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The Swedish Flash

08-13-2011, 08:33 AM

Never really got into NFL, but I did have fun watching the Redskins abit last season. Are they a team to watch this season at all?

With Rex Grossman and John Beck fighting for the starting QB gig, I doubt it. It's going to be another long season in Washington, but at least the defense should be fun to watch.

After watching a couple of preseason games, got to say..I freaking hate the new kickoff rule, they took out an exciting part of the game. Probably we will see 70% of the kickoffs ending up in touchbacks .

BonkTastic

08-13-2011, 08:38 AM

With Rex Grossman and John Beck fighting for the starting QB gig, I doubt it. It's going to be another long season in Washington, but at least the defense should be fun to watch.

After watching a couple of preseason games, got to say..I freaking hate the new kickoff rule, they took out an exciting part of the game. Probably we will see 70% of the kickoffs ending up in touchbacks .

Yep.
Raiders are going to lead the league in touchbacks, easy.
Janikowski + an extra 5 yards = zero kickoff return TD's against Oakland all year.

internetdotcom

08-13-2011, 09:24 AM

Never really got into NFL, but I did have fun watching the Redskins abit last season. Are they a team to watch this season at all?

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With Rex Grossman and John Beck fighting for the starting QB gig, I doubt it. It's going to be another long season in Washington, but at least the defense should be fun to watch.

After watching a couple of preseason games, got to say..I freaking hate the new kickoff rule, they took out an exciting part of the game. Probably we will see 70% of the kickoffs ending up in touchbacks .

Unfortunately, the 'Skins are my team. I think the only thing we have to look forward to this year is a high pick, where we can hopefully draft a good young QB and a couple of receivers for the first time in about a jillion years. And hopefully our D can put a big time hurtin' on Michael Vick (aka the dog killer).

Bileur

08-13-2011, 10:31 AM

If Matt stafford stays injury free the Lions will surprise a lot of people.

GO LIONS!!!!

That's a MASSIVE if.

For those in the know, a young team to keep an eye on is the tampa bay Buccaneers. Led by one of the top 3 young QB's in the league, with an excellent young receiving core, young D line, a physical beast of a running back. This is a team building something great.

08-13-2011, 10:59 AM

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Yes I'm that ******* who cheers for the Pats. ;)

I'm pumped.

sens2k9

08-13-2011, 12:36 PM

Never really got into NFL, but I did have fun watching the Redskins abit last season. Are they a team to watch this season at all?

When one of their quarterbacks (John Beck) showed up at the practice facility the day after the lockout ended, security didn't recognize him and wouldn't let him in.

Shanny

08-13-2011, 01:01 PM

anyone else here think that the Bengals have a decent shot of not winning a single game all season?

internetdotcom

08-13-2011, 01:32 PM

anyone else here think that the Bengals have a decent shot of not winning a single game all season?

Wouldn't shock me.

Lehner

08-13-2011, 01:49 PM

These vids get me ready to go for the new year:

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Sens Mile

08-13-2011, 02:04 PM

Hopefully we will see the Lions FSU this year!!

Shanny

08-13-2011, 02:14 PM

Hopefully we will see the Lions FSU this year!!

They will have every opportunity to do well this year.

Stafford, Best,Johnson,Burleson, Davis, Pettigrew, Harrison all leading their offense Plus Vandenbosche, Delmas,Houston, and Suh on D will bring the heat to any offense in the league.

That team has the potential to do great things this year if they can stay healthy, and find a way to beat the Packers.

I'm predicting a 10-6 wildcard berth.

littleD

08-13-2011, 02:44 PM

49ers!

Sigh.

sens2k9

08-13-2011, 03:32 PM

49ers!

Sigh.

At least your hopes aren't resting on Chad Henne.

:cry:

Thank god Buffalo looks as inept as ever, maybe the Dolphins won't be last in their division.

littleD

08-13-2011, 04:25 PM

Alex Smith, Chad Henne... is it really any different?

Not only that, we lost out on a big name CB, Aubrayo Franklin signed with New Orleans, and Crabtree might miss the start of the regular season.

SenatorsFC

08-13-2011, 04:46 PM

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BonkTastic

08-13-2011, 04:52 PM

They will have every opportunity to do well this year.

Stafford, Best,Johnson,Burleson, Davis, Pettigrew, Harrison all leading their offense Plus Vandenbosche, Delmas,Houston, and Suh on D will bring the heat to any offense in the league.

That team has the potential to do great things this year if they can stay healthy, and find a way to beat the Packers.

I'm predicting a 10-6 wildcard berth.

I'm not saying that the Lions aren't getting better, they're clearly not the joke of a team they've been for the past decade, throughout the Millen era.... I definitely like the direction the team is going in this year.

