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Cat Herder 01-14-2012 10:20 PM

Points for 8th place since lockout
 
Did some calculations


Since the lockout the 8th seed in the east has had an average points of 92 ... the High number was 94 points and the lowest was 88


Ottawa needs the following points in their remaining 36 games to match those numbers


For 94 points 38 points in remaining games 1.06ppg
For 92 points 36 points in remaining games 1.00ppg
For 88 points 32 points in remaining games 0.89ppg


The current 7th place team is on pace for 91.31 points
The current 8th place team is on pace for 93.17 points
The current 9th place team is on pace for 91.53 points


Ottawa is on pace for 99.82 points


It would be nice to keep the pace to get the 99.82 points.. but we have some breathing room :D

Goat Boy 01-14-2012 10:24 PM

So basically, if we go .500 for the rest of the season, we'll probably still make it.

I can live with that. :nod:

Euclid 01-14-2012 10:45 PM

This season has been full of so many pleasant surprises.

I don't think there's a single player aside from Butler who's failed to exceed my expectations, or at very least meet them.

If you would have told me six months ago that we'd be tied for 3rd in pts in the Eastern conference by January, I would have called you insane, and I'm sure many others would have as well.

Bobby Blowhard 01-14-2012 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigSensFan (Post 42503769)
Did some calculations


Since the lockout the 8th seed in the east has had an average points of 92 ... the High number was 94 points and the lowest was 88


Ottawa needs the following points in their remaining 36 games to match those numbers


For 94 points 38 points in remaining games 1.06ppg
For 92 points 36 points in remaining games 1.00ppg
For 88 points 32 points in remaining games 0.89ppg


The current 7th place team is on pace for 91.31 points
The current 8th place team is on pace for 93.17 points
The current 9th place team is on pace for 91.53 points


Ottawa is on pace for 99.82 points


It would be nice to keep the pace to get the 99.82 points.. but we have some breathing room :D

I will assume its me whos missing something here?

Cat Herder 01-14-2012 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Blowhard (Post 42505633)
I will assume its me whos missing something here?


Not all teams have played the same amount of games so it is possible for a team that is currently ranked higher (leafs) to have a worse PPG than others (Wash & Pens)

Bobby Blowhard 01-14-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigSensFan (Post 42505999)
Not all teams have played the same amount of games so it is possible for a team that is currently ranked higher (leafs) to have a worse PPG than others (Wash & Pens)

yes. the operative word is current.

got it.

Cat Herder 01-15-2012 12:23 AM

I did ppg projections of all the Eastern Teams (putting their pace so far towards all games remaining)

Here is what the final standings will look like if they all keep their current paces

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/6750/proj.jpg

Lehner 01-15-2012 01:07 AM

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/E...st/Ottawa.html

Mephias 01-15-2012 01:12 AM

Am I the only one who really doesn't want to play Philly in the 1st round?

saskriders 01-15-2012 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigSensFan (Post 42510569)
I did ppg projections of all the Eastern Teams (putting their pace so far towards all games remaining)

Here is what the final standings will look like if they all keep their current paces

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/6750/proj.jpg

Our PPG has a good chance of going up too, since if you take out those terrible first two weeks, it would be above Philly too

Lehner 01-15-2012 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mephias (Post 42512359)
Am I the only one who really doesn't want to play Philly in the 1st round?

Lots of hockey left, lets worry about matchups when were in the playoffs :)

Alpha190 01-15-2012 01:45 AM

Wings fan coming in peace here.

Have a few questions if you guys don't mind answering them.

- What's the 3 biggest differences from this season to the prior.
- How is McLean doing? I guess you guys are happy with him.
- Can you guys pinpoint any differences during your current hot streak than the rest of this season. Are the players more confident in their own zone? Are the sens playing better defense? Is it Anders(s)on?

CanadianHockey 01-15-2012 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha190 (Post 42513345)
Wings fan coming in peace here.

Have a few questions if you guys don't mind answering them.

