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Hab-a-maniac 09-27-2004 07:01 PM

How 'bout top TEN 90s players
 
1. Lemieux
2. Jagr
3. Lindros
4. Yzerman
5. Messier
6. Hull
7. Sakic
8. Selanne
9. Bourque
10. Gretzky-Hey, he was still great for the first half of the decade.

Verbal Kint* 09-27-2004 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hab-a-maniac
1. Lemieux
2. Jagr
3. Lindros
4. Yzerman
5. Messier
6. Hull
7. Sakic
8. Selanne
9. Bourque
10. Gretzky-Hey, he was still great for the first half of the decade.

Where are the goalies?

Zetterberg4Captain* 09-27-2004 07:14 PM

1. Lemieux
2. Jagr
3. Hull
4. Yzerman
5. Fedorov
6. Roy
7. Brodeur
8. Selanne
9. Lindros
10. Kariya

Burnaby_Joe* 09-27-2004 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ofhdhdy
1. Lemieux
2. Jagr
3. Hull
4. Yzerman
5. Fedorov
6. Roy
7. Brodeur
8. Selanne
9. Lindros
10. Kariya

No Sakic :dunno:

Roughneck 09-27-2004 07:41 PM

No Bure?

#66 09-27-2004 07:44 PM

1. Lemieux 2. Jagr 3. Roy 4. Hull 5. Sakic 6. Bourque 7. Messier 8. Bure 9. Broduer 10. MacInnis (so under-rated)

Jacques Plante 09-27-2004 07:48 PM

1.Lemieux
2.Roy
3.Jagr
4. Hasek
5.Gretzky
6.Hull
7.Bourque
8.Sakic
9.Messier
10.Bure

VanIslander 09-27-2004 07:51 PM

Dominik Hasek (5 times best goalie, 2 times league MVP)
Mario Lemieux
Jaromir Jagr
Mark Messier
Raymond Bourque
Patrik Roy
Steve Yzerman
Wayne Gretzky
Chris Chelios
Brett Hull

Verbal Kint* 09-27-2004 07:51 PM

1. Lemieux
2. Hasek
3. Jagr
4. Lindros
5. Roy
6. Hull
7. Bourque
8. Federov
9. Bure
10. Yzerman

Jacques Plante 09-27-2004 07:55 PM

I look and on everyones list Jagr is near the top. He was just so dominant back then, and he still could be if he wanted to. What a waste.

Luigi Lemieux 09-27-2004 09:34 PM

1. Lemieux
2. Jagr
3. Hasek
4. Roy
5. Gretzky
6. Hull
7. Selanne
8. Bourque
9. Yzerman
10. Bure

#66 09-27-2004 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques Plante
I look and on everyones list Jagr is near the top. He was just so dominant back then, and he still could be if he wanted to. What a waste.

To true. I think that the Pens overly coddled him for so long that he became bratty. I just can't understand how he can go from one of the best players ever to just a good player in such a short amout of time. I'm also slapping myself for forgeting about Hasek and Lidstrom. Some other that should at least get a mention are Larry Murphy, Cam Neely, Adam Oates, Brian Leech, Peter Bondra, Scott Stevens, Ed Belfour, Ron Francis, Doug Gilmour, and Pat Lafontaine.

Luigi Lemieux 09-27-2004 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques Plante
I look and on everyones list Jagr is near the top. He was just so dominant back then, and he still could be if he wanted to. What a waste.

i don't think he can be as dominant anymore even if he wanted to. he's almost 33, and he's lost that special something that made him extra elite. it's hard to explain what it is, but from watching him play you can tell he's not the same guy on the ice, regardless of what he does off the ice.

kmad 09-27-2004 11:02 PM

1. Lemieux
2. Jagr
3. Hasek
4. Bourque
5. Hull
6. Gretzky
7. Roy
8. Lindros
9. Sakic
10. Chelios

HM: Brodeur, Leetch, Neely, Yzerman, Fedorov, Lidstrom, Bure, Selanne, Messier, Kariya, Shanahan, Mogilny, Coffey

Lundmark17 09-27-2004 11:36 PM

Man this is an unfair topic, but I guess a lot of good players are going to be left out.

1. Mario Lemiuex - Dominanted when in the lineup. He was unreal.
2. Jaromir Jagr - A bunch of Art Ross trophies, a couple of cups
3. Wayne Gretzky - Early 90s was amazing, mid 90s great, late 90 still a good player
4. Patrick Roy - Two cups, Vezinas. There was nothing he hasn't done
5. Eric Lindros - Despite injury problems, he was a dominant force
6. Pavel Bure - Simply electrifying even with all his knee problems
7. Dominik Hasek - Saying that he was unstoppable at times was an understatement
8. Joe Sakic - Truly came into his own with his Cup win
9. Steve Yzerman - Just like Sakic, the Stanley Cups put him into the elite category
10. Brett Hull - Easily the best shooter of the 90s

This is in not much of an order, just a general one. Guys like Bourque, Broduer (really coming into his own in since the turn or the century), and some many others could easily be on this list.

VO #23 09-27-2004 11:52 PM

1. Jaromir Jagr
2. Mario Lemieux (would be #1 if not for the seasons lost to injury/retirement)
3. Eric Lindros
4. Patrick Roy
5. Pavel Bure
6. Ray Bourque
7. Al MacInnis
8. Wayne Gretzky
9. Brett Hull
10. Joe Sakic

revolverjgw 09-28-2004 08:19 PM

1- Jaromir Jagr
2- Mario Lemieux
3- Patrick Roy
4- Wayne Gretzky
5- Ray Bourque
6- Joe Sakic
7- Dominik Hasek
8- Mark Messier
9- Steve Yzerman
10- Eric Lindros

Hard to leave Brodeur, Bure, Belfour et al off, but... stiff competition. I'm glad to see Al Mac make some of these lists. He might be my number 11.

