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Drewp 01-06-2012 12:46 PM

Anisimov long-term
 
I remember Anisimov was being hyped as the Rangers next #1 center about a year ago, he had a 20 goal season and was expected to bust out this year... the fact that he hasn't... does that hurt his potential... I mean is he now considered more like a 2nd or 3rd line center long term?

pld459666 01-06-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Drewp (Post 42010771)
I remember Anisimov was being hyped as the Rangers next #1 center about a year ago, he had a 20 goal season and was expected to bust out this year... the fact that he hasn't... does that hurt his potential... I mean is he now considered more like a 2nd or 3rd line center long term?

Don't recall anyone ever calling him the future #1 center.

2nd line tops as potential, but more like a great two way 3rd line center.

we want cup 01-06-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Drewp (Post 42010771)
I remember Anisimov was being hyped as the Rangers next #1 center about a year ago, he had a 20 goal season and was expected to bust out this year... the fact that he hasn't... does that hurt his potential... I mean is he now considered more like a 2nd or 3rd line center long term?

Really? I don't think many folks here ever said AA was capable of being a true #1 center.

If he continues to flourish on the wing, hopefully he has what it takes to put up numbers like Frolov did in his prime. If he moves back to C, he will be a #2 or #3.

Bleed Ranger Blue 01-06-2012 12:53 PM

Personally, Im not all that enamored with Anisimov's game. He's a solid player thats not particularly great at anything.

I dont think he'll be a longterm fixture.

SingnBluesOnBroadway 01-06-2012 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue (Post 42011103)
Personally, Im not all that enamored with Anisimov's game. He's a solid player thats not particularly great at anything.

I dont think he'll be a longterm fixture.

I tend to agree. I also think he's a bit soft.

wolfgaze 01-06-2012 12:56 PM

He certainly fits right now but in the future? Who knows... Still has consistency issues IMHO...

pld459666 01-06-2012 01:00 PM

don;t think he will ever be ornery, but I think that with time and experience, he can become a bit mor stiiff to play against.

I like the elements he brings to the team.

MortUWary 01-06-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Drewp (Post 42010771)
I remember Anisimov was being hyped as the Rangers next #1 center about a year ago, he had a 20 goal season and was expected to bust out this year... the fact that he hasn't... does that hurt his potential... I mean is he now considered more like a 2nd or 3rd line center long term?

He's only 23 and is playing in his 3rd full NHL season. His points per game have increased each season (.34 in 09-10, .54 in 10-11 and .59 this year). BTW, he's never scored 20 goals in a season (18 in the regular season and 1 in the playoffs last year though).

I still see him as a Top 6 forward, but the fact of the matter is that he's a valuable trade chip if he becomes too expensive to sign as an RFA. I just don't see giving him Dubi money in two years. I do like the kid though, but it's kind of the same admiration that I had for a similar goofy enigmatic Russian (Kovalev) in the mid-90s. Granted, he's not as flashy or talented, but I like his quirkiness and flashes of skill. Seems like a good kid.

Blue Blooded 01-06-2012 01:17 PM

Anisimov has the Christensen wrist-shot, it's almost as hard and accurate as Gabby's, but while Gabby has perhaps the best release in the league, Anisimov takes forever to get his shot off. If he could improve his release, he has 30+ goal potential IMO.

MSG the place to be* 01-06-2012 01:21 PM

Anisimov is like a 2.343 line center with the potential to be a 1.469 line center. Give or take a couple thousandths. #screwlinelabeling

Machinehead 01-06-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MSG the place to be (Post 42012597)
Anisimov is like a 2.343 line center with the potential to be a 1.469 line center. Give or take a couple thousandths. #screwlinelabeling

Anisimov is offended by your gratuitous hash tagging.

McRanger 01-06-2012 01:26 PM

He is excellent on the defensive side of the puck, offensively he reminds me of Nedved. Tall and lanky, easy to knock off the puck at times, underrated vision and with a rocket of a wrist shot which he doesn't use enough and usually ends up hitting the defenseman in the shin.

The things that frustrates me the most with him is how sometimes he can be so incredibly slick with the puck, and other times he can handle it like a hand grenade. Especially in tight near the net. It is so bipolar.

Can't see why he would be outside the teams long term plans, especially with how well he has played on the wing.

Jumbo* 01-06-2012 01:31 PM

#1 center?

