What's the greatest sports team of all time?

Of all sports and of all time, which team/club do think has been the overall greatest? I know it might sound silly and hard to compare teams in different sports, but do it anyway. I'm deeply sorry if the poll doesn't have the team of your choice, but please don't get mad about it.

Feel free to let your nationalism, irrationality, etc. get in the way of your decision, but at least try to be somewhat objective. Also, DO NOT CONSIDER STATES' TEAMS. Only consider non-political teams in actual leagues.

Also, for the sake of the poll (and for the discussion, unless you disagree) any team's name represents that current team along with all previous incarnations of it. For example, the L.A. Lakers were once the Minnesota Lakers. The option "L.A. Lakers" represents all the seasons of both.

I chose the Yankees. There has not been an extended period of time that they weren't very good.

that's definetly a tuff question... i voted for the Yankees. The Canadians were also pretty phenomenal back in the day. Actually all of the teams listed were at one point or another at the top of their sports/leagues. The Yankees have been a top baseball team for a long time now so they get my vote.

20 years ago, it was the Habs, hands down.

However, the Yankees have proven to be the only franchise to have consistent success, even in the age of the globalization of sports and an age in which leagues are trying to create a sense of parity.

I would have to say the New York Yankees with my beloved Habs a close second. I'm shocked that AC Milan and Juventus (Serie A Italian Soccer) is not on the list. Both teams have some rich history in the game of soccer and have had an impact on European soocer and some of the world's greatest players.

tb devil rays.

Real Madrid of the 50s.

Other than that, Brazil 70 is not too shabby.

I'd also add for the sake of it "Les Mousquetaires", davis cup team of the beginning of the century.

26 World Championships

39 American League Pennants :clap: :win: :razz: :cheers: :thumbu:

Do college teams count? (Michigan football, Notre Dame football, etc.)

I voted yankees, you just cant beat their success.

glasgow celtic :yo:

39 league titels (9 in a row '66- '74)
32 Fa-Cups
12 League Cups
1 European Cup

The Cleveland Indians.

Yankees in a landslide

Ruth,Gehrig,Dimaggio,Mantle,Berra,Ford,Munson,Jack son,Guidry,Mattingly,Jeter,
Pettite[damn shame he couldnt retire in pinstripes],Rivera


not many teams have that wealth of history/championships/players

Yankees in a landslide

Ruth,Gehrig,Dimaggio,Mantle,Berra,Ford,Munson,Jack son,Guidry,Mattingly,Jeter,
Pettite[damn shame he couldnt retire in pinstripes],Rivera


not many teams have that wealth of history/championships/players
Montreal...

Howie Morenz
Jean Beliveau
Maurice Richard
George Hainsworth
Bill Durnan
Toe Blake
Boom-Boom Geoffrion
Elmer Lach
Doug Harvey
Dickie Moore
Sheldon Souray
Jacques Plante
Henri Richard
Gump Worsley
Yvan Cournoyer
Ken Dryden
Guy Lafleur
Steve Shutt
Larry Robinson
Jacques Lemaire

... Montreal has quite a few greats as well.

And they have something like 24 Cups.

Montreal...

Howie Morenz
Jean Beliveau
Maurice Richard
George Hainsworth
Bill Durnan
Toe Blake
Boom-Boom Geoffrion
Elmer Lach
Doug Harvey
Dickie Moore
Sheldon Souray
Jacques Plante
Henri Richard
Gump Worsley
Yvan Cournoyer
Ken Dryden
Guy Lafleur
Steve Shutt
Larry Robinson
Jacques Lemaire

... Montreal has quite a few greats as well.

And they have something like 24 Cups.

Very true...my bad in not mentioning them as well

this poll should just be a 2 team poll
Habs vs Yankees

Do college teams count? (Michigan football, Notre Dame football, etc.)


I suppose they would...


whoever listed the Montreal guys, you forgot Patrick Roy, Guy Carbonneau, Denis Savard, Frank Mahovlich...

