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DonthaveaCOWEN 01-08-2012 11:12 PM

At what point does Lehner get called-up to backup Andy for Playoff Run
 
Just looking at Bingo, they are clearly having a rough year. It's great that Lehner is getting good playing time down there but that team is destined to finish at the bottom of the league by the looks of it.

In more cases than not, after playing yesterday and ALOT lately, McLean would have likely gone to the backup goalie for tonights game versus Philly, however he clearly doesn't have confidence in Auld to spot starts, especially against caliber teams like Philly.

I think we agree that we are "all-in" for the playoffs and there is no turning back. I think the majority also agree that we should "go for it as is" and not mortgage the future for deadline rentals (i.e Sutton, Cullen for picks and prospects). We already made our big splash for Turris. However, it is clear that Auld is not a capable backup to play a stretch of games or playoff games if it came to it. So with Bingo a write off for a year, and the losing environment he's been exposed to for most of the year...at what point do we call up Lehner to back-up Andy for the rest of the season as he'll need a rest here and there down the stretch run so he doesn't fatigue for our long cinderalla playoff run :yo:

Edgeworth* 01-08-2012 11:18 PM

I think the logical thing is to just let this year ride out. Sens have first round pick and a very young team so if they make the playoffs great and if they don't then it's just as good because they get a great pick to grab a D-man.

I don't see Murray calling Lehner up anytime before the playoffs. If they get in then yeah put Lehner up on the big club and let him watch Anderson until he needs to go in but anything before that is just silly.

Shanny 01-08-2012 11:19 PM

Lehner should be up here by April 1st if we all but have a spot locked up, that said, it would be wise to have a worst case scenario plan in place if something happens with Andy.

Before releasing the Lehner, I'd be all for acquiring a Nabokov/Leighton/Sanford for dirt cheap.

Sens Mile 01-08-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shanny (Post 42166983)
Lehner should be up here by April 1st if we all but have a spot locked up, that said, it would be wise to have a worst case scenario plan in place if something happens with Andy.

Before releasing the Lehner, I'd be all for acquiring a Nabokov/Leighton/Sanford for dirt cheap.

Auld is an adequate backup. I am okay if we call up Lehner in April but we should keep in the AHL for a year past this one, why rush him if he will just play back-up?

DonthaveaCOWEN 01-08-2012 11:27 PM

I'm not talking about rushing Lehner at all. He clearly isn't intimidated on the big stage. We are going to be fighting tooth and nail for the playoffs until game 82. Fact is Andy will need games off here and there and some of those games will be against tough opponents at or above our level that our backup will need to stand tall or even steal in some cases. I don't think Auld is that guy. So Lehner is the obvious choice however I'd also have no problem getting another solid backup like the poster above mentioned. How did Marty Turco do in the Spengler?

TSA0402 01-08-2012 11:27 PM

So we are going to promote our future #1 into a backup role?

The Waffler 01-08-2012 11:29 PM

hmm....
















....NAHHHHHH!

Shanny 01-08-2012 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TSA0402 (Post 42167219)
So we are going to promote our future #1 into a backup role?

''IF'' we were to make the playoffs and Bingo missed, he'd be up here ready to go if something were to happen. Wemwould also have another d-man from Bingo(most likely Boroweicki) and a couple of forwards(Hoffman+Da Costa+Petersson) ready to go.

Cujomi 01-08-2012 11:31 PM

He's having his own struggles in the AHL right now. He still needs seasoning. He's not ready.

DonthaveaCOWEN 01-08-2012 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSA0402 (Post 42167219)
So we are going to promote our future #1 into a backup role?

"Cause starters always just go from AHL starter to NHL starter?" -signed Jonathon Bernier, Cory Schneider, Jimmy Howard, Pekka Rinne, Tim Thomas, Tomas Vokoun

All I'm saying that with EVERY game and point being critical, Auld is not the guy down the stretch. If its another backup around the league that will do too

WantEggRoll 01-08-2012 11:36 PM

I'm all down for them bringing up Lehner to start a few times near the end of the year against lesser opponents to keep him hungry for more. In no way should they rush this kid into being our backup for the playoffs or next season though.

Lehner is still only 20 and he hasn't even really come in and taken over in Binghamton this season. His numbers are strong behind a weaker Binghamton team, but they still aren't jaw dropping.

Let the kid develop and get into a groove and then start calling him up on a more regular basis. They signed Anderson to a four year deal for a good reason. I think it would probably be best for Lehner if he starts taking over at 22-23 providing he has developed properly.

A lot of people just seem to want the "shiniest new toy" playing for the team as soon as possible. Personally I don't want a 20 year old Lehner playing until Cowen(20), Karlsson(21), and Lee(24) turn into a solid D corp.

