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Finnpin 01-21-2012 05:12 AM

F1 Thread 2012
 
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Red Bull Racing Renault
1 Sebastian Vettel (DEU)
2 Mark Webber (AUS)

McLaren Mercedes
3 Jenson Button (GBR)
4 Lewis Hamilton (GBR)

Ferrari
5 Fernando Alonso (ESP)
6 Felipe Massa (BRA)

Mercedes
7 Michael Schumacher (DEU)
8 Nico Rosberg (DEU)

Lotus Renault GP
9 Kimi Raikkonen (FIN)
10 Romain Grosjean (FRA)

Force India Mercedes
11 Paul di Resta
12 Nick Hulkenberg

Sauber Ferrari
14 Kamui Kobayashi (JPN)
15 Sergio Perez Mendoza (MEX)

STR Ferrari (Toro Rosso)
16 Daniel Ricciardo
17 Jean-Eric Vergne

Williams Renault
18 Pastor Maldonado (VEN)
19 Bruno Senna (BRA)

Caterham Renault
20 Heikki Kovalainen (FIN)
21 Jarno Trulli (ITA)

HRT/TBA
22 Pedro de la Rosa (ESP)
23 TBA

Marussia Cosworth
24 Timo Glock (DEU)
25 Charles Pic (FRA)

Finnpin 01-21-2012 05:15 AM

FIA is a joke!

First gives Lotus Renault GP green light with their new braking system and now bans it (big teams complain) when it's about 1,5 months till first race.

FIA is Ferrari's biyatch...always have been always will.

Räikkönen is basically the only reason that I might watch few races this season.

Brock Anton 01-21-2012 08:45 PM

Another year of Red Bull domination ahead..

Apaharn 01-21-2012 10:48 PM

Hey Finn,

Bruno Senna will be driving for Williams for the upcoming season.

Sanderson 01-22-2012 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnpin (Post 42828227)
FIA is a joke!

First gives Lotus Renault GP green light with their new braking system and now bans it (big teams complain) when it's about 1,5 months till first race.

FIA is Ferrari's biyatch...always have been always will.

That's what I though as well, though the way I have heard it now that's not entirely how it happened.

The reason why Charlie Whiting first considered it to be fine is not the same that has led to the ban. Whiting came to the conclusion that this system is not an active suspension, which made it okay. The complaint which led to the ban is about something entirely different, the use of the suspension as an aerodynamic device, which is forbidden.

So FIA didn't really change its mind. They just gave the green light for an idea, and when Lotus came up with the finished product they noticed that it violates another rule. In other words, the concept in itself is fine, if you could come up with a way to implement it without violating the other rule.


Beyond that, it doesn't seem like Ferrari complained about it, as they were developing something similar themselves, as did Mercedes, McLaren did the complaining.

Cujorulesdtown9 01-23-2012 08:26 AM

Much like with the CBJ, for Lotus, "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst" this season. Can only hope Raikkonen comes in and dominates.

Hopefully Red Bull gets a bunch of defective tyres this season or something, Im tired of seeing Sebastien Vettel.

And how Bruno Senna gets a seat with ANYONE for any reason besides his last name, is beyond me. And yet Petrov, someone who can drive, sits out.

Pajicz 01-23-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cujorulesdtown90 (Post 42957163)
And how Bruno Senna gets a seat with ANYONE for any reason besides his last name, is beyond me. And yet Petrov, someone who can drive, sits out.

I'm not really convinced on Petrov either, he hasn't really made any progress through his two seasons.

The Poacher 01-24-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cujorulesdtown90 (Post 42957163)
Much like with the CBJ, for Lotus, "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst" this season. Can only hope Raikkonen comes in and dominates.Hopefully Red Bull gets a bunch of defective tyres this season or something, Im tired of seeing Sebastien Vettel.

And how Bruno Senna gets a seat with ANYONE for any reason besides his last name, is beyond me. And yet Petrov, someone who can drive, sits out.

I think Raikkonen's a wild card this year. It'll take him a while to get back into form I would think. I don't see him making the podium much this year, especially early. It makes for a more interesting year though.

clefty 01-24-2012 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cujorulesdtown90 (Post 42957163)
And how Bruno Senna gets a seat with ANYONE for any reason besides his last name, is beyond me. And yet Petrov, someone who can drive, sits out.