I suppose they would...


whoever listed the Montreal guys, you forgot Patrick Roy, Guy Carbonneau, Denis Savard, Frank Mahovlich...
I had Mahovlich, but he spent most of his career in Toronto.

I forgot the others.

Yankees. Montreal played a long time in a six-team league. Considering the scarcity of competition in the old-time NHL, it wasn't nearly as hard to win multiple championships as it was in baseball.

Yankees. Montreal played a long time in a six-team league. Considering the scarcity of competition in the old-time NHL, it wasn't nearly as hard to win multiple championships as it was in baseball.
One could argue that with economic disparity, the yankees ar ein a single team league.

KMAd, sorry to say this but your poll is totally of base as far as the football sides are concerned!

The greatest team/Franchise in English history is none other than Liverpool FC, winning 18 league titles, 4 European Cups, 3 UEFA cups, 6 FA Cups and a bag full of other trophies. Yes they have sucked badly over the last decade or so but Arsenal and Man Utd are still not even close to achieving what Liverpool has.


Real Madrid is obviously a very legit choice as far as Football teams are concerned, yet Glasgow Celtic (I'm a big fan) is another unwarranted choice, the Celts have only won one single European Cup in their history.

If you're going to list 4 football teams I would suggest the following:

1. Real Madrid
2. Juventus FC
3. Bayern Munchen FC
4. AC Milan

Thansk for listening to my rant but I get irritated when people don't know their history :)

The Montreal Canadiens no doubt ! they've won 24 cups :D but the yankees are the second in my books

yanks get my vote -- for all their stats mentioned plus all these league mvps

1923 Babe Ruth
1927 Lou Gehrig
1936 Lou Gehrig
1939 Joe DiMaggio
1941 Joe DiMaggio
1942 Joe Gordon
1943 Spud Chandler
1947 Joe DiMaggio
1950 Phil Rizzuto
1951 Yogi Berra
1954 Yogi Berra
1955 Yogi Berra
1956 Mickey Mantle
1957 Mickey Mantle
1960 Roger Maris
1961 Roger Maris
1962 Mickey Mantle
1963 Elston Howard
1976 Thurman Munson
1985 Don Mattingly

There is the NY Yankees, and then there are "all others."

That having been said, I'm shocked that the Celtics only got 1 vote thus far.

Yankees in a landslide

Ruth,Gehrig,Dimaggio,Mantle,Berra,Ford,Munson,Jack son,Guidry,Mattingly,Jeter,
Pettite[damn shame he couldnt retire in pinstripes],Rivera


not many teams have that wealth of history/championships/players
A team of just alltime Yankees is just as good as any MLB alltime team.

Shoot. A reasonable case can be made that Berra, Gehrig, Ruth, Mantle, and Dimaggio are the greatest ever at their positions. And thats before A Rod even gets a chance to play out his career there.

There is the NY Yankees, and then there are "all others."

That having been said, I'm shocked that the Celtics only got 1 vote thus far.
Why so? One of the weakest league in the world. And not even winner most of the time lately.

I chose the Yankees. There has not been an extended period of time that they weren't very good.


How about the 80's? A full decade without winning the championships is a long time to go if you want to call them the best franchise in the world.

Why so? One of the weakest league in the world. And not even winner most of the time lately.
Because they had a 30 year dynasty.

That having been said, I'm shocked that the Celtics only got 1 vote thus far.

The Celtics are arguably no longer even the greatest team in NBA history, so it shouldn't be at all shocking.

Do college teams count? (Michigan football, Notre Dame football, etc.)

U of M wouldn't; their 1997 national championship was their first in 50 years, they always field competitive teams, but they're aren't perennial contenders.

Sadly. my vote goes for the Yankees, with Montreal a close second. Soccer I don't follow and don't care.

I voted for the Bull. Though they suck now, I don't think any other sports team was as closely followed in the world media than the mid-to-late 90's Bulls with Michael Jordan.

