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HellasLEAF 12-28-2011 01:33 PM

Vokoun
 
Is this the end of the road for him or any chance he is re-signed, traded, etc.

SDBondra 12-28-2011 01:35 PM

I think he'll play out his season here. Unless he is awesome in the playoffs and gets us to the ECF or further, he'll sign somewhere else next year. If he turns out to be a beast in the playoffs I can see the Caps trying to retain him.

Robert Theodorson 12-28-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SDBondra (Post 41557385)
I think he'll play out his season here. Unless he is awesome in the playoffs and gets us to the ECF or further, he'll sign somewhere else next year. If he turns out to be a beast in the playoffs I can see the Caps trying to retain him.

Dwayne Roloson 2.0

I don't see him back next year, he's playing for a final payday, one he might not get due to our porous defense.

NeilYoung 12-28-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SwedeSpeedBackstrom (Post 41559529)
Dwayne Roloson 2.0

I don't see him back next year, he's playing for a final payday, one he might not get due to our porous defense.

Ya it's not at all Vokouns fault most goalies let in one or two backbreaking goals a game right?

txpd 12-28-2011 10:19 PM

any chance? sure. if the season ended today, no. but we dont know where this is going. it needs to play out.

Hivemind 12-28-2011 10:23 PM

At this point, it's highly unlikely that McPhee makes a push to retain Vokoun or that Vokoun particularly wants to stay here. A few months from now, who knows.

Mothra 12-28-2011 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SwedeSpeedBackstrom (Post 41559529)
Dwayne Roloson 2.0

I don't see him back next year, he's playing for a final payday, one he might not get due to our porous defense.

you gotta be kidding.....while the team D has not been good....the goaltending has been awful.

A top goalie, which is what he is supposed to be, can bail out mistakes here and there. If he werent letting soft goals in on a regular basis you might be on to something. As it stands, he looks slow, his rebound control terrible, and in general...a player who just doesnt have a lot of confidence. Hopefully he finds it soon

Dirtbag59 12-29-2011 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by txpd (Post 41584123)
any chance? sure. if the season ended today, no. but we dont know where this is going. it needs to play out.

What does the pace say. The pace is absolute. Though shalt not doubt the pace. :sarcasm:

txpd 12-29-2011 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59 (Post 41594589)
What does the pace say. The pace is absolute. Though shalt not doubt the pace. :sarcasm:

go on. please. flesh that out a little more

MD Moose 12-29-2011 10:59 AM

It was interesting to hear last night that 28 other teams had no interest in him. I'll say this, he has looked shakier than any Caps goalie in a while. Frankly I think we need to get Holtby up and playing, he's looked better than any of them really.

txpd 12-29-2011 11:44 AM

are you keeping up with holtby in hershey?

bonzaibondra12 12-29-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by txpd (Post 41602789)
are you keeping up with holtby in hershey?

Holtby put up much better numbers in the NHL than AHL last year. yes i know we are talking 14 games v 30. Still a significant sample size.

Makes no sense as to why, but it happened.

MD Moose 12-29-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bonzaibondra12 (Post 41602921)
Holtby put up much better numbers in the NHL than AHL last year. yes i know we are talking 14 games v 30. Still a significant sample size.

Makes no sense as to why, but it happened.

Yes. I know the numbers may not look good, but he has an on ice quality about him that I like.

The way the goalie situation has gone, what do they have to lose by bringing him up and give it a go? Better now than wait til near the end of the season.

ChibiPooky 12-29-2011 12:07 PM

I disagree. I think the last thing the team needs now is any hint of instability in net. Throwing a new guy into the mix does nothing to build trust or confidence.

MD Moose 12-29-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChibiPooky (Post 41603519)
I disagree. I think the last thing the team needs now is any hint of instability in net. Throwing a new guy into the mix does nothing to build trust or confidence.

Vokoun has looked like the epitome of instability

Fallschirmyager 12-29-2011 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MD Moose (Post 41603565)
Vokoun has looked like the epitome of instability

So has the entire team. I think TV is just like the rest of the team. A short stretch of quality play could reestablish their confidence and they'd be off and running. It's just not happening right now for some reason.

bags92 12-29-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MD Moose (Post 41601555)
It was interesting to hear last night that 28 other teams had no interest in him. I'll say this, he has looked shakier than any Caps goalie in a while. Frankly I think we need to get Holtby up and playing, he's looked better than any of them really.

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Originally Posted by txpd (Post 41602789)
are you keeping up with holtby in hershey?

I've been thinking this for about a week now. Yes Holtby hasn't put up anything special in Hershey but is he really gonna be any worse than Vokoun and Neuvy have been? I really think it's time to give Holtby a shot and see how he does.

Ovechkins Wodka 12-29-2011 03:04 PM

i like the idea of trading him more and more

Badger36 12-29-2011 03:07 PM

I think he plays out the season and then gets traded or released. IMO, Neuvirth is the future in Washington.

NobodyBeatsTheWiz 12-29-2011 03:24 PM

Was has Neuvirth done to convince anyone he's the future in DC?

Vokoun's not being traded this year unless another vet is brought in. It would make no sense, whatsoever, to a team with Cup aspirations.

Hivemind 12-29-2011 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bonzaibondra12 (Post 41602921)
Holtby put up much better numbers in the NHL than AHL last year. yes i know we are talking 14 games v 30. Still a significant sample size.

Makes no sense as to why, but it happened.

That is not even close to a significant sample size, even combined.

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Originally Posted by Ovechkins Wodka (Post 41609633)
i like the idea of trading him more and more

He has a No Movement Clause.

NobodyBeatsTheWiz 12-29-2011 03:36 PM

Their numbers this year:

Vokoun: 13-8-0; 2.67 GAA, .913
Neuvirth: 5-7-2; 3.24 GAA, .887

Vokoun's sitting at #25 in save percentage among qualified NHL goalies right now, but his .913 is pretty close to being NHL average (which I think was .916 last season, IIRC). Neuvirth is 44th of 46 qualifying goalies, with only Roloson and Mason being worse.

Considering their numbers, and the fact that Vokoun is typically a slow starter, I really hope Hunter rides Vokoun for the bulk of the remaining games.

Hivemind 12-29-2011 03:39 PM

Woooo! One of our goaltenders is almost average! :laugh:

:cry:

ChibiPooky 12-29-2011 03:47 PM

Didn't somebody post a while ago that Holtby couldn't be brought up for cap reasons? Is that still the case?

brs03 12-29-2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ChibiPooky (Post 41611089)
Didn't somebody post a while ago that Holtby couldn't be brought up for cap reasons? Is that still the case?

With Eakin down it probably isn't anymore (almost exactly the same cap hit) but with Beagle back and Green on the cusp they'd need a roster spot somewhere.


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