HFBoards - Montreal Canadiens http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/ en Wed, 22 May 2013 04:10:55 GMT vBulletin 60 http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/images/misc/rss.jpg HFBoards - Montreal Canadiens http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/ The Official 2013 (Annual) Habs Board Mock Draft Thread (Officially Underway!!) http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1357589&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 04:04:19 GMT
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Originally Posted by hototogisu (Post 66409119)
We're at #147, by the way. Nice try, skipping my pick again...
I edited mine, I foolishly went off the pick infront of me haha :laugh: my bad ]]> Montreal Canadiens Yarfangor http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1357589 Injury Report: Alexei Emelin out 6 months http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1433475&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 04:00:34 GMT
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Originally Posted by Habs (Post 66397681)
I haven't see the FA list for this year to see if there is any possible help on the horizon if he choses that route. With the cap going down, I'm not sure how much room we even have left after the Gomez contract is gone?
The cap might be a tight squeeze but regardless, it's highly unlikely a move isn't made in some way to replace Emelin.


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Originally Posted by Lshap (Post 66399263)
Why would anyone want to trade Diaz?? Yes, we can get really good trade value for him - that's because he has really good value, period. Stop fixating on the rusty version of Diaz we saw after coming back from a long injury. This is a very solid top-four D who skates, moves the puck, has a great shot and can play both PP and PK roles. He and Emelin made major leaps last season and were big reasons why the Habs had such a great start. We need a heavyweight upgrade for Bouillon - who played well but is a diminishing return - and we need a more-confident Tinordi. Gorges gets a takeover for a weak year, but his game needs to pick up.
I like Diaz. I agree with your evaluation but he is simply an asset we can afford to move. Remove Diaz, and we have plenty of PMD (two of which are above him in the depth chart already) and in return we can upgrade our Dcore by gaining a quality physical Dman and diversifying our Dcore. Diaz is an asset, but IMO I think his value is better served by flipping him for a need than keeping him and sitting on a surplus of small, offensive Dmen. Diaz would fit well on other teams that can insulate him properly to maximize his effectiveness. On Montreal, he'd be asked to do too much without a proper kind of partner that he would need.

As for Boullion, he's the 7D. Obviously we'd like to upgrade him, but we can't trade Boullion, Weber,etc and expect a quality Dman coming back. We should trade Diaz because it will better the club as a whole, especially if the Dman we get back sticks when Emelin returns, bumping Boullion to the press box. Tinordi, as I've said, will be fine on the 3rd pairing. Gorges should bounce back, I doubt he's as bad as he was this year.

We'd have 4 physical Dmen (Subban, Tinordi, Emelin, New guy)
1 "neutral" Dman (Gorges)
1 non-physical Dman (Markov)

The thing about defence is that we can only dress 6 guys. We can't afford to use a spot on Diaz when we're soft already. Other teams have that luxury. ]]> Montreal Canadiens StellerEller http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1433475 <![CDATA[Montreal Impact Thread 15.0 - Not The "Jinxed Undefeated Season" Edition]]> http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1419141&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 03:59:17 GMT
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Originally Posted by deandebean (Post 66403123)
The Red Bulls are going to move one day. Harrison AIN'T New York. Any way you look at it. At least, the Meadowlands area is close to the island.
that stadium won't budge...neither will NYRB. ]]> Montreal Canadiens Woland http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1419141 The Out of Town Thread part LIX - All Talk From Around the League Here http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1429647&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 03:56:36 GMT sometimes funny, sometimes stupid. can't win them all :(

wtf i can't quote somebody broke hf ]]> Montreal Canadiens MasterDecoy http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1429647 Confirmed with Link: Magnus Nygren signs a two year ELC with the Habs http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1429071&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 03:55:02 GMT ---Quote (Originally by Analyzer)--- Because it needs to be posted on every page. The Borje Salming award goes to the best Swedish dman in Elitserien ...
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Originally Posted by Analyzer (Post 66267009)
Because it needs to be posted on every page.

