Bye Bye Tikhonov...

MOGiLNY
05-26-2004, 04:05 PM
Apparently they announced today that Tikhonov will not coach team Russia at the world cup..

wilka91*
05-26-2004, 07:39 PM
Apparently they announced today that Tikhonov will not coach team Russia at the world cup..

Actually Tikhonov said it himself ... but he didn't say he was "out", he just said that the federation assigned him to an "off the ice" coaching job, that he would be reposnsible for the team's "general strategy" (what the hell????). Well, these are just words, and it's obvious he's not on the coaching staff.

Anyway it's almost certain that Yurzinov will get the job, and it will be announced on Friday.

MOGiLNY
05-26-2004, 08:23 PM
Russian officials finally managed to come up with a decision regarding 74 year old coach Viktor Tikhonov. Apparently president of Russian hockey federation Mr. Steblin needed a push from outside of his organization which he received from president of the Russian Olympic Committee Mr. Tyagachev. Tyagachev and Steblin had a meeting with Tikhonov.

The result of the meeting was the decision that team Russia will have a new head coach for the World Cup. In the next few days Mr. Steblin will announce the name of this person. When asked if he could announce the name of this person today Mr. Steblin said this was not possible yet.



I got this from rushockey.com

wilka91*
05-27-2004, 09:50 AM
what you posted is from the same article

EDIT : my post was a bit confusing. When I said "Tikhonov said it himself" I meant that the decision was made by the federation BUT Tikhonov made it public

helicecopter
05-27-2004, 10:57 AM
Anyway it's almost certain that Yurzinov will get the job, and it will be announced on Friday.

I hope this is true! ;)

and also i hope Tikhonov won't have any decisive and influent role on the team!

wilka91*
05-27-2004, 02:48 PM
He won't.
That's the only not-stupid decision Steblin has made!

MOGiLNY
05-27-2004, 03:21 PM
I'd like Larionov to take over the team. He strikes me as a real intelligent person, and someone who is undoubtly respected both in North America and back home, so the players would listen.

SIBIR
05-27-2004, 05:30 PM
I'd like Larionov to take over the team. He strikes me as a real intelligent person, and someone who is undoubtly respected both in North America and back home, so the players would listen.

he is maybe respected in north america, but not in russia ... believe me

wilka91*
05-27-2004, 06:45 PM
Larionov is highly respected in Russia, believe me. Maybe not well respected in the Russian Federation, but it will change soon. In the years to come Slava Fetisov, Larionov and Kasatonov will take over the RHF.

SIBIR
05-27-2004, 06:52 PM
Larionov is highly respected in Russia, believe me. Maybe not well respected in the Russian Federation, but it will change soon. In the years to come Slava Fetisov, Larionov and Kasatonov will take over the RHF.

i don't speak about the federation.

Fetisov and Larionov will never be respected by the russian hockey fans (and that's correct IMO) ... but the problem is, nobody cares about the fans.

Markov
05-28-2004, 06:05 AM
Why are Fetisov and Larionov not respected by the fans?

wilka91*
05-28-2004, 06:44 AM
i don't speak about the federation.

Fetisov and Larionov will never be respected by the russian hockey fans (and that's correct IMO) ... but the problem is, nobody cares about the fans.

What the **** are you talking about?

This is bull-****.

Or tell me why you think so.

CSKA
05-28-2004, 11:07 AM
What the **** are you talking about?

This is bull-****.

Or tell me why you think so.


wilka coll down man !

Tschö takoi nerwni ? Tebe blja nefega pisat nelsja ...Bcö plocho. My sdes Bce russkie, nasch forum. Na Canadzaw najeschai a ne nanas !

wilka91*
05-28-2004, 12:56 PM
Da net no prosto s chevo ty vzyal chto v Rossiye nelyubat Fetisova i Larionova? Ty byval na Russkich forumach? Oni tam chut li ni molyatsya chtoby Larionov ili Fetisov stal trenerom sbornoj!

