Most disappointing MLB team at this point of the season.

Which of these teams has been most disappointing thus far this season?

The Montreal Expos !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a deception ,they had a good team at the start of the season they were project to have 85 wins and 77 loses but they are one of the worst team in MLB.

But I know why they have a terrible season because they have NO HOME and it's hard for a team to travel a lot they're getting tired and the other reason is that Vlad quit this team ,Vlad was the guy who had the most pression on him and he's a mature guy He didn't care of the pressure and he didn't wanted to lose.This season the pressure are on all the players and they didn't care if they lose or win so THIS TEAM IS ON A REBUILDING PROCESS NOW so they'll have many not good seasons again.

The Montreal Expos !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a deception ,they had a good team at the start of the season they were project to have 85 wins and 77 loses but they are one of the worst team in MLB.

But I know why they have a terrible season because they have NO HOME and it's hard for a team to travel a lot they're getting tired and the other reason is that Vlad quit this team ,Vlad was the guy who had the most pression on him and he's a mature guy He didn't care of the pressure and he didn't wanted to lose.This season the pressure are on all the players and they didn't care if they lose or win so THIS TEAM IS ON A REBUILDING PROCESS NOW so they'll have many not good seasons again.
Sorry...didn't include Montreal in the poll. Personally I didn't expect that much from them this season...after losing Vlady and Javier Vazquez. So they're not a huge disappointment.

Houston....they go out and get Clemens, Pettite, and Beltran, and are starting to fade from even the wild card race.

Seattle for me

Mariners

I won't call Phillies disappointing,babe,we are not out of this race just yet! ;)
However,Arizona and Seattle,WTF is going on there? I'll also second Houston,they went and got the guys they needed,and well...it didn't work out. Clemens,ok,he's a 10-11 game winner now,but Pettite? He's a bust right now. Unless they get him back to his Yankee self,they're going down.

*gosh I'm good. I should be on Baseball tonight :joker: *

Houston by a long shot.

Anaheim made this poll? They're a couple games back in the wild-card race. I think they're doing pretty good, though not as good as before.

Houston by a long shot.

Anaheim made this poll? They're a couple games back in the wild-card race. I think they're doing pretty good, though not as good as before.
They were expected to runaway with the division.

Definately the Astros...

Given the amount of pre-season hype, I'd put the Cubs first, Phillies second and Astros third.

Given the amount of pre-season hype, I'd put the Cubs first, Phillies second and Astros third.
Cubs have been without their core for pretty much the whole year. If you took Sosa, Prior, Wood, Borowski off the cubs roster in the off-season nobody would have expected a damn thing.

They were expected to runaway with the division.

Yeah, I guess, but most of the disappointment came from injuries. Erstad went down early, same with Salmon, Glaus is gone till at least the end of the season, Percival went down(though K-Rod was a good replacement), Lackey went down, etc. It's not like they were terribly underacheiving or anything, like Houston.

Yeah, I guess, but most of the disappointment came from injuries. Erstad went down early, same with Salmon, Glaus is gone till at least the end of the season, Percival went down(though K-Rod was a good replacement), Lackey went down, etc. It's not like they were terribly underacheiving or anything, like Houston.
Sorry, my bad. So its a situation much like the Cubs then. If your going strictly by underachieving, the M's have to be no 1.

I would like to say Montreal, but given their circumstances (star player walking away, 20+ games in ****ing Puerto Rico, MLB not letting the team increase payroll), this season was inevitable.

I think Seattle has been the most disappointing. I didn't expect them to dominate, but I did expect them to challenge in the AL West.

Got to be the Mariners.

Blue Jays. Never would have thought Tampa out in front of them in the standings. They were expected to give Boston or the Yanks' a run for second place in the AL East.

Halladay's bum arm

15 million doller man, Delgado playing like a player earning 1.5 Million

and the same old crummy bullpen. That's the Blue Jays I know. Subpar, below 500.

The Mariners and Astros come to mind. I guess it was going to happen sooner or later in Seattle, though. Years of free agent and trade neglect by Gillick does that to a team though. Pat Gillick is the most overrated GM in the game.

He comes to Seattle and makes some signings. Ichiro fell into his lap, IMO. That was going to happen no matter who was in charge. After that, he does dick-****ing all. Congrats, Pat. You deprived Mariners fans of a potential shot at the World Series because you're gun shy at the deadline.

I don't know much about Houston's situation other than that they brought in two awesome pitchers and traded for the best available player and are fading fast.

Anaheim made this poll? They're a couple games back in the wild-card race. I think they're doing pretty good, though not as good as before.
I put the Angels in because, although far from "out of it" they have not been the dominant team that I expected at the beginning of the season. They've had more than their share of injuries. But since the all-star break they are 2-4...and that's with all of their stars (except for Glaus) back. Colon has been a major disappointment.

Perhaps I'm over-reacting though, and should give them time.

Yeah, I guess, but most of the disappointment came from injuries. Erstad went down early, same with Salmon, Glaus is gone till at least the end of the season, Percival went down(though K-Rod was a good replacement), Lackey went down, etc. It's not like they were terribly underacheiving or anything, like Houston.