The Borje Salming award goes to the best Swedish dman in Elitserien

http://eurohockey.com/article/2404-s...us-nygren.html
Yes but his 32 points makes him only 4th in points 9 points behind Chris Lee who pairs with him on PP. ]]> Montreal Canadiens 24get http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1429071 The Carey Price Discussion Thread (Part 4) http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1426797&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 03:38:12 GMT ---Quote (Originally by hockeyfan2k11)--- So actual production and results compared to his peers have nothing to do with why you consider him top 5? Mind = blown ---End Quote--- ---Quote (Originally by Lafleurs...
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Originally Posted by hockeyfan2k11 (Post 66409223)
So actual production and results compared to his peers have nothing to do with why you consider him top 5?

Mind = blown
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Originally Posted by Lafleurs Guy (Post 66411463)
It was shown to you... you continue to ignore it. tied for 6th. And two of those goalies became backups.

But keep holding your hands over your ears.
In theory, you are both right. Price is on the cusp of either solidifying his role as a dominant young goalie, or he is beginning his slide to overrated mediocrity. Depends on how you want to look at it. ]]> Montreal Canadiens Habs http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1426797 2013 NHL Entry Draft Talk 8.0 http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1432703&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 03:30:43 GMT tvasports.ca/hockey/canadiens/un-quebecois-au-premier-tour-21052013

During the 2nd intermission of tonight's game, TVA Sports spoke with Bergevin for a couple of minutes. Aside from a few good words for Dietz, Thrower, Nygren and Collberg, MB touched on a couple of draft issues.

Summary for those of you who don't understand French:
  • He's feeling good about the 25th spot, might consider moving up slightly.
  • It's hard to have an idea of who's going to be available at that spot.
  • Many good Quebecois players in the 2013 class. He has seen many of them himself, and feels like the scouting staff (Serge Boisvert, Donald Audette and TT) have a pretty solid evaluation for all of them.
]]> Montreal Canadiens didjuicythat http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1432703 Plan for 2014-2015 http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1433601&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 03:30:30 GMT
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Originally Posted by MXD (Post 66396433)
I stopped reading at Plekanec centering the first line. Pretty much another VERY INSIGHTFUL "let's bash DD cause he actually exists" post in disguise.
How many years do you think DD has left as a Hab? If he plays out his contract (which I doubt), do you think he'll get to sign another? If he does, all the talk about how the Habs will become a strong contender would amount to hot air. ]]> Montreal Canadiens Teufelsdreck http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1433601 Prospect Info: The Memorial Cup 2013 Thread! (London vs Halifax on Sportsnet tonight - 8pm) http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1431415&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 03:26:09 GMT ---Quote (Originally by Ohashi_Jouzu)--- But in all seriousness, why are some people so infatuated with Thrower, of all people? Hopefully not his draft position. Best to drop that level of hype/expectation. ---End Quote---...
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Originally Posted by Ohashi_Jouzu (Post 66362675)
But in all seriousness, why are some people so infatuated with Thrower, of all people? Hopefully not his draft position. Best to drop that level of hype/expectation.
I just can't wait for the Road House references.



Only the people with great movie taste will get the Dalton reference right away.... ]]> Montreal Canadiens Habs http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1431415 <![CDATA[Why Don't The Habs Ever Get Any Credit?]]> http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1431605&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 03:17:33 GMT ---Quote (Originally by SouthernHab)--- I hate to be the bearer of bad news and burst your bubble but hockey players do not decide where they want to play based upon the fanbase. Yes, you and I are irrelevant to...
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Originally Posted by SouthernHab (Post 66409555)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news and burst your bubble but hockey players do not decide where they want to play based upon the fanbase. Yes, you and I are irrelevant to professional athletes.

Its all about the money first and for established stars, the best chance to win a Cup (Iginla proved that point at the trade deadline).

Funny that you put " " around "real" fans. I have seen the Habs win multiple Cups being a "real" fan.

