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moog35 01-07-2012 07:20 PM

Dale Weise - Total Beauty
 
I have been very critical of the lack of toughness the Canucks have shown this season but credit must be given where its due. Weise isn't much of a fighter but hes always there to have his teammates back, he sticks up for himself he doesn't totally suck on the 4th line and best of all he doesn't take stupid penalties. Kind of a ***** move with the Thornton challenge but he did just have a great tilt with Horton

arsmaster 01-07-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by moog35 (Post 42095391)
I have been very critical of the lack of toughness the Canucks have shown this season but credit must be given where its due. Weise isn't much of a fighter but hes always there to have his teammates back, he sticks up for himself he doesn't totally suck on the 4th line and best of all he doesn't take stupid penalties. Kind of a ***** move with the Thornton challenge but he did just have a great tilt with Horton

Not if you ask Don Cherry!

Why would Weise fight Thornton, it had nothing to do with the game at all, it was a smart play, one he should not have gotten a penalty for.

So if you throw your gloves on the ice, does the guy your glove lands closest to get 2 minutes for unsportsmanlike?

NHL=BUSH LEAGUE

Haka 01-07-2012 07:23 PM

Thornton was pretty confused in his post game comments about what happened there, he said that Weiss said, "lets go" but maybe Weiss planned on fighting McQuaid instead, but from the video that we saw it didn't appear like that.

Thornton probably would have tooled Weiss, so I'm glad he didn't fight him but if he did bail out of the fight after saying he would that's super lame.

Otherwise a good game by Weiss tonight.

ahmon 01-07-2012 07:24 PM

I love how he pulled out of the thornton fight.

Why should canucks middleweight fight a heavyweight.

Seriously the bruins crying the canucks are not tough, but pick lopsided fights?

If anything Thornton's IQ should be in question.

NugentHopkinsfan 01-07-2012 07:24 PM

I was very impressed with him today. Would be nice if he wasn't our toughest forward but at least he showed some toughness in Boston, something Oreo/Glass were terrified of doing in the playoffs.

Scottrockztheworld* 01-07-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by moog35 (Post 42095391)
I have been very critical of the lack of toughness the Canucks have shown this season but credit must be given where its due. Weise isn't much of a fighter but hes always there to have his teammates back, he sticks up for himself he doesn't totally suck on the 4th line and best of all he doesn't take stupid penalties. Kind of a ***** move with the Thornton challenge but he did just have a great tilt with Horton

I know a lot of people didn't like it but I laughed my ass off at that part! Why should Weise (who fought already) fight a true enforcer like Thornton?

IMO Thornton was an idiot for throwing the gloves down as fast as he did.

Kagee* 01-07-2012 07:27 PM

Finally fought yeah, but that was a bit weak how he looked when he seemed like he wanted to go, but backed off after.

The Big Foot 01-07-2012 07:27 PM

Count me among the less than impressed crowd. If he's going to be our fourth line enforcer he just has to do a better job than that. Maybe it's just HBO playing with my head but I wish we had Mike Rupp on that fourth line instead of Weise. I don't think Weise earned a lot of respect today around the league.

Crows* 01-07-2012 07:29 PM

Chris Neil Please.

arsmaster 01-07-2012 07:30 PM

He's not there to enforce, as could be seen by him being on the ice with Kesler and the Sedins at times...he is a Canuck because he can play hockey and is willing.

It used to be a good play for someone to get the enforcer to drop his mitts first....should have been a Canuck PP.

Huntershin Karuk 01-07-2012 07:30 PM

Don't want any part of Neil. Undisciplined as hell.

Bleach Clean 01-07-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by arsmaster (Post 42095843)
Not if you ask Don Cherry!

Why would Weise fight Thornton, it had nothing to do with the game at all, it was a smart play, one he should not have gotten a penalty for.

So if you throw your gloves on the ice, does the guy your glove lands closest to get 2 minutes for unsportsmanlike?