Because they had a 30 year dynasty.
oops, I thought you meant Glasgow Celtic. Of course, the Celtics could have some votes....

I propose a ban be imposed on BrooklynCanuck. Him, his children, and his children's children. For 3 months.

26 World Championships

39 American League Pennants

And a $183 million payroll(or whatever ridiculous amount its up to now) :shakehead

Montreal earned their championships
The Yankees bought their championships

Edge - Montreal

Montreal earned their championships
The Yankees bought their championships

Edge - Montreal

The Yankees are a successful franchise because they build winning teams, which as a result has given them the most loyal and largest fanbase of any sports team in America.....which as a result gives them more financial flexibility.

Don't hate because the Habs stopped learning how to be a dominant team once the league reached about 20 teams.

And a $183 million payroll(or whatever ridiculous amount its up to now) :shakehead
who cares. Mr Steinbrenner spends the money he makes on the team. He doesn't pocket the money. I hope the yankee payroll is 200 million buy the end of the year and 250 million at the start of next season. It would mean the team is improved. All the yankees care about it winning. There is nothing wrong with that additude.

Blah Blah Blah


Are you kidding? When you look at the recent yankee championship teams you see a team built from within.

Isn't it funny that owners who only care about making a profit and nothing else are respected more than owners who care about winning?

Isn't it funny that owners who only care about making a profit and nothing else are respected more than owners who care about winning?
Not necessarily. Donald Sterling of Clippers fame is only in it to make a profit...nobody gives him any respect.

I voted for the Bronx Bombers BTW.

26 World Championships

39 American League Pennants :clap: :win: :razz: :cheers: :thumbu:

You're right, but just remember there's a special section in Hell reserved for Yankee fans.

who cares. Mr Steinbrenner spends the money he makes on the team. He doesn't pocket the money. I hope the yankee payroll is 200 million buy the end of the year and 250 million at the start of next season. It would mean the team is improved. All the yankees care about it winning. There is nothing wrong with that additude.

Who cares? Anyone who isnt a Yankee$ fan cares. When you have 1 team with like 9 times the payroll of another, in the same sport, thats just wrong. Whenever the MLB CBA runs out, they need to seriously consider a salary cap...the 'luxury tax' they have in place now is a complete and utter joke. In what other sport can you trade a worthless Jeff Weaver for someone like Kevin Brown? Thats not a trade...thats essentially buying Brown, because no one else can pay his huge contract.

Who cares? Anyone who isnt a Yankee$ fan cares. When you have 1 team with like 9 times the payroll of another, in the same sport, thats just wrong. Whenever the MLB CBA runs out, they need to seriously consider a salary cap...the 'luxury tax' they have in place now is a complete and utter joke. In what other sport can you trade a worthless Jeff Weaver for someone like Kevin Brown? Thats not a trade...thats essentially buying Brown, because no one else can pay his huge contract.

Uhh...Anson Carter for Jaromir Jagr ring a bell?

A couple of points:

1. I voted for Montreal because I hate the Yankees. No other reason really.

2. An All-time Reds team could seriously compete with an all-time Yankees team (don't forget how good the Reds were in the 70s).

3. Steinbrenner is good for the Yankees, but bad for baseball.

4. I hate Steinbrenner, but I wish he owned the Reds.

Who cares? Anyone who isnt a Yankee$ fan cares. When you have 1 team with like 9 times the payroll of another, in the same sport, thats just wrong. Whenever the MLB CBA runs out, they need to seriously consider a salary cap...the 'luxury tax' they have in place now is a complete and utter joke. In what other sport can you trade a worthless Jeff Weaver for someone like Kevin Brown? Thats not a trade...thats essentially buying Brown, because no one else can pay his huge contract.
Why don't the owners complain when the get there luxary tax money from steinbrenner? Hmm i wonder why they also don't complain when the yankees come to town and sellout.

