Any Cleveland Browns fans here?

Im a Brownies fan, anyone else?

No, me and Handsome B. Wonderful ate them.

Watch your back.

I sincerely hope not.

i like them, but the chiefs are my team

Nope! :lol

Get ready for a long season...

Go BILLS!!

Go Gators S48, anyway we could make the playoffs, its coinflip in are division.

The Steelers will bury you.

Browns fan and proud Cleveland sports supporter here. The division's a toss-up and if Garcia isn't crippled throughout the year, we've got a shot.

I hate them.

And now that they've drafted the "Chosen One" people that didn't hate them now should.
Winslow is the most arrogant ***** I've ever seen in college. Very very talented. But even his immense talent doesn't match his mouth. It's close, because he is very talented, but his mouth is just that much more.

the divisions a toss up? christ the ravens could tank the first 10 games of the season and still probably win it

and as for Kellen Winslow, the "Not really the Browns" will win 4 games with him or without him this year

i like them, but the chiefs are my team
I hear ya buddy :yo:

#edit# Except for the part on liking the Brown-Bums :shakehead

The Steelers will bury you.

:lol Riiight, them and what army?

I am not a Browns fan but unlike most people I think they will surprise this year. I think Garcia is a good fit with the Browns.

The AFC North isn't a "toss-up", the only thing that hasn't been determined is who of Cincy and Baltimore will win the division and who will finish second.

Barring some kind of miracle the Steelers have third tied up and the Browns have the basement all to themselves.

And now that they've drafted the "Chosen One" people that didn't hate them now should.
Winslow is the most arrogant ***** I've ever seen in college. Very very talented. But even his immense talent doesn't match his mouth. It's close, because he is very talented, but his mouth is just that much more.
I hope his first game is against the Ravens and Ray Lewis cleans his clock. And then someone blows out k2's knees. He's so worthless

I hope his first game is against the Ravens and Ray Lewis cleans his clock. And then someone blows out k2's knees. He's so worthless

There go's your wedding gift.

Go Gators S48, anyway we could make the playoffs, its coinflip in are division.

It is kind of a coinflip..................between the Bengals and Ravens. The Browns are destined for the basement.

It is kind of a coinflip..................between the Bengals and Ravens. The Browns are destined for the basement.

Carson Palmer, Kyle Boller, Tommy Maddux, I think we have a shot, Go back to watching the CFL.

Carson Palmer, Kyle Boller, Tommy Maddux, I think we have a shot, Go back to watching the CFL.

When your QB is Jeff Garcia you can't talk smack about any other QB in the league.

The only thing you have on any team in the division is QB.

The Browns are almost laughable in every other department.

The only thing you have on any team in the division is QB.

The Browns are almost laughable in every other department.

Well we aren't that great, but please crap happens.

Err...go Lions. Let's win a road game this year!

Ravens will win the division with their defence alone..

Bengals and Steelers should fight it out for second place, and the Browns will bring up the rear. (pun intended)

Ravens will win the division with their defence alone..

Bengals and Steelers should fight it out for second place, and the Browns will bring up the rear. (pun intended)

Well it will more of an intresting race than one of those CFL games. :shakehead

Yes, I'm sure "it will more of an intresting race than one of those CFL games"

:dunce:

Yes, I'm sure "it will more of an intresting race than one of those CFL games"

:dunce:

Forgetting a word wow! Do I need to bring up the eh? Or should I just send my boy scouts to attack?

Forgetting a word wow! Do I need to bring up the eh? Or should I just send my boy scouts to attack?

You speak pretty highly of Jeff Garcia, yet he was once a CFL QB. What, is he the one exception to crappy CFL players?
:shakehead

While nothing's a given in the NFL. It seems pretty obvious that the Ravens are the class of the division. If Garcia stays healthy, I see no reason why the Browns can't finish second in the division. The Browns will have a shot at 8-8. The Steelers are going downhill fast and will be in the basement this season and with Palmer starting for the Bengals they better hope that Rudi Johnson can produce for a full season.

The way I see it, the standings will look like this

Baltimore Ravens 10-6
Cincinati Bengals 8-8
Cleveland Browns 7-9
Pittsburgh Steelers 5-11

another Browns hater here.





The AFC North is up for grabs IMO.

You speak pretty highly of Jeff Garcia, yet he was once a CFL QB. What, is he the one exception to crappy CFL players?
:shakehead

I dont think hes great, he had TO to throw to, thats what made him great. Where did I say he's great or speak highly of him, comparing him to Palmer,Boller,and Maddux, please I would look good.

