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Iron Balls McGinty 10-21-2011 07:34 AM

My official make Vinny Prospal Captain Thread
 
Prospal Questions Jacket's Hunger

This guy gets it. I wish the rest of our team's "leadership" would get it too.

This is exactly why he is one of the team's leading scorers. He works for every point he gets.

St1ngr 10-21-2011 07:37 AM

Prospal Interview: Nationwide Arena Country Club
 
http://www.bluejacketsxtra.com/conte...ts-hunger.html

This kind of talk - calling out the heart of the team - won't win Vinny many new friends in the dressing room, but I for one appreciate it.

0-5-1 and mailing it in through practice?

Three things need to be done:
1. Fire Howson for creating/propagating such an atmosphere
2. Fire Arneil for not bag skating these pansies more often
3. Strip Nash's "C" or just trade him. He is the President of the Nationwide Arena Country Club and ultimately responsible for this atmosphere.

...or maybe the players will be sufficiently embarrassed by this (as they should be) and start to play like real NHL players for a change. Clearly though if this attitude continues (as it has for several years) only a big detonation of the team's core and the recruitment of players who sufficiently care about winning will change anything. Painful change, yes, but how many coaching regimes, systems can the CBJ go through with this current player leadership core? Why should the next coach/system be any different?

If the team's demeanor does not change, this should be Nash's last season in Columbus.

Fro 10-21-2011 07:45 AM

he just shot up to #2 on my current favorite jacket list...the man gets it...welcome vinny...

kshymkiw 10-21-2011 07:50 AM

Props to Vinny. He is a guy who everyone should be respecting.

I think a lot of us have said it on these boards, that the CBJ seem lazy, most nights. And the nights, they don't look lazy it is the same tired excuse of "If we keep competing, we are bound to win sometime". I don't want to hear that excuse, I want to hear "Losing is unacceptable, and we are going to go out and practice our ***** off tomorrow, so we don't lose like this again".

I have said for a while now, Nash should not have the C, period. Your most talented players, aren't always your best leaders. Nash is just not a good leader.

BluejacketNut 10-21-2011 08:11 AM

Now THATS a sign of a leader....and maybe Arniel should take note. Arniel seemed to make some of those 'ohh, we played better and competed' excuses, where Vinny is saying F that, we lost the game....who cares if we have 100 shots if we lose the game!

The one thing I had hoped that Arniel was going to bring, was the attention to detail, to most importantly PASSING! Doesnt sound like I got that wish

CBJCougar 10-21-2011 08:13 AM

Definitely a good read on Prospal. Highlights weak links in our leadership for not instilling a good work ethic. However, I consider those coaching issues. I think it most definitely is an ongoing issue with the team but my experience is that human nature is to do as little as possible as long as it's comfortable. Time to make it uncomfortable...

Zoo16 10-21-2011 08:19 AM

I like his honesty, but let's not get ahead of ourselves and just give him the C.

5StringBuzz 10-21-2011 08:21 AM

The fact that a statement like this comes from a player other than the team captain says a lot about the captain. This is really a direct indictment of Nash's leadership. I'm glad we have someone willing to speak directly and critically about the team's poor work ethic, and it explains a lot. I don't advocate trading Nash, as some have suggested, but if he can't set the standard for all-out effort and take his teammates to task for anything less that maximum effort (and in such a way that everybody knows to expect that kind of accountability), then he should give up the "C."

DerDrache 10-21-2011 08:34 AM

Man, Vinny may have just become my new favorite Jacket. Let's throw a 1 year extension at him.

Iron Balls McGinty 10-21-2011 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoo16 (Post 38250949)
I like his honesty, but let's not get ahead of ourselves and just give him the C.

Well, what we have right now is working so well to motivate the team. Nash is too quiet to motivate them. Somebody needed to call them out publicly and I hope the rest of the team gets embarrassed by their lack of work ethic getting called out. I wish we had a vocal leader who got on his teammates about this type of stuff because it has gone on far too long.

I'm actually glad that Atkinson and Calvert got sent down now to get them away from the circle of suck.

The sad part is, because he is on a 1 year deal, he'll be gone by the trade deadline if this team continues to suck.

IBleedUnionBlue 10-21-2011 08:36 AM

I've been a longstanding fan of Prospal. I think he should be wearing a A in the place of Carter or Vermette.

blahblah 10-21-2011 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBJCougar (Post 38250801)
Definitely a good read on Prospal. Highlights weak links in our leadership for not instilling a good work ethic. However, I consider those coaching issues.

Coaching is certainly part of it, yes. We have issues in the 3rd period and it's not conditioning as they've claimed in the past. Those things could certainly come from how you practice and the coaching.

Quote:

I think it most definitely is an ongoing issue with the team but my experience is that human nature is to do as little as possible as long as it's comfortable. Time to make it uncomfortable...
You know I agree.

Interesting take from Prospal. It's interesting that after six games he's willing to talk like this. It's a fresh perspective.

blahblah 10-21-2011 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IBleedUnionBlue (Post 38251321)
I've been a log standing fan of Prospal. I think he should be wearing a A in the place of Carter or Vermette.