Its nothing to do with his last name and everything to do with the sponsorship dollars that come with him.

Now, its the sponsorship dollars that have to do with his last name.

Williams need to do stuff like this to keep themselves on the grid. And they're not alone in that regard.

mightyquack 02-03-2012 05:01 AM

Some of the cars are ugly, ugly, ugly this year.

1999/2000 cars please!

ssault 02-03-2012 06:53 AM

http://ssault.com/ferrari.jpg

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :cry:

Finnpin 02-03-2012 09:47 AM

Wow, that's brutal :laugh:

Finnpin 02-03-2012 10:03 AM

http://i.imgur.com/CA6WB.jpg

Apaharn 02-03-2012 12:52 PM

Looks like Karthikeyan is back for another year at HRT.

What is the over/under that he is replaced sometime through the season? If not him, then who will be the first?

raikk 02-03-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnpin (Post 43517977)

Kimi Raikkonen ftw!

The new Ferrari is hideous, it's curious that Force India took a similar concept with the nose..

KevFist 02-03-2012 06:35 PM

that new Ferrari looks like it was designed by Lego

Zorf 02-03-2012 06:55 PM

The new Force India has that step design on the nose as well. What's the deal with that? The only explanation I have found is that teams are now allowed to do that with a change in the regulations, but no explanation to what the change actually is.

And yeah, those cars are fugly. New McLaren doesn't have the step...wonder how long it will be until it does.

Force India isn't as ugly as the Ferrari, but it looks odd.

http://www.racedepartment.com/2012/02/4285/vjm05_01/

ssault 02-03-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorf (Post 43541617)
The new Force India has that step design on the nose as well. What's the deal with that? The only explanation I have found is that teams are now allowed to do that with a change in the regulations, but no explanation to what the change actually is.

And yeah, those cars are fugly. New McLaren doesn't have the step...wonder how long it will be until it does.

Force India isn't as ugly as the Ferrari, but it looks odd.

http://www.racedepartment.com/2012/02/4285/vjm05_01/

The regulations were changed in the following way:

Quote:

So now the area ahead of the front bulkhead must be lower than 55cm. However the monocoque behind this area can remain as high as 62.5cm. Thus in order to strive to retain the aero gains teams will keep a high chassis and then have the nose cone flattened up against this 55cm maximum height. Thus we will see these platypus noses, wide and flat in order to keep the area beneath deformable structure clear for better airflow. The radiussed chassis sides are still allowed so we will also see this 7.5cm step merged into the humps a top of the chassis.
For the following reason:

Quote:

A safety issue around these higher noses is that they were becoming higher than the mandatory head protection around the cockpit, in some areas this is as low as 55cm. It was possible that a high nose tip could easily pass over this area and strike the driver.
Taken from Craig Scarborough's excellent F1 tech blog: http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2012/0...ns-and-trends/

KevFist 02-03-2012 10:00 PM

Thye biggest reason McLaren didn't follow suit is they typically run a lower ride height than the other makes

Finnpin 02-05-2012 10:53 AM

Lotus Renault GP 2012: well...at least it's prettier than Ferrari...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...45653318_n.jpg

Cujorulesdtown9 02-05-2012 11:20 PM

I think the lotus is awesome, maybe it's just because it's my team, haha.

SoupyFIN 02-06-2012 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pajicz (Post 42957323)
I'm not really convinced on Petrov either, he hasn't really made any progress through his two seasons.

Hey, Petrov atleast contributed in the form of awesome crashes. :laugh:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnpin (Post 43517977)

:laugh:

Shrimper 02-06-2012 07:45 AM

Some of the noses are really weird. Don't like them.

mightyquack 02-06-2012 12:30 PM

The nose looks ok on the Lotus car, but still ugly.

Finnpin 02-07-2012 11:27 AM

Still very hard to say the level of the teams but Kimi had the fastest lap in opening day of pre-season testing in Jerez :handclap:

Autosport story:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97392

And pics:
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/index.php/id/2709



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