Injuries are no excuse ;) ...Texas has lost more games to injury than all but 2 or 3 other teams....1 is Boston, and the other is not Anaheim...

Wow there are a lot. I think it's either the Mariners, Angels or Phillies. Blue Jays were never winning the division. Disappointing maybe but not most considering their fate was not a playoff team.

Even with their injuries, I gotta say the Cubs.

But then again, when you lose your ace to start the season, your top slugger and now losing Wood, they have every reason to be struggling, especially in their division.

Wow there are a lot. I think it's either the Mariners, Angels or Phillies. Blue Jays were never winning the division. Disappointing maybe but not most considering their fate was not a playoff team.
Well I included a lot of teams. Some (i.e Phillies, Orioles) may not be considered disappointments. Phillies are still very much in the thick of the playoff and pennant race. But, I expected more from them than to be just a few games over .500.

The Orioles were a team I expected to challange for a wild card spot. Instead they're in last place.

btw,we aren't in second place anymore ;)

btw,we aren't in second place anymore ;)
I'm hoping the Phillies win their division. At the top of the poll it says "as of 7/20/04". I'm not aware of any way I can change the poll.

Anyways, have you heard anything about the Phils trading Kevin Millwood?

Anyways, have you heard anything about the Phils trading Kevin Millwood?

At this rate,maybe I'll give him a second chance. But it's just a rumor.

BJ's only because I thougt they would contend for a wild card spot.

The Angels are fading...2-5 since the All-star break. :rolleyes:

Houston. I'm also disappointed with my Expos, but I can't really blame them. I thought they'd have enough heart to stay in competition for at least the wildcard but I guess not. Seattle and Toronto i was expecting would do much better also.

They were expected to runaway with the division.

I would assume you were talking about Houston and not the Angels :shakehead

I would assume you were talking about Houston and not the Angels :shakehead
I think he was.

The Angels beat the Rangers 11-1 today. That makes (I believe) 3 good starts in a row for Colon. (Or should I say "quality starts.") So it's not over yet. 3-5 since the All-Star break.

Houston. I'm also disappointed with my Expos, but I can't really blame them. I thought they'd have enough heart to stay in competition for at least the wildcard but I guess not. Seattle and Toronto i was expecting would do much better also.
A friend of mine is a big Expos fan. He's depressed about how the Expos are doing. But it's kind of hard to blame the team on that one. They lose their best position player by far (Guerrero) and one of their top 2 starters (Vazquez).

And as Van pointed out they have an outrageous travel schedule...going to Puerto Rico and all.

Tough to compete with those circumstances.

I think he was.

The Angels beat the Rangers 11-1 today. That makes (I believe) 3 good starts in a row for Colon. (Or should I say "quality starts.") So it's not over yet. 3-5 since the All-Star break.

Seems like the only good starts Colon has are against the Rangers(3-0, sub-3 ERA) while going like 5-8 with an ERA over 6 vs. everyone else.

Seems like the only good starts Colon has are against the Rangers(3-0, sub-3 ERA) while going like 5-8 with an ERA over 6 vs. everyone else.
Well, he's been pitching better in general the last 3 or 4 starts. He had a good start against the Red Sox, his last outing. I think he went 7 and allowed 1 ER. Apparantly he had some kind of ankle or back problem that was affecting his mechanics and delivery. But from what I hear, he's feeling and doing better.

Kind of a relief that there is a possible explanation for why he was so horrible for an extended period of time. If he can get going, the Angels could be in good shape.

Escobar, imo, has been the Halos most consistent pitcher. His record belies the fact of how good he's been. He gets almost no run support. Yesterdays game was a case in point.

Washburn has been good, generally speaking. His last outing was rough. But the two starts before that he pitched 14-15 shutout innings (0 ER). But he's the opposite of Escobar...he gets tons of run support.

Forgot to mention, maybe why Colon has pitched well against the Rangers is due to when Texas has faced Colon. They played a few times at the very beginning of the season when Colon was good. And they faced him today, when he's back on his game.

I think he was.

The Angels beat the Rangers 11-1 today. That makes (I believe) 3 good starts in a row for Colon. (Or should I say "quality starts.") So it's not over yet. 3-5 since the All-Star break.

I know, it's going to be a great race down the stretch between the 3 in the West. Not much seperated them right now. Hoping for a good start from Redman tonight so the A's can gain some gain

And on a side noe...Ricardo Rodriguez just cant catch a break..Rangers acquire him last year when he was hurt, and he doesnt picth for us at all. He's slated to make the big club out of spring training, then has to have an appendectomy....finaly rehabs through all that, and goes 3-0 with a 0.76 ERA in 4 appearances(3 starts)...then gets hit with a line drive today,, breaking his right elbow :shakehead

And on a side noe...Ricardo Rodriguez just cant catch a break..Rangers acquire him last year when he was hurt, and he doesnt picth for us at all. He's slated to make the big club out of spring training, then has to have an appendectomy....finaly rehabs through all that, and goes 3-0 with a 0.76 ERA in 4 appearances(3 starts)...then gets hit with a line drive today,, breaking his right elbow :shakehead
I saw that. Brutal break. He is a right hander too, isn't he? That's going to be tough to come back from.

