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trobby 10-15-2011 06:34 AM

DiPietro - Top 20?
 
Hi,

Just to settle a bet, I'm coming too you guys (NYI fan base) on your opinion.

Do you guys think DiPietro is a Top 20 goalie?

Can you name 20 goalies (Starter/Backups) that are better than DiPietro.
You can name both goalies on the team (IE: Thomas, Rask)

swissexpert 10-15-2011 06:46 AM

Of course not. He isn't even the best in Long Island..
Just to name a few that are very clear above DiPietro:
Thomas
Luongo
Lundqvist
Hiller
Miller
Price
Lehtonen
Niemi
Varlamov
Kipprusoff
Ward
Fleury
Vokoun
Brodeur
Bryzgalov
Quick
Backstrom
Rask
Halak
Nabokov

Halakness Monster 10-15-2011 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trobby (Post 37937503)
Hi,

Just to settle a bet, I'm coming too you guys (NYI fan base) on your opinion.

Do you guys think DiPietro is a Top 20 goalie?

Can you name 20 goalies (Starter/Backups) that are better than DiPietro.
You can name both goalies on the team (IE: Thomas, Rask)

Easier list, name goalies that Dipietro is better then...Not many. At one point in time, yes he was top 20. Injuries have destroyed his mobility. He let's in some shots that high school goalies stop. I really hope you bet that he wasn't a top 20 goalie.

trobby 10-15-2011 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYI94wasaFLUKE9 (Post 37937603)
Easier list, name goalies that Dipietro is better then...Not many. At one point in time, yes he was top 20. Injuries have destroyed his mobility. He let's in some shots that high school goalies stop. I really hope you bet that he wasn't a top 20 goalie.

My buddy said Top 10-15 (he not a NYI fan, he's a Habs fan).
So just to 1-up him, I said he's not even top 20.

Halakness Monster 10-15-2011 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trobby (Post 37937635)
My buddy said Top 10-15 (he not a NYI fan, he's a Habs fan).
So just to 1-up him, I said he's not even top 20.

I'm 100% sure that every isles fan here will agree with me when I say this. If your friend really thinks that, he needs to put down that crack pipe. How can he be top 10-15 when he isn't even a clear cut starter on the islanders?

Sammy2010* 10-15-2011 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trobby (Post 37937503)
Hi,

Just to settle a bet, I'm coming too you guys (NYI fan base) on your opinion.

Do you guys think DiPietro is a Top 20 goalie?

Can you name 20 goalies (Starter/Backups) that are better than DiPietro.
You can name both goalies on the team (IE: Thomas, Rask)

He had the worst stats in the league last year.

StrongIslanders90 10-15-2011 07:38 AM

is this sarcastic?? he has played in a hand full of games in the past 4 years....5 years ago IMO he was a top goalie but now hes not even top 20 in the AHL....In fact the Isllanders have to AHL goalies who IMO are better than him now....Poulin and Nilsson.....

Bones45 10-15-2011 08:11 AM

DP isnt even a top 20 goalie in the AHL.

Aucoin3 10-15-2011 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trobby (Post 37937503)
Hi,

Just to settle a bet, I'm coming too you guys (NYI fan base) on your opinion.

Do you guys think DiPietro is a Top 20 goalie?

Can you name 20 goalies (Starter/Backups) that are better than DiPietro.
You can name both goalies on the team (IE: Thomas, Rask)

I will only name 3. Montoya, Nabokov, Poulin.

DiPietro is barely top 60.

NJD Kula 10-15-2011 08:17 AM

I has question - do the Islanders have to pay money to this dude even if he's on IR or does insurance pay for that?

Also if/when he retires do yall get to keep his cap hit for the years remaining on his contract?

A Pointed Stick 10-15-2011 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trobby (Post 37937503)
Hi,

Just to settle a bet, I'm coming too you guys (NYI fan base) on your opinion.

Do you guys think DiPietro is a Top 20 goalie?

Can you name 20 goalies (Starter/Backups) that are better than DiPietro.
You can name both goalies on the team (IE: Thomas, Rask)

In DiPietro's world, he is the only goaltender.

In everyone else's world, he should be top 20 in the AHL.

LeapOnOver 10-15-2011 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swissexpert (Post 37937591)
Of course not. He isn't even the best in Long Island..
Just to name a few that are very clear above DiPietro:
Thomas
Luongo
Lundqvist
Hiller
Miller
Price
Lehtonen
Niemi
Varlamov
Kipprusoff
Ward
Fleury
Vokoun
Brodeur
Bryzgalov
Quick
Backstrom
Rask
Halak
Nabokov

Very CLEAR? Are you friggin kidding? Varlamov, lehtonen, Niemi? The rest yeah but geez very clear set you up for failure automatically.

