it at the next Starrcade or anytime after that point, but just as they rushed him getting the belt they rushed ending the streak. They took the belt off of him with a terrible cluster **** finish (not only Scott Hall but I think Disco Inferno also had a run in lol), then they just put the belt back on Hogan via the Fingerpoke of Doom (I was also in attendance and boy did that suck). Goldberg then becomes more of an upper midcard guy with forgotten crap programs with Scott Hall, Bam Bam (I like Bam Bam another guy you could add to this list), Sid, and others. WCW dropped the ball huge with Goldberg and misused his potential. Hawkguy 07-06-2010, 01:56 AM Goldberg: Work with me here. We all know about Bill and he had his success. He doesn't fit the description of thread per say, but he was so totally misused. In 98, he was just as hot as Austin. It should have been the next big money making idea that WCW could have ridden for 3 years. But WCW botched it. What they did right was the streak. I always pulled for the heels as a kid (huge fan of Jericho/Raven in WCW), but even Goldberg mania got me. When he won the US title from Raven it felt like such a huge deal because well it was Goldberg, he had the streak, and it was a big deal. They put the US title on him at the right time (US title was very credible at that point) and he looked like he was gonna built the right way into the next big star. Now the bad. First, look at how they gave him the World title: 6 days notice that the match was gonna take place, on a Nitro, no build at all. That could have been the biggest match of the decade if they could have built Hogan V Goldberg for Starrcade 98. Have Hogan dodge him for 6 months, have Goldberg run the nWo gauntlet, and run up his streak. Instead they gave it away with no hype and for free (as a kid in attendance at the GA Dome that night I loved it, but what were they thinking?). Plus, they had just given Goldberg the US strap a month or 2 earlier, why would you give that to him and then just throw caution to the wind and give him the big one so soon? Okay, so let's allow the crappy booking of the title change and that missed opportunity (of building a HUGE Goldberg/Hogan Starrcade match) slide. One of the very worst things WCW ever did was end the streak. They ended his streak and took the title off of him about a year too soon. Yup, he should have had it for a year and become the most dominant guy in the business. Could have gone from face to heel/be a vicious tweener, add more of a violent aspect to his character to spice it up and could have done this all while having the belt and keeping the the *prestigious streak* alive. Have him run through all the top guys until eventually ending it at the next Starrcade or anytime after that point, but just as they rushed him getting the belt they rushed ending the streak. They took the belt off of him with a terrible cluster **** finish (not only Scott Hall but I think Disco Inferno also had a run in lol), then they just put the belt back on Hogan via the Fingerpoke of Doom (I was also in attendance and boy did that suck). Goldberg then becomes more of an upper midcard guy with forgotten crap programs with Scott Hall, Bam Bam (I like Bam Bam another guy you could add to this list), Sid, and others. WCW dropped the ball huge with Goldberg and misused his potential. Apparently Goldberg didn't want to do much else. I listened to the Disco Inferno shoot interview the other day (who was on the booking team from about 1998-2001 - though most of his ideas were ignored or used for only lower card stuff). I forget the exact wording but Disco tried to get Goldberg to expand his character (and wrestling skills). Disco stated that Goldberg was new to the business and didn't really understand it well, and wouldn't really want to do a lot of stuff. So Goldberg's downfall may have been his own fault. At the same time, I agree with the stuff about the world title. He should have got that about 4-6 months later. KesselBuiltMyHotrod 07-06-2010, 02:00 AM I loved D'Lo Brown and when he was in the IC Belt chase he was perfect for it but should have gotten a bit more of a push. Gotta love the head swag... looks like Vince gives a rusty white man version of it these days. He had that Eurocontinental championship run, still had the European and was feuding for the IC title, and then he broke Droz's neck. Then he became a jobber. Hawkguy 07-06-2010, 02:13 AM One guy that hasn't been mentioned; Owen Hart. One of the all-time greats of the business. Rest in peace, Owen u5tNZ7P21IQ Morozov 07-06-2010, 03:35 AM And, by all accounts, he's happy where he is, and has never really wanted to be champ. Wasn't he booked to break Taker's streak, and shot it down? Most people who don't have a huge ego would be happy where he is, doesn't change what I'm saying. You don't think monster Kane