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palindrom 11-21-2011 01:50 PM

A player's clone ! - A proposal game..try it!
 
After years of research i finally found a way to clone NHL players.

So here is the deal, i can trade you a perfect clone (age and contract) of a player in your current lineup. But you need trade me back an equally valuable asset/package from your lineup, prospect or pick (i need their body parts to make the clone).

Rules:

- The cloning process is not 100% guarantee, his success rate is directly proportional to the quality of the asset/package you will trade for it.


- A failure to the Cloning process will result in the opposite effect: The player you want cloned will be loss and instead you will get a clone of the player(s)/package you traded to make the clone.



- i cant clone a player from another team than your. But any clone can be traded after the process.

- I can make only one clone of a given player. And i cant use a clone to make another clone.

- I cant clone a package, choose one player at time.

- It need to fit under the caps.

- im not judging any proposal, they are all valid to be used for the cloning process. I simply use an algorithm to output the success % rate of the cloning process and wait for the randomly decided result. Remember: the success % rate is proportional to the quality of your proposal.


Here is two examples:

1. Cloning request: Subban for Paciorretti............

Result: Success you got a Clone of Subban.

2. Cloning Request: Crosby for Matt Cooke + 2nd

Result: Failure, Crosby is lost forever, but you got a clone of Cooke and another 2nd.

So, i am waiting for your cloning request, i will reply you the result...

ChrisKreider20 11-21-2011 02:00 PM

Clone me Wade Redden, I'll give you a 7th round pick.

palindrom 11-21-2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYRfan68 (Post 39750311)
Clone me Wade Redden, I'll give you a 7th round pick.

Result:

Success!! you got a clone of Redden. the 7th round pick is lost.

ChrisKreider20 11-21-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palindrom (Post 39750361)
Result:

Success!! you got a clone of Redden. the 7th round pick is lost.

poo.
I was hoping I could make Wade Redden disappear forever.

Leafs87 11-21-2011 02:04 PM

Jeff Finger for future considerations


Edit: wait NVM that means we have two fingers

palindrom 11-21-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYRfan68 (Post 39750403)
poo.
I was hoping I could make Wade Redden disappear forever.

Im not sure how the cloning process algorithm work....

but to fail i guess you should use less than a player market value.. since Reden was not claim on the waiver, no team would offer a 7th round for him.

Now that the player is cloned, it is too late for a second try to make one disappear.. i can only make one clone of a player.

InfinityIggy 11-21-2011 02:06 PM

Henrik Sedin for Daniel Sedin.

Am I doing this right?

palindrom 11-21-2011 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leafs87 (Post 39750477)
Jeff Finger for future considerations


Edit: wait NVM that means we have two fingers

Future considerations need to be defined to use the cloning process.

palindrom 11-21-2011 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfinityIggy (Post 39750547)
Henrik Sedin for Daniel Sedin.

Am I doing this right?

Result:

Success!! You got a clone of Henrik, Daniel is lost forever.

InfinityIggy 11-21-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palindrom (Post 39750663)
Result:

Success!! You got a clone of Henrik, Daniel is lost forever.

But, now I have 2 Henrik Sedins....but isn't that really the same as having one of each?

Oh my braaaain.

ChrisKreider20 11-21-2011 02:11 PM

Clone my: 1st round pick 2012

for

2nd round pick 2012
2nd round pick 2013
3rd round pick 2014

palindrom 11-21-2011 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYRfan68 (Post 39750713)
Clone my: 1st round pick 2012

for

2nd round pick 2012
2nd round pick 2013
3rd round pick 2014

please name your team....

Assuming its the NYR.

Success! you got another 2012 1st round draft pick (it will follow immediately the original pick, so if the Rangers draft 25th, they will get a 26th as well).

Note: the cloning process is still not 100% guarantee. If another team make the exact same request.. it have a chance to fail.

ColePens 11-21-2011 02:19 PM

If you do not like this thread, move along and choose to ignore it. It's the only warning I'm giving. If there are any posts flaming the thread, you will be given an infraction.

johnny_rudeboy 11-21-2011 02:25 PM

MacArthur for Toronto cloned to Nikolai Kulemin.

palindrom 11-21-2011 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColePens (Post 39751023)
If you do not like this thread, move along and choose to ignore it. It's the only warning I'm giving. If there are any posts flaming the thread, you will be given an infraction.

Well, this is an experimental thread..i almost thought the thread would be closed before it even begin. But thank..let the experiment continue...

One of the point is to evaluate how a fans value their players in relation to other player of their team instead of in relation to player of other team.

Another point is to bring some fun on this forum, its only a game after all!

palindrom 11-21-2011 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny_rudeboy (Post 39751271)
MacArthur for Toronto cloned to Nikolai Kulemin.

Result:

An unlucky failure! (it had still more than 50% chance to work): MacArthur is cloned instead. Kumelin is lost.

khennig16* 11-21-2011 02:43 PM

Not sure if I understand,
Give me a clone of Phil Kessel, Ill give you Luke Schenn

Is this you doing this, or did you code some program lol?

ChrisKreider20 11-21-2011 02:43 PM

What were the chances for my Redden clone anyways?

johnny_rudeboy 11-21-2011 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palindrom (Post 39751517)
Result:

An unlucky failure! (it had still more than 50% chance to work): MacArthur is cloned instead. Kumelin is lost.

Damn, ok. Clone my two MacArthurs to two Lupuls.

palindrom 11-21-2011 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khennig16 (Post 39751863)
Not sure if I understand,
Give me a clone of Phil Kessel, Ill give you Luke Schenn

Is this you doing this, or did you code some program lol?

Yes i did code a program. But i dont want to spoil it. Because i dont want this thread to be about perfecting my algorithm. (it could be a topic for another thread.) I just want to test it and get some feedback.

I can say as hint: Unless it really lopsided, Every cloning request have a chance to work.

Now let try this...Schenn for Kessel.

Result: Failure!! Kessel is lost, but you got a clone of Schenn.

ChibiPooky 11-21-2011 02:58 PM

Clone me a Backstrom. I'll put in Ovechkin.

Edit: is that even legal, since Caps would not be cap-compliant if it failed?

khennig16* 11-21-2011 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palindrom (Post 39752405)
Yes i did code a program. But i dont want to spoil it. Because i dont want this thread to be about perfecting my algorithm. (it could be a topic for another thread.) I just want to test it and get some feedback.

I can say as hint: Unless it really lopsided, Every cloning request have a chance to work.

Now let try this...Schenn for Kessel.

Result: Failure!! Kessel is lost, but you got a clone of Schenn.

That's awesome.

But that sucks.

palindrom 11-21-2011 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny_rudeboy (Post 39752141)
Damn, ok. Clone my two MacArthurs to two Lupuls.


Cloning request Declined!

As the result of the first try, Lupul is lost forever..so i cant try to clone him as i don't have an original anymore.

And read the rules.. this Request could result in 4 MacArthur, only one clone is allowed.

ColePens 11-21-2011 03:00 PM

I would like to clone James Neal - I'd throw you a Tyler Kennedy.

palindrom 11-21-2011 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYRfan68 (Post 39751877)
What were the chances for my Redden clone anyways?

About the same chance of the rangers accepting a 7th round pick for Redden.:)


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