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Sensfanman 01-20-2012 09:17 PM

Good value skates
 
Hey all,

I'm looking to upgrade my skates as the blades need replacing anyway and they are old skates anyway. Which do you all think are good value skates. Nearby stores are Pro Hockey Life, National Sports, Sports Check, Corbett's Sports. I play rec hockey once or twice a week, nothing heavy. My price point is sub 120 but I'd go as high as 150 for a super good deal.

Thanks in advance!

Aftcomet* 01-20-2012 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sensfanman (Post 42818803)
Hey all,

I'm looking to upgrade my skates as the blades need replacing anyway and they are old skates anyway. Which do you all think are good value skates. Nearby stores are Pro Hockey Life, National Sports, Sports Check, Corbett's Sports. I play rec hockey once or twice a week, nothing heavy. My price point is sub 120 but I'd go as high as 150 for a super good deal.

Thanks in advance!

What size do you wear? If you wear 9's you're in luck. If you're willing to spend $250 you could get top of the line EQ5's. These skates were nearly $700 at one point but are on clearance for $250 at Sport Chek. They might have different sizes in store. If you're willing to spend that much that is. But remember, you're getting some of the best skates that some NHLers use and they'll last you many, many years. (I know Asham uses them).

If you're looking for something cheaper, Sport Chek is having a clearance on hockey skates at 40%-60%.

Easton EQ4 - $170
CCM U+ 07 - $120
Bauer Vapor X2.0 - $120

Apart from that, also consider looking at Vapor X:30's

In the end it's what you like best. But if you find you like the Bauer Vapor line, it's a good safe choice because they're great skates no matter what. Then it's a matter of finding one for your price range, whether it's the X20's, 30's, 40's, or even the treasured 60's.

But I still recommend taking a look at the EQ5's. I mean for that price they're an absolute steal and they'll last you virtually forever. Hopefully you can find a pair. I just started skating for the first time and I used those. People told me your feet are supposed to hurt but I only felt a slight discomfort, they're so comfortable, light, and durable. I know I'll be able to do a lot of stuff in them I just have to get good first.

PS. I know you think you shouldn't be taking equipment advice from someone who's a beginner, but I've done my due diligence. For the past two months I've done nothing but read and watch reviews and research products to understand as much as possible. So while I'm no expert, I'm not a total ignoramus either.

Good luck! (You filthy Sens fan :D Leafs Rule!)

AIREAYE 01-20-2012 10:54 PM

Your feet are NOT supposed to hurt, they're supposed to fit the boot. Spot pain on occasion does happen but shouldn't be expected or be a constant. Skates (and helmets, but that's another issue) are the most important piece of gear you'll have to own. You NEED NEED NEED (get the point) to find the best fitting skate for you. Forget everything you think you know about different brands and get the skate in your budget range that fits the best.

To answer your question, the best 'value' will be whichever skate fits your foot bests and lasts the longest. Generally the pricier you go the more durable it should be (like Aftcomet said) but fit is the most important. There is no value in buying an $850 skate or $60 skate if they don't fit and you're in pain when playing.

Go try on a few different pairs, let your fitter recommend some based on your foot shape and go from there.

Aftcomet* 01-20-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AIREAYE (Post 42823069)
Your feet are NOT supposed to hurt, they're supposed to fit the boot. Spot pain on occasion does happen but shouldn't be expected or be a constant. Skates (and helmets, but that's another issue) are the most important piece of gear you'll have to own. You NEED NEED NEED (get the point) to find the best fitting skate for you. Forget everything you think you know about different brands and get the skate in your budget range that fits the best.

To answer your question, the best 'value' will be whichever skate fits your foot bests and lasts the longest. Generally the pricier you go the more durable it should be (like Aftcomet said) but fit is the most important. There is no value in buying an $850 skate or $60 skate if they don't fit and you're in pain when playing.

Go try on a few different pairs, let your fitter recommend some based on your foot shape and go from there.

Really? I was told your feet will hurt until you break in your skates a little.

greyraven8 01-20-2012 11:59 PM

If looking to pay $120 or less you, unless you can find a good deal online or otherwise on a pair that is the same size and brand you currently use (or ones you can try on to make sure they fit) you are probably better off getting a mid-level used pair.

