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Pay Carl 02-21-2012 08:02 PM

Streit
 
What would it take to get him to the Bruins?

I know he just recently became captain, but he is kind of old on a team that is very young, and odds are by the time they are a legitimate playoff contending team he will be too old

So what do you think it would cost?

Strickland 02-21-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wKetch22 (Post 44599291)
What would it take to get him to the Bruins?

I know he just recently became captain, but he is kind of old on a team that is very young, and odds are by the time they are a legitimate playoff contending team he will be too old

So what do you think it would cost?

Streit and PAP for Hamilton and whatever we gotta do to even out the salaries.

CREW99AW 02-21-2012 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wKetch22 (Post 44599291)
What would it take to get him to the Bruins?

I know he just recently became captain, but he is kind of old on a team that is very young, and odds are by the time they are a legitimate playoff contending team he will be too old

So what do you think it would cost?

Isles have 25 yr old MacDonald,22 yr old Hamonic and Streit signed for next season.Oh,they also have 4 pmd at Bridgeport pushing for nhl jobs.

34 yr old Streit is the perferct age to mentor the incoming rookies.

Especially since the ufa market is so weak.If the B's,going for another cup and not having a young,nhl top pairing d-man to send to LI,want to overpay for Streit,then expect Snow to ask for Hamilton+1st.

CREW99AW 02-21-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Strickland (Post 44600761)
Streit and PAP for Hamilton and whatever we gotta do to even out the salaries.

Isles aren't PACKAGING Streit and Parenteau for Hamilton.:laugh:

If the B's want to overpay for Streit,let them:Streit fort Hamilton+1st.

Isles will deal Parenteau in a seperate deal.Hopefully for a vet like SJ's Murray.

B's are the ones going for the cup,anxious to get their roster set with only 5-6 days left.

Strickland 02-21-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CREW99AW (Post 44601861)
Isles aren't PACKAGING Streit and Parenteau for Hamilton.:laugh:

If the B's want to overpay for Streit,let them:Streit fort Hamilton+1st.

Isles will deal Parenteau in a seperate deal.Hopefully for a vet like SJ's Murray.

B's are the ones going for the cup,anxious to get their roster set with only 5-6 days left.

I don't care what I get back, I'm tired of Streit. Part of it is because the team can't hide him due to the rest of the defense being atrocious without Hamonic and part of it is because the guy you gave the "C" to and are paying over $4 million a year has to be hidden.

Riddick 02-21-2012 08:36 PM

i know it would never happen but i would LOVE hamilton.. then again with what players are getting this deadline it almost seems like it should be hamilton + 1st for streit haha

Noreaster96 02-21-2012 08:39 PM

I wouldnt mind trading him... hes got better value now than he probably would next season what with the extra year on his contract and not many teams selling... Price would be pretty dang high though... As to specifics I couldnt even begin to think what the Isles would want

Islander Prophet 02-21-2012 08:41 PM

I agree, I think the Bruins would have to deal Hamilton and their first...

The Isles can give back Streit and maybe a depth guy like Reasoner or Pandolfo

Bruwinz37 02-21-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CREW99AW (Post 44601861)
Isles aren't PACKAGING Streit and Parenteau for Hamilton.:laugh:

If the B's want to overpay for Streit,let them:Streit fort Hamilton+1st.

Isles will deal Parenteau in a seperate deal.Hopefully for a vet like SJ's Murray.

B's are the ones going for the cup,anxious to get their roster set with only 5-6 days left.

Be realistic...there is no one in your system that could make us part with Hamilton other than Tavares. Streit is 34, and while your point about being a mentor is valid, he will not be around to be part of the solution. Get what you can for him now when his value is still high.

Bruwinz37 02-21-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Streit Power (Post 44607465)
I agree, I think the Bruins would have to deal Hamilton and their first...

The Isles can give back Streit and maybe a depth guy like Reasoner or Pandolfo

Neither of the two forwards would represent an upgrade over anyone.

CREW99AW 02-21-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Strickland (Post 44606293)
Oh, ok. So I can't use an internet messageboard to complain? Got it. Thanks for the internet etiquette.

Meanwhile, that captain and top pairing defenseman is a -22. MINUS TWENTY TWO.