deserved a couple of strong title runs? to each their own. les Habs 07-06-2010, 11:06 PM So one thing I was thinking the WWE could have done when Vince bought WCW was add someone new to the NWO. I mean Michaels was added, and even Booker. Still I think adding Goldberg woulda been kinda cool instead of Big Show and Booker (and even HBK). Fighting Saint 07-06-2010, 11:55 PM Colt Cabana in WWE London and Kendrick in WWE Vampiro in WCW Rick Martel in WWF Hackett 07-06-2010, 11:57 PM One guy that hasn't been mentioned; Owen Hart. One of the all-time greats of the business. Rest in peace, Owen u5tNZ7P21IQ look again on the first page Hawkguy 07-06-2010, 11:57 PM look again on the first page My bad. Good call. They should recognize that world title win. :) WalterSobchak 07-07-2010, 12:23 AM One guy that hasn't been mentioned; Owen Hart. One of the all-time greats of the business. Rest in peace, Owen but how was he misused? Maybe as the initial Blue Blazer run but afterwards he was used quite well and probably overused due to being Brets brother. Owen was a great wrestler but worse on the mic than Bret was and thats saying something. He played the heel perfectly for a lot of years. I couldn't say he was ever misused. Hawkguy 07-07-2010, 12:28 AM but how was he misused? Maybe as the initial Blue Blazer run but afterwards he was used quite well and probably overused due to being Brets brother. Owen was a great wrestler but worse on the mic than Bret was and thats saying something. He played the heel perfectly for a lot of years. I couldn't say he was ever misused. The fued with Bret was one of my favourites of all-time. Giving him the title for at say, Summerslam, could have extended that feud for another 6-months. I personally thought Owen was BETTER on the mic than Bret. Owen seemed like such a legit jackass. He did screw up from time to time, but if you listen to most promos - everyone screws up a lot more often than you think. KesselBuiltMyHotrod 07-07-2010, 01:58 AM Most people who don't have a huge ego would be happy where he is, doesn't change what I'm saying. You don't think monster Kane deserved a couple of strong title runs? to each their own. He could have done with a run, but if he didn't want to do it, you can't say he was misused. pelts35.com 07-07-2010, 08:03 AM Bam Bam Bigelow in WCW. Tazz in WWF. Terry Taylor was a great choice, too. CM Punk in TNA. Can't argue with Bam Bam and The Rooster (Taylor was such a good worker back in the day, he definitely didn't deserve the fate of putting a red stripe in his hair and walking like a rooster), but Taz just wasn't going to be a star in the WWE. It's one thing for a guy like Misterio to be successful being under 5'8", it's another for a guy like Taz who was more like 5'6" to be successful. He was great for ECW, but just didn't have the stature for the WWE. pelts35.com 07-07-2010, 08:07 AM Paul Roma was a dick. Everyone knew that and it's why all of his pushes stopped before they started. He didn't care about anyone but himself. There are plenty of stories of him sandbagging people and putting people down. He completely bullied Alex Wright at, I believe, Superbrawl V for WCW - such a dick move. Also, in the 4-Horsemen DVD he says that Ric Flair is jealous of him because he's the best looking guy in the world or some crap. I do admit, I used to dig the Young Stallions though I did like Jim Powers better. At the same time, I'm glad Roma never got over. What you say here is true. Roma was a complete dick and frankly all he had was a great drop kick. Like you, I also liked Jim Powers and thought he could have been a star. Morozov 07-07-2010, 07:00 PM He could have done with a run, but if he didn't want to do it, you can't say he was misused. sure I can. It's his job, if they told him that he is going to do it then he would have done it, or I guess guys spend their entire careers getting to do only what they want to do right? Ever since he lost his mask he has been misused because he never should have lost it. KesselBuiltMyHotrod 07-07-2010, 08:30 PM Yes, let's reward a model employee by putting him in an uncomfortable and unwanted position. That's the best way to use him. Morozov 07-07-2010, 09:33 PM How do you know he would have ended up feeling "uncomfortable" with the belt? oh wait you don't. Not wanting the belt doesn't exactly mean he wouldn't have enjoyed having it for awhile, Jericho doesn't "want" the belt either. If they had said to Kane look we think the best thing for the company and your character is to have a long title run, being the "model employee", do you doubt he would have done it? Again, if you don't think the monster Kane would have been better utilized by having at least one long title run then to each their own, if you think they made better use of him by taking his mask off then to each their own. To me, these things meant he