Not sure what you have there, but my Play-it-Again and even Source for Sports have a good selection of used skates. Local arena ads and kijiji are other options. Ebay is a crap shoot - would only gamble with them if you know that brand in your size will fit your foot and if getting from the skates make sure they will ship USPS to Canada.

kr580 01-21-2012 12:28 AM

I agree, go with fit first. Throw brands and models out the window. Find out which skates fit your feet the best. Go with what fits best and is the higher end of your budget. Although I'm not sure any skates in the $120 range will last you very long. You might try to bump it up a bit to get more value out of the skates.

AIREAYE 01-21-2012 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Aftcomet (Post 42823605)
Really? I was told your feet will hurt until you break in your skates a little.

Yes, really

Sensfanman 01-21-2012 03:00 AM

Thanks everyone. I think I might hit up Sport Chek for those Bauer Vapor's. The sizing is important as I have small, but wide feet (usually a 7.5 wide or sometimes 8) and they have the variance to fit and looks like a good price. Obviously I'll still look around but that seems like a good place to start.

theotis77 01-21-2012 06:25 AM

I got a pair of Easton EQ30s for $150(US) and I love them. One of the cheaper skate models which is still heat-moldable, and IMO, better construction than the Vapor X3s or X4s.

sanityplease 01-21-2012 10:40 AM

The vapors are great value.

Badger36 01-21-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sensfanman (Post 42827497)
Thanks everyone. I think I might hit up Sport Chek for those Bauer Vapor's. The sizing is important as I have small, but wide feet (usually a 7.5 wide or sometimes 8) and they have the variance to fit and looks like a good price. Obviously I'll still look around but that seems like a good place to start.

If you have wide feet you will probably find that Reeboks and CCMs fit you the best.

backhander 01-22-2012 08:52 AM

it's probably not the best advice, but try to save another 100 or so. getting good skates is the best thing you can do for your game. i'm sure it's easier said than done.....better skates will really help your skating if you're in lesser skates now!

Badger36 01-22-2012 11:17 AM

All you really need is a $200 pair of skates. Ive used $200 skates and $500 skates and really other than the fact that the $500 skates are lighter, there really isnt a whole lot of difference.

hyster110 01-22-2012 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkey36 (Post 42902555)
All you really need is a $200 pair of skates. Ive used $200 skates and $500 skates and really other than the fact that the $500 skates are lighter, there really isnt a whole lot of difference.

the 500 dollar skates are also built with better materials, stronger and will last much longer than a 200 dollar pair

Stickmata 01-22-2012 12:37 PM

The best value skates are the ones that fit you best.

AIREAYE 01-22-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Stickmata (Post 42906229)
The best value skates are the ones that fit you best.

This. End thread

Gino 14 01-22-2012 05:32 PM

First, I would consider getting new steel for your existing skates and save yourself a ton of money. If it ain't totally broke, why change it? The next thing to consider is staying with the same brand because the basic geometry will be the same and it won't feel like you have to learn to skate all over again. After that, go for fit and then price otherwise you'll be buying another pair shortly because the cheaped out pair you just bought cause you too much pain.

AIREAYE 01-22-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gino 14 (Post 42928759)
First, I would consider getting new steel for your existing skates and save yourself a ton of money. If it ain't totally broke, why change it? The next thing to consider is staying with the same brand because the basic geometry will be the same and it won't feel like you have to learn to skate all over again. After that, go for fit and then price otherwise you'll be buying another pair shortly because the cheaped out pair you just bought cause you too much pain.

You got the order wrong here, can't tell you how many players had improperly fitted skates beforehand and simply 'got by'. Fit should be paramount.

MouF 01-22-2012 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AIREAYE (Post 42929549)
You got the order wrong here, can't tell you how many players had improperly fitted skates beforehand and simply 'got by'. Fit should be paramount.

word :yo:

if you go vapor i wouldnt go lower than x4..if you do you'll be buying a new pair in no time...