CSKA
05-28-2004, 01:17 PM
Da net no prosto s chevo ty vzyal chto v Rossiye nelyubat Fetisova i Larionova? Ty byval na Russkich forumach? Oni tam chut li ni molyatsya chtoby Larionov ili Fetisov stal trenerom sbornoj!


Da bywal na russkich forumach i snaju schto lybjat Fetisova i Larika tosche ! Prosto hotel skasjat schto u drugich tosche Mnenije jest ...... nu drugie schto teper :)

PS : ja nekogda negoworil schto Larika i Fetisova ne luibjat

SIBIR
05-28-2004, 02:10 PM
a za sto Fetisa i Larika ljubit?

Za to sto oni iza kardona polivali vsech grjaziu?!

Fetis vsegda vse lutsche vsech znaet, on znaet vsegda kto vinovat, i eto ochen prosto: vse krome nego.
Naprimer do Ol2002 Fetis oral, ja vsju otvetstvennost beru na sebja! Posle Ol2002 on krichal, nas sasudili, ja ne vinovat!

Larik predlogaet v serjoz innastranogo trenera v sbornuju! Eto zhe plevok v lizo vsem russkim Fanatam! Ja uveren sto Larik ne hotel pljuvat v lizo immeno Fanatam, a mozhet byt Federazij ili chert znaet komu ... no takimi vyhodkami on gadit vsem.

Fetis i Larik ljudi kotorye dumaet tolko o sebe. im vse po barabanu.

a nachet forumov, posmotrite pozhalusta ne nhl.ru , a pravda russkie forumy i gostevye knigi russkich klubov.

SIBIR
05-28-2004, 02:11 PM
Da net no prosto s chevo ty vzyal chto v Rossiye nelyubat Fetisova i Larionova? Ty byval na Russkich forumach? Oni tam chut li ni molyatsya chtoby Larionov ili Fetisov stal trenerom sbornoj!

ljuboj kto v hockeje hot sto-to ponimaet, ponimaet sto Fetisov kak trener nechego ne ponimaet.

MOGiLNY
05-28-2004, 03:06 PM
Esli by my vzyali inostrannogo trenera i on vyigral World Cup, ya ne dumau chto eti Russkia fanata ochen' rasstroilis' by..

SIBIR
05-28-2004, 03:12 PM
Esli by my vzyali inostrannogo trenera i on vyigral World Cup, ya ne dumau chto eti Russkia fanata ochen' rasstroilis' by..

u nas svoja shkola s velikoj tradizijei. kakie k chertu inostranzy? Dlja NHL eto konechno bylo by ne ploho, bolshe kommerzi dlja World Cup eto jasno. no nam to zachem eto??? Ty hochesh skazat u nas trenerov net, dostojnych sbornoj?

u nas est bolshe trenerov dostoinych sbornoj, chem igrokov!

MOGiLNY
05-28-2004, 03:34 PM
Net u nas ni kakikh trenerov, poetomu my i proigryvaem vsyo podryad. Mne sovershenno naplevat' kto stoit za skameykoy esli igraut Rossiyskiy gimn posle final'nogo matcha.

SIBIR
05-28-2004, 04:09 PM
Net u nas ni kakikh trenerov, poetomu my i proigryvaem vsyo podryad. Mne sovershenno naplevat' kto stoit za skameykoy esli igraut Rossiyskiy gimn posle final'nogo matcha.

ja kak raz po drugomu dumaju. trenery u nas est, da igrokov ne hvataet. ne po klassu, a po sile woli i hoteniu igrat za Rossiju

MOGiLNY
05-28-2004, 04:33 PM
A ya dumau chto igrokov u nas khvataet.

Prosto Steblin delaet vse usloviya dlya zbornoy chtoby tam vsem bylo plokho, tak vot nikto i ne khochet staratsya. V NHL vse eti "bezvol'nye" igroki begaut bud' zdorov.

helicecopter
05-28-2004, 07:41 PM
Wow, very interesting!
Wasn't this board supposed to speak English like the others?
:dunno:

MOGiLNY
05-28-2004, 10:17 PM
we were just saying how everyone is inferior to the mighty Russia

CSKA
05-29-2004, 02:35 AM
Da Rebjata ! TRENERI JEST !!! Last 3 years : U20 Camps 2x , U18 1x ! IGRAKOV NETU ! Pravdo SIBIR goworit ! POKA netu POKA ! Molodie usche begyt ! Tolko BREMJA NADO ! :teach:

SIBIR
05-29-2004, 04:09 AM
A ya dumau chto igrokov u nas khvataet.

