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Hawaiinleaf 02-12-2012 08:38 AM

Zenon Konopka has same # fights as entire Leaf team
 
Not that fighting matters, just an interesting fact

Brawl in Marlies game last night Frattin and Aulie with big wins and Frattin scoring again

Perhaps time has come

The Brewmeister 02-12-2012 08:40 AM

Konopka is also an idiot...... and useless.

He wanted to fight Phaneuf because Phaneuf put a clean shot on Da Costa and knocked him out.


Next......

Hawaiinleaf 02-12-2012 08:41 AM

The point is the Leaf team used to be a lot more physical and now 1 player on our rival Ottawa has more fights than our entire team

Dont want him just a point

MrLegend28* 02-12-2012 08:45 AM

Zenon Konopka could be replaced with a sponge and be just as effective.

Leafski 02-12-2012 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrLegend28 (Post 44006847)
Zenon Konopka could be replaced with a sponge and be just as effective.

Woah there, don't diss Lord Zenon, he might order the mothership to abduct or zap you.

The Brewmeister 02-12-2012 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawaiinleaf (Post 44006801)
The point is the Leaf team used to be a lot more physical and now 1 player on our rival Ottawa has more fights than our entire team

Dont want him just a point

Who cares? Ryan Hollweg fought. Zenon Konopka fought. They're useless and fighting doesnt make your team tough or physical.

Invalid argument.

number72 02-12-2012 09:13 AM

Leafs want a player more like clowe. he also takes a lot of dumb penalties and given the leafs PK I'm not sure that is smart.

Hawaiinleaf 02-12-2012 09:19 AM

Matt Martin.....100%

Mansfield 02-12-2012 09:33 AM

That's all very nice, but he's also a pretty useless player.

Dayjobdave 02-12-2012 09:36 AM

This would be a better thread if it were "We need to bring Jay Rosehill out of the pressbox,"

Because Rosehill is a better player and better fighter than Konopka, and he's not cracking our lineup.

The team has not been playing scared, so they don't need him in the lineup. That could be somewhat re-considered after the last couple of games.

Hawaiinleaf 02-12-2012 09:37 AM

he leads nhl in hits is 22 6'3' 220 and is praised on Islanders board for his winning of board battles for puck and he has 13 pts and plays 13 minutes a game

Yeah useless....no he is the type pf player we need on bottom 6

Gatorade* 02-12-2012 09:41 AM

Brandon Prust prob has more as well.

Pi 02-12-2012 09:43 AM

We don't lose games because we don't fight. We lose games because of scoring problems, defense problems, goaltending problems or all three combined like last night's game.

Hawaiinleaf 02-12-2012 09:45 AM

We wont win without players who can hit and play with grit not goons...

Board battles and protecting front of the net...we do not do this at all and this is why we get hemmed in our own end...team speed is of no help here..

mooseOAK* 02-12-2012 10:33 AM

I've only ever seen Konopka wrestle, does he fight also?

The Brewmeister 02-12-2012 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawaiinleaf (Post 44007915)
We wont win without players who can hit and play with grit not goons...

Board battles and protecting front of the net...we do not do this at all and this is why we get hemmed in our own end...team speed is of no help here..

The point is he is a liability. He's not needed on the bottom six. Brown does a better job, and if we needed a Konopka, we'd bring up Orr.

Hawaiinleaf 02-12-2012 10:51 AM

i dont want Zenon......i think we need Matt Martin

Stephen 02-12-2012 10:59 AM

The Leafs were flat out not good enough last night, it's weird that team toughness gets singled out by Hawaii as why we lose.

rstml 02-12-2012 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Brewmeister (Post 44009729)
The point is he is a liability. He's not needed on the bottom six. Brown does a better job, and if we needed a Konopka, we'd bring up Orr.

He's actually a pretty good faceoff man

4evaBlue 02-12-2012 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooseOAK (Post 44009145)
I've only ever seen Konopka wrestle, does he fight also?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WCMgBaGez7...ggingmatch.jpg

Duffman955 02-12-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayjobdave (Post 44007737)
This would be a better thread if it were "We need to bring Jay Rosehill out of the pressbox,"

Because Rosehill is a better player and better fighter than Konopka, and he's not cracking our lineup.

The team has not been playing scared, so they don't need him in the lineup. That could be somewhat re-considered after the last couple of games.

Take that back.

The team plays softer than a peewee team. They are scared out of their mind. Kessel, grabovski, kulemin, and all of our skilled players are scared to get into serious battles because they have no one to back them up.

If PK Subban roughed up Sundin like he did to kessel, he would have gotten his skull caved in by Belak, Domi and Tucker. But when it happened to kessel, everyone just watched. This team is a disgrace, especially for Burke.

Hawaiinleaf 02-12-2012 12:26 PM

Stephen thinks we need Wellwood back to add team speed and a new goalie...

masyo88* 02-12-2012 01:23 PM

Konopka is a plug who holds on to dear life for half has fights and is ok at faceoffs other then that hes just a stiff. But I do agree with you that we need some team toughness BADLY in the lineup. We missed out on signing Rupp and Prust in recent years. Hopefully this offseason we sign Parros or someone like that. I don't get the posters who are so against having a tough team. Its a physical game ladies you need some toughness and a few guys on your team that can scrap if you dont like it **** and watch curling.

Hawaiinleaf 02-12-2012 01:41 PM

Masyo88 i completely agree 100%

This site is full of people like Mooseoak an inappropriate name for the poster who feels we should have zero grit at all and should base team on speed..

Joey24 02-12-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawaiinleaf (Post 44017483)
Masyo88 i completely agree 100%

This site is full of people like Mooseoak an inappropriate name for the poster who feels we should have zero grit at all and should base team on speed..

I think team speed over the top 2-3 lines is good, can't say our 4th line is not gritty, Armstrong, Steckel, Brown are more then gritty enough. I would love to have a fighter on our team who could play the game but unfortunately most of the elite guys are useless in every other aspect of the game. Unless you want to bring in a middle weight or two.


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