NHL=BUSH LEAGUE


Should not have been a penalty, but he also should not have tried to goad Thornton there. He was doing just fine before he did that. I didn't like it. He just needs to play his game - stop trying to be an enforcer because you aren't one and aren't expected to be one.

Catamarca Livin 01-07-2012 07:35 PM

Weise threw a couple good hits had good fight and was very vocal. Good game for him. He is not an enforcer he is secondary toughness who can bang and play abit.

Reign Nateo 01-07-2012 07:36 PM

Don't know why people are acting like this is some new move, literally one of the oldest tricks in the book. Used to be a PP though.

Weise was an underrated pickup, forget its really his first year.

JonnyCash 01-07-2012 07:41 PM

I'm a HUGE Weise supporter. I honestly don't see anything wrong with his game at this point.

People who say they are not happy with him being our 'heavyweight', well he's not a heavyweight - it's the way our team is built, we simply don't have room for a goon.

Bleach Clean 01-07-2012 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Reign Nateo (Post 42097389)
Don't know why people are acting like this is some new move, literally one of the oldest tricks in the book. Used to be a PP though.

Weise was an underrated pickup, forget its really his first year.


He just didn't need to do it at that point.

Kagee* 01-07-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleach Clean (Post 42098593)
He just didn't need to do it at that point.

Yeah he still got a penalty anyways for that.

NugentHopkinsfan 01-07-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Catamarca Livin (Post 42097319)
Weise threw a couple good hits had good fight and was very vocal. Good game for him. He is not an enforcer he is secondary toughness who can bang and play abit.

Exactly, he is secondary toughness on a team with NO primary toughness.

moog35 01-07-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NugentHopkinsfan (Post 42095981)
I was very impressed with him today. Would be nice if he wasn't our toughest forward but at least he showed some toughness in Boston, something Oreo/Glass were terrified of doing in the playoffs.

This

David71 01-07-2012 08:15 PM

he's not a fighter. but at least he has hockey skills. to go with it. sometimes he wishes he doesnt havta fight but is willing to stick up for teammates.

Canucker 01-07-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleach Clean (Post 42098593)
He just didn't need to do it at that point.

It's not a matter of needing, not not needing to do it. Thornton obviously instigated it, he wanted a piece of Wiese for going after Horton (the "superstar"). Why not try and egg on the dummy and try and get him to take an undisciplined penalty? This type of gamesmanship has always been around, the only people who chastise it are the dinosaurs who don't like to see big dumb goons made a fool of.

Lonny Bohonos 01-07-2012 08:53 PM

Total ***** move to goad Thorton into a fight then back away towards the refs.

The penalty was well deserved.

Maybe Mr Weiss needs lessons in subtlety.

Bleach Clean 01-07-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Canucker (Post 42102269)
It's not a matter of needing, not not needing to do it. Thornton obviously instigated it, he wanted a piece of Wiese for going after Horton (the "superstar"). Why not try and egg on the dummy and try and get him to take an undisciplined penalty? This type of gamesmanship has always been around, the only people who chastise it are the dinosaurs who don't like to see big dumb goons made a fool of.


It's not a matter of just goading him, he skated back and looked at the ref to save him. If you're gonna do that, take a few to the face to get the penalty. Don't run back to the ref looking like Kronwall on the play...

luongo321 01-07-2012 09:07 PM

The Thorton incident was a failed troll attempt by Weise, but I don't blame him. He had a pretty damn long fight with Horton who is a big guy.

The best part about Weise is that, like you said, he doesn't take stupid penalties. Hardworking and does his job. Solid 4th liner.

Jack Tripper 01-07-2012 09:18 PM

liked everything he did in the boston game except the bait attempt on thornton...like diving, just because it's done around the league doesn't mean i like to see it done by canuck players, especially given how that first period was unfolding and the amount of threats thornton was making to canuck players in the warmup, the first period and throughout the game

i feel kind of bad for him because, even though he's not a natural tough guy, he plays on a team with perhaps the fewest amount of fighters in the league and therefore is thrust into the role as enforcer in rivalry games...i give him full props for showing up (except for the thornton incident) and being able to play a passable regular shift


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