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IFK 01-10-2012 07:38 PM

F Teuvo Teräväinen - Jokerit, SM-Liiga (2012, 18th overall, Chicago)
 
I am not Jokerit fan, actually i hate them, but i like this player and he has been better and better every game. He have lot of skills and he is one of those rare young Finnish player who has get played in FEL top 2 lines in past years at this age. He have now 18 games in FEL and points 4+2=6, last 2 games he has 1+2=3. Now when i have saw more his playing, i am almost sure that he will go first round in next summer and he could be surprise everyone and go very high in first if he goes playing like last games. In 2000 and after there are only few Finnish forwards with Teuvo who has played this age high lines in FEL and could produce good points. Those others are Mikael Granlund, Joel Armia, Tuomo Ruutu and Alexander Barkov.

So here is info to Teuvo Teräväinen

DuckJet 01-10-2012 09:23 PM

I guess I'll be the first poster in an OFFICIAL thread. He should be a high second round pick. I don't see him being a first rounder. Seems to have top 9 potential but I think he could easily bust as well. Medium reward, high risk pick IMO.

nik jr 01-10-2012 09:53 PM


thomast 01-10-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DuckJet (Post 42274951)
I guess I'll be the first poster in an OFFICIAL thread. He should be a high second round pick. I don't see him being a first rounder. Seems to have top 9 potential but I think he could easily bust as well. Medium reward, high risk pick IMO.

Medium reward? Are you kidding? This kid looks like Detroit pick and he's huge sleeper. Very good skater with great vision and hard work. His best asset is definetly his offensive imagination, he can make unexpected passes. IMO he gonna be better than Armia in the future. But still agree Late first to early 2nd.

Granlund2Pulkkinen* 01-10-2012 11:25 PM

We don't need to make official threads for every Finnish prospect in the Prospect forum... We have the Finland forum for that.

But in all honesty I don't think he's deserving of the hype...

Tuomaz 01-11-2012 07:14 AM

Will be a sleeper.

FinProspects 01-11-2012 07:24 AM

Sleeper pick. Very, very similar player to Valtteri Filppula IMO. Great offensive instincts+hockey sense, pass-first player, good skating, not very physical. Mid 2nd rounder IMO. Has NHL potential for sure, especially if he becomes as good 2-way player as Filppula is nowadays.

Detroit sounds like a great fit for Teuvo.

thomast 01-11-2012 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by FinProspects (Post 42291091)
Sleeper pick. Very, very similar player to Valtteri Filppula IMO. Great offensive instincts+hockey sense, pass-first player, good skating, not very physical. Mid 2nd rounder IMO. Has NHL potential for sure, especially if he becomes as good 2-way player as Filppula is nowadays.

Detroit sounds like a great fit for Teuvo.

Teuvo is ahead Filppula as 17 year old offensively but i would be very happy if he ends up as good as Filppula but has potential to be better. Teuvo plays physical and gritty game but his body isn't fully developed yet, hard worker aswell. I think that Detroit would be perfect for Teräväinen to develope and would pan out in that system.

Czechexpert 01-11-2012 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by thomast (Post 42282295)
Medium reward? Are you kidding? This kid looks like Detroit pick and he's huge sleeper. Very good skater with great vision and hard work. His best asset is definetly his offensive imagination, he can make unexpected passes. IMO he gonna be better than Armia in the future. But still agree Late first to early 2nd.

One of the best hockey sense, vision, creativity among 2012 eligible.

ElHefe 01-11-2012 09:55 AM

If we compare The Stamp and Teräväinen what are the biggest differences? Is Teräväinen like Granlund with Usain Bolt's legs?

IFK 01-11-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ElHefe (Post 42294967)
If we compare The Stamp and Teräväinen what are the biggest differences? Is Teräväinen like Granlund with Usain Bolt's legs?

Yes i think that's close opinion. Still Teräväinen hasn't that good playmaking skills and IQ, don't see the ice like Mikke, but i think closer compare is Markus Granlund whit bigger upside and he is better now what Markus was a year ago. In my opinion, Teräväinen will go first round or early second.

thomast 01-11-2012 10:38 AM



Pretty nice play him at 1.10 . Knocks down opposite player in the own zone and couple seconds after that he's making very nice setup for an goal. He is different calibre than Markus Granlund was at his draft year but Markus have developed alot during this season. Ma. Granlund had 52pts in 40 games at A-SM at his draft year. Teräväinen has 20pts 12 goals in 11 games at A-SM this year. Now hes regular in most stacked roster of FEL. In the right system this kid is an gem, in the wrong system i don't even know if he ever gonna end up as an NHL-player.

FinProspects 01-12-2012 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by thomast (Post 42292427)
Teuvo is ahead Filppula as 17 year old offensively but i would be very happy if he ends up as good as Filppula but has potential to be better. Teuvo plays physical and gritty game but his body isn't fully developed yet, hard worker aswell. I think that Detroit would be perfect for Teräväinen to develope and would pan out in that system.