The Ravens are gonna take the division quite easily. Followed by the Bengals then the Browns and then the Steelers

What everyone is failing to notice is that we're returning nearly the same defense. Sure Jamal Lewis ran two career days against us, but they grew together as a unit and they're going to continue. McCutcheon was just re-signed for 5 years, so that might step up his game. If Griffith plays to his potential, he's good for 6 picks. Lee Suggs is going to get the starting nod over William Green. Green was 6 carries for 8 yards yesterday and Suggs ran for over 90 yards I believe in the Bills scrimmage. If Jeff Faine and the offensive line can protect Garcia and give him time to throw, it's still a talented receiving corps in Northcutt, Davis, and Morgan. If Winslow shuts his mouth and plays football, he can be a valuable asset. He's another of Butch Davis's Miami boys. If things fall together, the Browns can have a shot at the division, at least an 8-8 season.

Err...go Lions. Let's win a road game this year!

:lol

Yeah, there's always hope.

I could see the Lions doing better than the Browns though, not that it means much.

What everyone is failing to notice is that we're returning nearly the same defense. Sure Jamal Lewis ran two career days against us, but they grew together as a unit and they're going to continue. McCutcheon was just re-signed for 5 years, so that might step up his game. If Griffith plays to his potential, he's good for 6 picks. Lee Suggs is going to get the starting nod over William Green. Green was 6 carries for 8 yards yesterday and Suggs ran for over 90 yards I believe in the Bills scrimmage. If Jeff Faine and the offensive line can protect Garcia and give him time to throw, it's still a talented receiving corps in Northcutt, Davis, and Morgan. If Winslow shuts his mouth and plays football, he can be a valuable asset. He's another of Butch Davis's Miami boys. If things fall together, the Browns can have a shot at the division, at least an 8-8 season.

People dont relize that, Carson Palmer is like throwing a rookie out there because of his whole year without throwing a pass, which should mean mistakes, Steelers, are well just screwed. The Ravens will be tough but what if Jamal Lewis goes to jail for those charges? The division can be won by a losing record, and I wouldnt be surprised if it happen. Let's just see how it all unfolds. Football is in there air, I love it.

Here you go Browns fans.

Have a laugh at your incoming Mr. Winslow.

http://www.thebrushback.com/shockey_full.htm

Here you go Browns fans.

Have a laugh at your incoming Mr. Winslow.

http://www.thebrushback.com/shockey_full.htm

That article is priceless.

That article is priceless.

:joker: That "article" is pricless.

Im a Brownies fan, anyone else?
God NO. Steelers always and forever. Browns fans should be banned. (and Ravens fans)

God NO. Steelers always and forever. Browns fans should be banned. (and Ravens fans)

Good O' Fashion Hate. I love it.

And what would sports be without a good hatred rivalry!?

What everyone is failing to notice is that we're returning nearly the same defense. Sure Jamal Lewis ran two career days against us, but they grew together as a unit and they're going to continue. McCutcheon was just re-signed for 5 years, so that might step up his game. If Griffith plays to his potential, he's good for 6 picks. Lee Suggs is going to get the starting nod over William Green. Green was 6 carries for 8 yards yesterday and Suggs ran for over 90 yards I believe in the Bills scrimmage. If Jeff Faine and the offensive line can protect Garcia and give him time to throw, it's still a talented receiving corps in Northcutt, Davis, and Morgan. If Winslow shuts his mouth and plays football, he can be a valuable asset. He's another of Butch Davis's Miami boys. If things fall together, the Browns can have a shot at the division, at least an 8-8 season.


McGahee- 10 carries, 40 yrds, 4 TD's, without contact in a year... :handclap:

I think the best thing the Browns have going for them is playing in a weak division. In all honestly, a 7-9 record may be enough to win it.

Other than that, I think the Browns are one of the worst teams in the league. No playmakers on defense, terrible offensive line, QB that was inflated by his system and in rapid decline, questionable running game and most of all bad coaching. I would be shocked to see them even get a sniff of .500. 5-11 or 6-10 is my bet.

As for the rest of the division...

Ravens are one aspect away from a great team. A passing game. I am not a Boller fan (I think he is the White Stewart: more athlete than QB) and the receiving core flat-out blows goats. They seem like a lock to finish dead last in the air. I doubt they even have 3000 total yards in the air. Defense will keep the score low and Lewis carry the load (2000 will be tough to repeat) and that will all but assure them an 8-8 record at least. To be better than 10-6, Boller has to really make me look wrong.

Steelers are not getting their due respect. Yes, last year was bad. However, last year was also decimated by injuries. They are not going to be a good team, but if they can keep the line healthy and find an adequate solution at RT (the rest of the spots are decent), then they can make a run at 8-8, even the division.

Bengals are the sexy choice. I think they take a step back with Palmer QBing this year. First time starter with a pass-oriented offense spells trouble. That said, they look to be a potent contender in another year or two once Palmer does acclimate.

If Jeff Faine and the offensive line can protect Garcia and give him time to throw....


:lol

That's gonna happen... NOT! :lol

You guys have one of the worst O-lines in the history of the NFL.