Only the crazy people said that.

He was always slated to be a good #2 center as he is. He will be a decent 20G/50P scorer most of his career.

Machinehead 01-06-2012 01:31 PM

Anisimov is a good little player and it's all gonna depend on what it takes to keep him here. For the right price I'll take him on my team any day of the week.

Jumbo* 01-06-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SingnBluesOnBroadway (Post 42011187)
I tend to agree. I also think he's a bit soft.

He's not soft at all. He's not ryan hollweg but he goes into dirty areas all the time and takes hits. He also throws plenty as well.

egelband 01-06-2012 01:37 PM

i feel like i expect too much too soon from players. and some of them just dont develop as quickly as id like. i would like the rangers to really be patient with this guy. i have a feeling he'll reward patience. not sure why. he doesn't make many mistakes either. pretty reliable with a pretty nice upside i think. as a previous poster mentioned, he's still very young.

BlueshirtBlitz 01-06-2012 02:07 PM

Everybody always uses the age defense for shiny new toys, but it seems Arty is a little old now.

He's 23.

He's going to have a very good career.

Zuccarello Awesome* 01-06-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by APuckHog (Post 42013163)
He's not soft at all. He's not ryan hollweg but he goes into dirty areas all the time and takes hits. He also throws plenty as well.

Throws plenty of what? Kisses? He does not hit nearly as much as he could. That's been my biggest gripe with him since day one.

Jumbo* 01-06-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuccarello Awesome (Post 42015363)
Throws plenty of what? Kisses? He does not hit nearly as much as he could. That's been my biggest gripe with him since day one.

:laugh:

Alright, I guess he doesn't throw a ton of hits, but he doesn't shy away I guess is what I mean. He takes a beating out there with the puck since he likes to hold onto it instead of dishes it off the second it touches his stick.

Zuccarello Awesome* 01-06-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by APuckHog (Post 42015603)
:laugh:

Alright, I guess he doesn't throw a ton of hits, but he doesn't shy away I guess is what I mean. He takes a beating out there with the puck since he likes to hold onto it instead of dishes it off the second it touches his stick.

That I'll agree on. Unlike Gaborik, Anisimov is capable of holding onto the puck while receiving a hit. This is probably gaboriks worst quality. If he's about to get hit, he never will just eat the puck or try to bounce off the check. He gets rid of it like its got herpes. Anisimov definitely does a good job down low and can take some punishment, but I do wish he'd be more proactive in initiating contact.

Miller Time NYR 01-06-2012 02:30 PM

anisimov, #1center? i dont recall :huh:

xxxZENxxx 01-06-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by APuckHog (Post 42013163)
He's not soft at all. He's not ryan hollweg but he goes into dirty areas all the time and takes hits. He also throws plenty as well.

He does indeed go into the dirty areas, but he also gets run over by players half his size. I would clarify the description as 'soft on the puck' rather than soft in the sense of shying away from contact.

SingnBluesOnBroadway 01-06-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by APuckHog (Post 42013163)
He's not soft at all. He's not ryan hollweg but he goes into dirty areas all the time and takes hits. He also throws plenty as well.

I don't see it. He seems to shrink when teams play physical (the Caps and recently against Philly). But to Bleed Ranger Blue's point, I don't really know what he does where he's a plus player.

xxxZENxxx 01-06-2012 02:39 PM

In general, Animisov is a solid two-way player who is quite inconsistent on the offensive side of the puck. He is not a guy you go out of your way to trade, but he is a guy you move to get a better offensive player. There should be some big names available in the next 2 months and this team looks to be on the cusp, so guys like AA and Dubi could be on the move if it means bringing in an elite scorer at forward or on the back end to put us over the top.

ColonialsHockey10 01-06-2012 02:42 PM

He most certainly has the potential to score 70 points and be great defensively (a 1st line center).

At the moment his awesome shot is hampered by his release, which is slow as molasses. He lacks a sense of urgency as well, and goes long stretches where you won't notice him at all. Defensively he's very good, but he's struggling to put everything together offensively. Every once in awhile he dominates games and you see what he's capable of. I love Ansimov, but he hasn't been as good as I expected this season.

Everyone loves them, but I'm not a huge fan of the Anisimov-Stepan-Gaborik line yet, because I feel only 2 of it's 3 engines are running.


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