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Firestorm 11-12-2011 09:45 AM

Boyes for Stoll (LA)?
 
Who would be for/against that idea?

The salary is a bit of a wash, which is a bonus.

ZZamboni 11-12-2011 09:50 AM

Why would LA trade Stoll?

Zip15 11-12-2011 09:52 AM

Can't see LA doing it. I do think they'd offer Penner for Boyes, but not sure I'd take that.

Firestorm 11-12-2011 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZZamboni (Post 39318487)
Why would LA trade Stoll?

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=1027451

Bottom of the page.

ZZamboni 11-12-2011 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustAnotherHockeyFan (Post 39318559)

No no no. Why would LA trade Stoll? Not, why would a HFBoards poster trade Stoll :laugh:

AlexanderMogilny89 11-12-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zip15 (Post 39318529)
Can't see LA doing it. I do think they'd offer Penner for Boyes, but not sure I'd take that.

I like Penners size though.

He is Height: 6-4 Weight: 245

Beerz 11-12-2011 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexanderMogilny89 (Post 39320621)
I like Penners size though.

He is Height: 6-4 Weight: 245


What good is size if you don't use it?

Firestorm 11-12-2011 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZZamboni (Post 39318623)
No no no. Why would LA trade Stoll? Not, why would a HFBoards poster trade Stoll :laugh:

Oh I'm sorry, this isn't reality? ;)

AlexanderMogilny89 11-12-2011 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerz (Post 39320885)
What good is size if you don't use it?

He had 23 goals and 22 assists last year between 2 teams. he did end up with a -12 though. 55 points is not bad in my opinion. He is a left wing though and we dont need a left wing. We need a CENTER.

Evgeni Giroux 11-12-2011 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexanderMogilny89 (Post 39321057)
He had 23 goals and 22 assists last year between 2 teams. he did end up with a -12 though. 55 points is not bad in my opinion. He is a left wing though and we dont need a left wing. We need a CENTER.

we don't need a center either

LGB24 11-12-2011 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1972sabres (Post 39321139)
we don't need a center either

as much as everyone has been dying for a center I dont think we need one right now either. Unless it's a legit number 1 center we're fine with adam's emergence and Pominville has been on fire in the faceoff cicle

joshjull 11-12-2011 12:56 PM

I like Stoll but don't see a fit at the moment.


and a no ****ing way for Penner.

dire wolf 11-12-2011 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshjull (Post 39323087)
I like Stoll but don't see a fit at the moment.


and a no ****ing way for Penner.

word up

omglolnub 11-12-2011 10:45 PM

now Stoll has a fit for the team...

static80 11-12-2011 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omglolnub (Post 39353875)
now Stoll has a fit for the team...

Agreed, Stoll would be a good fit here in Buffalo in my opinion as well.

And I would trade Boyes for him.

Zip15 11-12-2011 10:56 PM

Again, why does LA make this move? Stoll is a perfect 3C for them.

jfb392 11-12-2011 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zip15 (Post 39354585)
Again, why does LA make this move? Stoll is a perfect 3C for them.

They obviously want to help the Sabres out.

ZZamboni 11-12-2011 10:58 PM

I am still waiting for a logical truthful reason why LA would do that trade. Anyone?

SabresFanNorthPortFL 11-12-2011 10:59 PM

In a second. In fact I'd sweeten the deal with one of our seconds. In a second.

Zip15 11-12-2011 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SabresFanNorthPortFL (Post 39354853)
In a second. In fact I'd sweeten the deal with one of our seconds. In a second.

But not Pominville. ;)

(I'll be nice and not link that thread.)

slip 11-12-2011 11:07 PM

Folks, this is the Pegula era. We no longer have to content ourselves with seeking out the best available third line center. We have need right at the top between Vanek and Pominville; get a center that can unleash some offense.

Aim higher.

static80 11-12-2011 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slip (Post 39355469)
Folks, this is the Pegula era. We no longer have to content ourselves with seeking out the best available third line center. We have need right at the top between Vanek and Pominville; get a center that can unleash some offense.

Aim higher.

I agree with this as well.

jfb392 11-12-2011 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slip (Post 39355469)
Folks, this is the Pegula era. We no longer have to content ourselves with seeking out the best available third line center. We have need right at the top between Vanek and Pominville; get a center that can unleash some offense.

Aim higher.

There's really no point in getting into this debate again, but we'd likely have to give up one of them to get a #1 center.

You don't trade for or sign a #1 usually, you draft them.

Zip15 11-12-2011 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slip (Post 39355469)
Folks, this is the Pegula era. We no longer have to content ourselves with seeking out the best available third line center. We have need right at the top between Vanek and Pominville; get a center that can unleash some offense.

Aim higher.

Put together a realistic proposal for a #1 center that the other team would accept and would keep us under the salary cap.

slip 11-12-2011 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zip15 (Post 39356023)
Put together a realistic proposal for a #1 center that the other team would accept and would keep us under the salary cap.

I just feel the Stoll idea stems from the penny pinching Golisano era; realistically what do we need another 3rd line center for? Between Goose and eventually (hopefully) Hecht that area is nicely covered. Not to mention LA seemingly lacking motivation to make this trade.

As far as putting together a realistic trade, I can't think of anybody off the top of my head. Sure there's obvious targets like Brassard or Vermette, but each is a dog with different set of fleas. The reality is I have no idea what players are available at any given time, and their cost. Could you have predicted Byron and Butler for Regher?

I do think guys like Stafford, Sekera, and Ennis can be used as pieces to bring in a solid second line type center. My confidence in Adam has nosedived over the past couple weeks. But if we're going to improve the position, let's do it right and get someone who can produce like a top 6 center.


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