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Eytinge 11-04-2011 01:08 AM

Is Clowe the best non-heavyweight fighter in the NHL?
 
I think he might be. He's just a beast, has 2 recorded losses over his last 25 fights. He can go toe to toe with some of the legit heavyweights in the NHL too.




Oppa 11-04-2011 01:19 AM

He's the most functional fighter if that means anything

Bank Shot 11-04-2011 01:38 AM

Yea, probably him or Sheldon Souray.

Lucic is pretty decent too. Nathan Horton seems to clobber everyone whenever he fights as well.

TheNorthFace 11-04-2011 01:49 AM

If I had to pick, yeah I'd say Clowe.

Dylonus 11-04-2011 02:15 AM

He didn't beat Engelland in that fight, someone who has proven himself as a fighter moreso than Clowe.

I'd still take Engelland.

CanadianHockey 11-04-2011 02:32 AM

Neil should be in this discussion. Not a heavyweight himself but he can go toe-to-toe with them.

GreatGonzo 11-04-2011 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylonus (Post 38948627)
He didn't beat Engelland in that fight, someone who has proven himself as a fighter moreso than Clowe.

I'd still take Engelland.

It was a close fight, i would call it a draw. England threw more but they weren't connecting, they both connected the same amount of punches. Neither had full control of the fight.

Danish Pastry 11-04-2011 04:02 AM

he is for sure up there... just hate to see him off the ice at time for 5 min... but he doesnt go after jokes he goes after the big guys and shows the team what they need to do...


i love that guy...

Danish Pastry 11-04-2011 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kawaii (Post 38947641)
He's the most functional fighter if that means anything

nice little article and i agree 100%...

sub_zero94 11-04-2011 05:15 AM

as a Shark fan, the first time I noticed how much of a beast Clowe was, was during an Anaheim SJ game. Anaheim was pretty much dominationg, and Shawn Thornton took a run at Marleau, and Clowe answered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O85g9cXQPyM&feature=fvst
the game turned after that point

Nachoman AlfieSavage* 11-04-2011 07:56 AM

I don't think most of the posters in this thread have any clue what a heavyweight is. A guy who is 6'2" and 225 lbs is a heavyweight.

Fire Julien 11-04-2011 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sub_zero94 (Post 38949947)
as a Shark fan, the first time I noticed how much of a beast Clowe was, was during an Anaheim SJ game. Anaheim was pretty much dominationg, and Shawn Thornton took a run at Marleau, and Clowe answered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O85g9cXQPyM&feature=fvst
the game turned after that point

Thornton is the same guy who gets beat by Rupp, gets KO'd by Carcillo and has no punching power. Let's see him go with a real fighter of his size, say McGrattan, and he won't be beastly. Good player and fighter though, just not that great.

BeLeafer11 11-04-2011 08:03 AM

Clowe is a heavyweight. Mike Brown is definitely in contention for best non-heavyweight fighter.

wej20 11-04-2011 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SharkLoc91 (Post 38948913)
It was a close fight, i would call it a draw. England threw more but they weren't connecting, they both connected the same amount of punches. Neither had full control of the fight.

Engelland threw more and landed slightly more along with giving Clowe a nice shiner. Clowe's freak strength meant that he was able to stop Engelland from landing more clean punches.


Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyWarCloud (Post 38951621)
I don't think most of the posters in this thread have any clue what a heavyweight is. A guy who is 6'2" and 225 lbs is a heavyweight.

I tend to agree, he definitely has heavyweight strength maybe not true heavyweight punching power but enough to throw down with pretty much everyone in the league.

jpstfx28 11-04-2011 09:44 AM

clowe is the man

BruinsBtn 11-04-2011 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeLeafer11 (Post 38951743)
Clowe is a heavyweight. Mike Brown is definitely in contention for best non-heavyweight fighter.

Not even top-20.

Dont Hinder Jinder 11-04-2011 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bank Shot (Post 38948089)
Yea, probably him or Sheldon Souray.

^
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Mr. Glass-Hand? :laugh:

On a serious note, yes, clowe is definitely a good fighter

jbeck5 11-04-2011 10:22 AM

Clowe is 225 pounds! He IS a heavyweight.

And for the guy who said him or sheldon souray. SERIOUSLY? souray is 6'4,223. He's a heavyweight.

Non heavy weight is smaller then 210-215 pounds. Someone who's 6'0,205 is a non heavyweight...not someone who's 6'3,227...

People on these boards sometimes...:shakehead

Within clowe's weight class, he isn't anywhere near the best. Far from it in fact.

jbeck5 11-04-2011 10:24 AM

Matt carkner is only 4 pounds heavier then clowe...so i say carkner is a better lightweight then clowe... colton orr is 5 pounds lighter then clowe...orr>>> clowe...

This thread is so stupid.

Eytinge 11-04-2011 10:33 AM

Wow some people need to relax. Maybe non-enforcer would have been a better choice of words, but you know what I meant.

68 11-04-2011 10:44 AM

Some people use fighting ability vs size to determinate heavyweights you know..
Tie Domi who was only 5.10 207 could be considered an heavyweight because he fought anybody. Milan Lucic who is 6.4 220 I would consider a Light-Heavyweight because despite his size he doesn't fight real heavyweights that often.

jbeck5 11-04-2011 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eytinge (Post 38956017)
Wow some people need to relax. Maybe non-enforcer would have been a better choice of words, but you know what I meant.

That's all cool and dandy. No worries.

Just for future cases... "heavyweight" is a term gotten from boxing inferring about their weight, and nothing else. Not their fighting skill. Not how often they fight. Not who they fight. Weight only.

You can't just go around changing the meaning of the word. For example, in UFC, heavyweight is 205-265 lbs.

Though in UFC the weight seems to be skewed down too much in the light weights.

I would generally say in the nhl...

199 and under= lightweight
200-219= middleweight
220 and over= heavyweight

I'm sure most would agree ROUGHLY with those classes.

macleod50 11-04-2011 10:52 AM

As 68 pointed out, it's not all based on weight when it comes to hockey fights. Domi is the best example of being a smaller guy who could be classified as a heavy. Go to hockeyfights.com and say Clowe is a heavyweight and prepared to get laughed off the board.

And Souray is a damn good fighter for a guy that doesn't do it often.

Cujomi 11-04-2011 11:02 AM

Chris Neil is the best borderline non-heavyweight.

wej20 11-04-2011 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJam613 (Post 38957213)
Chris Neil is the best borderline non-heavyweight.

Does Engelland count as a borderline non-heavyweight? he weighs a few pounds less than Neil.


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