That being said, they play in the NFC North, possibly the toughest division in the NFL. With the Lions really raising their game, there are no slouches left in the division, and every game is going to be a war.

I'd even be so bold as to say the Bears are going to be the last-place team in that division this year. However, the division is CLEARLY the Packers to lose, and I'd put the Vikings ahead of the Lions in the final standings.

1) The Defending Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers
2) Vikings
3) Lions
4) Bears

I'd say if the Lions hit 8-9 wins this season, they should be pleased with the progress, and know that they'll only get better for the 2012 season.

sens2k9

08-13-2011, 04:58 PM

1) The Defending Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers
2) Vikings
3) Lions
4) Bears

I think the Vikings are in for a terrible year, tbh.

Sens16

08-13-2011, 05:23 PM

Colts will do better this year, and hopefully Clark doesn't get injured again.

The only way I see the Lions making the playoffs is if Stafford is healthy all season long, and the defensive line keeping the games close for them. Just have to add that Suh is a ****ing beast.

BonkTastic

08-13-2011, 05:28 PM

I think the Vikings are in for a terrible year, tbh.

I think they're definitely a declining team, but as much as I hate them, I give them one more good shot at a 9-9 or 10-6 year before the wheels come off completely and they have to rebuild. I think McNabb has enough left in the tank for one more mediocre year. This'll be Minnesota's last hurrah.

I tell you this much: The 2013 Vikings are going to be an absolute train-wreck.

Starting in 2012, it's going to be a good 5 year stretch of Packers & Lions at the top of the NFC North. I think the Lions are going to need one more year to get there, though.

FolignoQuantumLeap

08-13-2011, 05:52 PM

I've been a big Chiefs fans forever, and its soooo nice to have a good team again. The team should take the division again (**** you Broncos and Chargers) and run for about 250 + yards per game AGAIN. Our D looks solid too. I have a brand new stitched official Jamaal Charles jersey, delivered straight from KC ready for my Sunday ritual.

Always loved the Ravens too. Ray Lewis is my favourite player of all time and I have a couple of his jerseys hanging in my closet (beside Ed Reed and Todd Heap).

It would be awesome if those teams met in the AFC final but I have a feeling the Pats will have something to say about that.

SevenOfSpades

08-13-2011, 05:56 PM

Go Ravens!

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Ziggy66

08-13-2011, 06:00 PM

Ready and waiting for the NFL to start. My team is getting S%^$ kicked in the CFL so far but my NFL Fantasy League will soon consume me and I will forget about the CFL, hopefully I will luck out again this year...picked up Hillis and Mcfadden last season and didnt look back!!

Shanny

08-13-2011, 07:51 PM

I'm not saying that the Lions aren't getting better, they're clearly not the joke of a team they've been for the past decade, throughout the Millen era.... I definitely like the direction the team is going in this year.

That being said, they play in the NFC North, possibly the toughest division in the NFL. With the Lions really raising their game, there are no slouches left in the division, and every game is going to be a war.

I'd even be so bold as to say the Bears are going to be the last-place team in that division this year. However, the division is CLEARLY the Packers to lose, and I'd put the Vikings ahead of the Lions in the final standings.

1) The Defending Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers
2) Vikings
3) Lions
4) Bears

I'd say if the Lions hit 8-9 wins this season, they should be pleased with the progress, and know that they'll only get better for the 2012 season.

no doubt that the NFC North is one of the toughest divisions,

That said, if healthy, the Lions have some pretty scary weapons, and are one of the most dangerous teams in the league, and at this point are far superior to the Favre and Rice less Vikings.

...heck even last year without VandenBosche and Stafford and Best in the lineup they gave the Packers a run for their money in a 28-26 loss at Lambeau........and topped it off with a 7-3 win over the Pack at Ford Field later in the year with a depleted lineup.

If it wasn't such a tough division they were playing in, they would be a clear cut favourite to make noise in the playoffs.

BK201

08-14-2011, 09:25 AM

I think the Vikings are in for a terrible year, tbh.

me too.i'd be surprised if the bears were last. there more than likely not going to be first but detroit has health problems always and vikings seem to get QB problems.

there's a reason mcnabb wasn't resigned to his 40 some million dollar contract .... and i think we'll see it this year i call viking in last.

BonkTastic

08-14-2011, 09:45 AM

me too.i'd be surprised if the bears were last. there more than likely not going to be first but detroit has health problems always and vikings seem to get QB problems.

there's a reason mcnabb wasn't resigned to his 40 some million dollar contract .... and i think we'll see it this year i call viking in last.

