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LatvianTwist 01-07-2012 02:48 PM

2007 NHL Redraft
 
Anyone's available, you can do top 5-30, whatever you want.

My top 15:

1. Patrick Kane
2. Jamie Benn
3. Logan Couture
4. P.K. Subban
5. James van Riemsdyk
6. Max Pacioretty
7. David Perron
8. Jakub Voracek
9. Karl Alzner
10. Sam Gagner
11. Jonathan Blum
12. Wayne Simmonds
13. Ryan McDonagh
14. Kevin Shattenkirk
15. Keaton Ellerby

HM: Lars Eller, Kyle Turris, Eric Tangradi, Dana Tyrell.

Didn't see one, but if there is one, just link me up please.

Seto 01-07-2012 02:59 PM

Shattenkirk and McDonaugh should ne higher.

Pentothal 01-07-2012 03:25 PM

Hagelin has broke through this year and might deserve consideration. Carl Gunnarsson is doing well for the Maple Leafs. Then there's Omark the enigma.

Weak draft from a Swedish viewpoint.

wickedwitch 01-07-2012 03:26 PM

The Caps would still take Alzner.

SLAPSHOT723 01-07-2012 03:27 PM

1) Patrick Kane
2) Jamie Benn
3) Logan Couture
4) James vanRiemsdyk
5) PK Subban
6) David Perron
7) Jakub Voracek
8) Kevin Shattenkirk
9) Max Pacioretty
10) Ryan McDonagh
11) Lars Eller
12) Wayne Simmonds
13) Karl Alzner
14) Brandon Sutter
15) Sam Gagner
16) Jonathan Blum

DaveG 01-07-2012 03:28 PM

No Sutter? Homer pick I know but I'd take him over anyone on that list below Voracek.

1 - Kane
2 - Benn
3 - Couture
4 - JVR
5 - Subban
6 - Voracek
7 - Sutter
8 - MaxPac
9 - Perron
10 - Shattenkirk
11 - Simmonds
12 - McDonagh
13 - Eller
14 - Alzner
15 - Gagner

Benny FTW 01-07-2012 03:28 PM

Kane

Benn
Couture

JVR
Subban
McDonagh

Shattenkirk
Alzner
Voracek
Perron
Pacioretty


Eller
Sutter
Simmonds
Gagner

skroob** 01-07-2012 03:52 PM

RIP Chere.

Granlund2Pulkkinen* 01-07-2012 04:46 PM

Galiardi should be first round.

CraigC 01-07-2012 04:49 PM

Wow Alzner gets no love.

Seto 01-07-2012 04:53 PM

Kane
Benn
Couture
Shattenkirk
Alzner
McDonaugh
JVR
Simmonds
Subban

Vincent01 01-07-2012 05:03 PM

1. Patrick Kane
2. Jamie Benn
3. Logan Couture
4. P.K. Subban
5. James Van Riemsdyk
6. Max Pacioretty
7. David Perron
8. Kevin Shattenkirk
9. Ryan McDonaugh
10. Jakub Voracek
11. Wayne Simmonds
12. Lars Eller
13. Brandon Sutter
14. Sam Gagner
15. Jonathon Blum

Seto 01-07-2012 05:27 PM

Weird that Philly has three in the top 20 right?

crazy Kassian 01-07-2012 05:29 PM

ugh pretty bad draft

Everyone agrees with the bolded

Kane
Benn
Couture

Subban
Pacioretty
Perron
JVR
McDonagh
Shattenkirk
Alzner
Sutter
Voracek
Simmonds
Blum
Eller

4 players with relations to the Habs, cool

Granlund2Pulkkinen* 01-07-2012 05:35 PM

No mention of Galiardi whatsoever.

