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FreshPerspective 11-08-2011 03:02 PM

Terry Murray on the chopping block and thoughts on bringing him back to Philly?
 
Just throwing this out there b/c of the intrigue that could be created if Murray is let go...pretty ironic if he is. Kings have been peasants of late...

I wouldn't be against bringing him back to this organization in some capacity as insurance if Lavy poops the bed here....of course it assumes he leaves the Kings organization altogether as well.

Edit: or any other people you would like who may be on the block or out there...

Quote:

Terry Murray, Los Angeles Kings


Murray's always been a tough one to figure. He obviously has found success with this team in the last two seasons, getting the Kings to the playoffs twice. After their loss to the Sharks on Monday night, the Kings are 6-5-3 on the year, with 15 points and the No. 8 seed in the West. They're an average team … built to be an elite team in the offseason.

Via Helene Elliott of the LA Times:

"To those calling for Terry Murray's firing: Lombardi has been very loyal to him, didn't waver thru 2-10 slump last season, but this is supposed to be a better team. They're spending near cap for first time. I have to think a jolt of some kind is coming."

There have been calls to fire Terry Murray here and there for the last year, but it's been hard to establish why it should happen. Most of the criticism is theoretical: This team is better on paper than it is on the ice, so therefore it's the coach's fault.

Come to think of it, that's why Ken Hitchcock is now in St. Louis …

Kings blogger Bobby Scribe tried to quantify one of Murray's greatest shortcomings, which is his offensive philosophy on shooting the puck. Check out this diagnosis on what ails the Kings.

Quisp from Jewels From The Crown writes this:

When Murray is "happy" with the Kings' game (as he was with the Pens loss) and when he writes off a loss to "not getting the bounces," I'm starting to think that these things aren't empty platitudes. Because his whole methodology/strategy/whatever appears to be based on playing percentages, the law of averages...bounces. Sometimes the bounces go your way (you win) and sometimes they go the other way (you lose).

Quisp also writes that Marc Crawford and Andy Murray would be better coaches for this team.

Yeah, it's gotten that bad for some Kings fans.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...rn=nhl-wp16947

Hockeypete49 11-08-2011 03:17 PM

In what capacity would you have him fill? I would not want him back unless it had something to do with scouting and only if he came knocking on the Flyer's door asking for a job. Plus (even if they are not required to do so) I would discuss his hiring with Lavi first.

dbr2 11-08-2011 03:22 PM

I'd like him to be an assistant but that is about it. Lavi isn't going anywhere.

FreshPerspective 11-08-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hockeypete49 (Post 39140405)
In what capacity would you have him fill? I would not want him back unless it had something to do with scouting and only if he came knocking on the Flyer's door asking for a job. Plus (even if they are not required to do so) I would discuss his hiring with Lavi first.

Yeah a scout maybe or some other carved out role in the organization..not like we haven't done that before. I wouldn't worry too much about massaging Lavi's ego although I agree it would be kind of a shot across the bow but Snider apparently is in a no dung mood and I don't think he cares if he lines up a possible successor and I don't think he should care. Lavi can dish it out and he has to be willing to receive it back although you don't want to undermine him among his subordinates either...so yeah it would be a dicey move but I think Murray would be much better suited for this team right now..then you can bring a Lavi type back in a few years....:sarcasm:

I just don't ever want to see a Stevens type again! Murray is more in the middle and he's great with young players especially D men and international types. Thought he got a raw deal when he was called out for saying the team choked....

Gert B Frobe 11-08-2011 04:38 PM

I just hate his tough guy look he has when shenanigans are taking place on the ice. He gets this "why I oughtta..." look kind of like a sedated Tortorella. Can't stand either of them.

Not interested in Murray. I want the Flyers next coach (when Laviolette retires afte winning 2-3 cups in Philly) to be Paul Maurice.

Beef Invictus 11-08-2011 04:41 PM

If he gets fired wouldn't Columbus immediately offer him a HC position?

Hockeypete49 11-08-2011 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Invictus (Post 39143095)
If he gets fired wouldn't Columbus immediately offer him a HC position?

You would think.

Snipsnap12 11-08-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hockeypete49 (Post 39147831)
You would think.

Marc crawford should already be behind the bench for them.

RJ8812 11-08-2011 06:51 PM

why? we already have our coaching staff. no one deserves to be fired.

lancer247 11-08-2011 08:38 PM

if anything you would bring him back as an asst coach to work with the d. That's his area of strength, however, Lavy is loyal to McCarthy as that was his only condition wwhen he took the job. He agreed to keep Berube on but wanted McCarthy.

Homer just ovrhauled the team to fit Lavys style I doubt they are considering anything but a long relationship with him here.

GoneFullHextall 11-09-2011 12:32 AM

let him stay in LA and keep his "choking thing" attitude there.


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