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Schwang 01-17-2012 08:01 PM

Habs may want to give Engqvist another look
 
This guys been on tear since being sent down! He's on a point a game pace and is plus 11. He's only 3 points shy of last year's totals, but has done it in 24 games instead of 75 games last year!

I definately think he should get another long look (maybe next year) and certainly in an offensive role instead of 4th line checker. Maybe this big centre has an upside we didn't know about!

Andrighetto Fabolous 01-17-2012 08:10 PM

We should give Palushaj a chance with Bourque and Plekanec first IMO, he's been tearing it up with Engqvist and hasn't had a real chance to play on an offensive line with the Habs.

The Kremelin Wall* 01-17-2012 08:11 PM

I thought it was silly Palushaj wasn't given any shifts off the fourth line in 15 games up. He's not a grinder.

The Gal Pals 01-17-2012 08:21 PM

Palushaj is a bust. Leblanc isn't a grinder either but he scored his first goal on the 4th line. Palushaj just isn't that good.

Emanresu Wen 01-17-2012 08:21 PM

In two years

Padrino86 01-17-2012 08:23 PM

No let him play in the minor for the rest of the year, he absolutely sucked here.

First call up should be Leblanc, and maybe Palushaj if it's for 3-4 games on an offensive line.

FlyingKostitsyn 01-17-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Padrino86 (Post 42651635)
No let him play in the minor for the rest of the year, he absolutely sucked here.

First call up should be Leblanc, and maybe Palushaj if it's for 3-4 games on an offensive line.

I disagree. He was a non-factor, true, but he didn't suck. His real problem is that NHLers, even borderline ones, have something going for them that keeps them in the NHL. Something that makes them useful.

Tom Pyatt was fast and thus was a good PKer. Bergeron has a terrific slapshot. Blunden is big and looks mean. Moen works hard, goes to dirty places and scores garbage goals. Darche has intangibles :sarcasm:

Sadly for him Engqvist is extremely average. Give him just one quality (speed, good shot, better on ice vision, hitting ability, mean SOB face, anything) and he'd be a decent NHLer.

hototogisu 01-17-2012 08:36 PM

Yeah I noticed he's been doing really well with the Bulldogs. Good for him.

Ridiculous how people on this board have already made up their minds about Engqvist and Palushaj's NHL potential after 15 games of experience.

kassian 01-17-2012 08:36 PM

I'd put Leblanc ahead of this guy. At least he's a spark of energy. Engqvist, though, has been pretty average and passive in general at the beginning of the season. Shoor shoor, the guy's tall, but why the size when you can't use it properly? He played poorly defensively too, a skill for which he was called up for (besides his face-off skills - which were average too). Average, average, average, srsly.

Andrighetto Fabolous 01-17-2012 08:39 PM

I'd rather Leblanc put up a bunch of points in the AHL this year, gain some weight in the off-season and challenge for a spot next year. He could play in the NHL now but I think in the long-run it'd be better to see him work on his offensive game more in the AHL for a year.

CrazyShea 01-17-2012 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by airic000 (Post 42651363)
Palushaj is a bust. Leblanc isn't a grinder either but he scored his first goal on the 4th line. Palushaj just isn't that good.

4th line my ass he was playing with our top line rw Mr. Blunden:sarcasm:

zzoo 01-17-2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Schwang (Post 42648731)
This guys been on tear since being sent down! He's on a point a game pace and is plus 11. He's only 3 points shy of last year's totals, but has done it in 24 games instead of 75 games last year!

I definately think he should get another long look (maybe next year) and certainly in an offensive role instead of 4th line checker. Maybe this big centre has an upside we didn't know about!

