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Vikke 02-16-2012 04:48 PM

TRADE: Defenseman Nicklas Grossman from Dallas for LA's 2012 2nd and MIN's 2013 3rd
 
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TRADE: #Flyers have acquired (D) Nicklas Grossman from Dallas in exchange for a 2012 2nd rd pick(from LA) & 2013 3rd rd pick(from MIN).

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http://starsblog.dallasnews.com/arch...-grossman.html

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DALLAS STARS TRADE NICKLAS GROSSMAN TO PHILADELPHIA;

RECEIVE SECOND-ROUND SELECTION IN 2012 AND THIRD-ROUND PICK IN 2013

Frisco, TX. - Dallas Stars General Manager Joe Nieuwendyk announced today that the club has traded defenseman Nicklas Grossman to the Philadelphia Flyers in exchange for a second-round selection in the 2012 NHL Entry Draft (originally Los Angeles' pick) and a third-round selection in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft (originally Minnesota's pick).

Grossman, 27, has skated in 52 games for the Stars this season, earning five assists and 26 penalty minutes. The 6-4, 230-pound defenseman has played in 333 NHL games scoring three goals and 38 assists for 41 points.

The Dallas Stars play the Calgary Flames tonight at American Airlines Center at 7:30 p.m. CT (TV: FOX Sports Southwest, Radio: 1310 The Ticket).
Description from Dave Brown, the Flyers' Director of Player Personnel:
  • Big guy
  • Solid stay-at-home defenseman
  • Gritty
  • Makes a good first pass
  • Not an offensive player or a powerplay man.
  • Doesn't skate like Coburn but more of a physical body

The Hockey News' assets and flaws:

http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/...layer.cgi?4604

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ASSETS: Has a great combination of size and poise from the back end. Owns the ability to log important minutes and excel on the penalty kill.

FLAWS: Lacks the skill level to put up good point totals at the highest level. Is somewhat inconsistent in terms of his physical presence on the ice.
http://3.cdn.nhle.com/stars/v2/photos/mugs/8471269.jpg
  • He will wear number 8.
  • Height: 6' 4"
  • Weight: 230
  • Shoots: Left
  • Born: Jan 22, 1985 (Age 27)
  • Birthplace: Stockholm, Sweden

2011-12 game log: http://stars.nhl.com/club/player.htm...2&view=gamelog

http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/flyers...522&feedID=695

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“He’s a good, solid defensive-defenseman who can help kill penalties,” said general manager Paul Holmgren. “He’s a guy who can chew up minutes.”

And guard his net.

Grossman is not a scorer – just five assists in 52 games – but he’s already established a career-high this season with 100 blocked shots.

In Dallas, he averaged the third-highest special teams minutes – 2:12 on the penalty kill and 2:13 on the power play. The Flyers need help right now on their PK units, which went into Thursday’s game against Buffalo having yielded nine goals in six games.

“We’ve struggled in a lot of areas lately,” Holmgren said. “That’s certainly –penalty kill – is one of them. Nick has developed over time in Dallas. He’s still a good, young player.

“I think he’s going to give us a boost in our own zone. He makes a good first pass. He’s not a guy who is going to put up a lot of points.”

Gardiner Express 02-16-2012 04:49 PM

good deal

Prongo 02-16-2012 04:49 PM

****ing right boyz!! I have been saying him for awhile now. I bet we try to resign him before he leaves via UFA!

Krishna 02-16-2012 04:50 PM

Solid deal
Guess he can't play tonight? Lol

DumpyD 02-16-2012 04:51 PM

I had a feeling SOMETHING would happen today. Don't think a 5-6 guy is worth a 2nd and a 3rd, but hey we need someone back there.

Philadelphia Ducks 02-16-2012 04:53 PM

Love it.

StrongIslanders90 02-16-2012 04:54 PM

Hes a UFA??? wow Philly really tryna make a run...I like Grossman

sa cyred 02-16-2012 04:54 PM

Supposidly he has had a pretty bad year so far. In the past he has shown to be a solid player though so hoping he goes back to that form.