Yeah, Filppula didnt score nearly as much as Teräväinen has scored this year in A-juniors. But when Filppula played in juniors he was touted as an almost sure future NHL-player in years to come. At least in Finland I mean. His talent/potential was just plain obvious, altough he struggled in 3rd line role with limited ice-time in his first A-junior season. Filppula´s point totals in juniors are generally really underwhelming considering how good he really was back then. He should have played in Sm-liiga already in 02-03 season, but Jokerit was stacked at the time (Peltonen,Pakaslahti,Pesonen,Hentunen,Voutilainen, Valtonen,Nemirovsky,Aalto). Thats why I wouldnt place Teuvo ahead of Filppula just yet.

Jussi 01-12-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thomast (Post 42296479)


Pretty nice play him at 1.10 . Knocks down opposite player in the own zone and couple seconds after that he's making very nice setup for an goal. He is different calibre than Markus Granlund was at his draft year but Markus have developed alot during this season. Ma. Granlund had 52pts in 40 games at A-SM at his draft year. Teräväinen has 20pts 12 goals in 11 games at A-SM this year. Now hes regular in most stacked roster of FEL. In the right system this kid is an gem, in the wrong system i don't even know if he ever gonna end up as an NHL-player.

:laugh: :laugh: Good one. Not even Jokerit fans believe that.

thomast 01-12-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jussi (Post 42383311)
:laugh: :laugh: Good one. Not even Jokerit fans believe that.

Look at that roster on the paper that offense is most stacked easily.

DuckJet 01-13-2012 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Czechexpert (Post 42294419)
One of the best hockey sense, vision, creativity among 2012 eligible.

Which is why draft experts rank him in the top 15 :shakehead

YARR123 01-13-2012 04:13 AM

It's crazy how good reports a player can recieve and how good a skillset a player can have without being considered a consensus 1st rounder.

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Originally Posted by Jussi
Good one. Not even Jokerit fans believe that.

Which team do you think is more stacked? Jokerit has had some issues with injuries but if they have their full rosterthey are the most stacked team. They have very good players throughout the top 3 lines, and also have a 4th line that are very good grinders (Mäki, Heino, Ben-Amor). Without injuries it's almost impossible for a 17-year-old kid to get any icetime.

thomast 01-13-2012 06:08 AM

There is peoples who thinks that he's top 15 and people who says not a chance in 1st. But i actualy think him going Late first to Detroit, Philly and other teams who have good experience with smaller guys with huge upside, Teuvo could be 6'0 at prime which isn't that small. Size is starting to be most overrated attribute.

Jussi 01-13-2012 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by thomast (Post 42390903)
Look at that roster on the paper that offense is most stacked easily.

:laugh: Not compared to IFK. Niclas Hardt? Tomi Mäki? Tyrväinen? Kerälä?

helicecopter 01-13-2012 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by thomast (Post 42400831)
Size is starting to be most overrated attribute.

starting to? i thought it's been that way like forever by now.. even more so than today.

SoupyFIN 01-13-2012 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Granlund2Pulkkinen (Post 42284405)
But in all honesty I don't think he's deserving of the hype...

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Originally Posted by Tuomaz (Post 42290933)
Will be a sleeper.

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Originally Posted by FinProspects (Post 42291091)
Mid 2nd rounder IMO.

Thank god that there are others around here who see it this way. Though I was the only one since I got over 9000 angry replies from finns in every ****ing thread when I said that he won't be picked in the 1st round.

Emppu 01-13-2012 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SoupyFIN (Post 42402035)
Thank god that there are others around here who see it this way. Though I was the only one since I got over 9000 angry replies from finns in every ****ing thread when I said that he won't be picked in the 1st round.

He won't, it'd be a huge surprise. I think he lost most of his chances when he didn't make the team at WJC. Mid 2nd round sounds good

thomast 01-13-2012 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jussi (Post 42401185)
:laugh: Not compared to IFK. Niclas Hardt? Tomi Mäki? Tyrväinen? Kerälä?

HIFK has better top 6 but can't match in depth. Ifk has most stacked top 6 Jokerit has most stacked offense.

YARR123 01-13-2012 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SoupyFIN (Post 42402035)
Thank god that there are others around here who see it this way. Though I was the only one since I got over 9000 angry replies from finns in every ****ing thread when I said that he won't be picked in the 1st round.

I don't see many people throwing arguments as to why he shouldn't be a 1st rounder, would you like to give some reasons? I don't mind people saying whatever they will as long as they have reason. All the reasons thus far have been something like "He didn't play in the WJC" or "Doesn't have good enough stats in SM-liiga". To me, these are not valid arguments.

Scouts don't look it like that. They don't base their decisions on a newcomer coaches decisions (Helminen didn't pick him on the team, someone else could have) or numbers on a paper. The look at talent, skill, work ethic, and how they expect the skill and talent to translate to the North American game.

I'm not saying that he will go in the first, I just think that he definately has what it takes if things go right.

Jussi 01-13-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thomast (Post 42402973)
HIFK has better top 6 but can't match in depth. Ifk has most stacked top 6 Jokerit has most stacked offense.

High/drunk much? Jokerit 4th line pales in comparison to the HIFK counterpart and when IFK can put Petteri Wirtanen on the 3rd line, it's not very close.


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