Why don't you also complain about the red sox? they have 130 million dollar payroll. is that right for baseball? You don't seem to understand something. The Yankees are all about winning and any cost. There is nothing wrong with that. They spend money to give the fans the best product on the field. I'm lucky enough to see an all star lineup everynight. (i just wish i was lucky enough to see an all star pitching staff)

Hey it takes two teams to make a trade. The Yankees didn't sign Brown to the huge contract. Change of scenary trades happen in every sport. How many fair value trades do you see in sports today? Is it fair to laker fans that there best player is in miami next season?

You right they need to change the luxary tax next time. There shouldn't be one. This is a free market society do you see wall mart giving money to k mart just because wal mart makes billions more? The Yankees were the only team in baseball to vote againts this CBA.

Sour grapes make sour whine.

A couple of points:

1. I voted for Montreal because I hate the Yankees. No other reason really.

2. An All-time Reds team could seriously compete with an all-time Yankees team (don't forget how good the Reds were in the 70s).

3. Steinbrenner is good for the Yankees, but bad for baseball.

4. I hate Steinbrenner, but I wish he owned the Reds.

c Yogi Berra
1b Lou Gerrig
2b Tony Lazzeri
ss Derek Jeter
3b G Nettles
of Babe Ruth
of Micky Mantle
of J Dimaggio

p. Whitey Ford
p Red Ruffing
p. Lefty Gomez
p. R Guidry
p. A Pettitte

closer mariano rivera

The Yankees B and C all time teams woud crush the Reds all time teams. I didn't even put a-rod at third. A guy by the name of Roger Maris isn't even on this team. Get the point. The Yankees are the greatest and most storied team in all of sports.

Why don't the owners complain when the get there luxary tax money from steinbrenner? Hmm i wonder why they also don't complain when the yankees come to town and sellout.

Why don't you also complain about the red sox? they have 130 million dollar payroll. is that right for baseball? You don't seem to understand something. The Yankees are all about winning and any cost. There is nothing wrong with that. They spend money to give the fans the best product on the field. I'm lucky enough to see an all star lineup everynight. (i just wish i was lucky enough to see an all star pitching staff)

Hey it takes two teams to make a trade. The Yankees didn't sign Brown to the huge contract. Change of scenary trades happen in every sport. How many fair value trades do you see in sports today? Is it fair to laker fans that there best player is in miami next season?

You right they need to change the luxary tax next time. There shouldn't be one. This is a free market society do you see wall mart giving money to k mart just because wal mart makes billions more? The Yankees were the only team in baseball to vote againts this CBA.

Sour grapes make sour whine.

The Red Sox 130 million payroll isnt very good for baseball either..I'll give you that. Dont bring the Shaq trade into this...at least LA is getting some useful players. And you are right...they should get rid of the luxury tax and institute a hard cap, like in the NFL...look there....you dont have 1 team that makes so much more $$ that anyone else going out and buying up any player they want.

The Red Sox 130 million payroll isnt very good for baseball either..I'll give you that. Dont bring the Shaq trade into this...at least LA is getting some useful players. And you are right...they should get rid of the luxury tax and institute a hard cap, like in the NFL...look there....you dont have 1 team that makes so much more $$ that anyone else going out and buying up any player they want.

you will never have a hard cap in baseball. Football can have a hard cap for two reasons no guaranteed contracts and TV money. Baseball will always have guaranteed contracts because of the players association. Baseball does not get nearly enough money from fox and ESPN that football does from Fox, CBS, and Disney.

The Yankees print money with the yes network why would the Yankees give they want to share that? The wouldn't and its a case they would easily win in court which is something in the past steinbrenner has threatened to do.

The Yankees don't buy up players. The didn't give Kevin brown his contract. They didn't give a-rod his contract. They aren't the only team to sign players. Its okay for the red sox angels cubs and all the other teams to sign free agents but not the Yankees? The Yankees play by the rules and pay dearly with the luxury tax.

I can bring the Shaq trade up because at no time have the Yankees traded nothing for the players they acquired.

