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juve 10-16-2011 08:33 AM

IF Martin gets fired or no contract renewal, who takes his place?
 
This is not a Martin BASH Thread.

We're off to rough a start, will we continue? Who knows. Martin has one more year on his three year contract. Will he be re-signed? Maybe be yes, maybe no. He will probably be re-signed if he gets us to the playoff. Now, if we go 1-10-1 does he get fired? If he we miss the playoffs does he fired? If he gets us to playoffs to we re-sign the contract? What if it's another first round exit?

IF he does get fired or let go at the end of season who take his place? Who would you like? And do you think will most likely get the position?

Optional question. If we fail hard this season and get a top 3 pick, who do you draft? Grigorenko or Yakupov?

MTL-rules 10-16-2011 08:40 AM

He's there to stay... as long as Boucher is still in TB (which could take a long time...)

King Woodballs 10-16-2011 08:41 AM

kirk muller.....

TheCanasianfrasian 10-16-2011 08:53 AM

I don't see the management firing him any time soon.

Analyzer* 10-16-2011 09:36 AM

4 games in and we're 1-2-1 ? PANIC

Mathradio 10-16-2011 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juve (Post 38003097)
IF he does get fired or let go at the end of season who take his place? Who would you like? And do you think will most likely get the position?

Optional question. If we fail hard this season and get a top 3 pick, who do you draft? Grigorenko or Yakupov?

1. I'd want to bring in Kirk Muller if it was at all possible.

2. Grigorenko because I don't think we'll land the first overall pick and we'd draft 2nd at the highest.

theboss* 10-16-2011 09:40 AM

Is this JM's last year? I thought the had a 4 year contract.

neofury* 10-16-2011 09:41 AM

The title is misleading at first glance. You should probably change it, looks like "Martin gets fired" :laugh:

Was going to say what a reactionary GM if he did. Why would Martin get fired? You can tell the D is pretty flimsy but by half way through the season guys like Diaz Weber and Emelin will be a lot better. It's hard to ice 3 rookies + Subban who takes his share of risks divided up by essentially Gorges and Gill. Gill has his share of issues, Gorges has been amazing imo and has been our saving grace.

Add Markov into the mix and then you get 3 vets 1 sophomore and 2 rookies, suddenly it looks a lot better than 2 vets 1 sophomore 3 rookies :laugh: I still consider Weber a rookie in all honesty. He hasn't proven to me what Subban has proven. He's getting better as time goes on though, they all seem to be.

Then up front we have Cammy temporarily injured and Price on the back end is going to be fine. I just can't see how he'd get fired right now. I also can't see how we'd do so bad. We were a shootout away from getting that extra point. 1-2-1 isn't so bad. We win next game and we're 2-2-1 and suddenly it doesn't look so bad.

In the even that we went like 5-10-3 and injuries weren't too bad I think we would start to hear rumblings. Might even take 7-15-4 before they do something though. I see us being more like 12-11-3 by that many games played. Really doubt Martin gets fired. Team just needs more time to click, they were clicking last night but unfortunately we lost the game, it happens. No need for a "What if Martin gets fired" thread yet.

Kirk Muller or Carbonneau will get hired if that happens. You can bet your ass it will. Carb I never liked but I think with this kind of talent he may actually be the right coach for us now, nobody else is available.

Stjonnypopo 10-16-2011 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Analyzer (Post 38004095)
4 games in and we're 1-2-1 ? PANIC

He made it pretty clear that he wasn't trying to bring up our current streak of losses didn't he?

Anyway, I wish they would change things up a big, I don't see Martin as the solution to our mediocrity. Unfortunately, the guy we DID need went to Tampa Bay and is kicking ass over there.

Protest the Hero 10-16-2011 10:56 AM

I'm not on the fire Martin bandwagon but considering this is the only thread we have about possible coaching changes I'll post in here.

In this day and age is it possible that Montreal hires an English coach? Let's say they hire Muller, is he required to hire at least one French language assistant coach?

Also, Boucher is gone, he's not leaving Tampa, there's really no point in talking about him anymore. There's an out of town thread if you want to talk about how good he is.

Canadiens1958 10-16-2011 10:57 AM

Martin Raymond
 
Tampa Bay assistant and former McGill coach, Martin Raymond would be available and the best choice.

