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LandofLincoln 02-15-2012 08:34 PM

shaking up the Capitals and Blackhawks
 
To Washington: Patrick Kane, Michael Frolik, R. Emery, 2012 1st round pick

To Chicago: Nicklas Bäckström, Dennis Wideman, Tomas Vokoun

Alexander Semin not really that interesting but if you wanted to throw him in the deal he probably is worth Bickell or Kruger perhaps even both. maybe? Who ever gets Semin loses him to free agency.

LickTheEnvelope 02-15-2012 08:35 PM

Uhhh last I checked the Capitals needed another center, not to trade their best one away...

Carlzner 02-15-2012 08:38 PM

Caps get fleeced.

LandofLincoln 02-15-2012 08:46 PM

Does Patrick Kane suck?

I mean Backstrom isn't Crosby his defense needs work.

What else would you need?

LandofLincoln 02-15-2012 08:50 PM

not that this would happen but it might be interesting....

To Washington:
Toews, Frolik, 2012 2nd rounder & Emery

To Chicago:
Backstrom, Wideman, Semin & Vokoun

crazyforhockey 02-15-2012 08:51 PM

was gives up the three best players

backstrom > kane

wideman> frolic

vokon > emery


and all by a large margin

octopi 02-15-2012 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LickTheEnvelope (Post 44217531)
Uhhh last I checked the Capitals needed another center, not to trade their best one away...

Yeah, Backstrom stays.

If Chicago needs a winger then maybe they can deal.

jameswrjobe53 02-15-2012 08:54 PM

Backstrom is NOT available.:)

Drake1588 02-15-2012 08:54 PM

Backstrom? No.

LandofLincoln 02-15-2012 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyforhockey (Post 44219343)
was gives up the three best players

backstrom > kane

wideman> frolic

vokon > emery


and all by a large margin

No doubt!!!! Wideman & Vokoun what are you going to get for them... sign them if they have value... they are on the last year of their deals... So lets not act like FA are guys under contract.

My Backstrom Hurts 02-15-2012 08:56 PM

GMGM laughs and hangs up before Bowman can finish saying Backstrom.

And not only is he not available, the value is unbelievably slanted towards Chicago in this proposal.

LandofLincoln 02-15-2012 08:57 PM

Ok Backstom stays I got it....

We are trade partners though...maybe?

Vokoun what do you want for him?

AmericanRocket91 02-15-2012 08:58 PM

Toews is completely untouchable.

brs03 02-15-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LandofLincoln (Post 44219905)
Ok Backstom stays I got it....

We are trade partners though...maybe?

Vokoun what do you want for him?

I imagine they'd want a 1st for Vokoun. Don't know what the goaltending market is like for CHI's alternatives (Nabokov?) but to me they scream motivated buyer and GMGM is good at getting value.

That's assuming they have any desire at all to trade Vokoun, which they probably don't. Yet, at least.

Drake1588 02-15-2012 09:00 PM

A proposal with Vokoun isn't a shakeup trade. It's a buyer/seller trade. The Caps aren't sure whether they're a buyer or seller yet. They go o'fer the weekend in Florida and they'll be that much closer to being a seller, and Vokoun could hit the trade market. They come out with 3/4 points, and they may be buyers. Toss up. I'm still unsure as to whether the Caps want to re-sign him, for that matter. They certainly have seen nothing from Neuvirth or Holtby this year to suggest Vokoun isn't needed.

Realm 02-15-2012 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyforhockey (Post 44219343)
was gives up the three best players

backstrom > kane

wideman> frolic

vokon > emery


and all by a large margin

Neither team does this, isnt Vokoun and Wideman UFA's? Backstrom might be out for the year.

MastuhNinks 02-15-2012 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LandofLincoln (Post 44218771)
Does Patrick Kane suck?

I mean Backstrom isn't Crosby his defense needs work.

What else would you need?

But Backstrom is excellent defensively, definitely better than Kane.
I don't think this trade works for either team though.

txpd 02-15-2012 09:42 PM

backstrom's defense needs work? this is a 4 on 3 penalty kill. if backstrom's defense needs work he would not be on the ice.



here backstrom turns over the puck. he makes a defensive takeaway to get it back. then he skates the puck
down, takes a huge hit and scores the winner. btw...thats seabrooke and keith that be burns for the win and thats
buff that hits him.


NeilYoung 02-15-2012 09:43 PM

I wouldn't trade Backstrom alone for all that

MiSe 02-15-2012 09:46 PM

Semin and Vokoun for Hossa :sarcasm:

Red Dread 02-15-2012 10:38 PM

I'd do something involving Sharp. Not involving Backstrom of course.

Red Dread 02-15-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmericanRocket91 (Post 44220063)
Toews is completely untouchable.

Washington understands his untouchable status and that he's better than Backstrom. I don't believe anyone asked for Toews. We know we couldn't acquire him.

Now Sharp...

Sevanston 02-15-2012 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capsfan12837 (Post 44230501)
Washington understands his untouchable status and that he's better than Backstrom. I don't believe anyone asked for Toews. We know we couldn't acquire him.

Now Sharp...

I love Sharpie, and never want to see him traded (also, I highly doubt he ever will be traded)

But if you're saying we can do something with Sharp and Backstrom as the biggest pieces...

I'd take that deal, marry it in Vegas, and have little Stanley Cup babies with it.

Drake1588 02-15-2012 10:52 PM

There is no Backstrom deal at all, and anyone suggesting the possibility is just wasting people's time. I frankly think it's more likely the Caps trade Ovechkin, and that's awfully remote in its own right.

Zoidberg Jesus 02-15-2012 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LandofLincoln (Post 44218771)
Does Patrick Kane suck?

I mean Backstrom isn't Crosby his defense needs work.

What else would you need?

Backstrom is one of the best two way centers in the game. I thought this was common knowledge. He's pretty much a lock to win a Selke at some point in his career, and I wouldn't trade him straight up for any player on the Hawks. That includes Toews.


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