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St1ngr 10-12-2011 09:10 PM

You're Howson....
 
What do you do?

CapnCornelius 10-12-2011 09:16 PM

The only moves Howson needs to consider at this point involve call-ups from
Springy an sending Johansen to Portland before the stench of this season taints him.

MFRONE 10-12-2011 09:18 PM

Can't really do anything at this point. A shake up is an admission of failure and should get him fired on the spot.

He can try and find a goalie, but it's something that he should have done last year and he didn't feel the need to address it.

As said every year, you can't trade crap for a diamond. He's stuck, especially with all the contracts that he gave out.

Iron Balls McGinty 10-12-2011 09:18 PM

Start talking to all of those scouts at the game and see if there is anything on this team that they want.

St1ngr 10-12-2011 09:23 PM

IMO The only significant change we can make right now to affect the outcome of the season is at G.

Robert 10-12-2011 09:23 PM

Quit...lol

To be honest there isn't much he can do other than make a trade. I know Mason is not the only one at fault but if the Jackets can't score or defend they better have a veteran goalie the team trusts. I don't think there's one CBJ player that would say Mason builds confidence in the room or on the ice (in private or after a few beers that is).

Howson blew it not signing a veteran GT with a higher profile than Sanford.. the other guy (Duc or whatever) is a freaking non NHL player, what good is that when we need stability in the net.

Howson could make a trade for a goaltender within a week, Iím thinking the Flyers would take Mason, but, Howson wonít do that out of fear that Mason might someday become a superstar.

St1ngr 10-12-2011 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert (Post 37836213)
Quit...lol

To be honest there isn't much he can do other than make a trade. I know Mason is not the only one at fault but if the Jackets can't score or defend they better have a veteran goalie the team trusts. I don't think there's one CBJ player that would say Mason builds confidence in the room or on the ice (in private or after a few beers that is).

Howson blew it not signing a veteran GT with a higher profile than Sanford.. the other guy (Duc or whatever) is a freaking non NHL player, what good is that when we need stability in the net.

Howson could make a trade for a goaltender within a week, Iím thinking the Flyers would take Mason, but, Howson wonít do that out of fear that Mason might someday become a superstar.

Howson had better be fearing for his job right now more than worrying about Mason making him look bad years down the road

MapleJ 10-12-2011 09:27 PM

Mason Has Not Been The Problem This Season, Watch The Games

blahblah 10-12-2011 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert (Post 37836213)
Quit...lol

To be honest there isn't much he can do other than make a trade. I know Mason is not the only one at fault but if the Jackets can't score or defend they better have a veteran goalie the team trusts. I don't think there's one CBJ player that would say Mason builds confidence in the room or on the ice (in private or after a few beers that is).

Howson blew it not signing a veteran GT with a higher profile than Sanford.. the other guy (Duc or whatever) is a freaking non NHL player, what good is that when we need stability in the net.

Howson could make a trade for a goaltender within a week, Iím thinking the Flyers would take Mason, but, Howson wonít do that out of fear that Mason might someday become a superstar.

Howson made a gamble, saved the money for the roster. I supported his decision then and I support it game 4. I don't want some over the hill average goalie. I also like most of the rest of the moves. Give Sanford and Dek a shot before you go all angsty. From what I've seen in the past, I don't think Garon is much, if any better than Sanford honestly.

CBJBrassard16 10-12-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MapleJ (Post 37836425)
Mason Has Not Been The Problem This Season, Watch The Games

This ^

The defense has been sub-par and the offense other than line 1 has been invisible.

Robert 10-12-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St1ngr (Post 37836355)
Howson had better be fearing for his job right now more than worrying about Mason making him look bad years down the road

Point taken.... The Jackets are in serious trouble sport fans, I'm being very timid in my posts but MF is right... teams that can't win a game in the first four games of a season simply don't have the roster to make the playoffs. Or, they are not happy being in Columbus or confident in management as a whole.

Pigs On The Wing 10-12-2011 09:33 PM

Try to make a big trade for a top pairing defenseman. Our defense can't play D for crap and neither can Wizniewski.

