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SauceHockey 12-14-2011 09:49 PM

Playing "A"
 
As some of you know I have been recently cut from an A team. I recently got called up to play for them in a tournament? What should I expect when it comes to game speed and skill in comparisons to house. Most of our opponents population in their city is about 5,000 , 7,000 , 50,000 (Their 3rd rep team) and our city is about 30,000 in surronding areas.

Gino 14 12-15-2011 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by asdwe1 (Post 40966743)
As some of you know I have been recently cut from an A team. I recently got called up to play for them in a tournament? What should I expect when it comes to game speed and skill in comparisons to house. Most of our opponents population in their city is about 5,000 , 7,000 , 50,000 (Their 3rd rep team) and our city is about 30,000 in surronding areas.

My guess would be that "A" would be slower and with less skill compared to house.

McDuul 12-15-2011 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Gino 14 (Post 40975751)
My guess would be that "A" would be slower and with less skill compared to house.

What?

Judging teams by population is pretty pointless, as towns with small #'s such as that will usually only go up to A, therefore you're playing the best players from those areas for the most part. I know when I played A back in the day there were teams who did well against AA/AAA teams and there were teams that weren't much better than house league teams.

Stickmata 12-15-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gino 14 (Post 40975751)
My guess would be that "A" would be slower and with less skill compared to house.

I'm sorry, wut? Out here it goes House/B/A/AA/AAA, and A is definately not slower than house. It's much faster and better than house league. B is close to house league, but A is not.

Saved* 12-15-2011 10:34 AM

I used to play for a hockey team for a village of about 700 people. Bantam A/Midget A hockey.

Our team regularly dismantled powerhouse AAA teams such as Port Hawkesburry Maroons, Antigonish Bulldogs etc... we just could only go up to A.

Gino 14 12-15-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Stickmata (Post 40980213)
I'm sorry, wut?

I thought the guy was joking, at least i hope he was. If he wasn't joking, do you really think it would make a difference what you told him?

SauceHockey 12-15-2011 09:13 PM

I am asking how big the gap is in beetween House and A, I guess I poorly phrased that...

Finnish your Czech 12-15-2011 11:01 PM

I play 'A', and it's a big difference, it's probably even larger since smaller towns generally have better 'A' teams. (I play in a big city, and we play 'A' teams from smaller municipalities and they are much better, generally)

izzy3 12-16-2011 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by asdwe1 (Post 41012927)
I am asking how big the gap is in beetween House and A, I guess I poorly phrased that...

This big:
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Gino 14 12-16-2011 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by izzy3 (Post 41027381)
This big:
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That's what I was thinking.:yo:

Royal Canuck 12-18-2011 08:25 PM

skill doesn't vary much between A/AA/AAA because they just mean how many players there are in the association, not the skill level of the team itself. I played goalie for a AAA team and we lost to a few A teams.

vapor11 12-18-2011 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSwede21 (Post 41162809)
skill doesn't vary much between A/AA/AAA because they just mean how many players there are in the association, not the skill level of the team itself.

You can't honestly believe that right?

ponder 12-18-2011 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by izzy3 (Post 41027381)
This big:
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I measured the gap very accurately the other day, and it's actually only this big:
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Kulluminati 12-18-2011 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ponder (Post 41167439)
I measured the gap very accurately the other day, and it's actually only this big:
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i can second this

Iplayhockehh 12-19-2011 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ponder (Post 41167439)
I measured the gap very accurately the other day, and it's actually only this big:
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I respectfully disagree and choose to support the original gap that was stated above. No offence to you, however.

ponder 12-20-2011 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Iplayhockehh (Post 41223463)
I respectfully disagree and choose to support the original gap that was stated above. No offence to you, however.

Offence taken regardless, I take great pride in my gap measuring skills.

Iplayhockehh 12-20-2011 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ponder (Post 41226601)
Offence taken regardless, I take great pride in my gap measuring skills.

Made me chuckle, :handclap:

Here's some real advice. Play the game you played in house, have the same confidence you had in house. If you do that you'll be fine. Obviously there will be a difference in speed but you'll get used to it about 5 minutes into the game.

izzy3 12-20-2011 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ponder (Post 41167439)
I measured the gap very accurately the other day, and it's actually only this big:
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That is possible; I'm a small guy, gaps seem bigger to me than they are...

Iplayhockehh 12-20-2011 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by izzy3 (Post 41229857)
That is possible; I'm a small guy, gaps seem bigger to me than they are...

Don't worry about it! Your theory proved to be a basis for gap measurer's everywhere!

shawn1331 12-20-2011 07:07 PM

I'm not sure what age group you are(if you typed it im too lazy to go up and look) but I play house league outside of highschool and I play varsity in highschool. My school is a "AA" school (we have about 550 people). There are 8 teams in our loop, 3 "AA" and 5 "AAA". When it comes to speed I keep up just fine its really not bad at all. Skill wise, yeah theres some good players out there but alot of players I'm almost on par with.

