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FlyerFire 01-07-2012 10:14 AM

So far, so good
 
Voracek 12 goals 19 assists 31 points
Simmonds 10 goals 08 assists 18 points
Couturier 5 goals 06 assists 11 ponts
Schenn 1 goal 01 assist 2 points
total 28 goals 34 assists 62 points


Richards 13 goals 10 assists 23 points
Carter 10 goals 7 assists 17 points
total 23 goals 17 assists 40 points

Four Boilermakers 01-07-2012 10:45 AM

Carter (foot) and Richards (head) have both missed significant time due to injuries.

WeekendAtBernies 01-07-2012 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyerFire (Post 42053907)
Voracek 12 goals 19 assists 31 points

These would be Jaromir Jagr's stats... not Voracek's. Voracek has 6 goals, 18 assists, 24 points.

FlyerFire 01-07-2012 10:50 AM

Yea thats true about voraceks stats my bad, read long line :(( However Schenn has missed significant time as well, Couturier some as well

brucewaynegretzky 01-07-2012 10:57 AM

This is stupid. You're comparing four people to two and ignoring cap hits. O and Bryz's stats suck and since we moved them to make room for him as well this makes no sense. I'll give you a better comparison:

This time last year 1st in the east with Richards and Carter and going strong. This year, 4th and struggling.

RebelMe 01-07-2012 10:59 AM

That's fantasy-league thinking, because it's not counting the huge potential upside of Couturier and Schenn.

FlyerFire 01-07-2012 11:06 AM

My only point being the experts saying the HUGE dropoff in goals. My stats just prove that while they are great players, we havent dropped off the face of the earth in their trades, fair enough?????????????

FlyersFan61290 01-07-2012 11:07 AM

I don't think comparing the numbers tells the whole story. Obviously the players would have performed differently on different teams (playing with different players) not to mention the other things like injury plus what brucewaynegretzky.

@brucewaynegretzky nice avatar. Obviously a fan of Batman based on the name and pic but overall Marvel or DC?

Ironmanrulez 01-07-2012 11:17 AM

But Richards and Carter bringing a lot more to the table than "just" goals and assists.

__________________________________________________ _________________
Richards: Leadership, Grit, very good shotdown play, pk goal scoring, party mentality, face of the franchise, loved by fans

Carter: Goalscoring, high shooting, Goalscoring, high shooting, solid 2 way game, party mentality, all blaming him for everything^^, hated by fans


__________________________________________________ ___________________

Voracek: solid 2way game, good playmaker, hard working guy, uses his body good
Simmonds: hard working guy, good net presence, dirty area player
Couturier: huge defensive game, high hockey sense, huge potential, solid offensive game, good playmaker
Schenn: solid 3rd line player till now, nothing special


So we loose a bit of goal scoring in this trades. But with the potential of all this players we will be better after 1 or 2 seasons...

But we also got Jagr and Read who are our new goal scorers, and donīt shoot high and wide. We got Max who is a fan favourite instantly. And we got Bryzgalov who is the new most hated player by the fans...

So in my opinion we loose Experience and Leadership and we loose PK Goalscoring....


So all in all, itīs ok...

But lets wait how the youngster develop and mainly if Bryz can step up big time. If he can it will be a really good team in the next years...

FlyersFan61290 01-07-2012 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironmanrulez (Post 42055699)
So in my opinion we loose Experience and Leadership and we loose PK Goalscoring....

From missing Carter? :sarcasm:

Codith 01-07-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucewaynegretzky (Post 42055069)
This is stupid. You're comparing four people to two and ignoring cap hits. O and Bryz's stats suck and since we moved them to make room for him as well this makes no sense. I'll give you a better comparison:

This time last year 1st in the east with Richards and Carter and going strong. This year, 4th and struggling.



You make 4th sound like we are 5 miles behind, we are only 6 points behind NY, 3 behind the bruins.

We have had tons of injuries, and we have been playing 5-7 rookies at a time.

Also our goaltending has been pretty bad.


We could easily be in first place right now if it wasn't for these set backs, so don't make it sound like we are toast when we are pretty much still in the thick of things.

nuclear reactor 01-07-2012 12:08 PM

The Carter trade is a no-brainer at this point. Of course the beach boy is injured again and still moping. The return has been awesome.

Just getting rid of a malignancy like Richards is a win enough.


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