This is pure jealousy on your part. If the Yankees were your hometown team you wouldn't be complaining about how unfair it is. They aren't spending money they don't have. Any team can do what the Yankees do.

What's worse an owner that will do anything to win or an owner who pockets the luxury tax money? (reds,pirates,devil rays,)

It's amazing to me that Steinbrenner gets killed by jeaolous fans but nobody cares about the owners that won't spend to improve the team.

KMAd, sorry to say this but your poll is totally of base as far as the football sides are concerned!

The greatest team/Franchise in English history is none other than Liverpool FC, winning 18 league titles, 4 European Cups, 3 UEFA cups, 6 FA Cups and a bag full of other trophies. Yes they have sucked badly over the last decade or so but Arsenal and Man Utd are still not even close to achieving what Liverpool has.


Real Madrid is obviously a very legit choice as far as Football teams are concerned, yet Glasgow Celtic (I'm a big fan) is another unwarranted choice, the Celts have only won one single European Cup in their history.

If you're going to list 4 football teams I would suggest the following:

1. Real Madrid
2. Juventus FC
3. Bayern Munchen FC
4. AC Milan

Thansk for listening to my rant but I get irritated when people don't know their history :)

Well, I'd personally take Milan over Bayern, and feel Ajax are more or less on par with them in terms of succes, but have afaik more fans wordwide as well as being famous for their playing styles. Some other teams I might choose as well; still it is more the idea that counts here. I'd say there is a fairly significant number of teams to be taken over Celtic...

Well, I'd personally take Milan over Bayern, and feel Ajax are more or less on par with them in terms of succes, but have afaik more fans wordwide as well as being famous for their playing styles. Some other teams I might choose as well; still it is more the idea that counts here. I'd say there is a fairly significant number of teams to be taken over Celtic...

When BF sees the chance then he won't include any Dutch flavour in his lists. :)

When BF sees the chance then he won't include any Dutch flavour in his lists. :)

Hehe, Ajax was close for me but I can't help but hold it against them that the Dutch league is a bit less in stature than the Italian/Spanish/German or even English league.

I think they would be in my top 5 or six though (I can't choose between Ajax and Liverpool)

You're right, but just remember there's a special section in Hell reserved for Yankee fans.
I felt like this bore repeating. :)

you will never have a hard cap in baseball. Football can have a hard cap for two reasons no guaranteed contracts and TV money. Baseball will always have guaranteed contracts because of the players association. Baseball does not get nearly enough money from fox and ESPN that football does from Fox, CBS, and Disney.

The Yankees print money with the yes network why would the Yankees give they want to share that? The wouldn't and its a case they would easily win in court which is something in the past steinbrenner has threatened to do.

The Yankees don't buy up players. The didn't give Kevin brown his contract. They didn't give a-rod his contract. They aren't the only team to sign players. Its okay for the red sox angels cubs and all the other teams to sign free agents but not the Yankees? The Yankees play by the rules and pay dearly with the luxury tax.

I can bring the Shaq trade up because at no time have the Yankees traded nothing for the players they acquired.

This is pure jealousy on your part. If the Yankees were your hometown team you wouldn't be complaining about how unfair it is. They aren't spending money they don't have. Any team can do what the Yankees do.

What's worse an owner that will do anything to win or an owner who pockets the luxury tax money? (reds,pirates,devil rays,)

It's amazing to me that Steinbrenner gets killed by jeaolous fans but nobody cares about the owners that won't spend to improve the team.

Oh I know there wont ever be a hard cap...but that wont stop me from saying there should be. Sure they didnt give Brown his contract..but who else besides the Yankee$ and the Red Sox would be able to take it on? Same thing with A-Rod. SO your telling me trading Jeff Weaver for Kevin Brown is trading something? Weaver was beyond worthless in NY. And of course the classic jealousy argument. NO team can do what the Yankees do...you think Tampa could afford a $183 million payroll? Yes I also agree that the owners who pocket luxury tax money are among the worst people around, but that doesnt make an owner who has NINE times the payroll of another team any better. Just because someone doesnt see things through your pinstripe glasses doesnt automatically make them jealous.