Sensfanman 01-22-2012 10:41 PM

My current skates are like 7 years old I think. I don't remember buying them they are so old and the blades are at the point where the skate shop guy says he can't sharpen them many more times haha.

I understand the fit part and I'd never compromise that part but in terms of quality, online reviews are inconsistent so I figured I'd ask around here mostly for skates or brands to avoid incase I do find a good fit and stop looking only to have them fall apart in a year.

cptjeff 01-22-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkey36 (Post 42902555)
All you really need is a $200 pair of skates. Ive used $200 skates and $500 skates and really other than the fact that the $500 skates are lighter, there really isnt a whole lot of difference.

For you. I noticed the difference between $300 skates and $600 ones the first time I stepped on the ice with the new ones. Lighter, more responsive, and I felt like more energy was going through to the ice. And I got a bit faster too.

For a beginner, it won't matter. But for some of us, it makes a rather noticeable difference.

cptjeff 01-22-2012 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sensfanman (Post 42948197)
My current skates are like 7 years old I think. I don't remember buying them they are so old and the blades are at the point where the skate shop guy says he can't sharpen them many more times haha.

I understand the fit part and I'd never compromise that part but in terms of quality, online reviews are inconsistent so I figured I'd ask around here mostly for skates or brands to avoid incase I do find a good fit and stop looking only to have them fall apart in a year.

Any of the major brands should be fine. Bauer, Easton, CCM, Reebok.

Jarick 01-23-2012 11:03 AM

20 years ago your feet would hurt when you got new skates, because they were made of leather and took a while to break in.

Today, they are made of composite materials which don't break in, they break down. If your feet hurt, they don't fit right. Baking will help soften the composite materials somewhat that will cool and harden to a new shape. If your feet stop hurting after a few skates, it's you adjusting to the skates, not the other way around.

You want a super snug skate, no pain at all, and skate as long as you can on them before they start to go soft.

$300 is the sweet spot in my opinion. Those are the skates that tend to be very light weight yet stiff and contain most of the technology from the high end models. For your average skater they should last several years. If you're very heavy, skate very frequently, or are a high level skater, you might want to cough up more money for stiffer skates which will last longer.

Gino 14 01-23-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AIREAYE (Post 42929549)
You got the order wrong here, can't tell you how many players had improperly fitted skates beforehand and simply 'got by'. Fit should be paramount.

If fit is the first step, how is it the wrong order? A lot of folks on here that buy skates have no idea that the geometry of the skates changes by manufacturer. It was only something to consider. Even getting a pair of skates that fit well but don't allow you to skate the way you did are no more a good skate than ones that don't fit.

AIREAYE 01-23-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gino 14 (Post 42986933)
If fit is the first step, how is it the wrong order? A lot of folks on here that buy skates have no idea that the geometry of the skates changes by manufacturer. It was only something to consider. Even getting a pair of skates that fit well but don't allow you to skate the way you did are no more a good skate than ones that don't fit.

You mentioned that skaters should stick with the same brand/geometry and THEN look for fit. That is also incorrect and I only noticed this now. The fit of different brands WITHIN BRANDS have changed over time. The CCM Tacks of 10 years ago aren't the same 'geometry' as the CCM Vector series, U+ Pro series or even U+CL series. They've all changed. Same with Bauer Supreme of yesteryear and now and Reebok as well.

If you have a pair of new correctly fitted skates, there inevitably will have to be an adjustment period. You cannot expect a decade-old pair of leather constructed Tacks to feel the same as a new pair of correctly fitted skates with stiffer and lighter materials. Skating is skating and if you cannot skate with an old pair, you can't skate with a new one.

I can't tell you how many adult players who've been in the game longer than most of us have appreciated a pair of fitted skates over what they used to have. Skates nowadays are so much more able to be fitted to ones foot presuming that the have the right boot to start. Things like baking, stretching, punching and especially the inner materials have drastically cut down on the amount of break-in time required; it's non-comparable.

I stress the fact that fit is absolutely the most critical aspect, you might as well forget what you know about skates and rely on what fits your foot the best. The skating follows naturally


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