Sideshow Bob 10-15-2011 09:18 AM

The only category he would be top 20 in is the ratio of games missed due to injury to games played.

jdr016 10-15-2011 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaponover (Post 37938801)
Very CLEAR? Are you friggin kidding? Varlamov, lehtonen, Niemi? The rest yeah but geez very clear set you up for failure automatically.

Have you watched hockey in the past 18 months? I would take those three over DiPietro in a heartbeat!

JeffNYI 10-15-2011 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trobby (Post 37937503)
Hi,

Just to settle a bet, I'm coming too you guys (NYI fan base) on your opinion.

Do you guys think DiPietro is a Top 20 goalie?

Can you name 20 goalies (Starter/Backups) that are better than DiPietro.
You can name both goalies on the team (IE: Thomas, Rask)

You'll have to forgive the passion of our fanbase.

I assume you know some of DP's background, but if you're asking your question only based on talent then answer to your question is that we don't know.. We've barely seen him over the past few years, and what we have seen in regular season game action hasn't been terribly impressive - until this most recent training camp when some have said he's regained much of his form.

He was very good in pre-season, too.

But again, we have no way of knowing if he's top 20 or not based on talent. But based on production, he's nowhere near it.

OpAck 10-15-2011 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kulachuk (Post 37938489)
I has question - do the Islanders have to pay money to this dude even if he's on IR or does insurance pay for that?

I think the Isles pay that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kulachuk
Also if/when he retires do yall get to keep his cap hit for the years remaining on his contract?

Contract is insured and there would be no cap hit. If he refuses to retire, the Isles can buy the contract out...but then they'll have a cap hit and owe him money til like 2029 or something. So if/when it comes down to it...retirement would be the only option.

trobby 10-15-2011 10:02 AM

We'll after showing my buddy a few of the responses he's kind of changed his tune by saying "He's top 10-15" talent wise.

My argument would be, and always will be they he had to play consistently for a while to prove it. It's just like Pascal Leclaire. He's made a living of people saying how talented he is, but he never played enough to prove how good he could be...because when he did play it was OK at best.

I pretty much got what I expected...thanks.

islesfan3991 10-15-2011 11:05 AM

He isn't a top 20 goalie now but when he was healthy I would consider him a top 20, possibly top 15.

Backhand of Justice 10-15-2011 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaponover (Post 37938801)
Very CLEAR? Are you friggin kidding? Varlamov, lehtonen, Niemi? The rest yeah but geez very clear set you up for failure automatically.

Niemi has won a Stanley Cup...

KH1 10-15-2011 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaponover (Post 37938801)
Very CLEAR? Are you friggin kidding? Varlamov, lehtonen, Niemi? The rest yeah but geez very clear set you up for failure automatically.

:dunno: Seriously?

DiPietro was literally the worst goalie in hockey last year.

HookeyPookey* 10-15-2011 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob (Post 37939551)
The only category he would be top 20 in is the ratio of games missed due to injury to games played.

ahhh made me chuckle. Infact I raise you top 10...

Isles72 10-15-2011 11:28 AM

he would need a 30 ''win'' season with decent g.a.a /sv. pctg to get himself into the top 20.

BeMoney 10-15-2011 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaponover (Post 37938801)
Very CLEAR? Are you friggin kidding? Varlamov, lehtonen, Niemi? The rest yeah but geez very clear set you up for failure automatically.

Niemi
2010-2011 SHARKS 60 35 18 - 6 6 140 1,741 .920 2.38 3,524

Varlamov
2010-2011 CAPITALS 27 11 9 - 5 2 58 759 .924 2.23 1,560

Lehtonen
2010-2011 STARS 69 34 24 - 11 3 175 2,043 .914 2.55 4,119

Dipietro
2010-2011 ISLANDERS26 8 14 - 4 1 88 773 .886 3.44 1,533

The Year Dipietro posted his best SV %
2006-2007 ISLANDERS62 32 19 - 9 5 156 1,917 .919 2.58 3,627

Are you friggin kidding me? I"m one of the few Dipietro supporters but I'm still realistic. Last year alone those three goalies posted similar if not better numbers then Dipietro did in his best year. Against his numbers last year they are WAY ahead of him. One goalie also has a Stanley Cup ring on his finger.

Fantom 10-15-2011 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isles72 (Post 37942599)
he would need a 30 ''win'' season with decent g.a.a /sv. pctg to get himself into the top 20.

he needs to play a nhl game first.

number72 10-15-2011 12:30 PM

Dipietro hurts this team with his enormous salary, occupation of a roster spot and limited production. How much better could the Islanders be by using his salary for another player, using his roster spot to develop another player or contribution to team defensive play with another depth player. Ok I'll stop whining about DP now.


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