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MaxV 01-05-2012 10:23 PM

2013 WJC Russian Roster
 
Tough loss tonight.

Who do you guys think are good candidates for next year's roster?

Please tell me there are defense-men that can actually win battles along the boards and don't turn the puck over every time they touch it.

boris4c 01-05-2012 10:53 PM

Here is the list of eligible players for next year:

Goalkeepers

Makarov, Andrei
Vasilevskiy, Andrei

Defenders

Sergeyev, Artem
Naumenkov, Mikhail
Nesterov, Nikita

Forwards

Kucherov, Nikita
Yakupov, Nail
Grigorenko, Mikhail
Kosov, Yaroslav
Khokhlachev, Alexander

It's a good thing that both goaltenders are eligible to play for next year especially considering the tremendous experience they've gained from this year. I also think the group of forwards is a solid one but I'm assuming some of them might not be released should they do good in the NHL. I'm thinking of Yakupov primarily but Grigorenko is also a possibility.

Bure 01-05-2012 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boris4c (Post 41992309)
Here is the list of eligible players for next year:

Goalkeepers

Makarov, Andrei
Vasilevskiy, Andrei


Defenders

Sergeyev, Artem
Naumenkov, Mikhail
Nesterov, Nikita


Forwards

Kucherov, Nikita
Yakupov, Nail
Grigorenko, Mikhail
Kosov, Yaroslav
Khokhlachev, Alexander

It's a good thing that both goaltenders are eligible to play for next year especially considering the tremendous experience they've gained from this year. I also think the group of forwards is a solid one but I'm assuming some of them might not be released should they do good in the NHL. I'm thinking of Yakupov primarily but Grigorenko is also a possibility.


These guys should be returning. A good group of returning players.

On another note, was I ever disappointed in Kucherov's effort tonight, hopefully he was just out of energy.

EDIT: If Grig doesn't make the NHL next year, Khokhlachev Namestnikov Grigorenko up the middle would be awesome.

boris4c 01-06-2012 02:34 AM

Namestnikov won't be eligible though.

cska78 01-06-2012 07:09 AM

Generation of 93's is kinda meh, but together with 94's we should have a competent team.

MaxV 01-06-2012 07:59 AM

Kucherov can stay home. I don't want him on the team.

Horrible performance yesterday.

He was just staring at the puck the whole game.

Zine 01-06-2012 12:01 PM

F
Grigorenko (94)
Kucherov
Yakupov
Prokhorkin
Khokhlachev
Kosov
Slepyshev (94)
Shalunov
Shmelev
Zharkov (94)
Kamaev (94)
Zlobin
Kadeikin

D
Nesterov
Naumenkov
Sergeev
Yarullin
Pedan
Saveliev
Vasilevsky
Osipov

G
Vasilevsky(94)
Makarov


This can be a really impressive team. The D is solid by Russian standards.

cska78 01-06-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zine (Post 42008797)
F
Grigorenko (94)
Kucherov
Yakupov
Prokhorkin
Khokhlachev
Kosov
Slepyshev (94)
Shalunov
Shmelev
Zharkov (94)
Kamaev (94)
Zlobin
Kadeikin

D
Nesterov
Naumenkov
Sergeev
Yarullin
Pedan
Saveliev
Vasilevsky
Osipov

G
Vasilevsky(94)
Makarov


This can be a really impressive team. The D is solid by Russian standards.

good team hands down, but if we don't have Grigorenko and Yakupov (which very-very likely) it's not all that good all of a sudden

Bure 01-06-2012 12:38 PM

I hope Shalunov starts trying if he makes the team...

Felix Perreault 01-06-2012 01:05 PM

Nichushkin or Barbashev or Dikushin ?? 1 of the 3 ?? (if Yaku and grigo can't)

And At the D, Kirill Dyakov ?