- What's the 3 biggest differences from this season to the prior.
- How is McLean doing? I guess you guys are happy with him.
- Can you guys pinpoint any differences during your current hot streak than the rest of this season. Are the players more confident in their own zone? Are the sens playing better defense? Is it Anders(s)on?

1. Dependable goaltending. Elliott was too inexperienced, Leclaire too injured. Andy has been solid, especially of late.
2. Competitiveness. Everyone wants to win game in game out. We can be down by 5 goals and come back to win; the energy and the drive are both there.
3. Our offense is amazing. Last year our blueline was a wreck and our breakout sucked. This year, Kuba, Karlsson, and Gonchar have all found their form and the breakout is amazing because of it. Our PP - when it clicks - is amazing. Our young guys are chipping in on each of our top three lines. Even if our defensive coverage has been terrible, the offence is still there to come up with timely goals.

McStache is awesome. He's motivating the players and keeping everyone on the same page. His system maximizes our breakout ability to generate offence. He's found good complementary matches in our lineup and stuck with them. He's rewarding guys who are playing well - one game he used Daugavins, Z.Smith, and Condra on the PP because they were our best line that night... they rewarded him with a goal. On top of motivating and utilizing our players effectively, MacLean's also keeping the team level-headed; we have confidence, we're cocky, but we don't overestimate ourselves and he really helps the team focus on the task at hand.

Current hotstreak is because our best players are playing their best hockey (Spezz, Karlsson, Alfie) and our goaltending is bailing us out when we do make mistakes. The confidence is at an all-time high and everyone is doing their jobs perfectly right now.

Karlstrobe 01-15-2012 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianHockey (Post 42513671)
1. Dependable goaltending. Elliott was too inexperienced, Leclaire too injured. Andy has been solid, especially of late.
2. Competitiveness. Everyone wants to win game in game out. We can be down by 5 goals and come back to win; the energy and the drive are both there.
3. Our offense is amazing. Last year our blueline was a wreck and our breakout sucked. This year, Kuba, Karlsson, and Gonchar have all found their form and the breakout is amazing because of it. Our PP - when it clicks - is amazing. Our young guys are chipping in on each of our top three lines. Even if our defensive coverage has been terrible, the offence is still there to come up with timely goals.

McStache is awesome. He's motivating the players and keeping everyone on the same page. His system maximizes our breakout ability to generate offence. He's found good complementary matches in our lineup and stuck with them. He's rewarding guys who are playing well - one game he used Daugavins, Z.Smith, and Condra on the PP because they were our best line that night... they rewarded him with a goal. On top of motivating and utilizing our players effectively, MacLean's also keeping the team level-headed; we have confidence, we're cocky, but we don't overestimate ourselves and he really helps the team focus on the task at hand.

Current hotstreak is because our best players are playing their best hockey (Spezz, Karlsson, Alfie) and our goaltending is bailing us out when we do make mistakes. The confidence is at an all-time high and everyone is doing their jobs perfectly right now.

Sounds about right :handclap:

JD1 01-15-2012 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianHockey (Post 42513671)
1. Dependable goaltending. Elliott was too inexperienced, Leclaire too injured. Andy has been solid, especially of late.
2. Competitiveness. Everyone wants to win game in game out. We can be down by 5 goals and come back to win; the energy and the drive are both there.
3. Our offense is amazing. Last year our blueline was a wreck and our breakout sucked. This year, Kuba, Karlsson, and Gonchar have all found their form and the breakout is amazing because of it. Our PP - when it clicks - is amazing. Our young guys are chipping in on each of our top three lines. Even if our defensive coverage has been terrible, the offence is still there to come up with timely goals.

McStache is awesome. He's motivating the players and keeping everyone on the same page. His system maximizes our breakout ability to generate offence. He's found good complementary matches in our lineup and stuck with them. He's rewarding guys who are playing well - one game he used Daugavins, Z.Smith, and Condra on the PP because they were our best line that night... they rewarded him with a goal. On top of motivating and utilizing our players effectively, MacLean's also keeping the team level-headed; we have confidence, we're cocky, but we don't overestimate ourselves and he really helps the team focus on the task at hand.