has been misused, that's my opinion, this thread is basically all opinion, get the **** over it. Seabass 07-07-2010, 09:37 PM Can't argue with Bam Bam and The Rooster (Taylor was such a good worker back in the day, he definitely didn't deserve the fate of putting a red stripe in his hair and walking like a rooster), but Taz just wasn't going to be a star in the WWE. It's one thing for a guy like Misterio to be successful being under 5'8", it's another for a guy like Taz who was more like 5'6" to be successful. He was great for ECW, but just didn't have the stature for the WWE. See, I agree to a point, but I still think he could've looked strong in the midcard. The WWE weeded out his moveset something fierce. Hawkguy 07-07-2010, 09:42 PM How do you know he would have ended up feeling "uncomfortable" with the belt? oh wait you don't. Not wanting the belt doesn't exactly mean he wouldn't have enjoyed having it for awhile, Jericho doesn't "want" the belt either. If they had said to Kane look we think the best thing for the company and your character is to have a long title run, being the "model employee", do you doubt he would have done it? Again, if you don't think the monster Kane would have been better utilized by having at least one long title run then to each their own, if you think they made better use of him by taking his mask off then to each their own. To me, these things meant he has been misused, that's my opinion, this thread is basically all opinion, get the **** over it. I actually liked him losing his mask. He was a badass for awhile until he ended up losing. KesselBuiltMyHotrod 07-07-2010, 10:48 PM get the **** over it. lol where did that come from? I think too much TNA has given you an inferiority complex. Morozov 07-07-2010, 11:26 PM lol where did that come from? I think too much TNA has given you an inferiority complex. Follow what I said and move along Fish on The Sand 07-08-2010, 12:12 AM got some more - Christian: I know I already said him, but it just can't be stated enough. I mean, would it kill Christian to carry Hunter's bags for a little bit on the road so he'll get a main event opportunity thrown his way? ;) - Kidman: When he broke away from the Flock, he easily became one of their(WCW) best babyface undercard guys. WCW was apparantly gonna build him up by having him go into a US title program with Jeff Jarrett at SuperBrawl 2000 but Kevin Sullivan was let go in favor of Russo again. Then Russo just threw Kidman into the main event fire with that program with Hulk Hogan. Kidman wasn't ready, and it really set him back. In WWE he came in and again was over and the WWE didn't do much with him. Kidman then just really stopped caring (noticabl weight gain, careless in the ring). I was a Kidman makr from the first time I saw him do the 7 Year Itch and it's a shame he never did as much as he could have. - Rhyno: Came into the WWF and was an instant hit. They smartly got him into a group with Edge, Christian, and Kurt Angle (Team RECK) but once the Invasion happened he came into his own. Once the Invasion got going, he was really one of the first guys to break out. He was vicious and believable. came close to beating Rock for the WcW title a few times and the crowd dug it. He got injured, had a neck operation, and all the momentum he had went out the door. When he returned it was like the fans really forgot about him. They were gonna use him the right way, but once he got injured and returned they just said **** it. If he had not got injured and would have been pushed a little harder during 2001, he could have been the Invasion's breakout star next to RVD. I guess Rhyno is more of a "what if" instead of "misused", but I digress. - Goldberg: Work with me here. We all know about Bill and he had his success. He doesn't fit the description of thread per say, but he was so totally misused. In 98, he was just as hot as Austin. It should have been the next big money making idea that WCW could have ridden for 3 years. But WCW botched it. What they did right was the streak. I always pulled for the heels as a kid (huge fan of Jericho/Raven in WCW), but even Goldberg mania got me. When he won the US title from Raven it felt like such a huge deal because well it was Goldberg, he had the streak, and it was a big deal. They put the US title on him at the right time (US title was very credible at that point) and he looked like he was gonna built the right way into the next big star. Now the bad. First, look at how they gave him the World title: 6 days notice that the match was gonna take place, on a Nitro, no build at all. That could have been the biggest match of the decade if they could have built Hogan V Goldberg for Starrcade 98. Have Hogan dodge him for 6 months, have Goldberg run the nWo gauntlet, and run up his streak. Instead they gave it away with no hype and for free (as a kid in