I felt like this bore repeating. :)

Humph!!!

I may be a bore, but I do not belch.

Humph!!!

I may be a bore, but I do not belch.
Well, I didn't want to be the one to break it to you...

Yankees in a landslide

Ruth,Gehrig,Dimaggio,Mantle,Berra,Ford,Munson,Jack son,Guidry,Mattingly,Jeter,
Pettite[damn shame he couldnt retire in pinstripes],Rivera


not many teams have that wealth of history/championships/players
Costanza

Those who are baseball fans but despise the Yankees success, both in green and on the field, just remember: Having a world renowned team is good for the sport. Without the Yankees success translating to success for the overall league and more global exposure, baseball would be the distinct third sport in this country to basketball.

Those who are baseball fans but despise the Yankees success, both in green and on the field, just remember: Having a world renowned team is good for the sport. Without the Yankees success translating to success for the overall league and more global exposure, baseball would be the distinct third sport in this country to basketball.

In my own personal book, they're tied behind football as it is. Baseball is only now beginning to really recover from the last strike.

In my own personal book, they're tied behind football as it is. Baseball is only now beginning to really recover from the last strike.
i guess baseball ratings last season don't mean anything to you? baseball started to recover during the way overhyped mcgwire sosa hr chase of 98. baseball is clearly more popular than basketball right now.

In my own personal book, they're tied behind football as it is. Baseball is only now beginning to really recover from the last strike.

Well, baseball will never recover in the forseeable future to what it once was in the 80s and before, but it has recovered since the strike. MLB ratings still dwarf NBA ratings for the most part.

Why so? One of the weakest league in the world. And not even winner most of the time lately.

Are you calling the NBA one of the weakest leagues on the world? Or id you confuse Celtic with the Boston Celtics?

Are you calling the NBA one of the weakest leagues on the world? Or id you confuse Celtic with the Boston Celtics?

oops, I thought you meant Glasgow Celtic. Of course, the Celtics could have some votes....
;)

;)

Oops, I guess I made mistake as well by missing your response.

glasgow celtic :yo:

39 league titels (9 in a row '66- '74)
32 Fa-Cups
12 League Cups
1 European Cup




God Bless Celtic!





Rangers suck.

Oops, I guess I made mistake as well by missing your response.
;)

c Yogi Berra
1b Lou Gerrig
2b Tony Lazzeri
ss Derek Jeter
3b G Nettles
of Babe Ruth
of Micky Mantle
of J Dimaggio

p. Whitey Ford
p Red Ruffing
p. Lefty Gomez
p. R Guidry
p. A Pettitte

closer mariano rivera

The Yankees B and C all time teams woud crush the Reds all time teams. I didn't even put a-rod at third. A guy by the name of Roger Maris isn't even on this team. Get the point. The Yankees are the greatest and most storied team in all of sports.

Canadiens. Nowadays the Yanks just buy the championship. What's wrong with that? well other owners dont have the bloody $$$$$$ to match their payroll. IT"S NOT BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT TO WIN FOR CHRIST SAKES!!! all i hear about is how "steinbrenner just wants to win" is complete bull. Other teams want to win, they just cant because the game is corrupted and the yanks are taking advantage. although we usually get about one fluke team a year that comes along, but that really doesnt mean anything, especially not that the economics of the game work.

The Yanks are a joke. a $200 million payroll is absolute lunacy. They should be able to go 182 - 0 with that kind of money.

The Yankees are a successful franchise because they build winning teams, which as a result has given them the most loyal and largest fanbase of any sports team in America.....which as a result gives them more financial flexibility.

Don't hate because the Habs stopped learning how to be a dominant team once the league reached about 20 teams.