WJG 01-07-2012 05:36 PM

1. Patrick Kane
2. Logan Couture
3. Jamie Benn
4. PK Subban
5. James van Reimsdyk
6. Max Pacioretty
7. David Perron
8. Kevin Shattenkirk
9. Alexei Cherepanov (R.I.P.)
10. Ryan McDonagh

crazy Kassian 01-07-2012 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Granlund2Pulkkinen (Post 42086789)
No mention of Galiardi whatsoever.

Should be a honourable mention

I think Simmonds is a better player, Blum and Eller have more potential

Galiardi was a beast in the playoffs though

Granlund2Pulkkinen* 01-07-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hodgson (Post 42086897)
Should be a honourable mention

I think Simmonds is a better player, Blum and Eller have more potential

Galiardi was a beast in the playoffs though

I certainly agree Simmonds is better. I dunno about Blum/Eller having more potential.

If I were to make a top 30 I'd put Galiardi somewhere between 15-25.

His numbers don't speak for themselves. His play does.

HooliganX2 01-07-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hodgson (Post 42086445)
ugh pretty bad draft

Everyone agrees with the bolded

Kane
Benn
Couture

Subban
Pacioretty
Perron
JVR
McDonagh
Shattenkirk
Alzner
Sutter
Voracek
Simmonds
Blum
Eller

4 players with relations to the Habs, cool

I wouldn't say it's a bad draft at all. Maybe not much elite talent but some really good players all the same. 4-5 guys with PPG potential. Shattenkirk can be a 50-60 point defenseman.

ColonialsHockey10 01-07-2012 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent01 (Post 42084887)
1. Patrick Kane
2. Jamie Benn
3. Logan Couture
4. P.K. Subban
5. James Van Riemsdyk
6. Max Pacioretty
7. David Perron
8. Kevin Shattenkirk
9. Ryan McDonaugh
10. Jakub Voracek
11. Wayne Simmonds
12. Lars Eller
13. Brandon Sutter
14. Sam Gagner
15. Jonathon Blum

No bias whatsoever here.

SensontheRush 01-07-2012 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HooliganX2 (Post 42089667)
I wouldn't say it's a bad draft at all. Maybe not much elite talent but some really good players all the same. 4-5 guys with PPG potential. Shattenkirk can be a 50-60 point defenseman.

Just no, Shattenkirk will never reach 50 points...I'm sorry.

ct2111 01-07-2012 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensontheRush (Post 42093339)
Just no, Shattenkirk will never reach 50 points...I'm sorry.

He had 43 points in his rookie season. On pace for 42 points this season. Pretty premature to say he'll never reach 50.

HighLifeMan 01-07-2012 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensontheRush (Post 42093339)
Just no, Shattenkirk will never reach 50 points...I'm sorry.

He's on pace for a 40 point season at the age of twenty two.

It is certainly a plausible prediction based on his production to this point in his career.

HooliganX2 01-07-2012 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensontheRush (Post 42093339)
Just no, Shattenkirk will never reach 50 points...I'm sorry.

Wow you must have never seen him play. He had 43 points as a rookie in 62 games last season. I know ppg pace is not always accurate but that was a pace for 56 points last season. The Blues forwards have been struggling to finish goals this season that is why his points are currently down. Also if you take his point per game it's .6237. That puts him at 51 points average over 82 games

Panopticon 01-07-2012 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan (Post 42093805)
He's on pace for a 40 point season at the age of twenty two.

It is certainly a plausible prediction based on his production to this point in his career.

HFBoards is hard to follow. Sometimes it's "If a player scores x amount of points in his rookie season, he will peak at x times 1.5 (or in some cases, 2)" and sometimes it's "if a player scores x amount of points in his rookie season, he will never score more". Of course, that's how it works in real life. Some rookie scores 60 and never tops it, some score 60 and peak at 100+. But the certainty that some posters have about their predictions is really impressive. I'm not even that sure of myself when I'm posting facts, let alone when predicting the future.

I think a 10 point increase over his rookie season is a fairly reasonable prediction, especially over a full season.


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