And how in the world is Gretzky not making some of these lists? From 90-91 to 98-99, he was THE highest scorer, period, above Jagr, who only passes him because he played one more season, played more games, and on FARRRR better teams. Give him linemates two thirds as good as Jagrs and Wayne is number 1, no problem (Yachmenev? Sundstrom? MacLean? Granato?). And only Mario and Patrick had a playoff up there with Wayne's '93 performance (Sakic's was close, but he had tons of help, whereas LA only made it because Wayne supplied twice as much offense as any other King). '97 was also stellar, too, quietly better than anyone else, sans Mario, Sakic and Roy, considering the circumstances. It's not like he was Mark Messier or Ron Francis or Adam Oates... he was still an offensive superstar. (everything that could go wrong in '99, DID go wrong... lighten his painful burden even a tad and give him a decent linemate, and he'd still be nipping at 100 points, until he retired).

Jacques Plante 09-28-2004 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revolverjgw

And how in the world is Gretzky not making some of these lists? From 90-91 to 98-99, he was THE highest scorer, period, above Jagr, who only passes him because he played one more season, played more games, and on FARRRR better teams. Give him linemates two thirds as good as Jagrs and Wayne is number 1, no problem (Yachmenev? Sundstrom? MacLean? Granato?). And only Mario and Patrick had a playoff up there with Wayne's '93 performance (Sakic's was close, but he had tons of help, whereas LA only made it because Wayne supplied twice as much offense as any other King). '97 was also stellar, too, quietly better than anyone else, sans Mario, Sakic and Roy, considering the circumstances. It's not like he was Mark Messier or Ron Francis or Adam Oates... he was still an offensive superstar. (everything that could go wrong in '99, DID go wrong... lighten his painful burden even a tad and give him a decent linemate, and he'd still be nipping at 100 points, until he retired).

Excellent point. He simply was the great one. During his entire career he lead his team in scoring every year except for 93 when he had the back. But in 93 he put together that rediculous playoff. He averaged over a point a game in every year of the 90's except his last (an injury plagued year). Even in the Rangers jersey he made the highlights. I can remember him sinking the Habs in OT with 2 goals from behind the net when the Rangers came in on a saturday night. All stuff I can tell my kids, one day. I'm not saying he should be #1 but he definately is top 10.

HBLee82 09-28-2004 10:09 PM

1.Roy
2.Jagr
3.Lemieux
4. P. Bure
5.Gretzky
6.Hull
7.Bourque
8.Sakic
9.Messier
10. Yzerman

VanIslander 09-28-2004 10:14 PM

We all remember the hype, me included. We forget one of the best players whose star didn't shine so brightly because he wasn't playing in a high-profile hockey market.

Who scored the most goals in the nineties?

Peter Bondra.

Evil Homer 09-29-2004 08:35 PM

Best all around player for my money in the 90's was Peter Forsberg. Don't believe he's been on a single list.

Weezel RX7 09-29-2004 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Homer
Best all around player for my money in the 90's was Peter Forsberg. Don't believe he's been on a single list.

He wasnt as dominant as the players mentioned...nuff said

1. Lemieux
2. Jagr
3. Gretzky
4. Hasek
5. Roy
6. Bourque
7. Yzerman
8. Mogilny
9. Hull
10. Fedorov

kmad 09-29-2004 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Homer
Best all around player for my money in the 90's was Peter Forsberg. Don't believe he's been on a single list.

So for you, the 90s = 1998-2004?

pnep 09-30-2004 03:02 AM

no Oates????
:dunno: :dunno:

1990-91 - 1999-00

LW

Player - Pts
===============
Robitaille Luc - 756
Shanahan Brendan - 731
Leclair John - 615
Stevens Kevin - 597
Thomas Steve - 575

C

Player - Pts
===============
Oates Adam - 896
Sakic Joe - 896
Gretzky Wayne - 878
Yzerman Steve - 870
Turgeon Pierre - 827

RW

Player - Pts
===============
Jagr Jaromir - 958
Recchi Mark - 864
Hull Brett - 842
Fleury Theo - 818
Selanne Teemu - 729

D

Player - Pts
===============
Bourque Ray - 680
Leetch Brian - 640
Macinnis Al - 598
Coffey Paul - 575
Housley Phil - 572

2000-01 - 2003-04

LW

Player - Pts
===================
Naslund Markus - 353
Bertuzzi Todd - 297
Elias Patrik - 295
Tkachuk Keith - 280
Shanahan Brendan - 272

C

Player - Pts
=================
Sakic Joe - 342
Thornton Joe - 313
Sundin Mats - 301
Modano Mike - 290
Fedorov Sergei - 285

RW

Player - Pts
================
Jagr Jaromir - 351
Iginla Jarome - 307
Hossa Marian - 303
Alfredsson Daniel - 300
Hejduk Milan - 296

D

Player - Pts
====================
Gonchar Sergei - 241
Lidstrom Nicklas - 230
Leetch Brian - 215
Blake Rob - 206
Zubov Sergei - 192

billybob 09-30-2004 12:33 PM

1. Jagr

2. Super Mario

3. Grezkey

4. Messier

5. Kariya

6. Bure

7. Selanne

8. Oates

9. Lindros

10. Hull/Shannhan/Lecliar/Yzerman hard to pick just ten

Ps. this is my list for players, and none are in any real order

Goalies

1. Hasek
2.Roy
3.Broduer
4.Belfour
5.Barasso
6.Joseph


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