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ObsessedCreative 11-10-2011 03:26 PM

NIKLAS HAGMAN (on re-entry waivers)?!
 
http://capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=179

UFA at the end of the year. I kind of always though he would be a pretty decent fit on the wing, but not at 3 million / year.

Would you take a chance on him on re-entry waiver at 1.5 mil cap hit?!

Personally I would like to see what he can do. Worse comes to worse send him down, and call back up Park or Jeffery or whoever is to be sent down to clear the space.

What do you think?

mpp9 11-10-2011 03:34 PM

No room. Park won't clear waivers. And I doubt Jeffrey stays down in WBS long. Wouldn't mind taking on another reclamation project. From what I understand he plays a hard two way game, just hasn't been consistent offensively.

Jag68Sid87 11-10-2011 03:44 PM

Have you actually watched Hagman play since he left Toronto? Hell, since he left Dallas!

clefty 11-10-2011 03:50 PM

I think you haven't thought this through at all.

SEALBound 11-10-2011 03:53 PM

No room...see Letestu.

ObsessedCreative 11-10-2011 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEALBound (Post 39238021)
No room...see Letestu.

Send down Mac, Jeffery, & park. Room for him, kennedy and sid when they all come back.

ObsessedCreative 11-10-2011 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jag68Sid87 (Post 39237575)
Have you actually watched Hagman play since he left Toronto? Hell, since he left Dallas!

Still had two 20 goal seasons in TO...

mpp9 11-10-2011 03:58 PM

Park was sent down?

mpp9 11-10-2011 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ObsessedCreative (Post 39238225)
Still had two 20 goal seasons in TO...

So did Poni my friend. He's someone that's going to have to get prime ice time to get max. return on his skill. Doubt he sees that here, but if we had room for him, I wouldn't mind adding some skill to the wing position.

Sidney the Kidney 11-10-2011 04:12 PM

Why are some fans so desperate to bring in players that aren't even good enough to crack the lineup of inferior teams?

clefty 11-10-2011 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ObsessedCreative (Post 39238117)
Send down Mac, Jeffery, & park. Room for him, kennedy and sid when they all come back.

You mean, give Park and Jeffrey to other teams' via waivers.

And for what? Niklas Hagman?

ObsessedCreative 11-10-2011 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clefty (Post 39237857)
I think you haven't thought this through at all.

EDIT: that was weird your posted disappeared for a bit then came back, haha

ObsessedCreative 11-10-2011 04:21 PM

Park and Jeffery are both on two way deals and won't be susceptible to waiver, or do I have this wrong someone want to clarify?!

clefty 11-10-2011 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ObsessedCreative (Post 39239103)
Park and Jeffery are both on two way deals and won't be susceptible to waiver, or do I have this wrong someone want to clarify?!

It boggles my mind that people still think this.

Comes right back to what I first said. You have not thought this through.

Sidney the Kidney 11-10-2011 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ObsessedCreative (Post 39239103)
Park and Jeffery are both on two way deals and won't be susceptible to waiver, or do I have this wrong someone want to clarify?!

Two-way contracts have absolutely zero to do with waiver eligibility. It simply refers to them having a two different salaries: a salary for when they're in the NHL and a salary for when they're in the AHL.

Darth Vitale 11-10-2011 04:37 PM

Would not be a useful addition to this team.

ObsessedCreative 11-10-2011 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidney the Kidney (Post 39239215)
Two-way contracts have absolutely zero to do with waiver eligibility. It simply refers to them having a two different salaries: a salary for when they're in the NHL and a salary for when they're in the AHL.

Care to set it straight for me then, being susceptible to waivers is that a year(s) in the league, contract structure, etc.

How is it tangradi can get called up and sent down no problem, but jeffery can't etc. Very fuzzy stuff for me any help would be cool.

thanks

ObsessedCreative 11-10-2011 04:44 PM

Never mind just gauging peoples thoughts and doesn't see to be a popular one, and Tangradi was just called up today too.

JTG 11-10-2011 04:47 PM

Park and Jeffrey are waiver eligible. Tangradi is not yet.

Fogel 11-10-2011 04:49 PM

Age, years of experience and games played thresholds. Players become waiver eligible anytime any of the thresholds are met.

Edit: One way and two way contracts only affect compensation and have no effect on waiver status.

ObsessedCreative 11-10-2011 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fogel (Post 39240253)
Age, years of experience and games played thresholds. Players become waiver eligible anytime any of the thresholds are met.

Edit: One way and two way contracts only affect compensation and have no effect on waiver status.

Excellent thanks for clearing that up, I always thought that two-way contracts were usually not susceptible to being picked off waivers.

Sidney the Kidney 11-10-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ObsessedCreative (Post 39239979)
Care to set it straight for me then, being susceptible to waivers is that a year(s) in the league, contract structure, etc.

How is it tangradi can get called up and sent down no problem, but jeffery can't etc. Very fuzzy stuff for me any help would be cool.

thanks

This seems to be a straight forward guide:

Quote:

This is the meat and potatoes of determining waiver eligibility. Three key factors determine whether a player is waiver eligible; age, years of experience, and # of games played..

Age is defined as the age of the player when he signs his entry-level contract with an NHL club. This is used to determine the thresholds for the players' waiver eligibility. The thresholds are the number of years from signing a professional contract, and the number of professional games played.

Depending on the age as determined above, a player is waiver eligible for a certain number of years from the year in which he signed his first contract, as shown below.

Goalies Skaters
Age Years Age Years
18 6* 18 5*
19 5* 19 4*
20 4 20 3
21 4 21 3
22 4 22 3
23 3 23 3
24 2 24 2
25+ 1 25+ 1

For anyone 20 or older, the year in which they play their first professional game is considered the first year counting towards the number of years they are exempt from waivers.

*If an 18 or 19 year old plays in 11 or more NHL games in a season, then the eligible period drops to 4 years for a goalie and 3 years for a skater, with the first year of that period being the year in which the player played 11 or more games.

(Example: Nazem Kadri & John Tavares both signed their first NHL contract as 18 year olds. However, Tavares has played more than 11 games as an 18 year-old. Therefore, Tavares is now waiver-exempt for 4 years (this year, and the 3 ensuing years), while Kadri is waiver-exempt for 6 (this year and the 5 ensuing, although this could change if he plays next season).

The other factor is games played. Once a player reaches the threshold (again based on the age at which they signed their first professional contract), they are eligible for waivers. The language of the CBA is very clear that while there are two distinct thresholds, this is an "earliest of" scenario. If a player reaches their games played mark before the reach the years mark (or vice versa), they become eligible for waivers.

Goalies Skaters
Age Games Age Games
18 80 18 160
19 80 19 160
20 80 20 160
21 60 21 80
22 60 22 70
23 60 23 60
24 60 24 60
25+ 25+
*Source

Edit: Couldn't get the columns to line up properly.

ObsessedCreative 11-10-2011 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidney the Kidney (Post 39240411)
This seems to be a straight forward guide:



*Source

Edit: Couldn't get the columns to line up properly.

Awesome man thanks for the heads up! :handclap:

Dan Barr 11-10-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidney the Kidney (Post 39240411)
This seems to be a straight forward guide:



*Source

Edit: Couldn't get the columns to line up properly.

That stuff should be stickied.

JTG 11-10-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Barr (Post 39240967)
That stuff should be stickied.

Agreed


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