Prosto Steblin delaet vse usloviya dlya zbornoy chtoby tam vsem bylo plokho, tak vot nikto i ne khochet staratsya. V NHL vse eti "bezvol'nye" igroki begaut bud' zdorov.

ty ne putaj NHL i sbornuju ... v NHL tebe limony za eto "beganie" dajut a v sbornuju kukish ... vot tam na woli, na zhelanie igrajut. a etogo u nas kokras net! i trener tut nechego ne smozhet sdelat.

paru primerov:

sbornaja Czechov na poslednem WC. oni bilis kak wolki ... plakali kogda proigrali Amerikosam .. plakali na ldu!!! ja na meste czechov gordlisja by etoj kommandoj! ty kogda nibut ot russkich tokogo videl????? tolko mozhet sto v U20, U18 ...

sbornaja USA na poslednem WC .... v Amerike eto WC vsem po koleno, eto vse znajut ... tak eti rebjata vseravno poehali, igrat za sbornuju, prosto sto by zachetit chest svojei strany ... i bilis oni kak mogli ... izvini no ja ne mogu sebe predstavit sto Fedorov, Bure, Mogilny, Gonchar, Samsonov i mnogie drugie kogda nibut na takoe poidut i vo glave etoj "bandy" stojat Fetis i Larik, oni kokras gotovy zachichat interesy vot etoj gruppy, s etim ja ne sporju ... im eto vse po kolenu

odna nadezhda kak skazal CSKA eto molodezh ... nadejus sto Kovalchuk i co. nachet sbornoj po drugomu dumajut .. no eto tolko vremeja pokazhet.

SIBIR
05-29-2004, 04:12 AM
Wow, very interesting!
Wasn't this board supposed to speak English like the others?
:dunno:

never heard about it.

the most of the readers here are russian speakers.

sorry but my english is not so good. i couldn't impress my opinion in english. exactly enough

SIBIR
05-29-2004, 04:17 AM
we were just saying how everyone is inferior to the mighty Russia

nobody is saying that.

MOGiLNY
05-29-2004, 05:14 AM
nobody is saying that.

I was joking..

MOGiLNY
05-29-2004, 05:21 AM
ty ne putaj NHL i sbornuju ... v NHL tebe limony za eto "beganie" dajut a v sbornuju kukish ... vot tam na woli, na zhelanie igrajut. a etogo u nas kokras net! i trener tut nechego ne smozhet sdelat.

eto ne vazhno skolko limonov Fedorov poluchaet v NHL, glavnoe chto on mozhet bitsya do posledney kapli krovi i chto on mozhet vest komandu za saboy. Fedorov tolko primer, eto zhe otnositsya i k lyudyam kak Gonchar..

ya ne znau pochemu ty govorish o Samosonove, u nego sploshnye travmy, i ya voobshe neznau skolko raz on za nas vystupal..

paru primerov:

sbornaja Czechov na poslednem WC. oni bilis kak wolki ... plakali kogda proigrali Amerikosam .. plakali na ldu!!! ja na meste czechov gordlisja by etoj kommandoj! ty kogda nibut ot russkich tokogo videl????? tolko mozhet sto v U20, U18 ...

sbornaja USA na poslednem WC .... v Amerike eto WC vsem po koleno, eto vse znajut ... tak eti rebjata vseravno poehali, igrat za sbornuju, prosto sto by zachetit chest svojei strany ... i bilis oni kak mogli ... izvini no ja ne mogu sebe predstavit sto Fedorov, Bure, Mogilny, Gonchar, Samsonov i mnogie drugie kogda nibut na takoe poidut i vo glave etoj "bandy" stojat Fetis i Larik, oni kokras gotovy zachichat interesy vot etoj gruppy, s etim ja ne sporju ... im eto vse po kolenu

u Amerikantsev i Kanadtsev mezhdu prochem, tozhe mnogie igroki otkazalis' ekhat' igrat', prosto ob etom ne podnimaut takoy shum kak v Rossii..