Jack de la Hoya 02-16-2012 04:55 PM

Hmm. a 2nd and a 3rd for a 3rd-pairing UFA?

Seems a little steep, but it isn't like that 2nd would have made a difference on this team for years anyway.

For those wondering: 27 years old, 1.625 cap hit, UFA after this year.

Stats since becoming NHL regular:

___________________________G A P PIM
2008-2009 Dallas Stars NHL 81 2 10 12 51 |
2009-2010 Dallas Stars NHL 71 0 7 7 32 |
2010-2011 Dallas Stars NHL 59 1 9 10 35 |
2011-2012 Dallas Stars NHL 52 0 5 5 26 |

SeanL44 02-16-2012 04:56 PM

Hell yes, was asking for this a couple months ago when discussing defenseman with my friend. Then I posted a "value" thread in the trade rumor forums a couple weeks ago. So glad this has happened, I think hes going to be an awesome fit for us. If he ends up playing with Carle this could turn into a 2nd / 3rd pairing

flyguys7475 02-16-2012 04:57 PM

A bruiser!!! I like it

SgtJoseph 02-16-2012 04:57 PM

I have no problem with this deal at all.....So far its painless.I guess the big question is the obvious one.....Is Homer done ? or is this just the first salvo to soften up the beaches for the the big move ?

bryzgalovsky* 02-16-2012 04:57 PM

so is that it then?

that all we're getting?

DumpyD 02-16-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jeh82 (Post 44271475)
Hmm. a 2nd and a 3rd for a 3rd-pairing UFA?

Yeah... Lotta Stars fans surprised they got a second for him. I rather woulda just sent them Wellwood and a fourth.

sa cyred 02-16-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bryzgalovsky (Post 44271645)
so is that it then?

that all we're getting?

Solid guy to put with Carle.

Timonen-Coburn
Carle-Grossman
Meszaros-Gustafsson/Bourdon

Just hoping he can get back into form. Seemed to be pretty bad this season. His corsi was worse on his team.

Jack de la Hoya 02-16-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtJoseph (Post 44271631)
I have no problem with this deal at all.....So far its painless.I guess the big question is the obvious one.....Is Homer done ? or is this just the first salvo to soften up the beaches for the the big move ?

While I wouldn't say "done," I do think this lessens the chance that the L. Schenn for JVR talks get resurrected this season.

canuck4life16 02-16-2012 04:59 PM

good job for the flyers

bennysflyers16 02-16-2012 04:59 PM

I like it, and he is young enough if he works out, could resign him. Replace Carles Off game with a real Def defensemen .

flyersguy33* 02-16-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bryzgalovsky (Post 44271645)
so is that it then?

that all we're getting?

relax, there's still like 2 weeks left

Prongo 02-16-2012 04:59 PM

When do third pairing D-men play almost 20 mins a night?

This is a good trade for us, HF always over values draft picks anyway. They weren't even ours to begin with. I really like this trade.

Philadelphia Ducks 02-16-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bryzgalovsky (Post 44271645)
so is that it then?

that all we're getting?

Hope not, going to take a lot more than Grossman to fix this defense. It's a nice start though.

BobbyClarkeFan16 02-16-2012 04:59 PM

Well, there's the much needed defensive defenseman the club needs and is a crease clearer as well. Hmmm, does this mean this is Carle's new partner or does he play with Meszaros? Interesting, very interesting......

DumpyD 02-16-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtJoseph (Post 44271631)
I have no problem with this deal at all.....So far its painless.I guess the big question is the obvious one.....Is Homer done ? or is this just the first salvo to soften up the beaches for the the big move ?

Eh, they need more help than just a big 3rd pairing guy.

Wanderson 02-16-2012 05:00 PM

Good trade for both teams, I guess...

Philadelphia Ducks 02-16-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyClarkeFan16 (Post 44271803)
Well, there's the much needed defensive defenseman the club needs and is a crease clearer as well. Hmmm, does this mean this is Carle's new partner or does he play with Meszaros? Interesting, very interesting......

I'd hope he plays with stonehand's Carle.


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