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Rodent 09-15-2004 08:46 PM

Bid on your favorite Ranger buttons
 
Special auction, the result of the lockout. Get your Road Kill souvenirs while you still can. I'm liquidating.

http://hockeyrodent.com/r1061.htm

Firefly 09-15-2004 09:09 PM

:eek:

in the hall 09-15-2004 09:24 PM

that is a clear violation of ebays copywrite agreement, their lawyers will be contacting you shortly

Fire Sather 09-15-2004 09:55 PM

interesting..

Rodent 09-15-2004 10:53 PM

The joke apparently has not gone down as I had intended.

What with all the doom and gloom from the League's announcement this morning, I was trying to lighten things up a bit.

But I just got a personal note from one of my long-time regulars freakin' out that the lockout is forcing me to sell off pieces of my web site one button at a time to make ends meet - and that no matter where she clicks, she can't make a bid... all she gets is my web site.

I wrote back that I thought it would be obvious that navigation buttons aren't true hardware. You cannot touch them. You can't pack 'em and ship 'em anywhere. That it's all "virtual" etc, etc, etc. She wrote back that "How was I supposed to know?".

I suppose if you have to explain a joke, it's just not gonna work.

Edge 09-15-2004 11:04 PM

You cant make it too complicated for the average person or else they don't get it...... which pretty much explains Adam Sandler, the man who taught us it's okay to laugh at the mentally handicapped.

Firefly 09-15-2004 11:08 PM

I got it...after a while...when I realized "HEY! This isn't the REAL ebay!" ;)

I have to say I love the "Running a website" bit as well. Funny story and the pictures top it all off.

Balej20* 09-15-2004 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodent
The joke apparently has not gone down as I had intended.

What with all the doom and gloom from the League's announcement this morning, I was trying to lighten things up a bit.

But I just got a personal note from one of my long-time regulars freakin' out that the lockout is forcing me to sell off pieces of my web site one button at a time to make ends meet - and that no matter where she clicks, she can't make a bid... all she gets is my web site.

I wrote back that I thought it would be obvious that navigation buttons aren't true hardware. You cannot touch them. You can't pack 'em and ship 'em anywhere. That it's all "virtual" etc, etc, etc. She wrote back that "How was I supposed to know?".

I suppose if you have to explain a joke, it's just not gonna work.


hahahah :lol that's a classic story right there Rodent. lol

Rodent 09-15-2004 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu3shirt
I got it...after a while...when I realized "HEY! This isn't the REAL ebay!" ;)

I have to say I love the "Running a website" bit as well. Funny story and the pictures top it all off.

Thank you. You may have your own set of buttons for free.

http://hockeyrodent.com/bird/butplate.gif

Firefly 09-15-2004 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodent
Thank you. You may have your own set of buttons for free.

http://hockeyrodent.com/bird/butplate.gif

:bow:

in the hall 09-16-2004 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edge
You cant make it too complicated for the average person or else they don't get it...... which pretty much explains Adam Sandler, the man who taught us it's okay to laugh at the mentally handicapped.

Funny, my sarcasm went right over your head, guess it was too much for an average person. I got the lockout joke and thought it was cute, but decided to make one of my own in respect to Rodent and an old copywrite "issue".

Davisian 09-16-2004 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodent
The joke apparently has not gone down as I had intended.

What with all the doom and gloom from the League's announcement this morning, I was trying to lighten things up a bit.

Mission accomplished for me, I thought it was hilarious..

There isn't really a Fishstick Rodent right???

Rodent 09-16-2004 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davisian
Mission accomplished for me, I thought it was hilarious..

There isn't really a Fishstick Rodent right???

Every April Fools Day I dress up the web site and write faux columns in the colors of another team although sometimes it's not just April 1.

Here are the examples you saw:

From February of 2002:

http://hockeyrodent.com/rodentan.htm

April 2003:

http://hockeyrodent.com/rodentlk.htm

April 2004:

http://hockeyrodent.com/rodentxm.htm

For this last one, you had to know that the Bender character was used by one of my message board posters for his avatar. He was the single most vocal protester when Slats traded Leetch to Toronto.

The Thrasher advert you see on this page is no joke. There's this really cool internet radio show hosted by two cool Thrasher fans who talk hockey once a week and Bird and I have been guests on the show to discuss all things NHL, not just Atlanta hockey.

Rodent 09-16-2004 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in the hall
Funny, my sarcasm went right over your head, guess it was too much for an average person. I got the lockout joke and thought it was cute, but decided to make one of my own in respect to Rodent and an old copywrite "issue".

I got the humor. But jokes work best when you spell them correctly. The word is "copyright". Don't feel bad. Lotsa folks make this same mistake thinking that "write" has something to do with that the work is written. But it's really "right" as in "ownership rights" to the content.

And actually, it would have been more convincing had you cited the trademark issue rather than copyright, which was the case here.

Copyright applies to replicating an "original work" which means that something "creative" was ripped off. I did nothing of the sort.

Trademark infringement is more appropriate for the modification I applied to the eBay logo for the purpose of this spoof. But in cases of satire (such as mine) there's nothing to fear on my behalf except a sternly-worded "cease and desist" coming from eBay's legal department. Given the one-shot nature of my parody and the fact that none of the links were live and that I did not actually host a live auction or take anybody's money - this falls 100% under the satire realm. eBay wouldn't even lift a finger to place a stamp on the envelope. No harm was done to their business, their reputation and no harm was done to any individual even if they "fell" for the parody.

You kinda haveta know when to pick your spots with these things... what you can get away with and which lines not to cross.

Rodent 09-16-2004 02:21 PM

While we're on the subject,

I'm surprised you haven't said anything about the use of NYR's emblem on my web site or other Ranger fan web sites.