Et le But 10-16-2011 10:57 AM

Muller and Martin Raymond are two interesting ideas, if it reached the point where Martin had to be fired Muller would probably be the best bet since he could at least motivate the team, while Raymond did a great job in developing McGill's hockey program and seems to be a big part of Boucher's system, though if it was a mid-season change an ex-Hab like Muller might be the bettr option.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTL-rules (Post 38003203)
He's there to stay... as long as Boucher is still in TB (which could take a long time...)

The same Boucher whose team currently has a near identical record to the Habs, with the worse defensive record in the league so far?

Le Tricolore 10-16-2011 10:59 AM

Plekanec would be a player/coach.

habs03 10-16-2011 11:01 AM

JM signed a 4 year contract, so he still has one more year after this season.

SAKS AVENUE 10-16-2011 11:04 AM

I can honestly say I'm not a huge fan of our line-up. Even if we were in first place, it's such a floaty finesse team, without a whole lot of finesse that's exciting to watch.

I'd love to crash hard this year and get a top five pick. Suck in another teams first pick by trading someone like Cammy and/or Andrei plus.

Fire Martin and bring in a couple of hard nosed Chris Neil types. In a year or two Gallagher and Belly-You will be ready with Tinordi. That could be fun......

Non?

It's going to be a long year regardless. We are just too middle of the pack......Oh well

Bring Tremblay back.....hahahahahaha

MrRoundtree 10-16-2011 11:06 AM

May sound stupid but I would try everything to convince Roy to come coach either in the AHL or the NHL...

As for the draft, depending on the stats at the end of the eyar, if Grigorenko is not too far off from Yakupov I would take Grigorenko. I don't think we are gonna finish last anyway lol, we should end up between 5-10 as usual in the east. I would try to trade an asset for another 1st-round pick though, it is really a deep draft with lots of talent.

But having Grigorenko and Roy would be amazing...

Andros777 10-16-2011 11:07 AM

I always thought Andy Murray was a good coach, I'd at least give him an interview. I agree with above poster though that the composition of the team needs to change a bit.

DekeLikeYouMeanIt 10-16-2011 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAKS AVENUE (Post 38006237)
I can honestly say I'm not a huge fan of our line-up. Even if we were in first place, it's such a floaty finesse team, without a whole lot of finesse that's exciting to watch.

I'd love to crash hard this year and get a top five pick. Suck in another teams first pick by trading someone like Cammy and/or Andrei plus.

Fire Martin and bring in a couple of hard nosed Chris Neil types. In a year or two Gallagher and Belly-You will be ready with Tinordi. That could be fun......

Non?

It's going to be a long year regardless. We are just too middle of the pack......Oh well

Bring Tremblay back.....hahahahahaha

I'd be royally pissed if you ever become GM. The "coach must speak French" unwritten rule is absurd and I hope it's destroyed soon. Regardless, there aren't many available now. I don't know if Muller is good enough to be head coach at the highest level... yet.

McTusk 10-16-2011 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le Tricolore (Post 38006105)
Plekanec would be a player/coach.

Post of the week, maybe month. :yo:

:laugh:

SakuSauce 10-16-2011 11:38 AM

Michel Therrien

sheed36 10-16-2011 11:46 AM

Since we all seem to know more than JM I say we have a poll of all the members of this board and whoever gets the most votes coaches the Habs.. :sarcasm:

Dr_Hook 10-16-2011 11:50 AM

Not a candidate I would like us to ever hire AT ALL, but the name of Pascal Vincent now assisting with the Jets would surely be thrown around quite a bit.

I too am very tired of the idea of the mandatory french speaking coach. It shrinks the reservoir of candidates to almost zero : which coach has some NHL experience and speaks french (besides those we already had) Bob Hartley ? Can't think of anyone of consequence...

It basically condemns us to hire a rookie from junior. Clearly impedes our ability to progress as an organisation. It's sad really...

Craig71 10-16-2011 11:52 AM

My pick for coach would be Larry Robinson. I also hope Martin can get this thing on track and remain as coach. The coach(staff) are not the problem, it is no Markov,No Campoli and lack of disipline that is the cause of our early troubles.

Mathradio 10-16-2011 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le Tricolore (Post 38006105)
Plekanec would be a player/coach.

How would Plekanec coach the team? An offensive system? A defensive system? An 1-3-1 system?

AntonCH 10-16-2011 11:57 AM

Pierre Mcguire
Now wouldn't that be fun...................


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