I'll just say that I HOPE the Vikings are last in the division. Bandwagon PetersonVikings fans are some of the most annoying fans out there.

I still think they've got the best chance at 2nd in the div. Too many veterans on that team who still have a lot left in the tank. McNabb doesn't have to be great for them to have an OK year, he just has to be average.

IF Stafford can protect his shoulder and stay healthy all year, and their young impact guys can develop faster than expected, they could make a run for 2nd. I can see it happening, I'm just not expecting it. This year, at least.

Bears are a mess. They have a turnover machine at QB, their o-line can't stop a cold, and the defense can still be consistently beat through the air. Haven't addressed their clear need for a game-changing option at WR (Roy Williams? haha...). The one dominant part of their game, Special Teams, just took a huge hit with the new kickoff rules.

DukeNukem

08-14-2011, 10:52 AM

What is the new kick-off return rule? I love the pack and see them even better this year than last. They will own the division, vikings and bears will take years to recover from their respective QB disasters. I'll wait and see on the Lions. As for everybody else, it's the usual suspects, Steelers, Patriots, Colts, Saints, and ummm, Giants...naw forget it.

BK201

08-14-2011, 12:39 PM

I'll just say that I HOPE the Vikings are last in the division. Bandwagon PetersonVikings fans are some of the most annoying fans out there.

I still think they've got the best chance at 2nd in the div. Too many veterans on that team who still have a lot left in the tank. McNabb doesn't have to be great for them to have an OK year, he just has to be average.

IF Stafford can protect his shoulder and stay healthy all year, and their young impact guys can develop faster than expected, they could make a run for 2nd. I can see it happening, I'm just not expecting it. This year, at least.

Bears are a mess. They have a turnover machine at QB, their o-line can't stop a cold, and the defense can still be consistently beat through the air. Haven't addressed their clear need for a game-changing option at WR (Roy Williams? haha...). The one dominant part of their game, Special Teams, just took a huge hit with the new kickoff rules.

What bears defense is top 5 in the league. Specail teams may have took a hit, but yet to see what happens with the new rule. Most of cutlers interceptions are due to the receivers if it wasn't for a weak o line he would look a lot better.

Roy Williams had a pro bowl year in martz's system which is what the bears currently use.

I think they'll go 9-7 challenge for a wild card.

Shanny

08-14-2011, 12:44 PM

FolignoQuantumLeap

08-14-2011, 01:02 PM

Lions are being massively underrated here, if healthy, they are a better team then the Bears and Vikes already, and are the only team in that division that can beat the Packers this year(just look what they did last season with an injury riddled team against them).

I'm seeing the exact opposite. All I see are some fantasy hounds drooling over players in skill positions but ignoring that the O and D lines are still pretty weak relative to their division. They're improving but they are of no threat to any contender right now.

BonkTastic

08-14-2011, 01:24 PM

What bears defense is top 5 in the league.
Never said their D as a whole is bad. Their run D is really quite fantastic. Their pass rush is quite effective. Their secondary is pretty frigging awful. If your O-line can hold up over 4 quarters against the pass rush and you can get the ball up in the air against the Bears, you've got a really good chance at beating them. Their pass D was in the bottom third in the league last year, and doesn't look any better this year.

Most of cutlers interceptions are due to the receivers if it wasn't for a weak o line he would look a lot better.
His INT numbers weren't great in Denver, when he had some DAMNED good receivers and a fabulous O-line. Half of his INT's are just awful throws, with no fault on his receivers.
That being said, he was sacked 52 times last year. FIFTY TWO. And somehow, the Bears O-line managed to get WORSE this offseason. I don't see Cutler having a fantastic year. In fact, if he even moderately approaches last year's sack numbers, I won't be surprised if he misses some games via injury this year. Is Caleb Hanie still the backup?

Roy Williams had a pro bowl year in martz's system which is what the bears currently use.
The same Roy Williams that hasn't had over 600 receiving yards since 2008? Who has dropped VERY catch-able balls over the past 3 years? I think Williams will do better than he did in Dallas, He's a MUCH better fit for Cutler than he was with Romo, but he's not "the answer". He runs terrible routes, and he's slowed down A TON since he played in Detroit. That's a bad combination.

I think they'll go 9-7 challenge for a wild card.
I think that's a best-case scenario for Chicago this year. They're not an awful team, but I think they're the worst in a VERY strong division.

BK201

08-14-2011, 03:27 PM

Meh I don't care to argue about the bears there too unpredictable.

They loose to bad teams beat good teams. You never know what there gonna do game to game let alone a full season

BonkTastic

08-14-2011, 03:47 PM

Meh I don't care to argue about the bears there too unpredictable.

They loose to bad teams beat good teams. You never know what there gonna do game to game let alone a full season

True enough.