Technically, it is cause for the Dolans to become upset and unleash their legal eagles. But the PR value of letting me (and other web sites) use the logo in a tasteful manner far outweighs the bad PR they'd get if they made a stink.

The league has a uniform policy on this, by the way. It's not just NYR.

FYI - The Rangers PR folks are well aware of the various fan web sites that use the Ranger logo. They hire a consulting company to scan the world wide web on a regular basis. Kind of like a "clipping service".

To their credit, whenever they have a problem with the way the logo is being used, they are good about working with you to resolve the issue before they sick the lawyers. They are tolerant of honest criticism which is very big of them. E.g.., I can write a scathing column on my web site about how MSG's money is being mis-spent and they still consider it a "pro-Ranger" web site as long as I'm objective, respectful and not representing myself to be an official voice of MSG in any manner.

If I were to lower the standards and become abusive or personal towards players and/or management, then I could expect a nastygram from Penn Plaza.

So the rule of thumb is to be respectful and tasteful, even when being critical, and the club won't bite.

I.e., no porno on a page with the Blueshirt logo... unless (I suppose) it was a skantily-clad Veronika posing with Petr Nedved when the pivot was still a Ranger.

What was the question again?

Davisian 09-16-2004 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodent
While we're on the subject,

I'm surprised you haven't said anything about the use of NYR's emblem on my web site or other Ranger fan web sites.

Technically, it is cause for the Dolans to become upset and unleash their legal eagles. But the PR value of letting me (and other web sites) use the logo in a tasteful manner far outweighs the bad PR they'd get if they made a stink.

The league has a uniform policy on this, by the way. It's not just NYR.

FYI - The Rangers PR folks are well aware of the various fan web sites that use the Ranger logo. They hire a consulting company to scan the world wide web on a regular basis. Kind of like a "clipping service".

To their credit, whenever they have a problem with the way the logo is being used, they are good about working with you to resolve the issue before they sick the lawyers. They are tolerant of honest criticism which is very big of them. E.g.., I can write a scathing column on my web site about how MSG's money is being mis-spent and they still consider it a "pro-Ranger" web site as long as I'm objective, respectful and not representing myself to be an official voice of MSG in any manner.

If I were to lower the standards and become abusive or personal towards players and/or management, then I could expect a nastygram from Penn Plaza.

So the rule of thumb is to be respectful and tasteful, even when being critical, and the club won't bite.

I.e., no porno on a page with the Blueshirt logo... unless (I suppose) it was a skantily-clad Veronika posing with Petr Nedved when the pivot was still a Ranger.

What was the question again?



I believe it was "Do you support Phil Mickelsons club switch before the Ryder Cup," but I appreciate all the other info none the less..

Rodent 09-16-2004 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davisian
I believe it was "Do you support Phil Mickelsons club switch before the Ryder Cup," but I appreciate all the other info none the less..

Just as long as he doesn't screw with the irons or the putter.

Fletch 09-16-2004 03:43 PM

Talk about an interesting move...
 
I was surprised to hear that Callaway would pay him $50 million over five years for endorsement of woods [and balls? Didn't know they made them, but know he made a switch].

in the hall 09-16-2004 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodent
I got the humor. But jokes work best when you spell them correctly. The word is "copyright". Don't feel bad. Lotsa folks make this same mistake thinking that "write" has something to do with that the work is written. But it's really "right" as in "ownership rights" to the content.

And actually, it would have been more convincing had you cited the trademark issue rather than copyright, which was the case here.

Copyright applies to replicating an "original work" which means that something "creative" was ripped off. I did nothing of the sort.

Trademark infringement is more appropriate for the modification I applied to the eBay logo for the purpose of this spoof. But in cases of satire (such as mine) there's nothing to fear on my behalf except a sternly-worded "cease and desist" coming from eBay's legal department. Given the one-shot nature of my parody and the fact that none of the links were live and that I did not actually host a live auction or take anybody's money - this falls 100% under the satire realm. eBay wouldn't even lift a finger to place a stamp on the envelope. No harm was done to their business, their reputation and no harm was done to any individual even if they "fell" for the parody.

You kinda haveta know when to pick your spots with these things... what you can get away with and which lines not to cross.

right.. well, as I said above I was joking

Edge 09-16-2004 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in the hall
Funny, my sarcasm went right over your head, guess it was too much for an average person. I got the lockout joke and thought it was cute, but decided to make one of my own in respect to Rodent and an old copywrite "issue".

I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to Rodent saying his joke bombed {for lack of feedback}.

Guess the average person can't read either. It was right after his "if you have to explain the joke line.

in the hall 09-16-2004 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edge
I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to Rodent saying his joke bombed {for lack of feedback}.

Guess the average person can't read either. It was right after his "if you have to explain the joke line.

Do you consider yourself above average?

Edge 09-16-2004 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in the hall
Do you consider yourself above average?


Not particularly...... What I do consider myself is a rational person who can think through things clearly and convey his points accordingly.

in the hall 09-17-2004 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edge
Not particularly...... What I do consider myself is a rational person who can think through things clearly and convey his points accordingly.

Well put. I think the majority here is that so there's no need to belittle people who you feel aren't up to standard.

nrf83 09-17-2004 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodent
Just as long as he doesn't screw with the irons or the putter.

Great tee shot on 18 Phil. Tiger is forced to take drop, USA takes 6 on 18 and loose match. Christ even the Rodent could hit a better 3 wood than Phil's 3 wood. :mad: :mad:

Rodent 09-17-2004 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nrf83
Great tee shot on 18 Phil. Tiger is forced to take drop, USA takes 6 on 18 and loose match. Christ even the Rodent could hit a better 3 wood than Phil's 3 wood. :mad: :mad:

Actually, I carry a four-wood and an extra wedge instead of the 3-wood and 5-wood.


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