attendance at the GA Dome that night I loved it, but what were they thinking?). Plus, they had just given Goldberg the US strap a month or 2 earlier, why would you give that to him and then just throw caution to the wind and give him the big one so soon? Okay, so let's allow the crappy booking of the title change and that missed opportunity (of building a HUGE Goldberg/Hogan Starrcade match) slide. One of the very worst things WCW ever did was end the streak. They ended his streak and took the title off of him about a year too soon. Yup, he should have had it for a year and become the most dominant guy in the business. Could have gone from face to heel/be a vicious tweener, add more of a violent aspect to his character to spice it up and could have done this all while having the belt and keeping the the *prestigious streak* alive. Have him run through all the top guys until eventually ending it at the next Starrcade or anytime after that point, but just as they rushed him getting the belt they rushed ending the streak. They took the belt off of him with a terrible cluster **** finish (not only Scott Hall but I think Disco Inferno also had a run in lol), then they just put the belt back on Hogan via the Fingerpoke of Doom (I was also in attendance and boy did that suck). Goldberg then becomes more of an upper midcard guy with forgotten crap programs with Scott Hall, Bam Bam (I like Bam Bam another guy you could add to this list), Sid, and others. WCW dropped the ball huge with Goldberg and misused his potential. Interesting points on Goldberg, and I agree with a lot. I do not agree with ending the streak too soon though. The streak had to end at starrcade, and to Nash. They built Nash up really well I thought, and Goldberg's streak had become a bore. Part of it was how they rushed through it like you said. He'd beaten everybody on the roster at that point and it became comical and they started embarassing guys like Hennig by having Goldberg squash them every week on Nitro. The finish to Nash/Goldberg was awful, I agree, but Goldberg's character became boring by then. To this day, I think the fingerpoke of doom was hilarious. Nobody saw it coming and they still talk about it. Its one of the most talked about moments of WCW history. People don't like it because they were genuinely tricked I think. Ultimately Goldberg wasn't misused though. He wasn't built for a long title run. he had awful mic skills, no charisma and worst of all no in ring ability. All his matches had to be squashes because he couldn't wrestle worth ****. All he could do was flex and yell "your next". pelts35.com 07-08-2010, 09:11 AM Another that comes to mind was Justin Credible who's Aldo Montoya gimmick was mediocre at best. Ozz 07-08-2010, 09:55 AM Another that comes to mind was Justin Credible who's Aldo Montoya gimmick was mediocre at best. It sucked at best :laugh: His nickname referenced a jellyfish. That wasn't even as cool as John Tenta (Earthquake) as "Shark" in WCW, which was completely stupid to begin with. WalterSobchak 07-08-2010, 01:46 PM It sucked at best :laugh: His nickname referenced a jellyfish. That wasn't even as cool as John Tenta (Earthquake) as "Shark" in WCW, which was completely stupid to begin with. ok, one dude wore a jockstrap on his head and a gaudy outfit, the other teeth painted on his face. 40lGayOOyTI cYh_XJtCv_Q ok, why am I defending either of them? BraveSirRobin 07-19-2010, 02:03 AM That video reminded me about Hakushi. I always felt he was terribly misused, if I recall correctly he basically jobbed to a number of wrestlers (Barry Horowitz being one I remember fairly vividly) he was clearly superior to, talent wise. You can actually name a few Japanese wrestlers in the WWE that were misused that way and should have been much bigger than they were. I thought Paul Burchill was going to be pretty big, then they stuck him with that pirate gimmick... Gail Kim is probably one of the more solid technical female wrestlers, but she's frequently pushed to the background in favor of others who aren't nearly as talented as her. pelts35.com 07-22-2010, 07:25 AM I can't believe I forgot about Hector Guerrero's "Lazer Tron" character. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_PfgzU7BLxIg/SCcYfa9w7iI/AAAAAAAAFVI/ES0Vaui01-U/s400/9+-+Lazertron+-+Hector+Guerrero.jpg Hawkguy 07-22-2010, 07:30 AM ok, one dude wore a jockstrap on his head and a gaudy outfit, the other teeth painted on his face. cYh_XJtCv_Q ok, why am I defending either of them? I used to be a huge fan of the Portuguese Man'O'War. :D SheamusFan 07-30-2010, 09:53 PM -0kZE1MCekc how could we forget everyone's favourite superhero? SheamusFan 07-31-2010, 07:50 PM IZWfyyUvgFw FrozenKing18 08-01-2010, 01:27 AM London and Kendrick The Hurricane and Rosey(Hamburgular and Grimace) Shelton Benjamin I liked the Kid Kash and Jamie Noble team. | ||