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Classless Manked 11-26-2011 09:30 AM

The NBA is "Tentatively" Back
 
Let me start this off by stating that I am quite frankly no longer a fan of basketball (never really have been). There are very few upsets in the sport, a huge difference in the quality of teams, but I think this is news worthy.

It sounds like the players got really screwed:

Quote:

The deal will feature a 50-50 split of revenues, but with the possibility of the players making as much as 51 percent or as little as 49, depending on whether the league exceeds or falls short of projections. The players had been earning 57 percent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/27/sp...d-lockout.html
http://www.tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=381316

Discuss.

Does the NBA coming back hurt the NHL?

BK201 11-26-2011 09:38 AM

Haha as if they agreed to that revenue share they for sure got offered more than that and turned it down.

I wonder what they got in compensation.

BonkTastic 11-26-2011 09:40 AM

If I wanted to watch a sport in which each side scored 60+ times in a game, I'd watch golf.
And I hate watching golf.

Basketball: fun to play, absolutely horrible TV.

I can't see it having a ton of influence on the hockey season. Maybe a few cities see their attendance numbers drop slightly, that's about it. Hockey in the States is a pretty niche sport outside of the northeast.

Minister of Offence 11-26-2011 09:47 AM

Terrible league.

Can only hurt the NHLs exposure and we probably were getting a bit more with the lockout.

BK201 11-26-2011 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minister of Offence (Post 39977519)
Terrible league.

Can only hurt the NHLs exposure and we probably were getting a bit more with the lockout.

Yeah would have been good for the NHL but NCAA basketball just started too and Americans love NCAA football/basketball.

HebrewHammer 11-26-2011 10:08 AM

Used to be a huge fan, kinda lost interest, but my interest is increasing again. More of a fan of EuroLeague Ball, too bad that quality will decrease now. Glad to see it back though. Go Celtics.

TheSpaceCoyote 11-26-2011 10:15 AM

I love basketball but I'm fine with a shortened season. Unlike hockey, basketball is only fun to watch in the playoffs, they should go with a shortened regular season every year. I'm happy they won't miss the entire season.

Mercurial 11-26-2011 10:45 AM

I don't mind basketball, will watch other things in preference, but when games get down to the last 2 minutes and that takes about 30 minutes to play, then I'm done. They need to do something about that crap.

Shanny 11-26-2011 10:47 AM

I could care less


...go Bulls and Clippers I guess.

OmniSens 11-26-2011 10:58 AM

YES!!!
The city of Ottawa will finally be complete! :sarcasm::naughty:

MatthewT 11-26-2011 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sensjersey11 (Post 39977337)
If I wanted to watch a sport in which each side scored 60+ times in a game, I'd watch golf.
And I hate watching golf.


Basketball: fun to play, absolutely horrible TV.

I can't see it having a ton of influence on the hockey season. Maybe a few cities see their attendance numbers drop slightly, that's about it. Hockey in the States is a pretty niche sport outside of the northeast.

This makes zero sense

MikeyMagic 11-26-2011 11:02 AM

Damn, I was hoping it would never come back. Haven't missed it one bit.

BonkTastic 11-26-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 39979487)
This makes zero sense

Why does this not make sense?

My entire point is that scoring every 30 seconds makes for terrible television. It devalues the score itself, and becomes boring.

A "score" (goal, basket, TD, etc...) should mean something. Score often enough and it becomes a "ho-hum" excercise in banality.

Xelace 11-26-2011 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyMagic (Post 39979559)
Damn, I was hoping it would never come back. Haven't missed it one bit.

This.


Now only if we could get rid of baseball..:naughty:






:sarcasm:

Uncle Eugene 11-26-2011 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sensjersey11 (Post 39979871)
Why does this not make sense?

My entire point is that scoring every 30 seconds makes for terrible television. It devalues the score itself, and becomes boring.

A "score" (goal, basket, TD, etc...) should mean something. Score often enough and it becomes a "ho-hum" excercise in banality.

Agreed.

There is literally zero excitement in Basketball until the last 5 minutes of play.