Oh captain, my captain.....just isn't very good.

Use the board for your complaints.

But let's not confuse what some fans want or demand, with what gm or owner are doing.

1.Isles with a glut of unproven,but promising prospects are in the 4th yr of Snow's rebuild.He would rather have quality vets on good contracts,then more picks/prospects at this point.

2.It's a weak ufa market and even in yrs where the market's been strong,the isles have not been able to lure quality ufas.

3.Snow's been unable to trade for a top 4,in a deal he thinks is reasonable.

4.Isles only have 3 d-men signed for next season.No one wants to see a rookie like Cal De Haan rushed into a top 4 role before he's ready.

Isles are not trading any of Streit,Hamonic or MacDonald unless some other team wildly overpays.
They will imo hope Streit rebounds and mentors their ahl youngsters like he did MacDonald and Hamonic.

Noreaster96 02-21-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruwinz37 (Post 44608271)
Be realistic...there is no one in your system that could make us part with Hamilton other than Tavares. Streit is 34, and while your point about being a mentor is valid, he will not be around to be part of the solution. Get what you can for him now when his value is still high.

What would you give up for him?

Wanderson 02-21-2012 08:53 PM

He would cost you atleast as much as Kaberle did.

Maybe Doug Hamilton + 2nd 2012?

CREW99AW 02-21-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruwinz37 (Post 44608271)
Be realistic...there is no one in your system that could make us part with Hamilton other than Tavares. Streit is 34, and while your point about being a mentor is valid, he will not be around to be part of the solution. Get what you can for him now when his value is still high.

Isles are in the 4th yr of a major youth movement.

34 yr old Streit mentored 25 yr old MacDonald and 22 yr old Hamonic.Over the past few seasons,we've had several of the young blueliners credit Streit with helping them learn at the nhl level.

Cal De Haan,Matt Donovan and Aaron Ness are all ahl rookies.They,along with Katic, will be competiing for a limited number of roster spots in next yr's traing camp.

Isles only have Streit,Hamonic and MacDonald signed for next season.Isles will be counting on Streit to mentor these young pmd.That's realistic.Saying 34 yr old Streit is too old or serves no purpose on the isles is plain silly.

Whether the B's would want to pay such a high price for Streit, is up to them.They are the ones going for the cup this season.

HooliganX2 02-21-2012 09:00 PM

Wow there is no way you get Hamilton for Streit. Better yet having the Bruins add a first. I guess Streit is not available at all.

CREW99AW 02-21-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HooliganX2 (Post 44610803)
Wow there is no way you get Hamilton for Streit. Better yet having the Bruins add a first. I guess Streit is not available at all.


I have not seen one article from a credible source,not even a tweet from a credible source,saying he was ,at anytime since the NYI signed him.

Snow's been kicking the tires,trying to land a quality,top 4 d-man since last June to help take some of the weight off Streit/Hamonic/MacDonald.

Islander Prophet 02-21-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CREW99AW (Post 44612943)
I have not seen one article from a credible source,not even a tweet from a credible source,saying he was ,at anytime since the NYI signed him.

Snow's been kicking the tires,trying to land a quality,top 4 d-man since last June to help take some of the weight off Streit/Hamonic/MacDonald.

This

27isles27 02-21-2012 10:15 PM

Combination of Hamilton, Caron and 1st rd pick for Streit

or

Hamilton, Caron and 1st rd pick for Streit and Parenteau

ichabod13 02-21-2012 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CREW99AW (Post 44601155)
then expect Snow to ask for Hamilton+1st.

then garth is the idiot that everyone says he is. there is no way in hell that streit is worth that much. i doubt streit could even fetch hamilton alone..........and you want the bruins first on top of it???????

ichabod13 02-21-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 27isles27 (Post 44619283)
Combination of Hamilton, Caron and 1st rd pick for Streit

or

Hamilton, Caron and 1st rd pick for Streit and Parenteau

if the first deal isnt good enough, youll just throw in parenteau?
streit AND parenteau wont get garth hamilton and a first.