I saw that. Brutal break. He is a right hander too, isn't he? That's going to be tough to come back from.

Yep he's a righty...... :banghead: :banghead:

Yep he's a righty...... :banghead: :banghead:

Part of me feels bad for the guy because he was finally started to make a name for himself in the majors but.....another part of me doesn't feel so bad ;) Rangers pitching is getting pretty thin...

Astros by far.

14 games out of first place in the Central. Two-games under .500. With the acquisitions they made and with the names on their roster, they should be better than this.

So as of now, according to this very un-scientific poll. The most disappointing teams are:

1 - Houston Astros
2 - Seattle Mariners
3 - Toronto Blue Jays
4 - Chicago Cubs
5 - Arizona Diamondbacks
6 - Baltimore Orioles
7 - Anaheim Angels
7 - Philadelphia Phillies
9 - Florida Marlins
9 - Montreal Expos

God I have too much free time. :D

Part of me feels bad for the guy because he was finally started to make a name for himself in the majors but.....another part of me doesn't feel so bad ;) Rangers pitching is getting pretty thin...

Its been pretty damn thin..we need to get Dominguez back and make a deal for Benson, because after Rogers and Drese, now we have nothing.

Its been pretty damn thin..we need to get Dominguez back and make a deal for Benson, because after Rogers and Drese, now we have nothing.

It's tough to say whether the Pirates will trade Benson. And if they do I would expect 3/4 prospects to go back the other way.

And yes the Rangers pitching has been thin all year but luckily for you your bats have carried you. But what's going to happen when the bats go after for a few games...it's going to be really interesting to see if the Rangers can stay in the race down the stretch, should be a fun pennant race :D

It's tough to say whether the Pirates will trade Benson. And if they do I would expect 3/4 prospects to go back the other way.

And yes the Rangers pitching has been thin all year but luckily for you your bats have carried you. But what's going to happen when the bats go after for a few games...it's going to be really interesting to see if the Rangers can stay in the race down the stretch, should be a fun pennant race :D

I doubt they will get 3 or 4 prospects....thats not really what they want..they want an MLB ready 3B, 1B, or OF, and a pretty good prospect.....they reportedly asked for Laynce Nix and Juan Dominguez from the Rangers..which is crazy...Rangers countered with Kevin Mench and Jason Botts(AA 1B)....and if we only have Rogers and Drese for the rest of the year, then we better hope the bats only disappear when those 2 are pitching, cause we're gonna have to outhit everyone in the other games. Should definately be interesting.

I doubt they will get 3 or 4 prospects....thats not really what they want..they want an MLB ready 3B, 1B, or OF, and a pretty good prospect.....they reportedly asked for Laynce Nix and Juan Dominguez from the Rangers..which is crazy...Rangers countered with Kevin Mench and Jason Botts(AA 1B)....and if we only have Rogers and Drese for the rest of the year, then we better hope the bats only disappear when those 2 are pitching, cause we're gonna have to outhit everyone in the other games. Should definately be interesting.

True, the Pirates really need someone to protect Wilson in their lineup. They need some power. The A's pitching is a little unstable right now as well. I have heard rumors that Hudson may not start again this year (oblique injury) and instead pitch out of the bullpen, ala Smoltz. That only leaves Mulder :bow: , Harden :yo: , Zito :dunno: and Redman (who just let up a 2 run shot to Boone in the 8th :mad: )

I am most worried about the Angels, because I just have a feeling they are going to get the Big Unit...

True, the Pirates really need someone to protect Wilson in their lineup. They need some power. The A's pitching is a little unstable right now as well. I have heard rumors that Hudson may not start again this year (oblique injury) and instead pitch out of the bullpen, ala Smoltz. That only leaves Mulder :bow: , Harden :yo: , Zito :dunno: and Redman (who just let up a 2 run shot to Boone in the 8th :mad: )

I am most worried about the Angels, because I just have a feeling they are going to get the Big Unit...

Only Mulder, Harden and Zito? I think most teams could live with that...but it Anaheim gets the Unit, They will take the division, IMO.

Only Mulder, Harden and Zito? I think most teams could live with that...but it Anaheim gets the Unit, They will take the division, IMO.

It pains me to say it but I actually hope he goes to NY :banghead: or stays in the NL :joker:

It pains me to say it but I actually hope he goes to NY :banghead: or stays in the NL :joker:

Now thats stretching it......I'd rather see him go to Anaheim than NY...anything is better than NY...I'd love to see him go to a team like the Cardinals or Dodgers though.

Don't know that Johnson would waive his no-trade clause to come to the Angels. The Angels aren't certain to go to the playoffs, and Randy wants to play in October.

Plus I'm pretty sure the D-Backs would want Dallas MacPherson in a deal...whom I would be reluctant to give up if I were Bill Stoneman.

Lots of worthy candidates here, it was hard for me to just choose Houston but there is a big stink in Texas and they are it.

mariners

(go ichiro)