With people claiming Boro could replace Kuba next year do you really want a backend of:

Cowen (21) Karlsson(22)
Borowiecki(22) Lee(25)

Lehner(21) ?? Plan the parade!:sarcasm:

Gil Gunderson 01-08-2012 11:40 PM

I don't think he'll be ready for at least another year or two.

TSA0402 01-08-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DonthaveaCOWEN (Post 42167419)
"Cause starters always just go from AHL starter to NHL starter?" -signed Jonathon Bernier, Cory Schneider, Jimmy Howard, Pekka Rinne, Tim Thomas, Tomas Vokoun

All I'm saying that with EVERY game and point being critical, Auld is not the guy down the stretch. If its another backup around the league that will do too

Our future is critical. Sure its a no brainer that he comes up when Bingo misses but to compare Lehner's situation to those guys, is utter nonsense.

PeterSidorkiewicz 01-08-2012 11:46 PM

Id like to see Lehner go the Enroth route eventually, bring him up when Anderson needs to rest and have him play a few, and Auld stays as backup every game pretty much.

source 01-08-2012 11:51 PM

When he becomes better than our 3rd best option, which in all likelihood would only happen if Auld or Anderson sustain an injury (this season).

We can't afford to not go with our best goalies this season - after all, we're competing for a playoff spot.

Ski 01-08-2012 11:54 PM

Lehner is currently not Ottawa's answer..

FolignoQuantumLeap 01-09-2012 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterSidorkiewicz (Post 42167855)
Id like to see Lehner go the Enroth route eventually, bring him up when Anderson needs to rest and have him play a few, and Auld stays as backup every game pretty much.

This is what I'm hoping for as well. Andy needs a damn break.

ErikKarlsson 01-09-2012 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ski (Post 42168069)
Lehner is currently not Ottawa's answer..

He has the best NHL stats out of the 3 this season. :sarcasm:

FolignoQuantumLeap 01-09-2012 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ski (Post 42168069)
Lehner is currently not Ottawa's answer..

Anderson is the answer in Ottawa but he can't play every single game. Auld just can't give his team a chance to win so they should look into bringing Lehner up to play against teams like Carolina and the Isles so Anderson can rest up for the big games.

Gil Gunderson 01-09-2012 12:33 AM

Hopefully we sign an NHL caliber back-up this offseason.

Someone like Biron, Conklin, or Harding.

RappinHobo 01-09-2012 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodwan553 (Post 42169059)
Hopefully we sign an NHL caliber back-up this offseason.

Someone like Biron, Conklin, or Harding.


.......not sure if serious

Sens Rule 01-09-2012 03:21 AM

They call up Lehner 2 or 3 weeks before trade deadline and see how he plays in a couple of games,

Playing him in the NHL, behind a team the wins more than it loses will help his development not hurt it. If he plays well maybe he syeals Auld's spot and Auld is in press box. If he struggles he goes back to Bingo.

I doubt they trade for a backup goalie at all.

ThatWasNoAccident 01-09-2012 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rodwan553 (Post 42167655)
I don't think he'll be ready for at least another year or two.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ski (Post 42168069)
Lehner is currently not Ottawa's answer..

This

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErikKarlsson (Post 42168729)
He has the best NHL stats out of the 3 this season. :sarcasm:

Lehner has not really been playing well in Bingo. Granted the team was not playing well altogether at the time because Locke was not in the lineup, but as of this point in the season he has been terrible. McKenna is on a two-way deal and he would likely earn a backup before Lehner even though Lehner has been gifted the title of future starting goalie.

As previously stated, when Lehner plays better and makes himself the better of three options then he'll see some time, but he's clearly not earned any call-up time as it stands.

rbkhockey29 01-09-2012 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterSidorkiewicz (Post 42167855)
Id like to see Lehner go the Enroth route eventually, bring him up when Anderson needs to rest and have him play a few, and Auld stays as backup every game pretty much.

This^ :nod:

Sens Rule 01-09-2012 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MaindotC (Post 42172523)
This



Lehner has not really been playing well in Bingo. Granted the team was not playing well altogether at the time because Locke was not in the lineup, but as of this point in the season he has been terrible. McKenna is on a two-way deal and he would likely earn a backup before Lehner even though Lehner has been gifted the title of future starting goalie.

As previously stated, when Lehner plays better and makes himself the better of three options then he'll see some time, but he's clearly not earned any call-up time as it stands.

Terrible? really? I don't think that is the word for Lehner in the AHL. The AHL means crap. Lehner is a great goalie and has shown that in the NHL. He is going to be called up to back-up before we would even consider a trade.

He was the best playoff performer in the entire AHL last season... he doesn't have a ton more to prove... he just needs to play whereever.


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