The biggest problem for me is size. I'm barely 5'6 off skates and 130 lbs. Most of the players we play are 6'+ off skates and 180 lbs. Because they play in AA and AAA leagues they work out alot so they are very strong and conditioned so try speed not strength in the corners.

SauceHockey 12-20-2011 09:07 PM

Weel the tourny is finished. It was a 4 team tourny and this is how my performance went. We finished 2nd. I had 2G and 1A during 4 Games.

Eamonn* 12-20-2011 10:27 PM

^good job :P.

Anyways..

In the lower mainland.. A is the highest level, B is the second highest, and C is house. But in each of those levels, there are 'tiers'. Tier 1 has all the best teams, and there are 6 tiers in total per level. So I guess tier 1 and 2 would be AAA, tier 3 and 4 would be AA, and tier 5 and 6 would be A, of the 'A' level.

Guess thats not how it is where you are.

Also does anyone know why schools in the USA have highschool hockey yet not one school in the Vancouver area has hockey? It's baffling to me.. I would have killed to play highschool hockey but its not a thing around here.

shawn1331 12-21-2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Eamonn (Post 41273167)
^good job :P.

Anyways..

In the lower mainland.. A is the highest level, B is the second highest, and C is house. But in each of those levels, there are 'tiers'. Tier 1 has all the best teams, and there are 6 tiers in total per level. So I guess tier 1 and 2 would be AAA, tier 3 and 4 would be AA, and tier 5 and 6 would be A, of the 'A' level.

Guess thats not how it is where you are.

Also does anyone know why schools in the USA have highschool hockey yet not one school in the Vancouver area has hockey? It's baffling to me.. I would have killed to play highschool hockey but its not a thing around here.

Oh, weird out here every school has a hockey team if they have the interest. Is it possible your school HAD a team and did something to lose it's privalige, or there isn't any rinks around? Maybe your the only school within driving distance?

ponder 12-21-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shawn1331 (Post 41308183)
Oh, weird out here every school has a hockey team if they have the interest. Is it possible your school HAD a team and did something to lose it's privalige, or there isn't any rinks around? Maybe your the only school within driving distance?

Pretty sure that Vancouver just doesn't have high school hockey, period, or at least didn't for a long time. I believe it's starting to creep in slowly, I think there are the odd teams in the suburbs now, but it's not a city with lots of highschool hockey like, say, Toronto. I think part of it is that hockey hasn't traditionally been quite as popular in Vancouver as it is now, it's not like the rest of Canada where you can just get started in the sport at an early age on endless outdoor rinks. Growing up in Toronto I feel like almost all of my male friends played organized hockey at some point, or at least would play shinny outside, but the majority of the guys I've become friends with in Vancouver (who are Vancouver natives) don't play the sport. Plenty of guys who play too, but not the same as in Toronto, and definitely not the same as in small town Ontario, where hockey is even more popular, so you can see why HS hockey has been slow getting here. That and the fact that it'd be tough to find ice time, there's a decent number of rinks, but not a crazy number, I'd say that in Vancouver, Burnaby, Richmond, New West and North Van combined there are maybe 20 rinks, servicing about 1 million people. Ice times in this sort of "core" of Greater Vancouver are already pretty damn booked up with beer leagues, minor hockey, etc.

shawn1331 12-22-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ponder (Post 41310535)
Pretty sure that Vancouver just doesn't have high school hockey, period, or at least didn't for a long time. I believe it's starting to creep in slowly, I think there are the odd teams in the suburbs now, but it's not a city with lots of highschool hockey like, say, Toronto. I think part of it is that hockey hasn't traditionally been quite as popular in Vancouver as it is now, it's not like the rest of Canada where you can just get started in the sport at an early age on endless outdoor rinks. Growing up in Toronto I feel like almost all of my male friends played organized hockey at some point, or at least would play shinny outside, but the majority of the guys I've become friends with in Vancouver (who are Vancouver natives) don't play the sport. Plenty of guys who play too, but not the same as in Toronto, and definitely not the same as in small town Ontario, where hockey is even more popular, so you can see why HS hockey has been slow getting here. That and the fact that it'd be tough to find ice time, there's a decent number of rinks, but not a crazy number, I'd say that in Vancouver, Burnaby, Richmond, New West and North Van combined there are maybe 20 rinks, servicing about 1 million people. Ice times in this sort of "core" of Greater Vancouver are already pretty damn booked up with beer leagues, minor hockey, etc.

Woowza that's rough lol. I am a little suprised by that but totally makes sense. I know out here there is a rink in practically every town, my town has just under 600 ppl and we have arguably the nicest ice in clarington. The only schools that don't play HS hockey lost the privalege. Like CCSS and Kenner had a bench clearing brawl last year that ended up with about 230 days of suspension from school between the 2 teams, so this year they said forget it your not playing for both those teams.


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