I think your thinking is slightly flawed in comparing the Yankees and Habs. Firstly, there is no doubt that the Yankees have the largest and possibly the loyalists fans in baseball, even though the Cubs and Red Sox fans can argue they are, how can you have so many fans after so many years of losing? Anyways, can you please tell me how the Yankees "Built" their current team? Simply, they didn't. They have the largest payroll, and they "Bought" their team. The Habs not only have no where near the T.V revenues that the Yankees do, they also pay their players in US dollars, while the revenue is Canadian dollars. The Habs are also taxed very high, so saying they stopped learning how to compete when the league went to 20 teams is stupid. Even with the MLB luxury taxes, you just can't compare the two Organizations, there are way too many variables to argue one or the other.
Oh, BTW how many cups have the Flyers won lately, even when they've been trying to buy the cup or did they stop learning how to be dominant when the league went to 30 teams?

Is the thread about the Flyers, or are you simply just trolling?

Is the thread about the Flyers, or are you simply just trolling?

I'm not trolling...you make a statement, back it up with some fact.

What about Barca!

I'm not trolling...you make a statement, back it up with some fact.

Only two Stanley Cups in the past 24 years.

Someting like that doesn't merit you as the greatest sports team of all-time.

When the Yankees go 3 years without a championship, they are considered to be in a slump....the Habs haven't been held to those standards in our lifetime.

Only two Stanley Cups in the past 24 years.


Don't forget the Yankees didn't win a championship from 1963-1976. And then from 1979-1995.

Only two Stanley Cups in the past 24 years.

Someting like that doesn't merit you as the greatest sports team of all-time.

When the Yankees go 3 years without a championship, they are considered to be in a slump....the Habs haven't been held to those standards in our lifetime.

Well, as you can see by this, the Yankees have also went a few years in their history without winning a championship:

New York Yankees AL 26 1923, '27, '28, '32, '36, '37, '38, '39, '41, '43, '47, '49, '50,
'51, '52, '53, '56, '58, '61, '62, '77, '78, '96, '98, '99, '00

Montreal Canadiens 1916, 1924, 1930-31, 1944, 1946, 1953, 1956-60, 1965-6, 1968-9, 1971, 1973, 1976-9, 1986, 1993.

As you can see, both organizations were very comparable when it came to Championship wins, until the late 90's when Steinbrenner started to spend lots of money. Since the 70's, the Yankees have won 6 times and the Habs 8 times. To say that the Habs haven't been held to those standards in our lifetime is untrue, unless your lifetime is 20 years. I give full marks to the Yankees owner, he has the money and spends it on his team to ensure they have a chance to win every year. My whole point in my original post was to say that you simply cannot compare the finances of both teams, there's too many variables. The Habs and Yankees are the greatest North American teams of all time, whether you wish to look at their complete history or not. ;)

c Yogi Berra
1b Lou Gerrig
2b Tony Lazzeri
ss Derek Jeter
3b G Nettles
of Babe Ruth
of Micky Mantle
of J Dimaggio

The Yankees B and C all time teams woud crush the Reds all time teams. I didn't even put a-rod at third. A guy by the name of Roger Maris isn't even on this team. Get the point. The Yankees are the greatest and most storied team in all of sports.

And if you include the DH then it wouldn't be even a contest. Imagine Ruth, Maris and Mickey hitting 3-4-5...and a Triple Crown winner batting 6th :)

ss Jeter
cf DiMaggio
dh Ruth
rf Maris
lf Mantle
1b Gehrig
c Berra
3b Nettles
2b Lazzeri

What about Barca!

What about :eek: ?

They have never dominated over several years.

God Bless Celtic!





Rangers suck.

:yo: :yo:

I'm not trolling....

um, actually...

What about :eek: ?

They have never dominated over several years.
And the Maple Leafs, Cards, Celtics have?

And the Maple Leafs, Cards, Celtics have?
Did I make this poll ?

And the Maple Leafs, Cards, Celtics have?

Celtics won 11 of 13 NBA Championships from the mid-fifties to late sixties.