It all seems so pointless until then.

saskriders 11-26-2011 11:30 AM

NBA<Basketball

I don't mind watching march madness, or Olympic basketball, but the NBA is a joke. They don't call travel (isn't that the most important rule), and they favour star players

CanadianHockey 11-26-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanMonahan (Post 39977139)
Let me start this off by stating that I am quite frankly no longer a fan of basketball (never really have been). There are very few upsets in the sport, a huge difference in the quality of teams, but I think this is news worthy.

It sounds like the players got really screwed:



http://www.tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=381316

Discuss.

Does the NBA coming back hurt the NHL?

To be fair, everyone was saying the owners owned the NHLPA after the NHL lockout, and now the owners are the ones complaining about how they got screwed. We'll see how it actually plays out, the PA might have actually gotten great compensation for lower salaries.

MikeyMagic 11-26-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Eugene (Post 39980337)
Agreed.

There is literally zero excitement in Basketball until the last 5 minutes of play.

It all seems so pointless until then.

It's because the last 5 minutes takes over an hour to play with all the damn timeouts, fouls and free throws.

Never could get the least bit interested in this sport.

TheSpaceCoyote 11-26-2011 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sensjersey11 (Post 39979871)
Why does this not make sense?

My entire point is that scoring every 30 seconds makes for terrible television. It devalues the score itself, and becomes boring.

A "score" (goal, basket, TD, etc...) should mean something. Score often enough and it becomes a "ho-hum" excercise in banality.

It's not scoring a basket that's exciting (unless it's a really nice basket or an important one), it's when teams go on a run and score 8 straight points or something like that and you can feel the momentum starting to tip that makes it exciting or when you get a steal or a block on defense.
In a fast paced game with some good teams/players it can get as exciting as a good hockey game. (but still, nothing beats playoff hockey)

ChocolateLeclaire 11-26-2011 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saskriders (Post 39980423)
NBA<Basketball

I don't mind watching march madness, or Olympic basketball, but the NBA is a joke. They don't call travel (isn't that the most important rule), and they favour star players

March Madness is basketball in it's purest form. It's one of the best tournaments in all of sports for the drama, the upsets, the craziness of the games.

If you don't like March Madness, you are not a sports fan! It's exhilarating. A million times better than the NBA. I don't care about the NBA and its egos at all.

Give me college ball any day!

Ed Wood 11-26-2011 01:15 PM

I'd be in favour of making basketball illegal.

Cornwall OHL 11-26-2011 01:47 PM

Does Vancouver still have a basketball team? Did they figure out a better system then those peach baskets? Go Grizzlies!

MainDotC 11-26-2011 02:06 PM

I heard some people on NPR talk about how people will lose interest in the game and how that happened to the NHL after their lockout. I don't think that's really the case...it seems the NHL gained popularity by using the drama of the lockout to culminate with a thrilling re-entrance, a re-designed logo and increased marketing, television coverage, non-traditional/AHL venues for pre-season games, and the winter classiq housing almost 80K people plus broadcast rights. I don't know what the Neilesn ratings are (or how accurate they are) but I feel the NHL is way more popular than pre-lockout and it didn't hurt to have "the Next One" waiting in the draft.

I don't know what the NBA's plans are but they should use the re-entrance as a positive thing and give people a reason to be excited about the game resuming. As for the interest in this type of sport being it high-scoring...yes it can be a little boring but I tend to find a little more interest in how those 60+ pts are scored each time. Watching SU basketball (and it has been stated that college BB is waaayyy better than NBA) I think those kids work awfully hard to get each basket so I can get into it. The NBA's telecasts in HD are pretty sweet imho, but if they're not trying then it can get rather boring.

The NHL takes measures to make the game more enjoyable for the fans...perhaps the NBA should take equivalent measures to make it more catching.

OmniSens 11-26-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 39979487)
This makes zero sense

It makes perfect sense...

Have you not seen Tiger Woods play lately?

Emerica 11-26-2011 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sensjersey11 (Post 39977337)
If I wanted to watch a sport in which each side scored 60+ times in a game, I'd watch golf.
And I hate watching golf.

Basketball: fun to play, absolutely horrible TV.

I can't see it having a ton of influence on the hockey season. Maybe a few cities see their attendance numbers drop slightly, that's about it. Hockey in the States is a pretty niche sport outside of the northeast.

Speak for yourself. I love watching basketball on TV.


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