I hope not.
Even though Leblanc and Palushaj are presently quite bad in NHL, they are still much better than the "invisible man" Engqvist.

pine* 01-17-2012 09:04 PM

Engqvist

Bullsmith 01-17-2012 09:04 PM

The question for me with Engqvist is his skating. Everyone like him needs to get stronger, and it's nice to see him putting up some points, but when he was up earlier this year he simply couldn't compete at an NHL level. He was a pylon. But players can really make huge strides (bah-dah-bing) in that area. Latendresse and Ryan White, to name a couple. Course we haven't seen White skate in a while.

lamp9post 01-17-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingKostitsyn (Post 42652793)
I disagree. He was a non-factor, true, but he didn't suck. His real problem is that NHLers, even borderline ones, have something going for them that keeps them in the NHL. Something that makes them useful.

Tom Pyatt was fast and thus was a good PKer. Bergeron has a terrific slapshot. Blunden is big and looks mean. Moen works hard, goes to dirty places and scores garbage goals. Darche has intangibles :sarcasm:

Sadly for him Engqvist is extremely average. Give him just one quality (speed, good shot, better on ice vision, hitting ability, mean SOB face, anything) and he'd be a decent NHLer.

That's true, but maybe in a year or two he'll improve in all areas and be slightly above average in most respects. That would actually make him a pretty decent 4th liner, but who knows. I really have no problem hanging onto Engqvist and Palushaj until they are waiver eligible. Having viable callup options on the farm is never a bad thing.

FlyingKostitsyn 01-17-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lamp9post (Post 42658669)
That's true, but maybe in a year or two he'll improve in all areas and be slightly above average in most respects. That would actually make him a pretty decent 4th liner, but who knows. I really have no problem hanging onto Engqvist and Palushaj until they are waiver eligible. Having viable callup options on the farm is never a bad thing.

Maybe. I don't believe he has incredible potential but he might end up being a serviceable 4th liner and ok 3rd liner. He could be a cheap and reliable defensive specialist.

patsbury 01-17-2012 09:36 PM

I would give Palushaj another shot before Engqvist. I still have hope Palu' will develop into a top 9 forward; we need some young talent to be able to make the big club (cap wise).

Habitants 01-17-2012 09:49 PM

imo keep these 2 in the AHL this season. let them continue to rip it up as they are. they need to develop more and build their confidence, so let them do it in hamilton. they will get another chance in next camp.

Leblanc remains top choice for first call up due to his great versatility. and he has more overall skill.

Habbadasher 01-17-2012 09:56 PM

If we have a fire sale, I am sure there will be a spot for him.

Monctonscout 01-17-2012 09:59 PM

I think trading a couple UFA's and giving Palushaj and Engqvist a few games with regular(15+ min) ice time would be good.

habitue* 01-17-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Carey Price (Post 42664573)
I think trading a couple UFA's and giving Palushaj and Engqvist a few games with regular(15+ min) ice time would be good.

That might happen if Gauthier unload A.K. and Moen for some picks at the deadline.

Hackett 01-17-2012 11:02 PM

I dont think engqvist's talents translate well into offense at this level. At best, I see him maybe being our next radek bonk.... and that's not necessarily a swipe at him.

Westcoasthabsfan 01-17-2012 11:12 PM

He's brutal

Phozzwald 01-18-2012 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Schwang (Post 42648731)
This guys been on tear since being sent down! He's on a point a game pace and is plus 11. He's only 3 points shy of last year's totals, but has done it in 24 games instead of 75 games last year!

I definately think he should get another long look (maybe next year) and certainly in an offensive role instead of 4th line checker. Maybe this big centre has an upside we didn't know about!

In a offensive role lol? Which centre do you plan on replacing with him, Plekanec or Desharnais? Not a chance would that ever happen, nor should it. IMO he shouldn't be brought back up and neither should Palushaj. Both were horrible with the big club. AHL hockey is a lot different then NHL hockey.

Monctonscout 01-18-2012 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Phozzwald (Post 42682195)
In a offensive role lol? Which centre do you plan on replacing with him, Plekanec or Desharnais? Not a chance would that ever happen, nor should it. IMO he shouldn't be brought back up and neither should Palushaj. Both were horrible with the big club. AHL hockey is a lot different then NHL hockey.

Try DD on the wing and Engqvist as #3.


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