Helpoing 01-07-2012 12:30 PM

Why don't consider Kapustin and Osnovin?

pouskin74* 01-07-2012 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cska78 (Post 42001079)
Generation of 93's is kinda meh, but together with 94's we should have a competent team.

whats wrong with 93??

pouskin74* 01-07-2012 06:52 PM

I think Yakupov and Grigorenko will be definitely in NHL next season so we can count them off.

Coramoor 01-07-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zine (Post 42008797)
F
Grigorenko (94)
Kucherov
Yakupov
Prokhorkin
Khokhlachev
Kosov
Slepyshev (94)
Shalunov
Shmelev
Zharkov (94)
Kamaev (94)
Zlobin
Kadeikin

D
Nesterov
Naumenkov
Sergeev
Yarullin
Pedan
Saveliev
Vasilevsky
Osipov

G
Vasilevsky(94)
Makarov


This can be a really impressive team. The D is solid by Russian standards.

what exactly is solid by russian standards? if there is one place that the russians are extremely weak, it's defense

pouskin74* 01-07-2012 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxV (Post 42001733)
Kucherov can stay home. I don't want him on the team.

Horrible performance yesterday.

He was just staring at the puck the whole game.

overreacting

Bure 01-07-2012 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coramoor (Post 42092913)
what exactly is solid by russian standards? if there is one place that the russians are extremely weak, it's defense

Means this years D which is worse got them to the finals, and next years D is going to be better, which means its solid by Russian standard.

pouskin74* 01-08-2012 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coramoor (Post 42092913)
what exactly is solid by russian standards? if there is one place that the russians are extremely weak, it's defense

extremely weak is Latvian defense but not Russian.

cska78 01-08-2012 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pouskin74 (Post 42092559)
whats wrong with 93??

blatnye, looser-mentality, disgraceful losses galore

Fulcrum 01-08-2012 03:37 PM

Assuming that everyone will be available (I know Yakupov and Grigo probably won't) but ideally I would like to see:

Kosov - Grigorenko - Yakupov
Shalunov - Prokhorkin - Kucherov
Slepyshev - Khokhlachev - Zlobin
Shmelev/Yakimov - Kadeikin - Nichushkin

Of course, some will improve significantly, and some will stagnate, which makes it really hard to guess right now. And as usual, there will be someone who surprises and plays well in KHL at the beginning of next season, like Kosov this year, or even Zemchenko...

I know Kucherov and my guess is he never got back in shape after his SSS injury. He looked good only in the 1st game, but after he looked slow and obviously tired. He wasn't even 1/2 of himself...

Rob 01-08-2012 06:46 PM

There is a rumour that the Canadian and Russian junior teams will be playing some games against each other this Summer. Two in Russia and two back in Canada.
I think it may hold some validity as Canada will be hold a training camp in Russia this August.

vorky 01-08-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 42152279)
There is a rumour that the Canadian and Russian junior teams will be playing some games against each other this Summer. Two in Russia and two back in Canada.
I think it may hold some validity as Canada will be hold a training camp in Russia this August.

According my info it is not rumour but fact.

Bure 01-08-2012 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 42152279)
There is a rumour that the Canadian and Russian junior teams will be playing some games against each other this Summer. Two in Russia and two back in Canada.
I think it may hold some validity as Canada will be hold a training camp in Russia this August.

At this moment, it's not really a rumour, just some things need to be finalized.

pouskin74* 01-09-2012 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cska78 (Post 42124847)
blatnye, looser-mentality, disgraceful losses galore

even worse could have sayed about age group 91. what was outcome in the end?

cska78 01-09-2012 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pouskin74 (Post 42172601)
even worse could have sayed about age group 91. what was outcome in the end?

yes, I was very pessimistic in the beginning, but with 91 MHL was just started and I didn't know as many players as I do now. We'll see, it's gonna be tough at home without true leaders.

Botta 01-09-2012 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coramoor (Post 42092913)
what exactly is solid by russian standards? if there is one place that the russians are extremely weak, it's defense

Not that I know so much about russian defenders at the junior level, but I wonder how much information you have about them?Do you get to see MHL or KHL?


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