Gagnefan924 10-12-2011 09:33 PM

I'd try and get Bobrovsky. Something about Russian goaltenders....they are all so good. Look at what freaking Varlamov did to us tonight. Mason for Bob and a pick/player.

CBJBrassard16 10-12-2011 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gagnefan924 (Post 37836789)
I'd try and get Bobrovsky. Something about Russian goaltenders....they are all so good. Look at what freaking Varlamov did to us tonight. Mason for Bob and a pick/player.

:help:

MapleJ 10-12-2011 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBJBrassard16 (Post 37836573)
This ^

The defense has been sub-par and the offense other than line 1 has been invisible.

Calvert And Atkinson have been getting some quality chances

Robert 10-12-2011 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blahblah (Post 37836491)
Howson made a gamble, saved the money for the roster. I supported his decision then and I support it game 4. I don't want some over the hill average goalie. I also like most of the rest of the moves. Give Sanford and Dek a shot before you go all angsty. From what I've seen in the past, I don't think Garon is much, if any better than Sanford honestly.

Mason is not the total problem but he's not getting any one goal games either is he? He's giving up 3 goals a game, as he has done for over two years. Can't always blame the rest of the team to make Mason look good, not for over two years.

MFRONE 10-12-2011 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MapleJ (Post 37836425)
Mason Has Not Been The Problem This Season, Watch The Games

This is correct, but he hasn't stolen a game for us (like good goalies do) and it's the only "easy" move that can be made. You can't get top D/F for crap.

blahblah 10-12-2011 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gagnefan924 (Post 37836789)
I'd try and get Bobrovsky. Something about Russian goaltenders....they are all so good. Look at what freaking Varlamov did to us tonight. Mason for Bob and a pick/player.

Yeah, the Flyers are going to want to trade their goalie under and entry level contract for Mason's contract while up against the cap. Why in the world would they want Mason, contracts aside?

blahblah 10-12-2011 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert (Post 37836925)
Mason is not the total problem but he's not getting any one goal games either is he? He's giving up 3 goals a game, as he has done for over two years. Can't always blame the rest of the team to make Mason look good, not for over two years.

Didn't address what you quoted. Trying not to be offensive, but you kind of rambling on about Mason when I was talking about the backups. The odds of moving Mason's contract is fairly remote. I think Howson did what he could with a bad situation (that he created no less).

Renion 10-12-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapnCornelius (Post 37835691)
The only moves Howson needs to consider at this point involve call-ups from
Springy an sending Johansen to Portland before the stench of this season taints him.

Pretty much agree with this, except for the reason behind sending Johansen down: I just don't think he looks at all ready. He either has an epiphany in the next couple of games or he goes down.

I'd be fine with not seeing Dorsett again. I like his style of play and his work ethic, but I don't think he's necessary. I'd rather see a player with more potential given a shot. I'll leave the name to whomever saw more of the preseason games than I did. I just hope there is someone.

jacketsinDC 10-12-2011 09:43 PM

johansen and a salary dump for schenn (or schenn plus, whatever)

what kind of defenseman do you think johansen could return, since people voted for it?

Matt Foley 10-12-2011 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapnCornelius (Post 37835691)
The only moves Howson needs to consider at this point involve call-ups from
Springy an sending Johansen to Portland before the stench of this season taints him.

Yep and yep.

CBJBrassard16 10-12-2011 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MapleJ (Post 37836901)
Calvert And Atkinson have been getting some quality chances

But they only have 1 goal. Need to bury your chances.

Gagnefan924 10-12-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blahblah (Post 37837031)
Yeah, the Flyers are going to want to trade their goalie under and entry level contract for Mason's contract while up against the cap. Why in the world would they want Mason, contracts aside?

I'm thinking hypothetically calm the f down. What you just witnessed was a team that had their goaltender keep them in it long enough so they could make a comeback. It's obvious what we need. Either we score more than 2 goals a game, or we get the best goaltender in the league. :laugh:

CBJBrassard16 10-12-2011 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacketsinDC (Post 37837295)
johansen and a salary dump for schenn (or schenn plus, whatever)

what kind of defenseman do you think johansen could return, since people voted for it?

:shakehead


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