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Mathradio 01-28-2012 06:15 PM

Erik Johnson to Philadelphia
 
Now, since the Flyers have a need on defense, what would the Flyers give up for EJ? JVR+?

Lonewolfe2015 01-28-2012 06:18 PM

The flyers wouldn't offer enough to make the Avs consider it.

We'd need JvR + Schenn + 1st for EJ + 2nd basically... it's roughly the same price we paid and he wouldn't go for less.

bbgarnett 01-28-2012 06:20 PM

maybe instead of Erik Johnson the Flyers could target Jan Hejda of the Avs as he wouldn't cost nearly as much.

Ivan13 01-28-2012 06:20 PM

EJ won't get traded.

The Mars Volchenkov 01-28-2012 06:21 PM

Johnson isn't going anywhere. Quincey would be available at the right cost, however.

Duchene2MacKinnon 01-28-2012 06:22 PM

Well, the avs also have a need on defense. EJ is playing like a number 1 defender, the avs cannot afford to trade and they have no reason too. Realistically, the Flyers can' offer anything to get EJ.

Big McLargehuge 01-28-2012 06:24 PM

He's entirely untouchable. The Avs just acquired him a year ago to be a franchise player, and he's playing like a legitimate first pairing defender this year.

Avs71 01-28-2012 06:24 PM

There is no point even talking about it. All that is going to come from this is a pissing match over which team has the better players.

Seeing as a he is the future of the Avs defense, was acquired less than a year ago, and the fact the Avs paid a steep price to get him, there isn't anything that can be worked out.

Rhaego 01-28-2012 06:28 PM

avs fans unite!!!!!

The Mars Volchenkov 01-28-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Big McLargehuge (Post 43231025)
He's entirely untouchable. The Avs just acquired him a year ago to be a franchise player, and he's playing like a legitimate first pairing defender this year.

He had a rough start to the year defensively (his +/- has taken a beating due to ENG's), but since coming back from injury in early December he's been great.

Carlzner 01-28-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mars Volchenkov (Post 43230841)
Johnson isn't going anywhere. Quincey would be available at the right cost, however.


JVR + SCHENN + 1st!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mac Man 01-28-2012 06:34 PM

Start with Sean Couturier and start adding peices after that...oh and don't forget the 1st, we could use one of those as well...

bleedblue1223 01-28-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mars Volchenkov (Post 43231285)
He had a rough start to the year defensively (his +/- has taken a beating due to ENG's), but since coming back from injury in early December he's been great.

His hitting numbers have been way up in December and January, is he finally starting to hit and be a physical force?

Mac Man 01-28-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rockies94 (Post 43231273)
avs fans unite!!!!!

lmfao...

Kschey 01-28-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bleedblue1223 (Post 43231755)
His hitting numbers have been way up in December and January, is he finally starting to hit and be a physical force?

Last game he's had like 2 or 3 highlight hits.
So yeah, he's starting to use more of his body right now.

I really like his development. His +/- looks bad but everyone who's watched him more often than 2,3 times will notice that he's absolutely playing like a #1 D.
Not always for sure but he's starting to get it done.

I'd need one heck of an overpayment coming from the other team to trade EJ.

Seto 01-28-2012 06:38 PM

Colorado needs wingers. Philadelphia has Jagr. Colorado gets Jagr. We all win.

bleedblue1223 01-28-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kschey (Post 43231901)
Last game he's had like 2 or 3 highlight hits.
So yeah, he's starting to use more of his body right now.

I really like his development. His +/- looks bad but everyone who's watched him more often than 2,3 times will notice that he's absolutely playing like a #1 D.
Not always for sure but he's starting to get it done.

I'd need one heck of an overpayment coming from the other team to trade EJ.

That's nice to hear, good for him.

shadow1 01-28-2012 06:39 PM

He's one of those players for the Avalanche that they won't really move, regardless of what happens in the second half.

Especially when he's finally looking like he could be something great, as opposed to before when he was just a big guy who had a good game every once in a while.

A defenseman would have to be coming back, that's for sure. Only Jan Hejda and Ryan O'Byrne are signed past this season for the Avalanche.

JVR, Matt Carle, Brayden Schenn/Sean Couturier. A boatload, but it would take overpayment for the Avalanche to consider moving him.

Avs44 01-28-2012 07:22 PM

He's staying in Denver. Not going anywhere.

Benighted 01-28-2012 07:28 PM

Really no point for avs to move him. Other than pmd they have nothing to replace ej. Furthermore, his value has probably only decreased if anything since he left so they probably won't get as good of a return as stl got. Management will stick by their decision as they should.

Flyerfan47 01-28-2012 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolfe2015 (Post 43230673)
The flyers wouldn't offer enough to make the Avs consider it.

We'd need JvR + Schenn + 1st for EJ + 2nd basically... it's roughly the same price we paid and he wouldn't go for less.

Thats just plain stupid. The players the Av's traded for him weren't in JVR's league let alone JVR, Schenn plus a 1st. I'd laugh you right off of the phone

Benighted 01-28-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyerfan47 (Post 43236047)
Thats just plain stupid. The players the Av's traded for him weren't in JVR's league let alone JVR, Schenn plus a 1st. I'd laugh you right off of the phone

I agree. I don't think you would get schenn +1st let alone jvr. Schenn is arguably the top prospect in the world.

Dolph Ziggler 01-28-2012 07:44 PM

Avs would be crazy to trade EJ. They didn't trade for him just to flip him again a year later.

chewey 01-28-2012 07:45 PM

You misspelled Quincey. And yes JVR would do nicely. :D

Benighted 01-28-2012 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Falco Lombardi (Post 43236317)
Avs would be crazy to trade EJ. They didn't trade for him just to flip him again a year later.

I guess we can just stop all of the stewart threads then too haha


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