Current hotstreak is because our best players are playing their best hockey (Spezz, Karlsson, Alfie) and our goaltending is bailing us out when we do make mistakes. The confidence is at an all-time high and everyone is doing their jobs perfectly right now.

i think one of the big differences is perception. we were never as bad as outr record last year, Elliot's goaltending was so horrific that on many many nights we were out of it at the drop of the first puck. the toronto based media had us picked last because it plays in their biggest market. the sens had enough talent heading in to the year to make the playoffs although i'm very surprised how well they are doing.

Healfezza 01-15-2012 10:45 AM

Im really hoping for another year of the Sens making the playoffs and Toronto doing a near miss. It would really piss off all the Toronto fans.

Fitch89 01-15-2012 10:48 AM

I seem to remember us having horrible luck last year as well. For example we'd hit like three posts in a game and the other team would get a lucky bounce to win the game by one. Pair that with injuries and guys that weren't on their top game and it quickly snowballed out of control. The team on paper at the beginning of the year looked a lot better than it did on the ice.

Iamok 01-15-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saskriders (Post 42512515)
Our PPG has a good chance of going up too, since if you take out those terrible first two weeks, it would be above Philly too

Young teams are subject to peaks and valleys, this just happens to be a hell of a peak. So if you take away that losing streak, you may as well take away this winning streak. Generally speaking, I'd say the team is somewhere in the middle of both (duh).

Qward 01-15-2012 10:54 AM

if Pittsburg and Washington win today, Leafs are bumped back out :)

guyzeur 01-15-2012 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iamok (Post 42519485)
Young teams are subject to peaks and valleys, this just happens to be a hell of a peak. So if you take away that losing streak, you may as well take away this winning streak. Generally speaking, I'd say the team is somewhere in the middle of both (duh).

The first 2 weeks was not because we were young, it was because a brand new coach and his system

Cat Herder 01-15-2012 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qward (Post 42519521)
if Pittsburg and Washington win today, Leafs are bumped back out :)

actually Washington only needs to get 1 point to put the leafs in 9th (same points but Washington has less GP and more wins)

DrEasy 01-15-2012 04:46 PM

Last year Alfie was playing hurt, Fisher was playing hurt, Kovalev probably was playing hurt, Kuba was playing hurt or recovering, Spezza got hurt, Michalek was recovering, Leclaire was hurt, and I probably forget many others. Injuries, IMO, were the main reason for our bad season last year. Clouston, with pretty much the same team, managed to get us into the playoffs the year before.

jbeck5 01-15-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrEasy (Post 42535503)
Last year Alfie was playing hurt, Fisher was playing hurt, Kovalev definitely was playing lazy, Kuba was playing hurt or recovering, Spezza got hurt, Michalek was recovering, Leclaire was hurt, and I probably forget many others. Injuries, IMO, were the main reason for our bad season last year. Clouston, with pretty much the same team, managed to get us into the playoffs the year before.

fixed. :laugh:

Tundraman 01-15-2012 07:45 PM

Even though Washington is projected to have a lower points total than Florida I think they will easily overtake them for 1st in the Southeast Division. This will force Fla into a fight for a playoff spot with the current 4-8 group led by Philadelphia, Ottawa, NJ, Pitt and Toronto. Based on the recent play of all these teams it may come down to Florida vs Toronto for the 8th and final playoff spot.

guyzeur 01-15-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tundraman (Post 42545831)
Even though Washington is projected to have a lower points total than Florida I think they will easily overtake them for 1st in the Southeast Division. This will force Fla into a fight for a playoff spot with the current 4-8 group led by Philadelphia, Ottawa, NJ, Pitt and Toronto. Based on the recent play of all these teams it may come down to Florida vs Toronto for the 8th and final playoff spot.

I agree


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