Wiz and Prospal look like good choices. Maybe it's time to find someone from outside of the expected crowd as well.

IBleedUnionBlue 10-21-2011 08:40 AM

I've also complained about the players playing soft before. But my idea to wave pink panties at them last New Years eve was soundly rejected.

Hipster Letestu 10-21-2011 08:41 AM

Single-handedly working to redeem the #22 in the eyes of Blue Jackets fans :handclap:

blahblah 10-21-2011 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IBleedUnionBlue (Post 38251423)
I've also complained about the players playing soft before. But my idea to wave pink panties at them last New Years eve was soundly rejected.

And for very good reasons....

Nordique 10-21-2011 08:41 AM

Nash is the captain, and the right man for that job.

Prospal is a leader, a veteran, and he is doing what veterans should do, light a fire under some *****. He was a great signing, and if he stays healthy he could put up some tough numbers this year, but he is not a good candidate for Capt.

Dr. Fire 10-21-2011 08:42 AM

Prospal is a long-time veteran who has played with a lot of big name players. When he speaks to the team they better listen. He knows what he is talking about.

Everyone should be thanking him right now for speaking his mind.

blahblah 10-21-2011 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nordique (Post 38251447)
Nash is the captain, and the right man for that job.

He is? You are entitled to that opinion, but I haven't seen much evidence to support that. Players seem willing to follow, but where is he leading? The world has had it's fair share of crappy leaders that people were willing to follow.

We could have an issue where everyone wants and expects him to be the captain.

Quote:

Prospal is a leader, a veteran, and he is doing what veterans should do, light a fire under some *****. He was a great signing, and if he stays healthy he could put up some tough numbers this year, but he is not a good candidate for Capt.
Well his age and contract is an issue, but is there another reason?

blahblah 10-21-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Fire (Post 38251475)
Prospal is a long-time veteran who has played with a lot of big name players. When he speaks to the team they better listen. He knows what he is talking about.

The first few words had me interested. You lost me as you went on. Playing with big name players doesn't mean you know what you are talking about or that they should listen to you.

Whether this listen should be based on the message. This message looks good.

Quote:

Everyone should be thanking him right now for speaking his mind.
Thanking him? Depends on what you mean by that. Did the fans need to hear it? Well that depends on his motives. It certainly doesn't hurt the players to hear it, as long as they don't tune him out at some point.

Matt 10-21-2011 08:50 AM

If you pay attention to how these players go through practices, Vinny is dead on. I have watched this team practice over the years and regardless of who is coaching, these players just go through the motions. No one really puts a lot of effort into the drills. As I have said before, it isn't the 8 new players, it is the 10 to 12 holdovers that are the problem.

jacketsinDC 10-21-2011 08:53 AM

strip the C, strip the As. make Prospal the CAA and lets do this.

Fred Glover 10-21-2011 08:55 AM

After reading the article my first reaction was: WOW. Vinny gets it. Many of us have been harping on the lack of effort and intensity evident in the play of the Jackets. And today, while driving to work and listening to Home Ice XM92, Pierre McGuire calls Benn's "goal of the year" the "quit of the year" as Pierre said: "Both Johnson and Russell looked liked they were caught in quicksand and Nash and Brassard quit on the play." Pierre went on to say that Nash was not a quitter but needed to pick it up. Vinny gets it. Some in the national media see it. Now fix it, please!

Now there are many ways to fix the problem: Up the compete level, as players and coaches and front office bring it every day and every night. Other things can be done. I am not advocating one thing over another, just fix the problem.

CBJCougar 10-21-2011 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blahblah (Post 38251419)
Wiz and Prospal look like good choices. Maybe it's time to find someone from outside of the expected crowd as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IBleedUnionBlue (Post 38251321)
I've been a log standing fan of Prospal. I think he should be wearing a A in the place of Carter or Vermette.

I'm all for this idea. Strip every one of the A's off the sweaters. We need new leadership. How many do we have? Four? Wiz, Prospal, Carter and Tyutin.


Quote:

Originally Posted by IBleedUnionBlue (Post 38251423)
I've also complained about the players playing soft before. But my idea to wave pink panties at them last New Years eve was soundly rejected.

Oh Lord. LOL!!

pete goegan 10-21-2011 09:02 AM

This is a scathing indictment of the team leadership and, especially, the captain. Not only Nash, though, doesn't this team have a "heart and soul" who never quits and never accepts losing? Where's everyone's favorite Buckeye when all this loafing is going on? How about the other vets - Vermette, Pahlsson, Methot, etc.? Don't these guys have any investment in winning hockey? Wouldn't one think that a coach or two might have considered a reward/punishment system for practice effort? Most coaching staff at the grade school level have discovered the usefulness of such a tool.

This whole thing stinks and I'm just not sure where the blame for it lies, nor do I really care. Fix it. Unless, of course, they find a way to play winning hockey without practicing with intensity. So far, the secret to that appears to have eluded them, so they may as well give up and resort to what has proven successful for every winning team in every other sport - hard work (as difficult as that seems to be for them to understand).


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