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Leafs Forever 01-30-2012 09:21 AM

ATD 2012 Lineup Advice Thread
 
This went well last year, so I figure it's time to start it up again. Combinations haven't emerged yet, but advice for what kind of players are best to complete a line or pairing should be coming up now.

So, post any questions/advice/analysis you have on building lineups here.

vecens24 01-30-2012 10:40 AM

Yeah I guess we've hit that point where this will be useful as combinations start to emerge. I had almost forgotten we did this last year haha.

Leafs Forever 01-30-2012 03:58 PM

Out of curiousity, would people be willing to give private advice? (Advice on whether or not to select a player who has yet to be picked in fitting with a team build).

TheDevilMadeMe 01-30-2012 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Leafs Forever (Post 43302797)
Out of curiousity, would people be willing to give private advice? (Advice on whether or not to select a player who has yet to be picked in fitting with a team build).

I think it's fine if the person asking for advice is the one who brings up the player's name and then wants advice on that player. But I really don't like the idea of GMs (or outsiders) volunteering names to other GMs - seems like a shady run-around the "no naming undrafteds rule."

Leafs Forever 01-30-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDevilMadeMe (Post 43302965)
I think it's fine if the person asking for advice is the one who brings up the player's name and then wants advice on that player. But I really don't like the idea of GMs (or outsiders) volunteering names to other GMs - seems like a shady run-around the "no naming undrafteds rule."

Agreed.

And I suppose I'm willing to offer the service of the former.

Modo 01-30-2012 05:11 PM

Should I put Firsov and Bure on separate lines, or do you think there would be workable chemistry there?

Two speedy Russians, one (Bure) with little defensive awareness to speak of. I would imagine Firsov is somewhat better in that respect, but I'll happily defer to someone more in the know.

I think Trottier would be able to work with either one, to be honest.

Nalyd Psycho 01-30-2012 05:13 PM

It is my opinion that in the ATD, Bure works best carrying a second line. (Unless you really carefully build a Bure line.) He wouldn't get the most out of Trottier and if Trottier and Firsov are clicking, you wouldn't get the most out of Bure.

DoMakc 01-30-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Modo (Post 43305461)
Should I put Firsov and Bure on separate lines, or do you think there would be workable chemistry there?

Two speedy Russians, one (Bure) with little defensive awareness to speak of. I would imagine Firsov is somewhat better in that respect, but I'll happily defer to someone more in the know.

I think Trottier would be able to work with either one, to be honest.

I wouldn't put Trottier with Bure, because you can't play Trottier against top lines anymore. I think Firsov would be better without Bure too. Build a strong second line around Bure with players who fit with him.

TheDevilMadeMe 01-30-2012 05:18 PM

Random question - How often was Selanne used on the point of the power play?

I know recently he has been quite the dominant power play player on his off wing (the left side) up front.

hawkman 01-31-2012 01:09 PM

In Rounds 5-7 if you were drafting your defensive defenseman and goalie, and also drafting a fourth forward, what order would you draft them in and why?

TheDevilMadeMe 01-31-2012 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by God Made Me (Post 43334289)
In Rounds 5-7 if you were drafting your defensive defenseman and goalie, and also drafting a fourth forward, what order would you draft them in and why?

Delends in which position had the best value

hawkman 01-31-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDevilMadeMe (Post 43334363)
Depends in which position had the best value

Thanks. That's what I thought, but I thought you might say something else.

BenchBrawl 01-31-2012 01:22 PM

and also what holes you have as far as ''intangibles'' , like if you really need a scorer and there's only two ver ygood left , or a powerforward , or a pukcmoving defenseman etc...

hawkman 01-31-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BenchBrawl (Post 43334807)
and also what holes you have as far as ''intangibles'' , like if you really need a scorer and there's only two very good left , or a power forward , or a puck moving defenseman etc...

Thanks.

Leafs Forever 01-31-2012 04:22 PM

What kind of guy should I look for to partner with Bourque? Do I worry about speed and/or physicality?

Dreakmur 01-31-2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Leafs Forever (Post 43342367)
What kind of guy should I look for to partner with Bourque? Do I worry about speed and/or physicality?

I'd pair him with a physical stay at homer. Let Bourque run wild on offense.

tony d 01-31-2012 07:32 PM

Was wondering what type of defenseman do I pair with Tremblay? From what I read on him Tremblay was a good 2 way defenseman. So do I pair him with a defensive guy or an offensive guy?

hungryhungryhippy 01-31-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tony d (Post 43356671)
Was wondering what type of defenseman do I pair with Tremblay? From what I read on him Tremblay was a good 2 way defenseman. So do I pair him with a defensive guy or an offensive guy?

You should pair him with someone who is strong in the corners and can clear the crease, as he's not very physical.

TheDevilMadeMe 01-31-2012 11:03 PM

Tremblay needs to be paired with a physical stay at home guy

BillyShoe1721 01-31-2012 11:30 PM

What would people think of splitting up Moore and Howe? Put Moore on my 2nd line, and Howe on the first. Salming and Goodfellow are anchoring my first and second pairings. I've got 4 picks from 170 to 195ish and I'll probably pick 3 forwards and a defenseman.

Best LW available-Playmaking center-Howe
Moore-best center/RW available-_____

Salming-BDA
Goodfellow-_____

Nalyd Psycho 01-31-2012 11:39 PM

Depends on how good a player you can get...

TheDevilMadeMe 02-01-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyShoe1721 (Post 43384021)
What would people think of splitting up Moore and Howe? Put Moore on my 2nd line, and Howe on the first. Salming and Goodfellow are anchoring my first and second pairings. I've got 4 picks from 170 to 195ish and I'll probably pick 3 forwards and a defenseman.

Best LW available-Playmaking center-Howe
Moore-best center/RW available-_____

Salming-BDA
Goodfellow-_____

Like Nalyd said, it depends on who you can get. I'd also add that it depends on what you think their chemistry will be with Howe and Moore.

overpass 02-01-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyShoe1721 (Post 43384021)
What would people think of splitting up Moore and Howe? Put Moore on my 2nd line, and Howe on the first. Salming and Goodfellow are anchoring my first and second pairings. I've got 4 picks from 170 to 195ish and I'll probably pick 3 forwards and a defenseman.

Best LW available-Playmaking center-Howe
Moore-best center/RW available-_____

Salming-BDA
Goodfellow-_____

Howe and Moore are kind of duplicate skillsets. They can score, pass, they're tough, and they can win the puck.

You could play them together for sure but splitting them up might give you more flexibility in filling out your top two lines.

You probably want a goal scoring centre for Moore to get the most out of his playmaking and corner work.

Dreakmur 02-01-2012 05:46 PM

Are people satisfied with how a top pairing of Nicklas Lidstrom and Larry Murphy can handle power forwards by their domination of the Legion of Doom?

My division is kind of stacked with power forwards :help:

Modo 02-01-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreakmur (Post 43417435)
Are people satisfied with how a top pairing of Nicklas Lidstrom and Larry Murphy can handle power forwards by their domination of the Legion of Doom?

My division is kind of stacked with power forwards :help:

Funny you should mention that, I talked myself out of selecting Murphy one round ago, thinking I could use more firepower up front (Bure). Now I added one of the original PF's in Broadbent to finish off my first line......here's hoping he gives Murphy all he can handle. :p:


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