PeterSidorkiewicz

08-14-2011, 05:27 PM

I'm seeing the exact opposite. All I see are some fantasy hounds drooling over players in skill positions but ignoring that the O and D lines are still pretty weak relative to their division. They're improving but they are of no threat to any contender right now.

Lions d line is better than bears and just as good as vikes and packers, their secondary is weak.
Overall the lions imo are just as good as the bears and significantly better than Minnesota, their oline is underrated too.

Shanny

08-14-2011, 05:33 PM

Lions d line is better than bears and just as good as vikes and packers, their secondary is weak.
Overall the lions imo are just as good as the bears and significantly better than Minnesota, their oline is underrated too.

With guys like Delmas and Houston in the backfield....I wouldn't exactly call their secondary weak either.

Emerica

08-14-2011, 05:40 PM

Does anybody have an online fantasy league I could join?

DJB

08-14-2011, 07:31 PM

Looking forward to the NFL season, even if my Bills are going to suck. :laugh:

Hopefully we end up with Andrew Luck though! :handclap:

DJB

08-14-2011, 07:34 PM

Does anybody have an online fantasy league I could join?

If you are looking to do a keeper league, I know one that is just starting this year including the draft. My brother in law are looking for some dedicated GM's, we currenlty have 7 GM's ready to go but need some more.

Interested just PM me! :)

BK201

08-14-2011, 08:26 PM

Looking forward to the NFL season, even if my Bills are going to suck. :laugh:

Hopefully we end up with Andrew Luck though! :handclap:

bills should be able to hit 6-20 this year it seems **** but it's an improvement miami sucks this year i don't see them doing better than the bills.

SelleckStache

08-15-2011, 08:30 AM

If the Bills win 4 games this year, I will be surprised.

Disclose

08-15-2011, 09:10 AM

People are overrating the lions... they will better but not hard to do when they've sucked for so many years.

Anyways go cowboys.. :(

BK201

08-15-2011, 09:14 AM

If the Bills win 4 games this year, I will be surprised.

I think they'll win more than Miami.

As soon as they picked up Fitzgerald as QB, 99% of thier losses were by a field goal and he threw 3000 yards for 23 TD in 13 games.

There's a lot of holes bit I'm not saying they'll do amazing. I just think they will surprise some people is all and do better than miami

Shanny

08-15-2011, 09:15 AM

People are overrating the lions... they will better but not hard to do when they've sucked for so many years.

Anyways go cowboys.. :(

overrating?...don't think so.

They finished 6-10 last year with a depleted lineup in one of the toughest divisions to play in, almost every game that they lost last year was by a very close score and could have gone either way, they have a lot of weapons, and if healthy, they have potential to do a whole lot of damage this year.

aside from the Packers, the division has gotten weaker...and the Lions have gotten better.

Lehner

08-15-2011, 09:18 AM

Does anybody have an online fantasy league I could join?

Sens board fantasy league

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=955935

Anyone can join if interested, few spots left..

SelleckStache

08-15-2011, 09:39 AM

I think they'll win more than Miami.

As soon as they picked up Fitzgerald as QB, 99% of thier losses were by a field goal and he threw 3000 yards for 23 TD in 13 games.

There's a lot of holes bit I'm not saying they'll do amazing. I just think they will surprise some people is all and do better than miami

I think a lot of those TD's are when the game was already lost though.

Yeah, but with Evans gone, I think it makes defending the Bills even easier than last year.

Like all bad teams, the Bills have an uncanny ability to lose close games. I still think they'll be worse than Miami.

CheeseSandwich*

08-15-2011, 10:11 AM

What team has the best chance this year? I have to pick one to cheer for.

BK201

08-15-2011, 10:16 AM

What team has the best chance this year? I have to pick one to cheer for.

Don't just pick the best team watch games on Sunday and find a team you enjoy to watch.

Different teams have different styles of play and formations and play different styles.

CheeseSandwich*

08-15-2011, 10:36 AM

Don't just pick the best team watch games on Sunday and find a team you enjoy to watch.

Different teams have different styles of play and formations and play different styles.

I dont want to watch. Boring as hell and I'm busy on Sunday's working out and living life. Can't sit in front of a tv.

BK201

08-15-2011, 10:42 AM

I dont want to watch. Boring as hell and I'm busy on Sunday's working out and living life. Can't sit in front of a tv.

Well if that's the way it's gonna be bills bengals panthers or browns are what your looking for

Edit I'm just kidding top teams generally are patriots, jets, ravens, steelers, colts, falcons, saints, eagles giants packers pic one of those and it's hard to get disappointed but since you don't watch it won't matter anyways