You can put any spin that you like on this season of Canadiens hockey. If it makes you happy as hell that we won the division and made the playoffs, knock yourself out with your joyous celebration.

However, once reality sets in, this season goes down as a good season but one of ultimate failure.
Quoted For Truth! ]]> Montreal Canadiens Habs http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1431605 <![CDATA[Habs' off-season moves (all trades, proposals & free agent talk here) III]]> http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1430087&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 03:10:40 GMT
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Originally Posted by Roulin (Post 66397461)
Weird inference by Leroux there. I mean, the Habs must have already known how big Archambault was going to be. Isn't the issue more that the rest of his skillset didn't develop enough? :dunno:
It's called selective reporting. You use one fact to create a reasoning as to why something is happening. Instead of saying he's not good enough, he uses his height as a reason to why he won't be signed. ]]> Montreal Canadiens schumway2 http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1430087 Would the Habs benefit from a Heavyweight enforcer? Part 3 http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1385117&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 03:07:03 GMT
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Originally Posted by SouthernHab (Post 66408549)
I agree with you most of the time regarding this issue.

However, Thornton only had a little bit over 6 1/2 minutes in tonight's game.
He "only" had 2 points on 2 goals tonight.

6.5 minutes more than anyone from Montreal played.

And they're up 3-0 in the series.

And Thornton has won 2 cups. ]]> Montreal Canadiens Beendair Donedat http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1385117 OT: Street Named After Gary Carter http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1433661&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 02:14:06 GMT Now all they need is Andre Dawson Avenue. Now all they need is Andre Dawson Avenue. ]]> Montreal Canadiens Lafleurs Guy http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1433661 2013 Mock Draft 2.0********* - DRAFT STARTED!! http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1370069&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 01:51:51 GMT
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Originally Posted by hototogisu (Post 66376875)
Nice catch. Kinda hard to cross the names over when the list at the OP isn't updated :laugh: ]]> Montreal Canadiens QuebecPride http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1370069 Confirmed with Link: Sebastian Collberg signed to 3 year Entry Level Contract http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1433459&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 01:00:23 GMT
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Originally Posted by Guilliam (Post 66390485)
Interesting. So, in a way, the incentive to bring Nygren over right away is greater since his contract with the Habs will be in effect either way...
I don't know if it would be great or not, since the Habs didn't have any choice, they had to sign him before the June 1st deadline. With the a new PTA in place, we'll see what changes have been made in terms of bringing players over. Perhaps the Habs will look at it as though they are burning a year of his ELC and he counts against the 50 contract limit so that could put more pressure to bring him over now but in the end my guess would be that they will do what they feel is best for the development of Nygren since losing a contract spot shouldn't hurt next year.

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Originally Posted by CrAzYNiNe (Post 66391969)
So for Nygren, if he is loaned back to the SEL, he would have one year left on his ELC (2013-2014 in the SEL) but Collberg would still have 3 years left even if loaned back to the SEL?
correct. Collberg is in the same boat as say Hudon, in that both are signed but since they are junior aged, their contracts slid unless they are in the NHL and play more then 9 games next season.

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Originally Posted by Analyzer (Post 66395941)
To me it says that Nygren will come over next year (the 2014-2015 season)


Odd they would have Collberg come to the just drafted/college camp, but I guess one camp is better than none.
I wouldn't read into either way with Nygren, my bet would be that the Habs will go with what they think is best for his development as it wont hurt either way. Nygren has only 2 full seasons in the SEL, so another surely couldn't hurt, but they may also feel that getting him to North America quicker is the better way to go.

Collberg can likely only come to the one camp, as he's under contract with his SEL club at this time and with the SEL starting before the NHL, he will be with his SEL team when the Habs open their camp in the fall. Granted that would change if the Habs wanted him in North America and he bought out the final year of his contract.

In the end, we have to wait on the details of the PTA though, as it's hard to guess what if any changes will take place. ]]> Montreal Canadiens montreal http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1433459