CREW99AW 02-21-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 27isles27 (Post 44619283)
Combination of Hamilton, Caron and 1st rd pick for Streit

or

Hamilton, Caron and 1st rd pick for Streit and Parenteau

not a knock on Caron,but with Nino ,Strome,Ullstrom,Cizkas and Rhanskasi(sp). expected to compete for 3-4 nhl roster spots next season,do the nyi really need Caron in the mix?

kabanov will be headed to Bridgeport next season and could get a cupof coffee callup too.

CREW99AW 02-21-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ichabod13 (Post 44619923)
then garth is the idiot that everyone says he is. there is no way in hell that streit is worth that much. i doubt streit could even fetch hamilton alone..........and you want the bruins first on top of it???????

I'm sure somewhere,Snow's losing sleep over internet insults

Alberta_OReilly_Fan 02-21-2012 10:36 PM

some islander fans are whacko if they think boston would part with hamilton for streit... but are not whacko for wishing it

and if islander fans want to wish for a massive overpayment for streit then thats fine

and if islander management doesnt want to move streit for less then massive overpayment then thats fine

i think streit is a hell of an impressive player that has been on my wish list for a long time. if he is available then i hope boston makes a 'reasonable' offer for him

as for reasonable offer... i would say a first for starters, and a fairly good prospect {spooner/knight?} and something else if something else was coming back with strait.

like a second from us and a 5th from the islanders or something such as that...

if it cost more then that to get streit, then i cant really see the B's wanting to rip their team apart for what amounts to be a very good number 3 pp specialist on a quality playoff team.

streit can be impressive on very bad teams for short periods of time... but when on very bad teams for the longer haul, you do end up seeing holes in his game and you being to realize why he wouldnt be considered a high caliber 1 on any team with serious asperations for playoff success.

very very sweet weapon for a pp though and id love to grab him for my B's and id be willing to give up a first and a very high quality prospect for him. it likely would be the going rate most teams would be willing to give up

Alberta_OReilly_Fan 02-21-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CREW99AW (Post 44620443)
not a knock on Caron,but with Nino ,Strome,Ullstrom,Cizkas and Rhanskasi(sp). expected to compete for 3-4 nhl roster spots next season,do the nyi really need Caron in the mix?

kabanov will be headed to Bridgeport next season and could get a cupof coffee callup too.

youve been a strong islander supporter for years and years... i remember 8-9 years ago reading you support your team here with fire and passion.. claiming your gm will never made the dumb mistakes some posters here wondered they might...

i remember tons of comments about how one young prospect after another was untouchable and that the islanders would never deal them and how they were going to become the next great players in the nhl

and what i learned is you really really really want your team to succed... and you want your gm of your team to stop being an idiot and you wish you had the power to speak for your gm so they would stop being an idiot

but you arent right very often about whether or not your gms have a history for making trades that dont work out too good for the islanders. and a ton of guys you thought were not going to be dealt... got dealt... and a ton of guys thought had all the roster spots filled up, simply didnt pan out.

im a bruin fan... and i sure as hell didnt think boston would deal thornton for such meager returns... and i sure didnt think wed run adam oates out of town so shoddy... and i sure didnt think we'd let glen wesley leave over a contract squabble or run byron dafoe out the way we did... or phil kessel...

but it happened. my wishing otherwise didnt stop it.

i have no insider info that strait will or will not be dealt.. but you speak so authorative for your gm even after years and years and years of your gm letting you down. im not evern 1/10th as confident my gm will make a smart trade and he just won me a cup

i either admire your power of blind faith... or think maybe after all the evidence to the contrary, that maybe you might allow for a little bit of realism in some of your absolute declarations here

snow might ask for hamilton for streit... and he should... boston obviously would be moronic to agree to that and will offer something esle for streit. ultimately, the islanders might not give up streit {and maybe boston doesnt even want him} but if a real trade is every agreed to between boston and ny for streit... it wont involve streit being worth more then hamilton as far as boston is concerned.

just like bostong cant trade krecji for strome and the nyi first either. we could ask for it, but it wont happen

but krecji for steit might actually be a fair trade? maybe not right now, but perhaps next year if streit was willing to sign an extension?

ichabod13 02-21-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Alberta_OReilly_Fan (Post 44621321)
i would say a first for starters, and a fairly good prospect {spooner/knight?} and something else if something else was coming back with strait.

bostons first.
spooner AND knight

for

streit
parenteau and grabner


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