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mrwarden 11-28-2011 07:26 PM

2011 Acq./Rost. Bldg./Cap Part 2
 
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=40102237

Now with less Incarcerated Bob.

caps4cup 11-28-2011 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrwarden (Post 40102183)
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=40102237

Now with less Incarcerated Bob.

He was right!!!

BrooklynCapsFan 11-28-2011 08:38 PM

I'd prefer to send him to Columbus, but

Semin

for

Penner, a pick + a $3 million salary dump

Eh?

californiacapsfan 11-28-2011 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrooklynCapsFan (Post 40106321)
I'd prefer to send him to Columbus, but

Semin

for

Penner, a pick + a $3 million salary dump

Eh?

Do not want Penner anywhere near this team. Talk about a guy who's lost his game.

JawandaPuck 11-28-2011 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrooklynCapsFan (Post 40106321)
I'd prefer to send him to Columbus, but

Semin

for

Penner, a pick + a $3 million salary dump

Eh?


The question is, what would you do with the $3M?

brs03 11-28-2011 08:43 PM

I think Semin's version of failure is more entertaining than Penner's version of failure. Penner would just be depressing.

I mean if the rest of the deal were right I guess I could learn to like it (both guys make sense as low-risk change of scenery types) but if I had to guess I'd see it as more likely Semin turns it on here than Penner.

Capitlols 11-28-2011 08:59 PM

Damn I wish we could pry Cal Clutterbuck from the Wild.

thewill78 11-28-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Appreci8 (Post 40107641)
Damn I wish we could pry Cal Clutterbuck from the Wild.

That would be amazing :naughty:

mrwarden 11-28-2011 10:19 PM

Someone mentioned Bobby Ryan:

Quote:

Doing the oilers/predators game @RealKyper told by an nhl exec that ducks r shopping bobby ryan. Wow. 2 wins in 18.

Chimaera 11-28-2011 10:20 PM

If we got him, it would make up for the Pokulok and Finley draft fiasco!


That said, I don't know how in the world we could pull it off without giving a prized defenseman or a certain Swedish center.

They don't want a certain Russian forward in return.

Capitlols 11-28-2011 10:26 PM

Yeah I'd imagine it would take Alzner/Carlson +

No need to do it for a W.

BrooklynCapsFan 11-28-2011 10:40 PM

Nashville makes a ton of sense. Ryan is affordable if he gets back to the production he's capable and Anaheim couldn't do much better than getting back Suter.

caps4cup 11-28-2011 10:49 PM

Bobby Ryan would be a perfect fit... If they're looking for a rebuild, I think we'd have some good pieces (Schultz + Perreault + Neuvirth + Eakin + Galiev + picks) but if they're looking to still compete I don't see much of a chance of us getting him unless we trade Laich...
Laich
Schultz
Perreault
1st

???

Idk it's kind of tough...

ChibiPooky 11-28-2011 11:48 PM

My dream scenario is packaging Semin + WSH 1st (+ Perreault if absolutely necessary) for Ryan or Iginla. Too bad it will never happen, ever.

Halpysback 11-29-2011 12:24 AM

If trading Ryan is their version of rebuilding then maybe Eakin and an avalanche of 1sts including the Colorado one with Hamrlik leaving as a salary dump would entice them. Maybe send Schultz over as well if we can get Beauchemin out of it too.

If they're trying to get depth to stay relevant during the season then yeah we're not good partners.

NobodyBeatsTheWiz 11-29-2011 12:35 AM

I'd dangle Kuznetsov for Ryan.

Carlzner 11-29-2011 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyBeatsTheWiz (Post 40121873)
I'd dangle Kuznetsov for Ryan.


Yakupov with Col's 1st would replace Kuz ;)

Really want to keep Eakin, Galiev, Kuz... but if giving one up meant getting Ryan... i dunno.

NobodyBeatsTheWiz 11-29-2011 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaz (Post 40122041)
Yakupov with Col's 1st would replace Kuz ;)

Really want to keep Eakin, Galiev, Kuz... but if giving one up meant getting Ryan... i dunno.

What are the chances any of those players become anything close to Ryan though? 24 year old power forwards with 3 30-goal seasons under their belt are rare players.

Think about it this way. In 3 full NHL seasons, Bobby Ryan has as many 30-goal seasons as Alexander Semin has in 6.

HSHS 11-29-2011 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyBeatsTheWiz (Post 40122249)
What are the chances any of those players become anything close to Ryan though? 24 year old power forwards with 3 30-goal seasons under their belt are rare players.

Think about it this way. In 3 full NHL seasons, Bobby Ryan has as many 30-goal seasons as Alexander Semin has in 6.

But how many hooking penalties, turnovers, or bongos!? See not everything is about goals...




:sarcasm:

Carlzner 11-29-2011 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HSHS (Post 40123041)
But how many hooking penalties, turnovers, or bongos!? See not everything is about goals...




:sarcasm:



Bongo playing is a very important stat in the new NHL.

HSHS 11-29-2011 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaz (Post 40123059)
Bongo playing is a very important stat in the new NHL.

It's right up there with gloves per game.

JawandaPuck 11-29-2011 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyBeatsTheWiz (Post 40121873)
I'd dangle Kuznetsov for Ryan.

If Ryan is truly available, ANA is looking for a hell of a lot more than a Russian prospect with visions of Olympic glory bouncing around in his head. Have a look at ANA's blueline and you'll quickly realize what they'd be looking for.

My guess is that the NHL exec is feeding Kyper some bull, in an attempt to create some public pressure. Ryan is signed long-term to a fair deal (while Getzlaf & Perry will be UFAs in only a year and a half). To get Ryan, teams would have to completely overpay (or iow, Carlson AND Eakin). Doesn't have the smell of a McPhee type maneuver.

ChibiPooky 11-29-2011 08:54 AM

Rumor has it Ryan's being shopped because he has attitude and motivation issues. If that's the case, I wouldn't give up more than Semin for him.

Efactor 11-29-2011 09:15 AM

How about Semin + Hammer to DET for White, Tatar, and Nyquist?

NobodyBeatsTheWiz 11-29-2011 09:22 AM

What would possess Detroit to do that?


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