a esli khochesh znat' kogda nashi bilis', pomoymu eto byl 2002 WC kogda my vzyali serebro.. na olimpiade my v 3em periode protev USA tozhe bilis' zhutko.. mne samomu plakat' zakhotelos'..

odna nadezhda kak skazal CSKA eto molodezh ... nadejus sto Kovalchuk i co. nachet sbornoj po drugomu dumajut .. no eto tolko vremeja pokazhet.

da molodezh nasha nadezhda, no ya ochen' boyus chto shas Steblin pereportit otnosheniya so vsemi molodymi igrokami i cherez neskolko let oni perestanut igrat za sbornuju..

SIBIR
05-29-2004, 10:30 AM
da, eto ne vazhno skolko limonov Fedorov poluchaet, vazhno sto on TOLKO za limony bitsja mozhet.

Samsonov i paru drugich vystupajut za Rossiju tolko togda kogda eto im vygodno. naprimer Olympiada ... eto ochen horoshaja reklama, sebja tam ne pokazat eto tolko idiot ne zahochet.

Vot tam oni i bjutsja opjat taki za limony ... a ne za Rossjiu.

a kak preglashenie na WC ... tak travmy muchajut, dochku uzhe nedelju ne videl, ustal, i tak dalee. vot tut i pokazyvaetsja kogo nado vsegda preglashat. ne poehal na WC, tak i ne poedesh na Olympiadu i World Cup.

na World Cup nekto ne otkazhestja ... vot uvidesh. tam i plevat na travmy, dochku, i na ustalost i tak dalee...

U Kanadzev ne vse edut na WC, eto da, im eto i ne nado, oni i tak vsech porvut.

U Finnov, Shwedov, Czechov, Slovakov vse edut ... redkie iskluchenia est. Eti rebjata naverno ne ustajut, i travm i semej, kotorie oni ne vidjat, u nich net stoli?

Na Wc2002 ne Samsonik, ne Gonchar i drugie tipa nego ne igrali, kak eto voobche? na WC ?? tam NHLovzev malo bylo, tolko paru molodych, oni bilis da. Molodzy.

No eto tolko pokazyvaet sto ja hochu skazat, tech kto za sbornuju bitsja mogut malo! a zvezdy nashie, mozhet tolko krome Yashina, Kovalchuka i echo paru, plevali na sbornuju i gotovy bitsja tolko togda kogda im eto vygodno, vot togda i vse orut: Ja patriot, eto ochen bolshaja chest dlja menja! ...

SIBIR
05-29-2004, 10:31 AM
to sto Steblin mnogo derma sozdaet eto ja ne otrizaju, no on ne edinstvennaj problema.

ne nado iskat kozla otpuchenia v odnom cheloveke! etich kozlov ochen mnogo :joker:

Slick Nick
05-29-2004, 11:37 AM
a esli khochesh znat' kogda nashi bilis', pomoymu eto byl 2002 WC kogda my vzyali serebro...

V 2002 na WC, Mikhailov treneroval komandu, i s uspehom dobralis do finala. Sudja po Gazeta.ru, on hotel vernutsja kak trenerom sbornoj:

Известно, что Борис Михайлов был готов вернуться в сборную, но при одном условии. Если лидеры трех ведомств – Александр Стеблин (ФХР), Леонид Тягачев (ОКР) и Вячеслав Фетисов (экс-Госкомспорт) – соберут совместную пресс-конференцию и прилюдно принесут ему извинения за то, что Михайлов был отстранен от управления сборной России на Олимпиаде-2002 в Солт-Лейк-Сити.

A voobshe dumaju shto sbornaja vystupala normalno na Olympiade i na U20, a chimpoinaty mira po huju, bessmyslenii turnir.